Re: [ZODB-Dev] undo (and storage interface) brokenness

2009-12-24 Thread Jean Jordaan
I agree that it's handy, and that people would be upset if it disappeared. But I also agree that people trust it far more than they should, and that it's really only dependable for developers to roll back transactions -- however, for that, I think it's invaluable (i.e. very valuable). So I think

Re: [ZODB-Dev] undo (and storage interface) brokenness

2009-12-24 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
On 24/12/09 03:09, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Unfortunately, I think the people most likely to have used it in a pinch are less likely to be reading this list. If the current API is broken, we should fix it. If that means fixing some of the UI in Zope to use a new API,

Re: [ZODB-Dev] undo (and storage interface) brokenness

2009-12-24 Thread Vincent Pelletier
On Wednesday 23 December 2009 20:26:13 Jim Fulton wrote: Undo is broken in a number of ways. Does anyone care? Does anyone use undo? First, a disclaimer: what I state below is from Zope 2.8-ish experiences, with its original ZODB version. I hope my mail is still on topic nevertheless. In my

[ZODB-Dev] Undo alternatives

2009-12-24 Thread Jim Fulton
As I mentioned in another message, undo is staying, but, as many also mentioned in that thread, undo often doesn't work due to conflicts. I thought I'd mention some alternatives: - Time travel ZODB has a number of facilities for time travel: - Object history There's an API for looking

[ZODB-Dev] RFC: Drop Python 2.4 support in ZODB 3.10

2009-12-24 Thread Jim Fulton
I propose to drop Python 2.4 support in ZODB 3.10, mainly so I can use the with statement to clean up the code. Any objections? Jim -- Jim Fulton ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RFC: Drop Python 2.4 support in ZODB 3.10

2009-12-24 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: I propose to drop Python 2.4 support in ZODB 3.10, mainly so I can use the with statement to clean up the code. Any objections? No objections from the Zope 2 side. Andreas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10