Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZODB Documentation

2009-05-26 Thread Jim Fulton

On May 26, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Laurence Rowe wrote:

 A few weeks ago I converted the ZODB/ZEO Programming Guide and a few
 more articles into structured text and added them to the zope2docs
 buildout. I've now moved them to their own buildout in
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zodbdocs/trunk and they will soon
 appear at http://docs.zope.org/zodb (thanks Jens!)


 This means we now have two copies of the programming guide, one in  
 latex
 in the ZODB sources and one in stx in zodbdocs. I'd like to propose
 removing the latex version and direct any changes to the stx version.


+1

(I'd repressed knowledge of the latex version.)

Jim

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Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZODB Documentation

2009-05-26 Thread Andreas Jung
On 26.05.09 18:54, Laurence Rowe wrote:
 A few weeks ago I converted the ZODB/ZEO Programming Guide and a few 
 more articles into structured text and added them to the zope2docs 
 buildout. I've now moved them to their own buildout in 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zodbdocs/trunk and they will soon 
 appear at http://docs.zope.org/zodb (thanks Jens!)
   

There is also (the same=) ZODB documentation available under

http://docs.zope.org/zope2/articles/

We should get rid of one copy.

Andreas
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Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZODB Documentation

2009-05-26 Thread Andreas Jung
On 26.05.09 19:08, Andreas Jung wrote:
 On 26.05.09 18:54, Laurence Rowe wrote:
   
 A few weeks ago I converted the ZODB/ZEO Programming Guide and a few 
 more articles into structured text and added them to the zope2docs 
 buildout. I've now moved them to their own buildout in 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zodbdocs/trunk and they will soon 
 appear at http://docs.zope.org/zodb (thanks Jens!)
   
 
 There is also (the same=) ZODB documentation available under

 http://docs.zope.org/zope2/articles/

 We should get rid of one copy.
   
oppss..sorry, for misreading...just seen your checkins for moving the stuff.

Andreas
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Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZODB Documentation

2009-05-26 Thread Laurence Rowe
Andreas Jung wrote:
 On 26.05.09 19:08, Andreas Jung wrote:
 On 26.05.09 18:54, Laurence Rowe wrote:
   
 A few weeks ago I converted the ZODB/ZEO Programming Guide and a few 
 more articles into structured text and added them to the zope2docs 
 buildout. I've now moved them to their own buildout in 
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zodbdocs/trunk and they will soon 
 appear at http://docs.zope.org/zodb (thanks Jens!)
   
 
 There is also (the same=) ZODB documentation available under

 http://docs.zope.org/zope2/articles/

 We should get rid of one copy.
   
 oppss..sorry, for misreading...just seen your checkins for moving the stuff.

They're actually copies at the moment, once Jens performs his magic I'll 
remove them from the Zope 2 buildout.

Laurence

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Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZODB Documentation

2009-05-26 Thread Laurence Rowe
Jim Fulton wrote:
 On May 26, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Laurence Rowe wrote:
 
 A few weeks ago I converted the ZODB/ZEO Programming Guide and a few
 more articles into structured text and added them to the zope2docs
 buildout. I've now moved them to their own buildout in
 svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zodbdocs/trunk and they will soon
 appear at http://docs.zope.org/zodb (thanks Jens!)


 This means we now have two copies of the programming guide, one in  
 latex
 in the ZODB sources and one in stx in zodbdocs. I'd like to propose
 removing the latex version and direct any changes to the stx version.
 
 
 +1
 
 (I'd repressed knowledge of the latex version.)

Done.

Laurence

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Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZODB Documentation

2009-05-26 Thread Alan Runyan
Would it be useful to have a document that starts detailing sections that are
missing in ZODB/ZEO programming guide?

i.e.
  - Blobs are not mentioned.
  - ZEO/Persistent disk cache not mentioned
  - xdb reference safetybelt
  - Documentation of various backend storages
- Relstorage, Demostorage, Filestorage
  - MVCC is not mentioned
  - Persistence cache not described
  - savepoints vs. nested transaction
  - Diagnostic recipes (how to diagnosis your application)
  - Known Limitations

How do you guys suggest we work on documentation?
Would it be useful to come up with an outline of the target
documentation?  Then people could start filling in some details.

Maybe Jim could then review instead of produce the documentation?

cheers
alan
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Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZODB Documentation

2009-05-26 Thread Jim Fulton

On May 26, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Alan Runyan wrote:

 Would it be useful to have a document that starts detailing sections  
 that are
 missing in ZODB/ZEO programming guide?

I'd honestly rather start from scratch with something that is more  
oriented to users.  Of course, I'd want it to be complete.

 i.e.
  - Blobs are not mentioned.
  - ZEO/Persistent disk cache not mentioned
  - xdb reference safetybelt
  - Documentation of various backend storages
- Relstorage, Demostorage, Filestorage
  - MVCC is not mentioned
  - Persistence cache not described
  - savepoints vs. nested transaction
  - Diagnostic recipes (how to diagnosis your application)
  - Known Limitations

 How do you guys suggest we work on documentation?
 Would it be useful to come up with an outline of the target
 documentation?  Then people could start filling in some details.

 Maybe Jim could then review instead of produce the documentation?

I'd actually like to produce this documentation myself.  I've already  
started something.  It got pushed aside by another project, but I  
expect to get back to it soon.

Jim

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