[zones-discuss] Re: Can SAMBA be run in a non-global zone?

2006-10-13 Thread Jiri Sasek
please note: "/etc/init.d/samba stop" ...SYSVinit command using "pkill smbd ; pkill nmbd" so such command issued in global zone will kill all Samba's running in non-global zones!!! Currently this issue is solved tracking the smbd.pid, nmbd.pid and winbind pid 's by "start method" called from s

[zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
IHAC that is looking to split out zone management roles. The zone administrator creates and manages the local zones however that person should not be able to see the data in the zone for security purposes. They should only be able to manipulate the resources assigned to the zone, as well as crea

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Jeff Victor
Brian Kolaci wrote: IHAC that is looking to split out zone management roles. The zone administrator creates and manages the local zones however that person should not be able to see the data in the zone for security purposes. They should only be able to manipulate the resources assigned to th

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
Jeff Victor wrote: Brian Kolaci wrote: IHAC that is looking to split out zone management roles. The zone administrator creates and manages the local zones however that person should not be able to see the data in the zone for security purposes. They should only be able to manipulate the res

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Jeff Victor
Brian Kolaci wrote: Jeff Victor wrote: Brian Kolaci wrote: IHAC that is looking to split out zone management roles. The zone administrator creates and manages the local zones however that person should not be able to see the data in the zone for security purposes. They should only be able t

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Michael Barto
This  probably sacrilege, but some of these zone security issues might be better served with Secure Solaris,  if the security requirements are this extreme (e.g . DOD). Adding complex security always add complex overhead. On the other hand locking out the global zone to all purposes and adminis

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
Jeff Victor wrote: Brian Kolaci wrote: Jeff Victor wrote: Brian Kolaci wrote: IHAC that is looking to split out zone management roles. The zone administrator creates and manages the local zones however that person should not be able to see the data in the zone for security purposes. They

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
Its more of a separation of duties. The zone management admin is not necessarily the same person as the application admin in a local zone (however it could be the same person, then this particular item would be moot). The management is bad, but thats just the way it is and always was. Audit req

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread David . Comay
I propose that zlogin be split into two different programs, one for console access and one for running programs and/or shell. A simple way to do this (and would be backward compatible) would be to create a hard link to zlogin, say 'zconsole' that when it is executed the program can test arg0 and a

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Glenn Brunette
Brian, It was basically for this reason that I wrote up a small tool called rzlogin a while back. This particular tool was focused solely on restricting access to zone console logins, but it did leverage some of the ideas called out by David Comay in 4963290 - namely using Solaris authorization

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Kraus
On 10/13/06, Michael Barto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This probably sacrilege, but some of these zone security issues might be better served with Secure Solaris, if the security requirements are this extreme (e.g . DOD). Adding complex security always add complex overhead. On the other hand l

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose that zlogin be split into two different programs, one for console access and one for running programs and/or shell. A simple way to do this (and would be backward compatible) would be to create a hard link to zlogin, say 'zconsole' that when it is executed the p

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Brian Kolaci
I think the customer would be very interested in this tool, however one of the gripes is that things of this nature aren't built in and that they have to construct 'add-ons' to build a base SOE system. Glenn Brunette wrote: Brian, It was basically for this reason that I wrote up a small tool c

[zones-discuss] Re: zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Glenn Faden
Michael Barto wrote: > This probably sacrilege, but some of these zone > security issues might > be better served with Secure Solaris, if the > security requirements are > this extreme (e.g . DOD). Adding complex security > always add complex > overhead. On the other hand locking out the glob

Re: [zones-discuss] zone management and security

2006-10-13 Thread Dan Price
On Fri 13 Oct 2006 at 02:04PM, Brian Kolaci wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>I propose that zlogin be split into two different programs, one > >>for console access and one for running programs and/or shell. > >>A simple way to do this (and would be backward compatible) would be to > >>create a

Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Can SAMBA be run in a non-global zone?

2006-10-13 Thread Mike Gerdts
On 10/13/06, Jiri Sasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: please note: "/etc/init.d/samba stop" ...SYSVinit command using "pkill smbd ; pkill nmbd" so such command issued in global zone will kill all Samba's running in non-global zones!!! Currently this issue is solved tracking the smbd.pid, nmbd.pid