[zones-discuss] Re: [nfs-discuss] NFS server in zones

2007-02-14 Thread Tom Haynes

And here is a link to the bug which is tracking NFS in zones:

http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=4964859

Note that the description sucks right now as far as OpenSolaris is 
concerned. I'll

get the relevant comments back into the description.

BTW: I crossposted to all of the discussion groups to get as much 
feedback as possible.
I'm willing to pull back to just the nfs-discuss group and point the 
other groups to it.

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[zones-discuss] Re: [nfs-discuss] NFS server in zones

2007-02-14 Thread Tom Haynes

Nicolas Williams wrote:



   I'd even go further and say that any user
in the global zone would not have access to /export/z1.  [...]



But if we resolve loopback NFS mount issues then any zone could access
any other zone's NFS shares provided they have logical or physical
connectivity between them.  So why not allow global zone access then,
mediated, perhaps, by NFSv4-style ID mapping?

Nico
  
What about the case where the customer wants to administer the zone they 
purchased
and they do not want the global zone admins to have local access to 
their data?


I'd say make it simple - in order to get access, you must be able to 
mount the export
and abide both by the share level machine access rules and either the 
UID mapping

(NFSv3) or ID mapping (NFSv4) rules.

Let the owner of the zone explicitly control the access to their data.

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[zones-discuss] Re: [nfs-discuss] NFS server in zones

2007-02-14 Thread Robert . Thurlow

Tom Haynes wrote:

What about the case where the customer wants to administer the zone they 
purchased
and they do not want the global zone admins to have local access to 
their data?


Well, there is a tradition in Zones of making the global zone
substantially more equal than others.  Remember that the global
zone admin can observe network traffic from local zones and can
access any files in local zones.

Rob T
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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: [nfs-discuss] NFS server in zones

2007-02-14 Thread Jeff Victor

Tom Haynes wrote:


What about the case where the customer wants to administer the zone they 
purchased
and they do not want the global zone admins to have local access to 
their data?


That would violate basics of the zones model.  The global zone admin has 
complete access to all devices attached to the system.  How would you prevent 
the GZ admin from halting the zone, manually mounting the non-global zone's 
disk partitions into the global zone, and accessing the data?


Preventing the global zone from accessing certain hardware components would 
open a very large can of worms.


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