RE: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
Paul Osborne wrote: --- > I almost cried when I found out that apologists at BYU now > say the Nephites rode deer and not horses. Now we have wooden swords and > deer. Somehow that is not what I think Joseph Smith was seeing in the > Urim & Thummim. I'm sad. --- Paul, don't be sad about finding higher levels of enlightenment. We don't know what Joseph saw in the Urim and Thummim. Only a few descriptive narratives -- and the Book of Mormon. Some of our Arnold Frieburg created notions are deeply ingrained, but not necessarily true. Learning the truth is partly about finding where our ideas are wrong, and setting them aside. Not an easy task, to be sure. But necessary. Remember, faith is a knowledge of things we believe, which are true. We cannot exercise true faith in things that are false. --- Jim Cobabe // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
Paul Osborne wrote: What do you think JWR? Am I worse than you. Be honest! On average, you have rougher edges than I have. But my extremes are rougher than your extremes. Even now I can't believe I have said the things I've said about the Canadians and the British. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:07:41 -0700 Rick Mathis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 08:14 AM 8/11/2003 -0500, Paul wrote: > > >Anyway, I'm going to shut up now > >because I seem to get banned just about every where I go. > > Thank you very much, Paul. > > Rick Mathis You're welcome. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
Paul, you should know that the FAIR message boards are not the FAIR members, but rather visitors who post what they want. If that is the best you can do - accuse FAIR of being responsible for everything on the message boards then you need to correct yourself and tell it correctly. Now it you can give me a reference I will check it out, but I have no time to do your homework and cover your statements for you. George - Original Message - From: "Paul Osborne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon > > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:13:35 -0600 George Cobabe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Paul: You have such a tendency to throw things around. Could you > > provide a > > reference for anyone who believes about Deer and Wooden swords? > > Hopefully a > > url!!! > > Go to the FAIR message board. I can hardly believe what LDS apologists > are saying these days. If you can't find the threads, ask around. I'm > banned. > Here is an anti-Mormon (James White) URL that I hadn't deleted yet. > http://www.equip.org/free/DM755.htm > > Paul O > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 05:59:17 -0600 George Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For more on this issue you might want to check out fairlds.com. > This is a > group of LDS apologists that are tracking the issue. Yeah, and this lousy board just excommunicated me for making statements about physiological differences of African lips and that Jesus could not have been black because of the seed of Cain. This world is getting so PC, I can hardly stand to live in it anymore. Also, I find the LDS apologetics about wooden swords at Cumorah instead of steel ones to be the most asinine thing I have ever heard in my entire life of 41 years. I would to God the prophets would go into BYU and clean out the house and install men of faith. Anyway, I'm going to shut up now because I seem to get banned just about every where I go. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 07:22:05 -0600 George Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK, Paul I will forget it, especially if you will not just throw > irresponsible statements and claims about just any old way. > > George Oh come on George, you're just trying to get me started. I'm not that dumb. I've been around the block a few times. It won't work this time. I'm going to keep quiet this time and let you wonder about why it is FARMS apologists are now saying that the Nephites used wooden swords to counter the lack of physical evidence at the foot of the hill Cumorah and that FARMS has bowed to science who says there were no horses in America so they now say they rode deer and not horses as translated by Joseph, so, I'll be responsible and not just throw statements out on the Zion list to upset people like you; my mouth is sealed. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:34:15 -0600 George Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Once again Paul, you find it easy to throw out accusations but are > unable to > back your words up. I am not trying to get you going about > anything. The > discussion was in regard to FAIR and what they had to say. You have > been > unwilling to come up with anything to back up your statements. > > An apology or at least a retraction would be in order, but I do not > expect > that it will be forthcoming. > > George Spare me, please. Go do your research. I can talk off the cuff if I want. If you don't like it just press delete. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:13:35 -0600 George Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul: You have such a tendency to throw things around. Could you > provide a > reference for anyone who believes about Deer and Wooden swords? > Hopefully a > url!!! Go to the FAIR message board. I can hardly believe what LDS apologists are saying these days. If you can't find the threads, ask around. I'm banned. Here is an anti-Mormon (James White) URL that I hadn't deleted yet. http://www.equip.org/free/DM755.htm Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
OK, Paul I will forget it, especially if you will not just throw irresponsible statements and claims about just any old way. George - Original Message - From: "Paul Osborne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon > > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:13:22 -0600 George Cobabe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Paul, you should know that the FAIR message boards are not the FAIR > > members, > > but rather visitors who post what they want. If that is the best > > you can > > do - accuse FAIR of being responsible for everything on the message > > boards > > then you need to correct yourself and tell it correctly. > > > > Now it you can give me a reference I will check it out, but I have > > no time > > to do your homework and cover your statements for you. > > > > George > > > Ok, George, Just forget it then. > > Paul O > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
I do not believe that anyone on FAIR would make such a claim. Paul O. was not speaking of that group of people when he expressed his concern. I am sorry that you have found them lacking in so many areas, but I do not think any of them would claim to be entirely proficent in any area, let alone every area. Many of them have made good contributions that are at least worthy of consideration, if nothing more than as a bad example. George - Original Message - From: "Steven Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon > At 07:14 AM 8/11/2003, you wrote: > > >On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 05:59:17 -0600 George Cobabe > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For more on this issue you might want to check out fairlds.com. > > > This is a > > > group of LDS apologists that are tracking the issue. > > > > > >Yeah, and this lousy board just excommunicated me for making statements > >about physiological differences of African lips and that Jesus could not > >have been black because of the seed of Cain. This world is getting so PC, > >I can hardly stand to live in it anymore. > > Who is claiming that Jesus was black? Ideas like this is why I tend to > steer away from FAIR--in my experience I've found them to be a bunch of > wannabe scholars but lacking in far too many areas. > > > -- > Steven Montgomery > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Explore Freedom: http://www.geocities.com/graymada > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > > > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
Paul Osborne wrote: I'm brutally honest just like JR is but with less tact. Grampa Bill asks: Less tact than JR? Hard to believe! :-) Love y'all, Grampa Bill in Savannah // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:39:36 -0800 "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I doubt if you will get banned on this list, Paul. We are not PC. > Of > course, if you really tried --JWR Thanks JR, as I do try to be extra good around here. I do have to say though that I almost cried when I found out that apologists at BYU now say the Nephites rode deer and not horses. Now we have wooden swords and deer. Somehow that is not what I think Joseph Smith was seeing in the Urim & Thummim. I'm sad. :-( Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
Paul Osborne wrote: Yeah, and this lousy board just excommunicated me for making statements about physiological differences of African lips and that Jesus could not have been black because of the seed of Cain. This world is getting so PC, I can hardly stand to live in it anymore. Also, I find the LDS apologetics about wooden swords at Cumorah instead of steel ones to be the most asinine thing I have ever heard in my entire life of 41 years. I would to God the prophets would go into BYU and clean out the house and install men of faith. Anyway, I'm going to shut up now because I seem to get banned just about every where I go. I doubt if you will get banned on this list, Paul. We are not PC. Of course, if you really tried --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:58:46 -0600 Steven Montgomery > Who is claiming that Jesus was black? Ideas like this is why I tend > to > steer away from FAIR--in my experience I've found them to be a bunch > of > wannabe scholars but lacking in far too many areas. It was an anti who posted the link just to be cute. I made some simple observations and got banned. But, I will say that I was pretty rough on the board previous to that and stirred up trouble and you know I say exactly what's on my mind. Lots of people don't like that because it's offensive but I'm brutally honest just like JR is but with less tact. The FAIR guys think they know it all. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
No, I do not. The idea that the DNA from a small group of about 20-30 people in the Lehi party would have a significant impact on the populations already in the Americas is hard to accept and understand. If you can somehow show what kind of DNA you are looking for you will already be way ahead of those who are claiming they cannot find it. What does the DNA of Lehi look like Furthermmore it is the female DNA that passes down intact through the years and most of the female lineage is not identified in the BofM. What is the linage of Ismael and Zoram? For more on this issue you might want to check out fairlds.com. This is a group of LDS apologists that are tracking the issue. George - Original Message - From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon > Who is keeping up on the DNA evidence supporting or refuting the Book of > Mormon on the origins of the American Indian? > > I notice that there is some kind of symposium coming up on whether or not > DNA evidence supports or refutes a middle eastern origin for Native > Americans. Surely if Lehi was a Hebrew and the ancestor of some > significant portion of today's Lamanites, that fact will be buttressed by > DNA evidence, don't you think? > > John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === > "There is no place in this work for those who believe only > in the gospel of doom and gloom. The gospel is good > news. It is a message of triumph." --Gordon B. Hinckley > === > All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
delete it is, with a knowing smile on my face :-) George - Original Message - From: "Paul Osborne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon > > On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:34:15 -0600 George Cobabe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Once again Paul, you find it easy to throw out accusations but are > > unable to > > back your words up. I am not trying to get you going about > > anything. The > > discussion was in regard to FAIR and what they had to say. You have > > been > > unwilling to come up with anything to back up your statements. > > > > An apology or at least a retraction would be in order, but I do not > > expect > > that it will be forthcoming. > > > > George > > > Spare me, please. Go do your research. I can talk off the cuff if I want. > If you don't like it just press delete. > > Paul O > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
Paul: You have such a tendency to throw things around. Could you provide a reference for anyone who believes about Deer and Wooden swords? Hopefully a url!!! George - Original Message - From: "Paul Osborne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon > > On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 07:39:36 -0800 "John W. Redelfs" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I doubt if you will get banned on this list, Paul. We are not PC. > > Of > > course, if you really tried --JWR > > > Thanks JR, as I do try to be extra good around here. I do have to say > though that I almost cried when I found out that apologists at BYU now > say the Nephites rode deer and not horses. Now we have wooden swords and > deer. Somehow that is not what I think Joseph Smith was seeing in the > Urim & Thummim. I'm sad. > > :-( > > Paul O > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:58:43 -0400 Grampa Bill in Savannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul Osborne wrote: > > >I'm brutally honest just like JR is but with less tact. > > > > Grampa Bill asks: > Less tact than JR? > Hard to believe! :-) > Love y'all, > Grampa Bill in Savannah What do you think JWR? Am I worse than you. Be honest! Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
At 08:58 PM 8/11/2003 -0400, Grampa Bill wrote: Paul Osborne wrote: I'm brutally honest just like JR is but with less tact. Grampa Bill asks: Less tact than JR? Hard to believe! :-) Till says: Hard to conceive! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
At 07:14 AM 8/11/2003, you wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 05:59:17 -0600 George Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For more on this issue you might want to check out fairlds.com. > This is a > group of LDS apologists that are tracking the issue. Yeah, and this lousy board just excommunicated me for making statements about physiological differences of African lips and that Jesus could not have been black because of the seed of Cain. This world is getting so PC, I can hardly stand to live in it anymore. Who is claiming that Jesus was black? Ideas like this is why I tend to steer away from FAIR--in my experience I've found them to be a bunch of wannabe scholars but lacking in far too many areas. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Explore Freedom: http://www.geocities.com/graymada // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:13:22 -0600 George Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul, you should know that the FAIR message boards are not the FAIR > members, > but rather visitors who post what they want. If that is the best > you can > do - accuse FAIR of being responsible for everything on the message > boards > then you need to correct yourself and tell it correctly. > > Now it you can give me a reference I will check it out, but I have > no time > to do your homework and cover your statements for you. > > George Ok, George, Just forget it then. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
Once again Paul, you find it easy to throw out accusations but are unable to back your words up. I am not trying to get you going about anything. The discussion was in regard to FAIR and what they had to say. You have been unwilling to come up with anything to back up your statements. An apology or at least a retraction would be in order, but I do not expect that it will be forthcoming. George - Original Message - From: "Paul Osborne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon > > On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 07:22:05 -0600 George Cobabe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > OK, Paul I will forget it, especially if you will not just throw > > irresponsible statements and claims about just any old way. > > > > George > > > Oh come on George, you're just trying to get me started. I'm not that > dumb. I've been around the block a few times. It won't work this time. > I'm going to keep quiet this time and let you wonder about why it is > FARMS apologists are now saying that the Nephites used wooden swords to > counter the lack of physical evidence at the foot of the hill Cumorah and > that FARMS has bowed to science who says there were no horses in America > so they now say they rode deer and not horses as translated by Joseph, > so, I'll be responsible and not just throw statements out on the Zion > list to upset people like you; my mouth is sealed. > > > > Paul O > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] DNA and the Book of Mormon
At 08:14 AM 8/11/2003 -0500, Paul wrote: Anyway, I'm going to shut up now because I seem to get banned just about every where I go. Thank you very much, Paul. Rick Mathis // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
