Re: [zones-discuss] ZFS ARC cache issue

2010-06-04 Thread Petr Benes
That leaves unanswered the underlying question: why do you need to do this at all? Isn't the ZFS ARC supposed to release memory when the system is under pressure? Is that mechanism not working well in some cases ... ? http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6522017 ...

Re: [zones-discuss] ZFS ARC cache issue

2010-06-04 Thread Petr Benes
Sure ... but that refers specifically to DR-related issues, DR-related issues with kernel cage unable to return memory. In case you are on a DR-capable system you have troubles with DR itself. On other HW kernel won't just return memory to OS. and that's not what the original poster

Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-11-25 Thread Petr Benes
I bet VBox can't run inside the local zone. On 24 November 2010 20:04, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: Uhmmm... A thought just struck me. Is it really possible to do what I was thinking? If I install WinXP virtually, in VirtualBox, in a local zone - then I shut down the

Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-11-25 Thread Petr Benes
Oh, thanks. On 25 November 2010 11:25, Cyril Plisko cyril.pli...@mountall.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Petr Benes petr...@gmail.com wrote: I bet VBox can't run inside the local zone. Well, you lost. See VirtualBox User Manual 2.4.5 Configuring a zone for running VirtualBox

Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-11-25 Thread Petr Benes
Hmm. VBox obviously needs to be installed in the global zone before. Is running it in a local zone significantly safer? Yep for separating different possible users, but it won't make running guests safer per se. What is the supposed security merit there?T On 25 November 2010 11:25, Petr Benes

Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-11-25 Thread Petr Benes
Limit the damage if the Zone's VBox application is somehow subverted by the guest OS. There are VBox modules in the kernel and the containers framework can't stop misbehavior in kernelspace. Beyond security, running VBox in a Zone allows you to make use of Zone Resource Controls and

Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-11-25 Thread Petr Benes
On 26 November 2010 04:07, Jeff Victor jeff.j.vic...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Petr Benes petr...@gmail.com wrote: Limit the damage if the Zone's VBox application is somehow subverted by the guest OS. There are VBox modules in the kernel and the containers framework

Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-11-26 Thread Petr Benes
On 26 November 2010 10:50, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: petrben, Yes that is my question too: is running in a local zone safer?. That is why I created this thread. Yep and I found your question interesting and want to know more as well. If you are the only administrator

Re: [zones-discuss] Possible to use zones for hardening? Security?

2010-11-26 Thread Petr Benes
On 26 November 2010 13:25, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: If hacker exploits a bug in the VBox driver and corrupts kernel memory so he gets into the global zone, then maybe it is safer to not use VBox? If such bug exists then it'll be safer to not use VBox, however, I'm not

Re: [zones-discuss] Security through virtualization is a failure:

2010-12-27 Thread Petr Benes
But I was considering running VirtualBox in each local zone and surf from the VirtualBox virtual machines. So, in that case, then you can exploit that attack in each local zone. But you could not access the other local zones, because of underlying Zone model? As a part of VBox is located