On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be wrote:
As far as I can understand, THE reason for repozo is to backup without
stopping the ZODB.
[I'm a little late to this conversation.]
Filestorages can be backed up without stopping anything.
Any incomplete writes that
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Benji York be...@zope.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be
wrote:
As far as I can understand, THE reason for repozo is to backup without
stopping the ZODB.
[I'm a little late to this conversation.]
Filestorages
Jim Fulton wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Benji York be...@zope.com wrote:
Any incomplete writes that are in progress at the time of the copy will
simply be ignored when the resulting backup is opened later.
Note that this assumes that you are using a straightforward linear copy.
Daniel Kraft wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Benji York be...@zope.com wrote:
Any incomplete writes that are in progress at the time of the copy will
simply be ignored when the resulting backup is opened later.
Note that this assumes that you are using a
On 12/09/2009 12:06 AM, Shane Hathaway wrote:
Daniel Kraft wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Benji Yorkbe...@zope.com wrote:
Any incomplete writes that are in progress at the time of the copy will
simply be ignored when the resulting backup is opened later.
Note that
Christian Theune wrote:
Not exactly: it's still a good idea to store away deltas as single large
files are still hard to deal with except if you have really good
block-level de-duplication in your filesystem. (Uhmm. I guess ZFS
probably has all of that. It also probably serves my dinner.)
On 12/09/2009 02:25 AM, Shane Hathaway wrote:
Christian Theune wrote:
Not exactly: it's still a good idea to store away deltas as single large
files are still hard to deal with except if you have really good
block-level de-duplication in your filesystem. (Uhmm. I guess ZFS
probably has all of
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
...
More
importantly, Chris' change touches non-trivial
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
Well, not really fair enough. I just looked at the change that Chris
made. It has a bug
that would be caught by your test if anyone tried to port repozo to
Python 3.
Which alternate reality are
Jim Fulton wrote:
snip
No one seems to be willing to step up and take responsibility.
I guess everyone assumes I will.
Jim
I'll take the responsibility of transforming the manual test to an
automated...
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Jim Fulton wrote:
No one seems to be willing to step up and take responsibility.
I guess everyone assumes I will.
I know a thing or two about trying to entice people to help maintain
open source software. It's certainly not easy. But from a casual
observer's perspective, this whole exchange
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
snip
No one seems to be willing to step up and take responsibility.
I guess everyone assumes I will.
Jim
I'll take the responsibility of transforming the manual test to an
automated...
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
In any case, nothing is deleted in subversion. If someone creates even
minimal tests that exercise the code you changed, then I'll
be happy to reapply the change. At some point, if no one takes
Jim Fulton wrote:
BTW, offline back ups if file-storage even with Blobs is
straightforward without repozo.
I couldn't parse this, could you restate particularly wrt to what ou
mean by offline? If there's a way other than repozo, then it would be
great to know what it was...
Chris
--
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
BTW, offline back ups if file-storage even with Blobs is
straightforward without repozo.
I couldn't parse this, could you restate particularly wrt to what ou mean by
offline? If there's a way other
Jeff Shell wrote:
I'm not sure whose expectations you're satisfying as the items in
ZODB.scripts are a wild and inconsistent mess. It's been trial and error just
to find ones that seem to work, outside of repozo.
Oh the irony of the one script that Jim is looking to remove, because
someone
Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
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No one seems to be willing to step up and take responsibility.
I guess everyone assumes I will.
Jim
I'll take the responsibility of transforming the manual test to an
automated...
Done in
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Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
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No one seems to be willing to step up and take responsibility.
I guess everyone assumes I will.
Jim
I'll take the responsibility of transforming the manual test to
Tres Seaver wrote:
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Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
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No one seems to be willing to step up and take responsibility.
I guess everyone assumes I will.
Jim
I'll take the responsibility of
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
...
I don't want people to contribute crap. You've made some reasonable
contributions recently so I know you are capable of
producing
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be wrote:
Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
snip
No one seems to be willing to step up and take responsibility.
I guess everyone assumes I will.
Jim
I'll take the responsibility of transforming the manual
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Jeff Shell j...@bottlerocket.net wrote:
On Dec 2, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com
wrote:
Jim Fulton wrote:
...
BTW, offline back ups if file-storage even with Blobs is
Tres Seaver wrote:
- - Avoid shellling out to run repozo, but rather use its main(),
passing argv.
I thought of this but decided to not go that way to test that repozo can
actually run on a living database. Even if the code that was there still
needs to be modified to achieve that goal.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
- - Avoid shellling out to run repozo, but rather use its main(),
passing argv.
I thought of this but decided to not go that way to test that repozo can
actually run on a living database. Even
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
...
I just checked in a stupid test to ensure that repozo can be imported.
- --- src/ZODB/scripts/tests.py (revision 105913)
+++ src/ZODB/scripts/tests.py
Jim Fulton wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
...
I just checked in a stupid test to ensure that repozo can be imported.
- --- src/ZODB/scripts/tests.py (revision 105913)
+++
Martin Aspeli wrote:
- there were no tests for the existing code
There are tests, they're just manual and spew a lot of output even when
passing, but they do (as best I could tell) exercise the backup and
restore cycle quite heavily.
I ran these before and after to verify they didn't fail
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