[zones-discuss] Re: Re: Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V

2006-08-07 Thread Pierre Klovsjo
Doug, Jeff and all the rest of you guys, Thanks a bunch for all the answers!!!

After your answers and a lot of reading this weekend i have some thoughts on 
where to start.

Since i need to 'create and export' a ZFS filesystem from a Disk Array, here's 
what i will try to do:
1, Make the file system [around 110Gb] [b](/export/home/ftp)[/b] for my ZONE1 
(an Anon FTP Server) in the Global Zone. 

2, [b]'Delegate Datasets to an Non-Global Zone'[/b] as described in the 
[b]'Containers'[/b] Guide. This way the file system area for the Anon FTP 
Server will be 'local'.  

3, This goes for all of my '3' Zones that i will create. I would like to be 
able to mount any DISK POOL from the Array and to have the ability to 
[b]grow[/b] the filesystems during normal hours since we are hosting the better 
part of the world here.

One of my problems is to understand how the access to the Disk Array (HDS 
9970V) is being handled by the Non-Global Zone i.e. 'Anon FTP Server' in 
regards to the Global Zone where HBA Support is part of the Solaris 10. Where 
is the Access and HBA support handled to the ZONE's ? Transparently ?

Regards,

Pierre
 
 
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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Re: Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V

2006-08-07 Thread Jeff Victor

Pierre Klovsjo wrote:

Doug, Jeff and all the rest of you guys, Thanks a bunch for all the answers!!!

After your answers and a lot of reading this weekend i have some thoughts on
where to start.

Since i need to 'create and export' a ZFS filesystem from a Disk Array, here's
what i will try to do: 1, Make the file system [around 110Gb]
[b](/export/home/ftp)[/b] for my ZONE1 (an Anon FTP Server) in the Global Zone.

2, [b]'Delegate Datasets to an Non-Global Zone'[/b] as described in the
[b]'Containers'[/b] Guide. This way the file system area for the Anon FTP
Server will be 'local'.


Why do you want to use a delegated dataset instead of a filesystem?

It would be very simple to mount a global zone filesystem into the non-global zone 
using a LOFS mount.



3, This goes for all of my '3' Zones that i will create. I would like to be
able to mount any DISK POOL from the Array and to have the ability to
[b]grow[/b] the filesystems during normal hours since we are hosting the better
part of the world here.


Do you want to grow the filesystem while logged in to the global zone, or 
non-global zone?



One of my problems is to understand how the access to the Disk Array (HDS
9970V) is being handled by the Non-Global Zone i.e. 'Anon FTP Server' in
regards to the Global Zone where HBA Support is part of the Solaris 10. Where
is the Access and HBA support handled to the ZONE's ? Transparently ?


If you mount the filesystems in the global zone, and then use LOFS mounts into the 
non-global zone, everything is handled transparently.  The processes in the 
non-global zone 'see' a normal filesystem.



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[zones-discuss] Re: Re: Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V

2006-08-04 Thread Doug Scott
 
 
 Doug Scott wrote On 08/04/06 11:42,:
 
  create a zfs filesystem in the global zone for the
 zone. Something like
  
  $ zfs create mypool/export/zones/zone1
  $ mkdir -p /export/zones/zone1
  $ zfs set mountpoint=/export/zones/zone1
 mypool/export/zones/zone1
  
  With zonecfg set your zonepath=/export/zones/zone1
 
 Wait a sec, this doc is pretty unequivocal about
 doing this:
 http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1592/6mhahuous?a=
 view

Hmmm, I have been doing this for a long time (though on nevada) with no 
problems. If this document is correct it looks like Sun has shot itself in the 
foot and released ZFS to Solaris 10 with a zery large bug. Is UFS safe???

Doug
 
 
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Re: [zones-discuss] Re: Re: Question: Zones/Mpxio + Disk Array (HDS 9970V

2006-08-04 Thread Jerry Jelinek

Doug Scott wrote:


Doug Scott wrote On 08/04/06 11:42,:


create a zfs filesystem in the global zone for the

zone. Something like

$ zfs create mypool/export/zones/zone1
$ mkdir -p /export/zones/zone1
$ zfs set mountpoint=/export/zones/zone1

mypool/export/zones/zone1

With zonecfg set your zonepath=/export/zones/zone1

Wait a sec, this doc is pretty unequivocal about
doing this:
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1592/6mhahuous?a=
view


Hmmm, I have been doing this for a long time (though on nevada) with no 
problems. If this document is correct it looks like Sun has shot itself in the 
foot and released ZFS to Solaris 10 with a zery large bug. Is UFS safe???


For some reason the url provided does not seem to bring up
any specific section in the doc for me, so I am not sure
which section is being referenced.

Although you can put a zone on a zfs filesystem, we currently
caution against this because the upgrade support
is not available yet.  If you do this on S10u2, you won't be
able to upgrade to S10u3.  There is also an issue with how
space is calculated for installing patches when the zone is
on zfs.  We have this on the list of things to work on, but I
am not sure when it will finally be done.  In the meantime, you
have to be careful about this kind of configuration.  We do have
code already available in opensolaris which will automatically
create this kind of configuration.  It has not yet be backported
to S10 because of the these issues though.

I am not sure what the comment about 'ufs not being safe' means.

Jerry
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