Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-02 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I can only say "amen". I'm also upset that I have to pay GST on things I buy from
the States. I think a US plant would rather set up in a maquiladora in Ciudad
Juarez, for instance, where environmental and labour laws are primitive, than allow
those same workers into an Arizona or Texas plant. It's cheaper, and in effect
allows them to export their pollution. As far as I'm concerned NAFTA is only a
half-measure. And even in the areas where it's supposed to work, Mexico and Canada
are at the mercy of the US's domestic protectionist politicians. We have, in
effect, a form of taxation without representation -- witness the ongoing softwood
lumber issue. Mexico and Canada have also lost NAFTA tribunal challenges, but the
US has lost the vast majority of them, but domestic interests push the DoC to
defend domestic interests to the hilt.

So it's a long ways from perfect.

And then we had that bonehead Pat Buchanan, calling Canada "Canucklestan" because
we're supposedly a haven for terrorists and aren't free traders (!) (we supposedly
"manipulate" our currency exchange rate to undercut domestic, US manufacturers). He
was interviewed by an amazingly indulgent Mary Lou Findlay on As It Happens and he
had the nerve to say, in response to Findlay pointing out that all of the 911
bombers had entered the USA directly, and completely legally, by saying, "that
doesn't mean we trust Canada." Talk about your non sequiturs. Talk about your
idjuts. But he serves a purpose: as long as he's around, he makes Bush look like
Solomon.

Don't get me started...

"John W. Redelfs" wrote:

> At 08:07 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
> >I'm sorry to hear that. It can be very disruptive and discouraging, and I
> >wish you
> >all the best in finding something you enjoy as soon as possible. And
> >seriously, if
> >you're a high-tech worker or a professional in various other departments, as a
> >citizen of a NAFTA country you can get a job anywhere in the US, Mexico or
> >Canada
> >with very minimal paperwork (far less than what one needs to get an H1B, for
> >instance).
>
> So if NAFTA and its global counterpart, the WTO, are truly in favor of free
> trade why are only high tech workers permitted to go wherever the work
> is?  Free trade DEMANDS a free flow of labor as well as a lowering of
> tariffs.  And when I say a free flow of labor, I am talking about the way
> labor flows from one state to another here in the USA.
>
> The bottom line is:  When supporters of NAFTA and the WTO use the phrase
> free trade, they are being hypocrites.  They have no interest in genuinely
> free trade.  It would break their monopolies.
>
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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-02 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 08:07 PM, Friday, 11/1/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:

I'm sorry to hear that. It can be very disruptive and discouraging, and I 
wish you
all the best in finding something you enjoy as soon as possible. And 
seriously, if
you're a high-tech worker or a professional in various other departments, as a
citizen of a NAFTA country you can get a job anywhere in the US, Mexico or 
Canada
with very minimal paperwork (far less than what one needs to get an H1B, for
instance).

So if NAFTA and its global counterpart, the WTO, are truly in favor of free 
trade why are only high tech workers permitted to go wherever the work 
is?  Free trade DEMANDS a free flow of labor as well as a lowering of 
tariffs.  And when I say a free flow of labor, I am talking about the way 
labor flows from one state to another here in the USA.

The bottom line is:  When supporters of NAFTA and the WTO use the phrase 
free trade, they are being hypocrites.  They have no interest in genuinely 
free trade.  It would break their monopolies.


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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Double bummer. Well, look after your own emotional health, too. I've learned the
hard way that physical illness can have all kinds of psychological effects which
in turn exacerbate the physical illness. I wish I had known that before I
"decided" to get sick. :-/

You'll be in our prayers.

Steven Montgomery wrote:

> At 07:50 PM 11/1/2002, you wrote:
> > >Ok, I was just asking. Yet, it was not entirely a "throw away remark,"
> >as
> > >after four years at a job that was perfect for myself and family at the
> > >time, I now find myself among the ranks of the unemployed.
> >
> >
> >O dear! I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you get...
> >
> >Paul O
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>
> First things first. I'm not going to seriously look until I get my wife's
> upcoming operation out of the way. It's a fairly serious one, which will
> take her about six weeks to recuperate so until then I'm Mr. Mom around the
> house.  Job hunting unfortunately has to take a back seat at the moment.
>
> --
> Steven Montgomery
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> able to teach that which would be best calculated to promote the interests
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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Now, if we can just stop the flow of terrorists from the US into our country that'll 
be even
better.

Grampa Bill wrote:

> Marc A. Schindler wrote:
>
> > Our foreign affairs people
> >are advising Canadian citizens who were born in the Middle East not to travel via 
>the US.
> >
> =
> Grampa Bill comments:
> Well, that's about the best news I've heard lately!
>
> "Don't waste the atonement."
> Sue Woodbury, Oct. 20, 2002
>
> Love y'all,
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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-01 Thread Paul Osborne
>Ok, I was just asking. Yet, it was not entirely a "throw away remark,"
as 
>after four years at a job that was perfect for myself and family at the 
>time, I now find myself among the ranks of the unemployed.


O dear! I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you get...

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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I'm sorry to hear that. It can be very disruptive and discouraging, and I wish you
all the best in finding something you enjoy as soon as possible. And seriously, if
you're a high-tech worker or a professional in various other departments, as a
citizen of a NAFTA country you can get a job anywhere in the US, Mexico or Canada
with very minimal paperwork (far less than what one needs to get an H1B, for
instance). But you need to hit Monster board and similar sites, as well as local
headhunters, to find out where your kind of jobs are.  (www.monster.com or
www.monster.ca)

Steven Montgomery wrote:

> Ok, I was just asking. Yet, it was not entirely a "throw away remark," as
> after four years at a job that was perfect for myself and family at the
> time, I now find myself among the ranks of the unemployed.
>
> --
> Steven Montgomery
>
> At 11:29 AM 11/1/2002, you wrote:
> >Well, I'm not a headhunter so can't say, and realize this is a "throw-away
> >remark,"

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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-01 Thread Grampa Bill
Marc A. Schindler wrote:


Our foreign affairs people
are advising Canadian citizens who were born in the Middle East not to travel via the US. 

=
Grampa Bill comments:
   Well, that's about the best news I've heard lately!

"Don't waste the atonement."
Sue Woodbury, Oct. 20, 2002

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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler


Stephen Beecroft wrote:

> -Marc-
> > when it can dip *below* -40oC (which is also, as you probably
> > know, -40oF).
>
> This is unnecessarily cruel. There was no need to preempt my favorite
> smart-alek comment. Meanie.
>

You mean how F really means Foreignheat?

>
> Stephen
>
> Automobiles don't kill people. People driving automobiles kill people.

Which is why we license the drivers and the machines.

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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-01 Thread Steven Montgomery
Ok, I was just asking. Yet, it was not entirely a "throw away remark," as 
after four years at a job that was perfect for myself and family at the 
time, I now find myself among the ranks of the unemployed.

--
Steven Montgomery

At 11:29 AM 11/1/2002, you wrote:
Well, I'm not a headhunter so can't say, and realize this is a "throw-away 
remark,"
but since I'm still an Alberta civil servant responsible for high-tech trade
promotion, even though I'm on medical leave, the salesman cells in my blood
(vendocytes, they're called...) are still there. Heaven knows they've tried to
flush them out with transfusions of fresh frozen plasma

But I am proud of our sister ministry's website, Economic Development :
http://www.alberta-canada.com/index.html

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RE: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-01 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Marc-
> when it can dip *below* -40oC (which is also, as you probably
> know, -40oF).

This is unnecessarily cruel. There was no need to preempt my favorite 
smart-alek comment. Meanie.

Stephen

Automobiles don't kill people. People driving automobiles kill people. 
And the sooner we can get all those automobiles off the streets and 
license all automobile salesmen, the sooner we'll feel safe again, like 
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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-11-01 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Well, I'm not a headhunter so can't say, and realize this is a "throw-away remark,"
but since I'm still an Alberta civil servant responsible for high-tech trade
promotion, even though I'm on medical leave, the salesman cells in my blood
(vendocytes, they're called...) are still there. Heaven knows they've tried to
flush them out with transfusions of fresh frozen plasma

But I am proud of our sister ministry's website, Economic Development :
http://www.alberta-canada.com/index.html
The minister is our own local MLA (Member of the Legislative Assembly), Mark
Norris, one of the nicest guys you could ever hope to meet.  I'm technically in
Innovation and Science but our particular group within the ministry (headed by a
LDS) works closely with Economic Development, and I've gone with them on what I've
taken to calling "Viking raids" to Silicon Valley to attract H1B workers to come up
to Canada. Our work permits are much more liberal than H1B visas and we have a
thriving South Asian community in places like Edmonton, Vancouver and Toronto.
Calgary has a thriving Far Eastern (Chinese, Taiwanese, Hong Kong, Malaysian,
Japanese) community.

But bring your woollies. While Calgary's cold isn't quite as extreme as Edmonton's,
it's at a higher altitude, and has very unpredictable weather. Edmonton's is
predictable, and almost every year we get about a 3-week period, usually in
January, when it can dip *below* -40oC (which is also, as you probably know,
-40oF). But it's dry and not as windy here as further south.

Steven Montgomery wrote:

> Things have changed indeed. Got any good job openings up there in maple
> leaf land?
>
> --
> Steven Montgomery
>
> At 02:40 PM 10/31/2002, you wrote:
> >You really don't want to get into this again. I'd rather face a guy with a
> >bat than
> >a guy with a firearm. Common sense. Ironically, a Canadian is now in a New
> >York
> >state jail because he brought his hunting rifle with him as he crossed the
> >border
> >to fill up at a gas station 15 metres from the border. The actual border
> >crossing
> >is about a kilometre further down the road, and locals had been using this gas
> >station for years, as the gas prices in Quebec are quite high.
> >
> >But things have changed -- you're losing your freedoms. Our foreign
> >affairs people
> >are advising Canadian citizens who were born in the Middle East not to
> >travel via
> >the US. One, a man originally from Syria, was enroute from Damascus, where
> >he'd
> >been visiting family (the first time he'd been there since he left, as a
> >child),
> >and was deported from JFK back to Syria. Canadian consular officials
> >weren't even
> >informed, in direct violation of the Vienna Convention.
> >
> >It's a pretty sad state of affairs when we pinko socialists have more
> >freedom than
> >you do.
> >
> >"John W. Redelfs" wrote:
> >
> > > At 08:46 PM, Wednesday, 10/30/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
> > > >Marc A. Schindler
> > > >Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland
> > > >
> > > >Guns don't kill people; people with guns kill people.
> > >
> > > And people with knives.  And people with rocks.  And people with
> > baseball bats.
> > >
> > > A few years ago here in Ketchikan Ward, a member who had not attended
> > > church since he was a teenager, tried to rob a local man.  There was a
> > > struggle.  The robber picked up a rock and hit his intended victim on the
> > > head, and he died.  And just last year there were 3 or 4 murders.  One of
> > > the victims was just beat to death.  It doesn't take a gun to kill
> > > people.  All it takes is a murderer.  And if we take away their guns, they
> > > will just murder using something else.
> > >
> > > Did anyone read in the newspaper about six months ago about a playground
> > > rampage in Japan?  I think about 13 children we killed, and the murderer
> > > used a knife, not a gun.
> > >
> > > What we need is murderer control, not gun control.
> > >
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> > > and more planets fall under the ruthless domination of
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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-10-31 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 05:42 PM, Thursday, 10/31/02, Paul Osborne wrote:

Not me, Marc. The damage done by a bat could leave me in terrible shape
with broken bones and a bashed in skull. The gun will probably kill me
and send me on my way to bliss. So, I'll take the gun & bullet, please,
with a coke and an order of french fries too.


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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-10-31 Thread Paul Osborne
>You really don't want to get into this again. I'd rather face a guy with
a bat than
>a guy with a firearm. 


Not me, Marc. The damage done by a bat could leave me in terrible shape
with broken bones and a bashed in skull. The gun will probably kill me
and send me on my way to bliss. So, I'll take the gun & bullet, please,
with a coke and an order of french fries too.

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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-10-31 Thread Steven Montgomery
Things have changed indeed. Got any good job openings up there in maple 
leaf land?

--
Steven Montgomery

At 02:40 PM 10/31/2002, you wrote:
You really don't want to get into this again. I'd rather face a guy with a 
bat than
a guy with a firearm. Common sense. Ironically, a Canadian is now in a New 
York
state jail because he brought his hunting rifle with him as he crossed the 
border
to fill up at a gas station 15 metres from the border. The actual border 
crossing
is about a kilometre further down the road, and locals had been using this gas
station for years, as the gas prices in Quebec are quite high.

But things have changed -- you're losing your freedoms. Our foreign 
affairs people
are advising Canadian citizens who were born in the Middle East not to 
travel via
the US. One, a man originally from Syria, was enroute from Damascus, where 
he'd
been visiting family (the first time he'd been there since he left, as a 
child),
and was deported from JFK back to Syria. Canadian consular officials 
weren't even
informed, in direct violation of the Vienna Convention.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs when we pinko socialists have more 
freedom than
you do.

"John W. Redelfs" wrote:

> At 08:46 PM, Wednesday, 10/30/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
> >Marc A. Schindler
> >Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland
> >
> >Guns don't kill people; people with guns kill people.
>
> And people with knives.  And people with rocks.  And people with 
baseball bats.
>
> A few years ago here in Ketchikan Ward, a member who had not attended
> church since he was a teenager, tried to rob a local man.  There was a
> struggle.  The robber picked up a rock and hit his intended victim on the
> head, and he died.  And just last year there were 3 or 4 murders.  One of
> the victims was just beat to death.  It doesn't take a gun to kill
> people.  All it takes is a murderer.  And if we take away their guns, they
> will just murder using something else.
>
> Did anyone read in the newspaper about six months ago about a playground
> rampage in Japan?  I think about 13 children we killed, and the murderer
> used a knife, not a gun.
>
> What we need is murderer control, not gun control.
>
> John W. Redelfs   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ===
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> and more planets fall under the ruthless domination of
> our solar system." --Jack Handy
> ===
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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-10-31 Thread Marc A. Schindler
You really don't want to get into this again. I'd rather face a guy with a bat than
a guy with a firearm. Common sense. Ironically, a Canadian is now in a New York
state jail because he brought his hunting rifle with him as he crossed the border
to fill up at a gas station 15 metres from the border. The actual border crossing
is about a kilometre further down the road, and locals had been using this gas
station for years, as the gas prices in Quebec are quite high.

But things have changed -- you're losing your freedoms. Our foreign affairs people
are advising Canadian citizens who were born in the Middle East not to travel via
the US. One, a man originally from Syria, was enroute from Damascus, where he'd
been visiting family (the first time he'd been there since he left, as a child),
and was deported from JFK back to Syria. Canadian consular officials weren't even
informed, in direct violation of the Vienna Convention.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs when we pinko socialists have more freedom than
you do.

"John W. Redelfs" wrote:

> At 08:46 PM, Wednesday, 10/30/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:
> >Marc A. Schindler
> >Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland
> >
> >Guns don't kill people; people with guns kill people.
>
> And people with knives.  And people with rocks.  And people with baseball bats.
>
> A few years ago here in Ketchikan Ward, a member who had not attended
> church since he was a teenager, tried to rob a local man.  There was a
> struggle.  The robber picked up a rock and hit his intended victim on the
> head, and he died.  And just last year there were 3 or 4 murders.  One of
> the victims was just beat to death.  It doesn't take a gun to kill
> people.  All it takes is a murderer.  And if we take away their guns, they
> will just murder using something else.
>
> Did anyone read in the newspaper about six months ago about a playground
> rampage in Japan?  I think about 13 children we killed, and the murderer
> used a knife, not a gun.
>
> What we need is murderer control, not gun control.
>
> John W. Redelfs   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> and more planets fall under the ruthless domination of
> our solar system." --Jack Handy
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Re: [ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-10-31 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 08:46 PM, Wednesday, 10/30/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote:

Marc A. Schindler
Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland

Guns don't kill people; people with guns kill people.


And people with knives.  And people with rocks.  And people with baseball bats.

A few years ago here in Ketchikan Ward, a member who had not attended 
church since he was a teenager, tried to rob a local man.  There was a 
struggle.  The robber picked up a rock and hit his intended victim on the 
head, and he died.  And just last year there were 3 or 4 murders.  One of 
the victims was just beat to death.  It doesn't take a gun to kill 
people.  All it takes is a murderer.  And if we take away their guns, they 
will just murder using something else.

Did anyone read in the newspaper about six months ago about a playground 
rampage in Japan?  I think about 13 children we killed, and the murderer 
used a knife, not a gun.

What we need is murderer control, not gun control.

John W. Redelfs   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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and more planets fall under the ruthless domination of
our solar system." --Jack Handy
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All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR

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