I'm not sure it is within the domain of this case to to tell admins what they should and shouldn't use the global zone for.
In any event, we are making it easy for admins to manage swap limits for zones via zonecfg. On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 05:58:24PM -0800, Michael Barto wrote: > After all thus juggling, let make it simple for the system admin and use > some sort of fair share process to assignment and manage the swap for > all the zones. Personally I think that the global zone should use > minimum resources and be considered in the IT management processes to be > only like a system controller on a complex server. Keep your > applications out of the global zone!!! > > Gary Winiger wrote: > > >>>>This will not help root logins directly, but could by setting: > >>>> > >>>> usermod -K project=system root > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Or perhaps deliver root's entry this way to start with. > >>> > >>> > >>Would that be a reasonable change to make via patch? Perhaps this change > >>could be delivered to nevada, but not backported. > >> > >>It would be confusing to deliver this change, and also deliver the > >>"user.root" > >>project. If we made root's default project "system", then the "user.root" > >>project should be removed. "user.root" is kind of a bug anyhow, as SMF > >>does > >>not run root services in "user.root". Currently, only root processes > >>spawned > >>by login/pam run in "user.root". > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >>>>Perhaps this issue should be run as a seperate fasttrack? I need to > >>>>investigate the implementation impact. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> I'm looking for this case to define how to preserve the current > >>> model of "unlimited" unless one asks for a limit model in the > >>> global zone. I believe it is important from a system integrity and > >>> maintenance perspective. Other's may have different opinions. > >>> If there is a compelling reason to deliver in phases, please discuss > >>> that. > >>> > >>> > >>The global zone will have no swap limit by default. The default > >>zone.max-swap > >>rctl delivered on the global zone is UINT64_MAX, which is essentially > >>unlimited. Is that what you mean? > >> > >> > > > > My point(s) here is not so much how things get done, but that > > the global zone is in some ways special. IIRC, before this > > project, the GZ doesn't have a swap limit. After this project > > an administrator could set swap limit on the GZ. Granted this > > is administrative action and they get what they deserve/ask for. > > However, it seemed to me that part of this case "should" (my > > judgement) include some way to override the limit in case > > override is really desired. As implied, perhaps by putting > > root into project 0 at login or as part of daemon/service start > > is a way to bypass the administrator's choice in the GZ for > > some processes. What I didn't see as part of this case is > > the architecture to allow this bypass. Perhaps I'm off base > > for thinking it's necessary to protect against inadvertantly > > not being able to administer the system from the GZ. > > > >Gary.. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >zones-discuss mailing list > >zones-discuss@opensolaris.org > > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Michael Barto* > Software Architect > > LogiQwest Circle > LogiQwest Inc. > 16458 Bolsa Chica Street, # 15 > Huntington Beach, CA 92649 > http://www.logiqwest.com/ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Tel: 714 377 3705 > Fax: 714 840 3937 > Cell: 714 883 1949 > > *'tis a gift to be simple* > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This e-mail may contain LogiQwest proprietary information and should be > treated as confidential. > _______________________________________________ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
