Re: Zookeeper on 60+Gb mem

2010-10-05 Thread Maarten Koopmans
Good point. And Cassandra is a no-go for me for now. I get the model, but I don't like, check, dislike, things like Thrift. Op 5 okt. 2010 om 23:54 heeft Dave Wright het volgende geschreven: > I think the issue of having to write a full ~60GB snapshot file at > intervals would make this pr

Re: Zookeeper on 60+Gb mem

2010-10-05 Thread Maarten Koopmans
Yup, and that's ironic, isn't it? The gc tuning is so specialistic, as is the profiling, that automated memory management (to me) hasn't brought what I hoped it would. I've had some conversations about this topic a few years back with a well respected OS designer, and his point is that we (human

Re: Zookeeper on 60+Gb mem

2010-10-05 Thread Dave Wright
I think the issue of having to write a full ~60GB snapshot file at intervals would make this prohibitive, particularly on EC2 via EBS. At a scale like that I think you'd be better off with a traditional database or a nosql database like Cassandra, possibly using Zookeeper for transaction locking/co

Re: Zookeeper on 60+Gb mem

2010-10-05 Thread Patrick Hunt
Tuning GC is going to be critical, otw all the sessions will timeout (and potentially expire) during GC pauses. Patrick On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Maarten Koopmans wrote: > Yes, and syncing after a crash will be interesting as well. Off note; I am > running it with a 6GB heap now, but it's

Re: Zookeeper on 60+Gb mem

2010-10-05 Thread Maarten Koopmans
Yes, and syncing after a crash will be interesting as well. Off note; I am running it with a 6GB heap now, but it's not filled yet. I do have smoke tests thoug, so maybe I'll give it a try. Op 5 okt. 2010 om 21:13 heeft Benjamin Reed het volgende geschreven: > > you will need to time how l

Re: Zookeeper on 60+Gb mem

2010-10-05 Thread Benjamin Reed
you will need to time how long it takes to read all that state back in and adjust the initTime accordingly. it will probably take a while to pull all that data into memory. ben On 10/05/2010 11:36 AM, Avinash Lakshman wrote: I have run it over 5 GB of heap with over 10M znodes. We will defin

Re: Zookeeper on 60+Gb mem

2010-10-05 Thread Ted Dunning
That would be an interesting experiment although it is way outside normal usage as a coordination store. I have used ZK as a session store for PHP with OK results. I never implemented an expiration mechanism so things had to be cleared out manually sometimes. It worked pretty well until things f

Re: Zookeeper on 60+Gb mem

2010-10-05 Thread Avinash Lakshman
I have run it over 5 GB of heap with over 10M znodes. We will definitely run it with over 64 GB of heap. Technically I do not see any limitiation. However I will the experts chime in. Avinash On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Mahadev Konar wrote: > Hi Maarteen, > I definitely know of a group whi

Re: Zookeeper on 60+Gb mem

2010-10-05 Thread Mahadev Konar
Hi Maarteen, I definitely know of a group which uses around 3GB of memory heap for zookeeper but never heard of someone with such huge requirements. I would say it definitely would be a learning experience with such high memory which I definitely think would be very very useful for others in the