Re: Using Zookeeper to distribute tasks

2010-04-27 Thread Ted Dunning
The general way to do this is either

a) have lots of watchers who all try to create a single file when a watched
file changes.  This is very simple to code, but leads to a lot of
notifications when you have thousands of watchers.

b) arrange the watchers in a chain.  This is similar to the recommended
queue implementation.  See
http://hadoop.apache.org/zookeeper/docs/r3.2.1/recipes.html#sc_recipes_Queues
This requires careful implementation to deal correctly with session
expiration.

c) do as in (a), but spread the load by picking one of several files to
watch.  This still has herds jumping on a single file, but you can adjust
the number of files being used to keep this at a reasonable level.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:23 AM, David Rouchy drou...@gmail.com wrote:

 My idea would be to use multiple ephemeral
 watcher connected to one znode. A process will send data to this node when
 a
 new task has to be launched. But here is my issue, I would like only one
 watcher to be triggered of this change (a random watcher in the list). Is
 there way to do such thing in ZooKeeper?



Re: Using Zookeeper to distribute tasks

2010-04-27 Thread Thomas Koch
David Rouchy:
 Hi all,
 
 We are studying using ZooKeeper to manage configuration across multiple
 processes  server. What would be also interesting, as ZooKeeper know the
 list of process running, would be to use it to distribute tasks.
 
 We have some long running tasks, so we used multiple servers to process
 multiple tasks in the same time. My idea would be to use multiple ephemeral
 watcher connected to one znode. A process will send data to this node when
  a new task has to be launched. But here is my issue, I would like only one
  watcher to be triggered of this change (a random watcher in the list). Is
  there way to do such thing in ZooKeeper?
 
 Regards,
 
 David Rouchy

Hi David,

there's gearman[1], a client-server system to distribute tasks. I've mentioned 
it already two times on this list, so sorry for the repetition. Gearman 
servers and clients are availabe in different implementations that use the 
same protocol and are interchangeable AFAIK.
If somebody would build a gearman server using Zookeeper, there would be a 
whole ecosystem for ZK for free to conquer!

[1] http://gearman.org

Regards,

Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro


Re: Using Zookeeper to distribute tasks

2010-04-27 Thread David Rouchy
Thank you for your quick answers. I'll have a look.

David

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro wrote:

 David Rouchy:
  Hi all,
 
  We are studying using ZooKeeper to manage configuration across multiple
  processes  server. What would be also interesting, as ZooKeeper know the
  list of process running, would be to use it to distribute tasks.
 
  We have some long running tasks, so we used multiple servers to process
  multiple tasks in the same time. My idea would be to use multiple
 ephemeral
  watcher connected to one znode. A process will send data to this node
 when
   a new task has to be launched. But here is my issue, I would like only
 one
   watcher to be triggered of this change (a random watcher in the list).
 Is
   there way to do such thing in ZooKeeper?
 
  Regards,
 
  David Rouchy

 Hi David,

 there's gearman[1], a client-server system to distribute tasks. I've
 mentioned
 it already two times on this list, so sorry for the repetition. Gearman
 servers and clients are availabe in different implementations that use the
 same protocol and are interchangeable AFAIK.
 If somebody would build a gearman server using Zookeeper, there would be a
 whole ecosystem for ZK for free to conquer!

 [1] http://gearman.org

 Regards,

 Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro