Re: [Zope-dev] Interface localization: zzLocale 0-0-4a release

2000-11-24 Thread Yves-Eric Martin

On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:37:04 -0800
Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can we see a screenshot of what the Zope managment interface looks like
 in Japanese? (just a personal curiousity)

Sure. It's pretty small, so I'll throw in some french too as a bonus.
Here is the URL:

http://www.zope.ne.jp/users/yemartin/zzLocale/images


Cheers,

-- 
Yves-Eric Martin
Digital Garage Inc.
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[Zope] LoginManager / Membership / ZODB as UserSource

2000-11-24 Thread Danny William Adair

Has somebody been able to setup this combination as for today? I guess this
is an easy one for the LM experienced...
I am looking for a completely ZODB based solution concerning membership, no
rdbms.

tia,
CU+Prost,


 .oO( "Du könntest mal einen bauen" )
Danny


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[Zope] how to get the created table names

2000-11-24 Thread subrahmanyan kalathur

hi,
   
I would like to know the names of the created table in zsql method.
Kindly give me the tag for displaying the table names.( if exists.)

thanks
bye
yours,

K.H.Subrahmanyan

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[Zope] [SybDA]Connection : how does it work ?

2000-11-24 Thread Tony Moutaux

Hello,

I am running Zope 2.1.6 under Linux/RH6.2 on a PC. The Sybase server is
version 11.9.2 on a Solaris station with DNS name "sybstat" on port 2040
(or sybase server name "sybtest") and the database is named "picsou".
When I try filling in the form to add a new Sybase DA connection, the
result is always: Invalid connection string. I have try with this
parameters :
1-database: picsou, password: mypasswd, server: sybstat, user: myuser
2-database: picsou, password: mypasswd, server: sybstat:2040, user:
myuser
But this give the same answer ...

On Linux, I have the libraries, include files and all running client for
Sybase and I can run isql from my PC on the Sybase server on the solaris
station very well using the parameters of the (2-) set. So the
connection to the Sybase server seems to work ...

How could I check what happens inside Zope, or am I mistaken for the
parameters values ?

Thanks for any help.
Tony



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[Zope] images last-modified bug?

2000-11-24 Thread Júlio Dinis Silva

Hi,

I read sometime ago of a bug in zope not sending images header
last-modified, which cause browsers to always get images from
zope not using the browser's cache. I'm seeing some different behaviour in 
my site statistics since I upgrade from 216 to 222, and
I think it could be related with this image problem. I search in HISTORY.txt 
but I cant find nothing saying If the bug really existed and if it was 
fixed.

Any help?

Best Regards,
Júlio Dinis Silva
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RE: [Zope] Newbie Question

2000-11-24 Thread Dany Rioux

I'm probably just being dumb... :)

PASTE--
dtml-var standard_html_header

p
dtml-with News
 dtml-in objectValues
 /dtml-in
/dtml-with
/p

dtml-var standard_html_footer
/PASTE--

This doesn't work. Nothing gets printed.

In the News folder is a DTML method called news999. Should it be a
DTML document instead for this to work?

I tried the three methods you gave me. objectValues, "objectValues()"
and "objectValues('[File]')" and even "objectValues('[news999]')" but
empty everytime.

TIA

Dany

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Andy
 McKay
 Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 7:00 PM
 To: Chris Withers
 Cc: Dany Rioux; Zope Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Newbie Question


 Or even: dtml-in "objectValues(['File'])"
 if this news thing is a file ;-P

  Or even:
 
  dtml-in objectValues
 
  ;-)
 
  Chris
 
  Andy McKay wrote:
  
   dtml-in "objectValues()"
  
   --
   From: "Dany Rioux" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
Hi everyone,
   
Simple newbie question... :)
   
I've made a directory called News into which I will
 put files named
newsXXX. X being a number from 999 to 001.
   
What I want to do is to tell zope to put each file
 into a document.
Now, here is what I figured out.
   
dtml-with News
  dtml-in ??? --- that's where I'm stuck. I don't
 know how to
iterate through a directory ... I want ALL the
 newsXXX displayed.
  /dtml-in
/dtml-with
   
How do I do that?
   
TIA
   
Dany


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Re: [Zope] how to get the created table names

2000-11-24 Thread Jose Soares

There isn't a SQL standard command to show the tables in the database.
Thus evry database has a different command to do such job.
For example:

DBMaker:
  to show TABLES:  select  *  from SYSTABLE
  to show COLUMNS: SELECT  COLUMN_NAME,TYPE_NAME,PRECISION  FROM
SYSCOLUMN  WHERE  TABLE_NAME='table_name'
MySQL:
  to show TABLES:  SHOW TABLES
  to show COLUMNS: DESC table_name
PostreSQL:
  to show TABLES:  select tablename from pg_tables where tablename not
like 'pg_%'
  to show COLUMNS: SELECT a.attname, t.typname, CASE WHEN a.attlen  0
THEN attlen ELSE a.atttypmod END as length FROM pg_class c, pg_attribute
a, pg_type t WHERE c.relname = 'table_name' AND a.attnum  0 AND
a.attrelid = c.oid AND a.atttypid = t.oid


I wrote a couple of ZSQL Methods to emulate a generic ISQL
to query a database using the SQL language
which shows the names of every table in the database
and every column name, type and length of every table.
If you want I can send you it.


José

subrahmanyan kalathur wrote:

 hi,

 I would like to know the names of the created table in zsql method.
 Kindly give me the tag for displaying the table names.( if exists.)

 thanks
 bye
 yours,

 K.H.Subrahmanyan

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Re: [Zope] Newbie Question

2000-11-24 Thread Philipp Dunkel


 I'm probably just being dumb... :)
 
 PASTE--
 dtml-var standard_html_header
 
 p
 dtml-with News
  dtml-in objectValues
 
   dtml-var "_['sequence-item']"

  /dtml-in
 /dtml-with
 /p
 
 dtml-var standard_html_footer

this should work out for you.

cu

Philipp


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[Zope] seeking zope success stories in higher education

2000-11-24 Thread Jerome Alet

Hi,

We are planning to choose a platform to build a portal for distance
learning, with which we want to Build and Serve online multimedia courses,
online exams, calendars, keep track of students work and results, forums,
etc... 

I've got a list of criterias the platform must fill to be chosen, and at
first glance Zope fills at least 90% of them, and probably more if I look
more closely at the Zope products already available.

This is a big project, and some people
have already done some work using WebCT. I've read in the zope-edu wicki
the comment on WebCT, I already know that many people (at least 35) are
interested byt his subject because they are referenced as contributors in
this wicki, so I naively conclude I'm right in thinking that Zope is the
good choice for us.

So I have to write a document explaining the pros (and cons) of choosing
Zope, and I want some references of Zope uses in higher education if
possible.

Please could someone send me any testimonial on the (successful or not,
and why) use of Zope in higher education, the products which might help us
(we will at least need SquishDot, the LDAP adapter, the Oracle adapter,
the KnowledgeBase product, etc...). I'm also interested in testimonials
about the use of WebCT or similar products.

Thank you very much.

PS: As always this is urgent :-(

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Re: [Zope] Newbie Question

2000-11-24 Thread Jim Washington

Dany:


These should work:


dtml-in objectIds

dtml-var "_['sequence-item']"

/dtml-in

-or-


dtml-in objectValues

dtml-var sequence-item
 
/dtml-in

-or-

dtml-in objectValues

dtml-var some_attribute_of_the_sequence-item
 
/dtml-in


--Jim Washington

Dany Rioux wrote:
 
 I'm probably just being dumb... :)
 
 PASTE--
 dtml-var standard_html_header
 
 p
 dtml-with News
  dtml-in objectValues
  /dtml-in
 /dtml-with
 /p
 
 dtml-var standard_html_footer
 /PASTE--
 
 This doesn't work. Nothing gets printed.
 
 In the News folder is a DTML method called news999. Should it be a
 DTML document instead for this to work?
 
 I tried the three methods you gave me. objectValues, "objectValues()"
 and "objectValues('[File]')" and even "objectValues('[news999]')" but
 empty everytime.


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[Zope] How to checkout PythonMethod from CVS

2000-11-24 Thread Milos Prudek

How can I checkout PythonMethod from cvs? I tried to modify the "Zope2"
in the following command:

cvs -z7 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs-repository checkout
Zope2

(Zope2/PythonMethod, Zope/PythonMethod, Zope/DC/PythonMethod,
Zope/Products/PythonMethod and countless other combinations)

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Re: [Zope] images last-modified bug?

2000-11-24 Thread Stefan H. Holek

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Júlio Dinis Silva wrote:

 I read sometime ago of a bug in zope not sending images header
 last-modified, which cause browsers to always get images from
 zope not using the browser's cache. I'm seeing some different behaviour in 
 my site statistics since I upgrade from 216 to 222, and
 I think it could be related with this image problem. I search in HISTORY.txt 
 but I cant find nothing saying If the bug really existed and if it was 
 fixed.

http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1737/view

its fixed for 2.2.4, sadly no patch for 2.2.2 afaik :(

Stefan


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Re: [Zope] seeking zope success stories in higher education

2000-11-24 Thread Stefan H. Holek


might be a start:
http://www.zope.org/Members/Kemalus/make_zope_decision

Stefan


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RE: [Zope] Newbie Question Fixed but continuing.

2000-11-24 Thread Dany Rioux

Thanks Philipp and Jim,

It worked! But... (there's always a but! :) I thought I was clever
when I thought about naming my news files news999, news998 etc,
thinking it would parse the directory and print the news sorted by
their names. So news998 would be printed before news999 etc. It
doesn't.

deleted questions because it's fixed :) /deleted

Now this too is fixed. I just discovered the "sort=" thingie.

One thing would sure be helpful, a Guide explaining all the subtags in
a tag. Like what can be used in a dtml-var or dtml-in and params
for each subtag. Because as someone mentioned, searching on zope is a
real hassle. It takes a long time, and the search is ORed. So lots of
unrelated docs are counted as a hit.

Thanks a lot to all the helpers.

Dany

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 Subject: Re: [Zope] Newbie Question



  I'm probably just being dumb... :)
 
  PASTE--
  dtml-var standard_html_header
 
  p
  dtml-with News
   dtml-in objectValues

dtml-var "_['sequence-item']"

   /dtml-in
  /dtml-with
  /p
 
  dtml-var standard_html_footer

 this should work out for you.

 cu

 Philipp


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Re: [Zope] DC request re: Objection to Python Script Name

2000-11-24 Thread Michel Pelletier

Ron Bickers wrote:
 
 On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Chris Withers wrote:
 
  To Hamish, the other Chris, and anyone else who's going to jump in on
  this.
 
  To be quite blunt, this has now been _decided_ as I understand it. So
  it's pointless to keep arguing and suggesting new and different names.
  We now _have_ a president and it's name is 'Python Script' ;-)
 
 With all due respect to everyone, this should not be considered a closed
 issue.

It is.  This is the kind of thing where it is impossible to make 100% of
the participants happy, we regret that not everyone is going to go for
it, but we *must* move forward.  This issue is holding up Python
Scripts, which is holding up the book, which is intimately tied to Zope
2.3, all of which is intimiately tied to my paycheck.  My paycheck
doesn't really have anything to do with it but I just thought I'd
mention it. ;)

  My understanding is that there would be a vote for a name.

We could not afford any further delay, and the last poll was a
disaster.  The author of Python Scripts (the majority of which were
written before he worked at DC) rightly asserted his position and picked
a name.  I'm sure it wasn't easy for him, and there was lots of internal
conflict; many in the company not liking 'Script' for many of the same
reasons you do.

 Skipping that in the name of getting things moving after it was offered by
 Digital Creations seems to go against the open source nature of the
 product. 

That is tying a strong semantic relation between "open source" and
"democratic".  In my mind, the open source nature is that anyone can
examine, author and contribute code to a project for peer review and
inclusion.  Evan did just that, he wrote most of what used to be called
Python Methods before he worked at DC and contributed it freely under
the open source mantra.  I don't think voting has much to do with open
source, it has worked for us (with the documentation poll) and failed
for us (with what used to be called Python Methods) but we'll probably
try it again.

 Not to mention that the name chosen does nothing to distinguish
 it from an everyday Python "script" outside of Zope, which is what sparked
 the name change to begin with.  "It's not really a Python method, so let's
 change the name."  Well, it's not just a "Python Script" either.  It's
 Zopified.

Just to clarify, in the Python language, there is no such thing as a
"script".  What you are thinking of as a "script" is really some hunk of
data (probably a file) containing python code that contains either some
platform specific hook to invoke the interpreter, or that you pass to
the interpreter on the platform specific "command line".  Neither of
these things have anything to do with the language called Python.  Once
inside the interpreter, you are officially working with "modules". 
"Modules" and "methods" are real, defined, un-ambiguous Python objects
defined in the Language Reference
(http://www.python.org/doc/current/ref/ref.html).  Obviously, naming a
Zope object "module" or "method" would be a bad idea, and therein lies
the problem.  

"Script" is just un-bound, non-python specific, vague lingo that
everybody uses to describe a chunk of code in just about any language,
on any platform.  In this case, the platform is Zope, the chunk of code
is written in Python, and the "command line" is your web browser.

I can sympathize with your feelings, but one of the reasons I don't like
"Method" is because it's is OO specific; it is a very technical term. 
"ZMethod" is no better, even if it doesn't have the problem of clashing
names with a python object (and barely not clashing at that!).  We want
to make using Zope easier.  For the target audience we want to approach,
if 1000 people pull down the add list and see "Python ZMethod" many more
of them are going to scratch their heads about what the hell a ZMethod
is than if they see "Python Script".  "Oh, a python script?  Cool!  I've
written some CGI scripts!  Now I can go and read chapter six of the book
'Scripting Zope' and find out how to 'script the web'!"

-Michel

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[Zope] how to display contents of a folder?

2000-11-24 Thread Andrei Belitski

Hi
I would like to display contnent of a zope folder on my HTML-page
preferrebly only the DTML Documents of a particular folder, how can I do
it?
Thank you very much in advance
Andrei

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Re: [Zope] Objection to Python Script Name

2000-11-24 Thread Michel Pelletier

Jason Cunliffe wrote:
 
 2. Fixes the OReilly book in some sensible manner - add highly legible note
 on Page 1, update the index in useful manner to catch the differences.

Oh I'll be doing that one, no worries there.
 
 3. Will explain to me 100% clearly what difference there is now between a
 regular Python script and a 'Python Script' in Zope?

There is no such thing as a "script" in the Python language (see the
index of the "language reference" on the python site, you will find
"method" and "module" but not "script").  "Script" is just a word that
is informally and commonly used to refer to a chunk of code written in
some language on some platform that is invoked by some action, possibly
from a "command line" or by double clicking on an icon.  In the case of
a Zope Python Script, the code is written in python, the platform is
Zope, and the "command line" is your web browser.

-Michel

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Re: [Zope] How to checkout PythonMethod from CVS

2000-11-24 Thread Jochen Knuth

Hi,

Milos Prudek wrote:
 
 How can I checkout PythonMethod from cvs? I tried to modify the "Zope2"
 in the following command:
 
 cvs -z7 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs-repository checkout
 Zope2
 
 (Zope2/PythonMethod, Zope/PythonMethod, Zope/DC/PythonMethod,
 Zope/Products/PythonMethod and countless other combinations)
 

Products/DC/PythonMethod

at the moment, i don't know if the new name will result in a new
directory.

Ciao,
Jochen

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RE: [Zope] how to display contents of a folder?

2000-11-24 Thread Menard . Jean-Francois

Hi Andrei,

  You can try:

dtml-with MyFolder
dtml-in "objectValues('DTML Document')"
  stuff
/dtml-in
/dtml-with

Good luck!
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Hi
I would like to display contnent of a zope folder on my HTML-page
preferrebly only the DTML Documents of a particular folder, how can I do
it?
Thank you very much in advance
Andrei

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[Zope] Problem with 2.2.4b1

2000-11-24 Thread Menard . Jean-Francois

I installed 2.2.4b1 over 2.2.3, and everything seems to work fine, but, when
I IE5.5 to manage my sites, I loose some icons and graphics (not all!).
But, if I clear my cache, The icons reappears, but only for a while!  Am I
the only only experiencing this problem?

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RE: [Zope] how to display contents of a folder?

2000-11-24 Thread Max Møller Rasmussen

dtml-in "folderName.objectValues('DTML Document')"
dtml-var title_or_idbr
/dtml-in

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 3:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Zope] how to display contents of a folder?


Hi
I would like to display contnent of a zope folder on my HTML-page
preferrebly only the DTML Documents of a particular folder, how can I do
it?
Thank you very much in advance
Andrei

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[Zope] Best wishes

2000-11-24 Thread Federico Di Gregorio

Dear PoPy and ZPoPyDA users,

 last days, a lots of stuff happened here at MIXAD LIVE. the most
important to you is that source code for the programs is not in our cvs server
anymore and the home page was moved to the official Zope site[1]. To make it
short, thierry and eric decided to not work for MIXAD LIVE anymore.

   so, what will change for you PoPy users? hopefully nothing... we'll
continue to submit patches (we are using the product a lot) and to host the
mailing list (unless they wants to move it away.) i will personally keep on
packaging PoPy and ZPoPyDA for the Debian distribution. we also want to
transfer to thierry the copyright of all the work done by us on the programs,
to give him total freedom. i think PoPy and ZPoPyDA will grow better and
better in the future.

what can i say more? maybe "good luck" to them and "keep on hacking"...

federico

[1] http://www.zope.org/Members/tm/ZPoPyDA

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[Zope] ZPyGreSQLDA on Tru64?

2000-11-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer


Zope tells me that my ZPyGreSQLDA (PostgreSQL interface) is broken and yields 
the following trace:

ZPyGreSQLDA Import Traceback

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/local/src/Zope-2.2.2-src/lib/python/OFS/Application.py", line 397, in 
import_products
product=__import__(pname, global_dict, global_dict, silly)
  File "/local/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPyGreSQLDA/__init__.py", line 89, in ?
import sys, os, Globals, DA
  File "/local/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPyGreSQLDA/DA.py", line 91, in ?
from db import DB
  File "/local/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPyGreSQLDA/db.py", line 89, in ?
import _pg, regex, sys, types
ImportError: dlopen: cannot load /usr/local/lib/python2.0/site-packages/_pgmodu
le.so

but :

wallis:/local/zope ls -l /usr/local/lib/python2.0/site-packages/_pgmodule.so
-r-xr-xr-x   1 root system 65536 Nov 24 15:50 
/usr/local/lib/python2.0/site-packages/_pgmodule.so

Zope version: Zope 2.2.2 (source release, python 1.5.2, linux2) 
Python version: 2.0c1 (#2, Nov 24 2000, 11:08:10) [C] 
System Platform: osf1V4 
Process ID: 9128 (5381388672) 
Running for: 1 min 52 sec 



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Re: [Zope] Still have error importing DemoPortal.zexp with PTK 0.9.2

2000-11-24 Thread Tres Seaver

"Andrews, Martin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am trying to install PPT 0.9.2. After installing
 PythonMethod from CVS I am still getting an error when trying
 to import DemoPortal.zexp. Any clues?
 
   Zope Error

   Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.

   Error Type: SystemError
   Error Value: Failed to import class AnObject from module
   Products.PythonMethod.PythonMethod

First, let me apologize -- I introduced the dependency on Evan's
PythonMethod product (which is excellent!) without really intending
to do so, and without documenting it.

Second, the product you need is not the unreleased CVS version (which
will be part of Zope 2.3, and which will be called "Python Scripts"),
but the released, 0.17 version, which can be found at:

 http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/PythonMethod

Third, this PTK has its own mailing list, '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
You are *much* more likely to get helpful responses there for
PTK-related questions than here (I often don't have time to read
the main list, for instance).  The PTK homepage has details on
the list (signing up, archives, etc.):

 http://www.zope.org/Products/PTK

Tres.
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Re: [Zope] Newbie Question Fixed but continuing.

2000-11-24 Thread Michel Pelletier

Dany Rioux wrote:
 
 Thanks Philipp and Jim,
 
 It worked! But... (there's always a but! :) I thought I was clever
 when I thought about naming my news files news999, news998 etc,
 thinking it would parse the directory and print the news sorted by
 their names. So news998 would be printed before news999 etc. It
 doesn't.
 
 deleted questions because it's fixed :) /deleted
 
 Now this too is fixed. I just discovered the "sort=" thingie.
 
 One thing would sure be helpful, a Guide explaining all the subtags in
 a tag. Like what can be used in a dtml-var or dtml-in and params
 for each subtag. 

http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/ZB/AppendixA.html

This DTML reference is also included in the Online Help System with Zope
2.4b1 and beyond.

-Michel

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Re: [Zope] Problem with 2.2.4b1

2000-11-24 Thread Chris Gray

Yes it happens for me too and it comes and goes as you describe.  Also
I've noticed it in Mozilla as well as IE5.5.

Chris


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 But, if I clear my cache, The icons reappears, but only for a while!  Am I
 the only only experiencing this problem?
 
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RE: [Zope] Newbie Question Fixed but continuing.

2000-11-24 Thread Dany Rioux

Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for.

I know that the DTML reference is there on Zope.org but it's a hassle
and well, I'll keep my other opinions for myself.

Anyway. Here's an idea. Shouldn't there be a list FAQ? If there is one
it should be sent when subscribing. Or it could be requested. I'm
pretty sure most of the questions I sent have already been sent 
answered more than once already and I know some that most other FAQs
use one. So, why not zope general list? It *is* possible, though
unlikely, that there is a list FAQ mentionned in the "Welcome to Zope
mailing list" email but if there is, my apologies.

Thanks.

Dany

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michel Pelletier
 Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 12:17 PM
 To: Dany Rioux
 Cc: Zope Mailing List
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Newbie Question Fixed but continuing.


 Dany Rioux wrote:
 
  Thanks Philipp and Jim,
 
  It worked! But... (there's always a but! :) I thought I was clever
  when I thought about naming my news files news999, news998 etc,
  thinking it would parse the directory and print the news sorted by
  their names. So news998 would be printed before news999 etc. It
  doesn't.
 
  deleted questions because it's fixed :) /deleted
 
  Now this too is fixed. I just discovered the "sort=" thingie.
 
  One thing would sure be helpful, a Guide explaining all
 the subtags in
  a tag. Like what can be used in a dtml-var or dtml-in
 and params
  for each subtag.

 http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/ZB/AppendixA.html

 This DTML reference is also included in the Online Help
 System with Zope
 2.4b1 and beyond.


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Re: [Zope] Best wishes

2000-11-24 Thread Joachim Schmitz

I made a (small) patch to PoPy so that it supports the numeric type. Here it
is:

$ diff PoPymodule.c.org PoPymodule.c
393a394,396
 /* 20.11.2000 by Perry */
 case PG_NUMERIC:
 /* 20.11.2000 by Perry */

$ diff PoPymodule.h.org PoPymodule.h
78a79,81
 /* 20.11.2000 by Perry */
 #define PG_NUMERIC NUMERICOID
 /* 20.11.2000 by Perry */

where can we communicate these changes ? 

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Federico Di Gregorio wrote:

 Dear PoPy and ZPoPyDA users,
 
  last days, a lots of stuff happened here at MIXAD LIVE. the most
 important to you is that source code for the programs is not in our cvs server
 anymore and the home page was moved to the official Zope site[1]. To make it
 short, thierry and eric decided to not work for MIXAD LIVE anymore.
 
so, what will change for you PoPy users? hopefully nothing... we'll
 continue to submit patches (we are using the product a lot) and to host the
 mailing list (unless they wants to move it away.) i will personally keep on
 packaging PoPy and ZPoPyDA for the Debian distribution. we also want to
 transfer to thierry the copyright of all the work done by us on the programs,
 to give him total freedom. i think PoPy and ZPoPyDA will grow better and
 better in the future.
 
 what can i say more? maybe "good luck" to them and "keep on hacking"...



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Joachim Schmitz  

  
AixtraWare, Ing. Büro für Internetanwendungen
Hüsgenstr. 33a, D-52457 Aldenhoven  
Telefon: +49-2464-8851, FAX: +49-2464-905163


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[Zope] Special behavior or bug?

2000-11-24 Thread Dany Rioux

Hi, yeah, I know, it's me again :)

I've got this snippet in the standard_html_header hoping it would
display the title of the calling document but instead displays the
index_html's title... Is this the normal behavior? I know yesterday it
was working... I tried refreshing the page but it's a no go. It simply
refuses to put the correct title. It doesn't even put the header's
file title... (something I guessed it would do the first time I tried
it)

Any opinion on that?

---PASTE---
  tr
td align="right"H2dtml-var title/H2/td
  /tr
---/PASTE---

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Re: [Zope] Special behavior or bug?

2000-11-24 Thread Chris Gray

Make sure that the standard_html_header is a DTML Method and not a DTML
Document.  Make sure that the calling document is DTML Document and not a
DTML Method and it should work.  That way the header acquires the title of
the calling document.  If the calling document is a DTML Method, it
acquires it's title from somewhere else according to the Zope rules of
acquisition (as opposed to the Ferengi rules of acquisition ;).

Cheers,
Chris


On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Dany Rioux wrote:

 Hi, yeah, I know, it's me again :)
 
 I've got this snippet in the standard_html_header hoping it would
 display the title of the calling document but instead displays the
 index_html's title... Is this the normal behavior? I know yesterday it
 was working... I tried refreshing the page but it's a no go. It simply
 refuses to put the correct title. It doesn't even put the header's
 file title... (something I guessed it would do the first time I tried
 it)
 
 Any opinion on that?
 
 ---PASTE---
   tr
 td align="right"H2dtml-var title/H2/td
   /tr
 ---/PASTE---
 
 ---.oo0O--O0oo.
 
 Dany RiouxUnderSoft Inc.
 Business
 www.dating-reviews.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Personal
 www.drioux.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ---.o00O---O00o.---
 


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Re: [Zope] how to get the created table names

2000-11-24 Thread Steve Spicklemire


Hmm.. I think there is a method of a ZSQL result object called 'names'.. 

Here is a snippet from some working code:

dtml-let specificTypes="getTypes(ttid=type, name='', tttype='')"
  theNames="specificTypes.names()"

where 'getTypes' is a ZSQL Method and theNames is the list of column names returned
from the query...

-steve

 "Jose" == Jose Soares [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jose There isn't a SQL standard command to show the tables in the
Jose database.  Thus evry database has a different command to do
Jose such job.  For example:

Jose DBMaker: to show TABLES: select * from SYSTABLE to show
Jose COLUMNS: SELECT COLUMN_NAME,TYPE_NAME,PRECISION FROM
Jose SYSCOLUMN WHERE TABLE_NAME='table_name' MySQL: to show
Jose TABLES: SHOW TABLES to show COLUMNS: DESC table_name
Jose PostreSQL: to show TABLES: select tablename from pg_tables
Jose where tablename not like 'pg_%' to show COLUMNS: SELECT
Jose a.attname, t.typname, CASE WHEN a.attlen  0 THEN attlen
Jose ELSE a.atttypmod END as length FROM pg_class c, pg_attribute
Jose a, pg_type t WHERE c.relname = 'table_name' AND a.attnum 
Jose 0 AND a.attrelid = c.oid AND a.atttypid = t.oid


Jose I wrote a couple of ZSQL Methods to emulate a generic ISQL
Jose to query a database using the SQL language which shows the
Jose names of every table in the database and every column name,
Jose type and length of every table.  If you want I can send you
Jose it.


Jose José

Jose subrahmanyan kalathur wrote:

 hi,
 
 I would like to know the names of the created table in zsql
 method.  Kindly give me the tag for displaying the table
 names.( if exists.)
 
 thanks bye yours,
 
 K.H.Subrahmanyan
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope with Microsoft Access

2000-11-24 Thread Mike Kelland

Hrm... I've tried what you said, but  it still fails to work...

Is there a Zope guru out there who is willing to look over this code in it
entirety (ie the DTML and the ZSQL Method) and work with me directly to try
to get this working?

Thanks,
Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Chris Gray" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Mike Kelland" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope with Microsoft Access


 Here's a fix.  Change the line:

 dtml-call UpdateHours(REQUEST)

 to:

 dtml-call "UpdateHours(myval=_['myval'], mykey=_['mykey'],
 sequence_item=_['sequence-item'])"

 and change the name of the parameter in your ZSQL method from
 sequence-item to sequence_item and change the dtml-var tag in the method
 to dtml-var sequence_item.

 Cheers,
 Chris

 On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Mike Kelland wrote:

  What does dtml-var "0/0" actually do?  Looks like all it would do is
  divide by zero which *has* to be some kind of error.  The problem, I
think,
  lies mainly in the arguments being passed to UpdateHours.  I have done a
  whole slew of tests to show that my if statement works perfectly (the
  _.string.find thing seems to return false if it finds the specified sub
  string which is odd, but works) and I've actually outputted the correct
SQL
  in the DTML (ie displayed it within the page) and I've copied and pasted
  that SQL directly into a ZSQL Method and ran it on my database and that
  works fine.  However it seems to do absolutly nothing when I actually
  attempt to run everything together and call UpdateHours from the DTML
  document.  I've played a little with namespace as well, but as I said,
I'm
  new to all this so there may be an error there.
 
  Thanks for everyone's insight so far, it's really helpful, and please
keep
  those suggestions coming! : )
 
  Mike Kelland
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Mike Kelland" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 8:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope with Microsoft Access
 
 
   You may not be entering UpdateHours.
  
   Try dtml-var "0/0" just before the call to UpdateHours.
   Or some other obvious way to know if your entering it.
  
   Here's how I coded the same kind of thing.
   Although I'm reading the Zope book right now to see how I should have
done
   it.
   The book is good and I might just learn a better solution than 0/0 :)
  
   --- Part of addContact
   form action="insertNewContactForm" method="get"
   table
   trtdName:/tdtdinput type="text" name="name" /td/tr
   trtdTitle:/tdtdinput type="text" name="title"/td/tr
   trtdPhone:/tdtdinput type="text" name="phone"/td/tr
   /table
   tabletr
   tdinput type="submit" name="cmd" value="Insert"/td
   tdinput type="submit" name="cmd" value="Update"/td
   tdinput type="submit" name="cmd" value="Delete"/td
   tdinput type="submit" name="cmd" value="Clear"/td
   /tr/table
   /form
  
   ---insertNewContactForm
   dtml-if expr="_.len(name)  0"
dtml-if expr="cmd=='Insert'"
  dtml-var insertNewContact
dtml-elif expr="cmd=='Delete'"
 dtml-call deleteWhere
dtml-elif expr="cmd=='Update'"
 dtml-call updateWhere
dtml-elif expr="cmd=='Clear'"
/dtml-if
   /dtml-if
   dtml-var "RESPONSE.redirect('addContact')"
  
   --Darrell
  
  
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RE: [Zope] Special behavior or bug?

2000-11-24 Thread Dany Rioux

Chris, I can't change all the other DTML Methods to DTML Docs... I
would have to have only 1 DTML Method which is unthinkable.

Now, I'm sure there's a way to force what I want to do. Either with a
REQUEST.set('[calling_document.Title]') or something real :)

Is there such a function? (I'm sorry, I'm still confused on how to
call things in Zope.)

As for the Ferengi rules of acquisition, at least, I'm pretty sure I'd
get some profits :) haha But, unfortunately, my ears are not as
erogenous as the Ferengies.  :)

Dany

 Make sure that the standard_html_header is a DTML Method
 and not a DTML
 Document.  Make sure that the calling document is DTML
 Document and not a
 DTML Method and it should work.  That way the header
 acquires the title of
 the calling document.  If the calling document is a DTML Method, it
 acquires it's title from somewhere else according to the
 Zope rules of
 acquisition (as opposed to the Ferengi rules of acquisition ;).

 Cheers,
 Chris


 On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Dany Rioux wrote:

  Hi, yeah, I know, it's me again :)
 
  I've got this snippet in the standard_html_header hoping it would
  display the title of the calling document but instead displays the
  index_html's title... Is this the normal behavior? I know
 yesterday it
  was working... I tried refreshing the page but it's a no
 go. It simply
  refuses to put the correct title. It doesn't even put the header's
  file title... (something I guessed it would do the first
 time I tried
  it)
 
  Any opinion on that?
 
  ---PASTE---
tr
  td align="right"H2dtml-var title/H2/td
/tr
  ---/PASTE---


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Re: [Zope] Problem with 2.2.4b1

2000-11-24 Thread Alastair Burt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I installed 2.2.4b1 over 2.2.3, and everything seems to work fine, but, when
 I IE5.5 to manage my sites, I loose some icons and graphics (not all!).
 But, if I clear my cache, The icons reappears, but only for a while!  Am I
 the only only experiencing this problem?

I found this problem and sent the following patch to the Collector.  

*** ImageFile.py2000/11/24 05:16:42 1.1
--- ImageFile.py2000/11/24 05:27:59
***
*** 137,146 
  try:mod_since=long(DateTime(header).timeTime())
  except: mod_since=None
  if mod_since is not None:
! if self._p_mtime:
! last_mod = long(self._p_mtime)
! else:
! last_mod = long(0)
  if last_mod  0 and last_mod = mod_since:
  RESPONSE.setStatus(304)
  return ''
--- 137,143 
  try:mod_since=long(DateTime(header).timeTime())
  except: mod_since=None
  if mod_since is not None:
! last_mod = long(getattr(self, '_p_mtime', 0))
  if last_mod  0 and last_mod = mod_since:
  RESPONSE.setStatus(304)
  return ''


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Re: [Zope] DC request re: Objection to Python Script Name

2000-11-24 Thread Hamish Lawson

When I 'jumped in' (nod to Chris Withers :-)) with my promotion of
ZMethod, I'd missed Evan's announcement that he'd decided on Python
Script - I thought it was just another suggestion and we were still in
the middle of campaigning for the upcoming second poll! I'm actually
not that averse to Script; it was ZMethod's OO associations that I
liked - but if Michel thinks that such an association is actually not
appropriate in this situation, then I'll bow to his greater Zope
understanding. I agree with him that the new name needs to make it into
the book, and Script is a reasonable choice. Is it intended to rename
DTML Method, ZSQL Method, etc to be DTML Script, SQL Script, etc? For
the sake of consistency I'm hoping so, and I think it's important that
these revisions also make it into the book.

Onwards!

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Re: [Zope] Zope with Microsoft Access

2000-11-24 Thread Rik Hoekstra


 Hi, this is my first posting to the list, and about my 4th day working
with
 Zope.  I have a bit of a problem.  All my code so far is working well.
Just
 the following section is defying my attempts to make it run.  What it does
 is to update a field in the database (to allow employees to quickly update
 their hours in the hours tracking thing I'm creating)  it's complex since
 all the employees hours will be listed on one page and will be instantly
 updatable (with a select box that allows the choice of +/- (name is
 modifydtml-var hoursID and value is either + hours already input or -
 hours already input) and a text field for entering hours to add or
 subtract (name is mod_hoursdtml-var hoursID)).

 The code (in the DTML document) is:

 dtml-in "REQUEST.form.items()"
 dtml-if "_.string.find(_['sequence-key'], 'mod_hours')"
 dtml-else
 dtml-let mykey=sequence-key myval=sequence-item
 dtml-in "REQUEST.form.items()"
 dtml-if "_.string.find(_['sequence-key'], 'modify')"
 dtml-else
 dtml-if "_['sequence-key'][6:9] == mykey[9:12]"
 dtml-if myval
 dtml-call UpdateHours(REQUEST)
 /dtml-if
 /dtml-if

 /dtml-if
 /dtml-in

 /dtml-let
 /dtml-if
 /dtml-in

 and the SQL method UpdateHours is:

 update emp_hours set hours =
 dtml-var expr="_['sequence-item']"
 dtml-var expr="_['myval']"
 where
 hoursID = dtml-var expr="_['mykey'][9:12]";

 with arguments: sequence-item, myval, mykey

 I've tried everything I can think of but it not only refuses to do
anything,
 it also refuses to raise an error.

 If anyone can help out I'd be very grateful.


This seems to be more of a DTML problem than an Access problem. It is hard
to follow anyway...
A few questions: have you tried using something like changing the form names
to using the name.item:records syntax. something like

input type="checkbox" name="modify.dtml-var hoursID:records" value="+"
input type="checkbox" name="modify.dtml-var hoursID:records" value="-"
input type="hidden" name="modify.inputhrs:records" value="hours already
input"
and a text field for entering hours to add or
input type= "text"  name="modify.mod_hours:records" value="dtml-var
hoursID"

this will give your dtml method a dictionary like structure called modify
you can loop over.

Starting from there will save you a whole lot of hacking. Also I'm not at
all sure that you can use the [sequenct-key] as arguments for your SQL
Method.

On the records and types in forms see:
http://www.zope.org/Members/Zen/howto/FormVariableTypes

hth

Rik


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[Zope] ZCatalog and Zsearch Interface.

2000-11-24 Thread Srinath Mantripragada

Hi,


I need to know how does the search works.


The index of Catalog is made based in a pythonMethod that returns an
concatenated text with the contents of a lot of fields

I made an external method in python that do the search and sort the entire
result.
It´s an priorized sort, that i need to priorize the keywords, so the results
that have the searched text in the keywords list will be showed first.

I made the sort by dividing the resuilts in two secondaries lists, one that
contains the results with searched text in the keywords and the another that
does not.
finaly I return the two lists concatenated.


I need to know if there is a better way to do the priorized search in many
fields and if the solution that I made will "destroy"  the server´s memory
and/or cpu.

If possible, i want to know how the ZsearchInterface works  internally..


Thanks..

Srinath M.






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Re: [Zope] Zope with Microsoft Access

2000-11-24 Thread Mike Kelland

I actually have this up and running now (as of about 5 minutes ago).  It's a
hack but it works great so I'm not going to mess with it.

Thanks a lot to everyone who gave me pointers, most especially Chris Gray
whose solution fixed it in the end.

Now I need a way of implementing Apache style authentication.  Is there an
easy way to do this?

Thanks!
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: "Rik Hoekstra" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Mike Kelland" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope with Microsoft Access



  Hi, this is my first posting to the list, and about my 4th day working
 with
  Zope.  I have a bit of a problem.  All my code so far is working well.
 Just
  the following section is defying my attempts to make it run.  What it
does
  is to update a field in the database (to allow employees to quickly
update
  their hours in the hours tracking thing I'm creating)  it's complex
since
  all the employees hours will be listed on one page and will be instantly
  updatable (with a select box that allows the choice of +/- (name is
  modifydtml-var hoursID and value is either + hours already input
or -
  hours already input) and a text field for entering hours to add or
  subtract (name is mod_hoursdtml-var hoursID)).
 
  The code (in the DTML document) is:
 
  dtml-in "REQUEST.form.items()"
  dtml-if "_.string.find(_['sequence-key'], 'mod_hours')"
  dtml-else
  dtml-let mykey=sequence-key myval=sequence-item
  dtml-in "REQUEST.form.items()"
  dtml-if "_.string.find(_['sequence-key'], 'modify')"
  dtml-else
  dtml-if "_['sequence-key'][6:9] == mykey[9:12]"
  dtml-if myval
  dtml-call UpdateHours(REQUEST)
  /dtml-if
  /dtml-if
 
  /dtml-if
  /dtml-in
 
  /dtml-let
  /dtml-if
  /dtml-in
 
  and the SQL method UpdateHours is:
 
  update emp_hours set hours =
  dtml-var expr="_['sequence-item']"
  dtml-var expr="_['myval']"
  where
  hoursID = dtml-var expr="_['mykey'][9:12]";
 
  with arguments: sequence-item, myval, mykey
 
  I've tried everything I can think of but it not only refuses to do
 anything,
  it also refuses to raise an error.
 
  If anyone can help out I'd be very grateful.
 

 This seems to be more of a DTML problem than an Access problem. It is hard
 to follow anyway...
 A few questions: have you tried using something like changing the form
names
 to using the name.item:records syntax. something like

 input type="checkbox" name="modify.dtml-var hoursID:records" value="+"
 input type="checkbox" name="modify.dtml-var hoursID:records" value="-"
 input type="hidden" name="modify.inputhrs:records" value="hours already
 input"
 and a text field for entering hours to add or
 input type= "text"  name="modify.mod_hours:records" value="dtml-var
 hoursID"

 this will give your dtml method a dictionary like structure called modify
 you can loop over.

 Starting from there will save you a whole lot of hacking. Also I'm not at
 all sure that you can use the [sequenct-key] as arguments for your SQL
 Method.

 On the records and types in forms see:
 http://www.zope.org/Members/Zen/howto/FormVariableTypes

 hth

 Rik




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[Zope] Re: [Support] [SybDA]Connection : how does it work ?

2000-11-24 Thread Chris McDonough

Tony,

I'd suggest sending this question to the main Zope list
([EMAIL PROTECTED])... the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address is
used for paid support customers.  You'll also likely get a
better response from the list as well.

Thanks!

- Chris

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:39:13 +0100
 Tony Moutaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am running Zope 2.1.6 under Linux/RH6.2 on a PC. The
 Sybase server is
 version 11.9.2 on a Solaris station with DNS name
 "sybstat" on port 2040
 (or sybase server name "sybtest") and the database is
 named "picsou".
 When I try filling in the form to add a new Sybase DA
 connection, the
 result is always: Invalid connection string. I have try
 with this
 parameters :
 1-database: picsou, password: mypasswd, server: sybstat,
 user: myuser
 2-database: picsou, password: mypasswd, server:
 sybstat:2040, user:
 myuser
 But this give the same answer ...
 
 On Linux, I have the libraries, include files and all
 running client for
 Sybase and I can run isql from my PC on the Sybase server
 on the solaris
 station very well using the parameters of the (2-) set.
 So the
 connection to the Sybase server seems to work ...
 
 How could I check what happens inside Zope, or am I
 mistaken for the
 parameters values ?
 
 Thanks for any help.
 Tony
 
 


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[Zope] view DTML source

2000-11-24 Thread Anders Eriksson

Hello zopistas,

On the zope.org there is a 'method' called view_source, which lets you
see the DTML source of a page. I 'borrowed' this code, by using
view_source on itself and got this:

!--#var standard_html_header--
pre
!--#var "document_src(REQUEST,RESPONSE)" html_quote--
/pre
!--#call "RESPONSE.setHeader('content-type','text/html')"--
!--#var standard_html_footer--

I then created a DMTL-document called 'view_source' with this content.
But when I run, using http://swescout.myip.org/index_html/view_source
it I get this traceback:

Traceback (innermost last):
  File D:\SweScout\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 222, in publish_module
  File D:\SweScout\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 187, in publish
  File D:\SweScout\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook
(Object: index_html)
  File D:\SweScout\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 171, in publish
  File D:\SweScout\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
(Object: view_source)
  File D:\SweScout\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 112, in call_object
(Object: view_source)
  File D:\SweScout\lib\python\OFS\DTMLDocument.py, line 177, in __call__
(Object: view_source)
  File D:\SweScout\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_String.py, line 528, in __call__
(Object: view_source)
  File D:\SweScout\lib\python\OFS\DTMLMethod.py, line 168, in __call__
(Object: standard_html_header)
  File D:\SweScout\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_String.py, line 528, in __call__
(Object: standard_html_header)
AttributeError: __call__

This is my data:
Zope version: Zope 2.2.2 (binary release, python 1.5.2, win32-x86)
Python version: 1.5.2 (#0, Jul 30 1999, 09:52:18) [MSC 32 bit (Intel)] 
System Platform: win32 


Anyone that know why I get this error and how I fix it?


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[Zope] How to retain applications and data during RPM update?

2000-11-24 Thread Antti Akonniemi

Is the method same as described in ZOPE-INSTALL-HOWTO?

Thanks.



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Re: [Zope] seeking zope success stories in higher education

2000-11-24 Thread Chalu Kim

There is an attempt to on-line class room.

www.openclassroom.org

This may have been initiated by DC folks.

Jerome Alet wrote:

 Hi,

 We are planning to choose a platform to build a portal for distance
 learning, with which we want to Build and Serve online multimedia courses,
 online exams, calendars, keep track of students work and results, forums,
 etc...

 I've got a list of criterias the platform must fill to be chosen, and at
 first glance Zope fills at least 90% of them, and probably more if I look
 more closely at the Zope products already available.

 This is a big project, and some people
 have already done some work using WebCT. I've read in the zope-edu wicki
 the comment on WebCT, I already know that many people (at least 35) are
 interested byt his subject because they are referenced as contributors in
 this wicki, so I naively conclude I'm right in thinking that Zope is the
 good choice for us.

 So I have to write a document explaining the pros (and cons) of choosing
 Zope, and I want some references of Zope uses in higher education if
 possible.

 Please could someone send me any testimonial on the (successful or not,
 and why) use of Zope in higher education, the products which might help us
 (we will at least need SquishDot, the LDAP adapter, the Oracle adapter,
 the KnowledgeBase product, etc...). I'm also interested in testimonials
 about the use of WebCT or similar products.

 Thank you very much.

 PS: As always this is urgent :-(

 Jerome ALET - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://cortex.unice.fr/~jerome
 Fac de Medecine de Nicehttp://wwwmed.unice.fr
 Tel: (+33) 4 93 37 76 30 Fax: (+33) 4 93 53 15 15
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Re: [Zope] Newbie Question

2000-11-24 Thread Chalu Kim


dtml-with myFolder
dtml-in "objectValues(['DTML Document',])"
dtml-var "_['sequence-item']"
/dtml-in
/dtml-with

Dany Rioux wrote:
 
 I'm probably just being dumb... :)
 
 PASTE--
 dtml-var standard_html_header
 
 p
 dtml-with News
  dtml-in objectValues
  /dtml-in
 /dtml-with
 /p
 
 dtml-var standard_html_footer
 /PASTE--
 
 This doesn't work. Nothing gets printed.
 
 In the News folder is a DTML method called news999. Should it be a
 DTML document instead for this to work?
 
 I tried the three methods you gave me. objectValues, "objectValues()"
 and "objectValues('[File]')" and even "objectValues('[news999]')" but
 empty everytime.
 
 TIA
 
 Dany
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of Andy
  McKay
  Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 7:00 PM
  To: Chris Withers
  Cc: Dany Rioux; Zope Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [Zope] Newbie Question
 
 
  Or even: dtml-in "objectValues(['File'])"
  if this news thing is a file ;-P
 
   Or even:
  
   dtml-in objectValues
  
   ;-)
  
   Chris
  
   Andy McKay wrote:
   
dtml-in "objectValues()"
   
--
From: "Dany Rioux" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Hi everyone,

 Simple newbie question... :)

 I've made a directory called News into which I will
  put files named
 newsXXX. X being a number from 999 to 001.

 What I want to do is to tell zope to put each file
  into a document.
 Now, here is what I figured out.

 dtml-with News
   dtml-in ??? --- that's where I'm stuck. I don't
  know how to
 iterate through a directory ... I want ALL the
  newsXXX displayed.
   /dtml-in
 /dtml-with

 How do I do that?

 TIA

 Dany
 
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Re: [Zope] how to get the created table names

2000-11-24 Thread Chalu Kim


There is no tag that shows tables and there will be not be such tag.

What you might want to look into ; ZnolkWizard.. This is a handy module
which queries for tables in your database and build create/edit/delete
forms. There is also a handy way to specify key-related data. This gets
you half way to build UIs when you have many tables.

Good luck.

Jose Soares wrote:
 
 There isn't a SQL standard command to show the tables in the database.
 Thus evry database has a different command to do such job.
 For example:
 
 DBMaker:
   to show TABLES:  select  *  from SYSTABLE
   to show COLUMNS: SELECT  COLUMN_NAME,TYPE_NAME,PRECISION  FROM
 SYSCOLUMN  WHERE  TABLE_NAME='table_name'
 MySQL:
   to show TABLES:  SHOW TABLES
   to show COLUMNS: DESC table_name
 PostreSQL:
   to show TABLES:  select tablename from pg_tables where tablename not
 like 'pg_%'
   to show COLUMNS: SELECT a.attname, t.typname, CASE WHEN a.attlen  0
 THEN attlen ELSE a.atttypmod END as length FROM pg_class c, pg_attribute
 a, pg_type t WHERE c.relname = 'table_name' AND a.attnum  0 AND
 a.attrelid = c.oid AND a.atttypid = t.oid
 
 I wrote a couple of ZSQL Methods to emulate a generic ISQL
 to query a database using the SQL language
 which shows the names of every table in the database
 and every column name, type and length of every table.
 If you want I can send you it.
 
 José
 
 subrahmanyan kalathur wrote:
 
  hi,
 
  I would like to know the names of the created table in zsql method.
  Kindly give me the tag for displaying the table names.( if exists.)
 
  thanks
  bye
  yours,
 
  K.H.Subrahmanyan
 
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[Zope] Thank you DC

2000-11-24 Thread Andy McKay

Ive just noticed that in Zope 2.2.4, the location of the object underneath
the manage_tabs has had those annoying spaces removed so its now
/docs/ActivePython instead of / docs/ ActivePython. That means I can cut and
paste it. Yeah!!!

Thanks DC.


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[Zope] Re: is it possible to see whether any user is using a perticular zope object

2000-11-24 Thread Dieter Maurer

subrahmanyan kalathur writes:
 which RDBMS will u suggest.
MySQL or Postgres
  and for that what are the changes need to be done for my zope.
Install the RDBMS and the corresponding Zope database adapter.
Replace your Zope Gadfly connection(s) by corresponding
Zope XXX connection(s).
Maybe, you need small adjustments to your SQL.
  and where can I get that.
You know archives and search engines?
  give the links please.
Am I your consultant?
I do not think so. It would take me as long as you to
find the links (in the searchable archive of this list
and/or via search engines).


Dieter

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Re: [Zope] Objection to Python Script Name

2000-11-24 Thread Chalu Kim



Michel Pelletier wrote:
 
 Jason Cunliffe wrote:
 
  2. Fixes the OReilly book in some sensible manner - add highly legible note
  on Page 1, update the index in useful manner to catch the differences.
 
 Oh I'll be doing that one, no worries there.
 
  3. Will explain to me 100% clearly what difference there is now between a
  regular Python script and a 'Python Script' in Zope?
 
 There is no such thing as a "script" in the Python language (see the
 index of the "language reference" on the python site, you will find
 "method" and "module" but not "script").  "Script" is just a word that
 is informally and commonly used to refer to a chunk of code written in
 some language on some platform that is invoked by some action, possibly
 from a "command line" or by double clicking on an icon.  In the case of
 a Zope Python Script, the code is written in python, the platform is
 Zope, and the "command line" is your web browser.
 

Connotatively, scripting rings the same meaning as ASP scripting,
ColdFusion scripting,
PHP scripting, JSP scripting... How is Python script different from
them? 

But Python script isn't "SCRIPTING" in that sense of the word. 

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[Zope] Quota in Zope

2000-11-24 Thread Stephan Goeldi

Is there a way to do quotas in Zope?
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[Zope] Can't get simple count to work.

2000-11-24 Thread Ignacio Valdes

Hello all,

I have a Squishdot site at http://www.linuxmednews.com that I've
successfully been able to make a page that has a one line link of all
the articles that have appeared on the site. Unfortunately, the number
has grown to a few hundred and I need to make it display n lines at a
time as well as count them so I can keep track. I am trying to use the
following code to display them with a count, but I've tried just about
everything and spent hours on this 'simple' task, but can't get it to
work. This is as close as I could get only it numbers the articles that
appeared on a particular day, then jumps to the next day that articles
where posted. i.e. not a smooth 1 to n count.  You can see what it does
at: http://www.linuxmednews.com/linuxmednews/display_old_articles Could
anyone have a look?

-- IV

dtml-let currtime="ZopeTime()"
dtml-in "_.range(1,all_cnt)" 
  dtml-if "date_list(_['sequence-item'])"
dtml-let num1="_['sequence-index']"
dtml-call "REQUEST.set('article_found',1)" 
dtml-in "date_list(_['sequence-item'])" 
  BR dtml-var "num1"
IMG SRC="dtml-var SCRIPT_NAME /dtml-var icon url_quote" BORDER="0"

  A href="dtml-var site_url /dtml-var id
url_quote/index_html"dtml-var title/Anbsp;
  dtml-if reply_cnt(dtml-var reply_cnt)/dtml-if by dtml-var
authorFONT size=2 on dtml-var date_posted

/dtml-in
/dtml-let
  /dtml-if
/dtml-in
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Re: [Zope] Quota in Zope

2000-11-24 Thread Andy McKay

A quota of what where?

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[Zope] Python and EJB (J2EE)

2000-11-24 Thread Hung Jung Lu

Python and EJB (J2EE)
=

Searching through comp.lang.python newsgroup archive 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, I have not been 
able to find much about EJB (Enterprise Java Bean) and Python/Zope 
comparisons. (J2EE is Java Two Enterprise Edition, basically another jargon 
for any architecture based on EJBs.)

I believe this field deserves to be explored a little bit more. If Python is 
going to be more used in the corporate environment, it has to be made 
stronger. This message is kind of unorganized, but I would like to have 
comments/feedback from other people.

The following message shows that I am not the only one interested:

ruben [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/2000 in comp.lang.python:

Coming from a Java background and recently using Python for application 
development, I have a question. Is there an equivalent to Enterprise 
JavaBeans in Python?  If so, please point me to some resources!!!

Similarly Joe Grace [EMAIL PROTECTED] has posted an explanation on J2EE in 
the Zope mailing list:

http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/0dec1f578f18f116802568ab003585d2/86cffddc1a8a73b980256865006d44a2?OpenDocument

I am starting to look into Java EJB, and I must say that despite all the 
hype, it is totally horrible. I can understand the goals of EJB, but I 
wonder whether something simpler and cleaner might be better. EJBs, 
especially entity beans, have largely failed and have disappointed many Java 
developers, or so it seems from the comments I have received from other 
people.

First off: what is an EJB? There are plenty of books out there, there are 
plenty of websites out there, but you'll probably be hard-pressed to find 
someone that has actually worked with EJBs. I've never liked the names "Java 
Beans" and "Enterprise Java Beans". These are marketing names. We need some 
more generic names. "Java Beans" are an attempt by Sun to implement 
component programmming. That is, the idea is to have component classes on a 
single machine (virtual machine in the case of Java) that can be shared/used 
by different programs. In this sense, "Java Beans" are much like DLLs, Unix 
shared libraries, Python modules, or Microsoft's COM, ActiveX stuff. "Java 
Beans" are designed to be shared within one single machine. "Enterprise Java 
Beans" are much more complex than "Java Beans", and they are aimed at 
distributed computing: EJBs are designed as classes/components to be shared 
by multiple machines. In this sense, they are more like CORBA, or 
Microsoft's DCOM. Therefore:

(1) Java Beans --- local components, run on the same machine
(2) Enterprise Java Beans --- distributed components, distributed 
computing, multiple machines, potentially located in different geographic 
locations. These components often have instance pools running in multiple 
threads, and often are transactional.

-

What about Python? Or Zope? Simple distributed computing is not too hard to 
implement. CGIs in fact are a way of distributed computing. Python does have 
DCOM (Mark Hammond) and CORBA. But I don't think DCOM/CORBA are the way to 
go. In Python/Zope world, I guess Fredrik Lundh's XML-RPC is the closest 
starting point for distributed computing, and eventually for something 
similar to EJB container. (See http://www.zope.org/Members/Amos/XML-RPC for 
XML-RPC in Zope and http://www.pythonware.com/products/xmlrpc/ for XML-RPC 
in Python.) There is also (See SOAP 
http://static.userland.com/xmlRpcCom/soap/SOAPv11.htm ), which is an 
extended version of XML-RPC.

For more information on XML-RPC, visit http://www.xmlrpc.com/ .

Zope can be used as equivalent to EJB container. But Zope is a general 
webserver with a lot of features that a simple server don't need.

-

EJBs are there because of a few good reasons:

(1) Multi-threaded, workload distribution, instance pooling
(2) Security
(3) Transactional
(4) Managed persistence (for "entity beans" in the EJB jargon)

These are all important requirements for the corporate world. Can Python do 
all these things? The answer right now is no. There is nothing really 
equivalent to EJB in the Python world.

-

Security: Python is great for rapid development. The 
reflection/introspection power of Python is wonderful. I particularly like 
the absence of the "private" keyword. In C++ and Java, corporate security is 
implemented at the language level, which makes these language quite 
annoying, in my opinion. That being said, corporates DO need security 
mechanisms. If Python were to be used in corporate environment, there MUST 
be a security interface layer. We don't want any employee to be able to peek 
into the president's salary, for instance. That is, absolute data hiding at 
a higher level is necessary. As Java/C++ have shown, data hiding at the 
language level not only is an illusion, but ties up programmers hands too 
much. So, it's best to leave the language itself free, and implement the 
data 

[Zope] Passing Variables to a Wizard

2000-11-24 Thread Nestor A. Diaz L.

HI,

Does anybody know how can i pass variables from a product to a Wizard.

I mean:

I am using the PTK to create my own product however PTK use the Wizard as
the default method to add a product, how can i pass variables to a wizard
form a python product ?

I can pass variables to the edit method using the following:

editForm=HTMLFile('dtml/edictoEdit', globals(),  typeList = type_list)

Where typeList is a global array.

But i don't know how can i do the same with a wizard.

Thanks

--
Nestor A. Diaz
Ingeniero de Desarrollo
Engendro.com - Comercio Electronico sobre Linux
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Re: [Zope] Quota in Zope

2000-11-24 Thread Chalu Kim

 
Hmmm, Sounds like disk quota. Homesteading anyone?

Andy McKay wrote:
 
 A quota of what where?
 
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[Zope] BSD 4 installation

2000-11-24 Thread Lee Hunter

I'm trying to build Zope on a BSD server.

According to the install.txt I have to run two commands - "python w_pcgi.py"
and "./start".

I managed to get the first command to run (python w_pcgi.py) after editing
my Makefile.pre.in and do.py as per the FAQ.txt.

But when I when I run the second command (./start) I get the following error
message:

media2: {38} % ./start
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/magma/users/u21/wake/zope/z2.py", line 554, in ?
exec "import "+MODULE in {}
  File "string", line 1, in ?
  File "/magma/users/u21/wake/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py", line 94, in
?
import ZODB, ZODB.ZApplication, imp
  File "/magma/users/u21/wake/zope/lib/python/ZODB/__init__.py", line 85, in
?
import sys, ExtensionClass, TimeStamp, cPersistence, Persistence
ImportError: No module named ExtensionClass

Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?

TIA

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Re: [Zope] Python and EJB (J2EE)

2000-11-24 Thread Chalu Kim


Good topic. I was hoping someone would come around to this. Perhaps,
there should be a thread of discussion on this.

I dont' know what is there to compare. EJB has been around awhile and
J2EE is yet another jargon to throw people off. Here is what we have
experienced; 1. Anything that needs to be done on J2EE takes twice as
long and of course, costs more. 2. Of "Java" programmers (there are
many, 2M strong as a Java wannabe proclaims), only handful of
programmers can really do anything. 3. Corporations are still very much
enamored with Sun and Java with an idea "Sun is big and we can't go
wrong with it. Zope and Python, I am clueless."  4. My close friend
specifies Java language and he won't have anything to do with Java
application. There is a theory that in Amercia, we make most of our
money with hypes as if it is a bad thing when things work.

Nevertherless, I think there needs to be a study of point-by-point
comparison between EJB and Zope. Don't look at it from Zope/Python POV
but from Java the Hut POV. Python folks don't really know what resuable
codes and libraries they all have and their developments have been
organic. I admit I don't know this for sure. I am being a devil's
advocate. Some hot developers throw some stuff and we marvel at them.

I think for Zope/Python to become enterprise, it needs to have quite a
few things and I like to know if its community is ready for the mundane.

Here are some topics;
1. Message queue
2. implementation of protocols such as SOAP, BXXP
3. better documentations for different levels of readership (decision
maker, developer, systems architect, etc)
4. promotions, workshops and training
5. learning to play golf and smoke cigar...

:-)

Hung Jung Lu wrote:
 
 Python and EJB (J2EE)
 =
 
 Searching through comp.lang.python newsgroup archive
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, I have not been
 able to find much about EJB (Enterprise Java Bean) and Python/Zope
 comparisons. (J2EE is Java Two Enterprise Edition, basically another jargon
 for any architecture based on EJBs.)
 
 I believe this field deserves to be explored a little bit more. If Python is
 going to be more used in the corporate environment, it has to be made
 stronger. This message is kind of unorganized, but I would like to have
 comments/feedback from other people.
 
 The following message shows that I am not the only one interested:
 
 ruben [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/2000 in comp.lang.python:
 
 Coming from a Java background and recently using Python for application
 development, I have a question. Is there an equivalent to Enterprise
 JavaBeans in Python?  If so, please point me to some resources!!!
 
 Similarly Joe Grace [EMAIL PROTECTED] has posted an explanation on J2EE in
 the Zope mailing list:
 
 
http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/0dec1f578f18f116802568ab003585d2/86cffddc1a8a73b980256865006d44a2?OpenDocument
 
 I am starting to look into Java EJB, and I must say that despite all the
 hype, it is totally horrible. I can understand the goals of EJB, but I
 wonder whether something simpler and cleaner might be better. EJBs,
 especially entity beans, have largely failed and have disappointed many Java
 developers, or so it seems from the comments I have received from other
 people.
 
 First off: what is an EJB? There are plenty of books out there, there are
 plenty of websites out there, but you'll probably be hard-pressed to find
 someone that has actually worked with EJBs. I've never liked the names "Java
 Beans" and "Enterprise Java Beans". These are marketing names. We need some
 more generic names. "Java Beans" are an attempt by Sun to implement
 component programmming. That is, the idea is to have component classes on a
 single machine (virtual machine in the case of Java) that can be shared/used
 by different programs. In this sense, "Java Beans" are much like DLLs, Unix
 shared libraries, Python modules, or Microsoft's COM, ActiveX stuff. "Java
 Beans" are designed to be shared within one single machine. "Enterprise Java
 Beans" are much more complex than "Java Beans", and they are aimed at
 distributed computing: EJBs are designed as classes/components to be shared
 by multiple machines. In this sense, they are more like CORBA, or
 Microsoft's DCOM. Therefore:
 
 (1) Java Beans --- local components, run on the same machine
 (2) Enterprise Java Beans --- distributed components, distributed
 computing, multiple machines, potentially located in different geographic
 locations. These components often have instance pools running in multiple
 threads, and often are transactional.
 
 -
 
 What about Python? Or Zope? Simple distributed computing is not too hard to
 implement. CGIs in fact are a way of distributed computing. Python does have
 DCOM (Mark Hammond) and CORBA. But I don't think DCOM/CORBA are the way to
 go. In Python/Zope world, I guess Fredrik Lundh's XML-RPC is the closest
 starting point for distributed 

Re: [Zope] DC request re: Objection to Python Script Name

2000-11-24 Thread Ron Bickers

Quoting Hamish Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 understanding. I agree with him that the new name 
needs to make it into
 the book, and Script is a reasonable choice. Is it 
intended to rename
 DTML Method, ZSQL Method, etc to be DTML Script, SQL 
Script, etc? For
 the sake of consistency I'm hoping so, and I think 
it's important that
 these revisions also make it into the book.

I agree that this consistency is important, and "before 
the book" is a good time to disrupt names.

Also, what about External Method?  External Script?  
Also, are these going to remain only available in the 
Python language?  If not, that name becomes an issue 
too.

I hope all this naming talk isn't too distracting for 
DC, but I (and clearly others) think it's important, 
esp. before the world sees it in print.

---
Ron

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Re: [Zope] Medusa Monitor

2000-11-24 Thread Dieter Maurer

Anderson Ami writes:
Anybody knows What is Medusa Monitor ? What it do ? How can I use it ?
The Medusa monitor allows you to connect to a running Zope
Server and get a Python interpreter in this context.
With it, you can (in principle) analyse your Zope system.
However, this way of debugging is probably only for experts.

There is a document at zope.org (I forgot its name) that says
a bit about this "monitor": search for "monitor".


Dieter

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Re: [Zope] ZPyGreSQLDA on Tru64?

2000-11-24 Thread Dieter Maurer

Stephane Bortzmeyer writes:
  ImportError: dlopen: cannot load /usr/local/lib/python2.0/site-packages/_pgmodu
  le.so
I expect, that "_pgmodule.so" needs some other shared object or symbol
that is unavailable.

Try "import _pg" in an interactive Python interpreter.
I remember that in some cases I got a better error message
that indicated precisely, what was missing.

If it does not, then you may try "ldd _pgmodule.so"
to list the shared objects required by "_pg".
It will tell you, when there are some missing.

I hope, that one of these approaches will reveal what is
wrong. Otherwise, it would probably be a missing symbol.
But it is quite difficult to detect which one.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope] view DTML source

2000-11-24 Thread Dieter Maurer

Anders Eriksson writes:
  ... view source traceback ...
  (Object: standard_html_header)
  AttributeError: __call__

That is very strange as "standard_html_header" does have
a "__call__" method.

Thus, I can not tell you, why you see this behaviour.

However, you may use "document_src" directly in the
URL. I.e. you do not need a special DTML method 'view_source".

Try something like this:

http:/index_html/document_src


I know, it would be nicer to use "view_source" but 



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Re: [Zope] images last-modified bug?

2000-11-24 Thread Dieter Maurer

Júlio Dinis Silva writes:
  I read sometime ago of a bug in zope not sending images header
  last-modified, which cause browsers to always get images from
  zope not using the browser's cache
This only affects "App.ImageFile" objects.
These are image objects that are in the filesystem and not in the
ZODB. Usually, they are only used in Zope's management interface,
although special applications may use them too.
However, most images in Zope are "OFS.Image" objects that
do send "Last-Modified" headers.

In Zope 2.2.4 (to be released soon), the problem is fixed.
The "b1" version has fixed it, too, but a small bug slipped
in causing some images to be broken.
Today, I saw a patch in the mailing list.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope] ZEO

2000-11-24 Thread Dieter Maurer

Anderson Ami writes:
  I´m trying install the ZEO in my Zope ( Windows NT System ) and when I use
  this command :
python ..\lib\python\ZEO\start.py -p 8800
  to start the ZEO I get this :
  
  Traceback (innermost last):
File "..\lib\python\ZEO\start.py", line 304, in ?
  if __name__=='__main__': main(sys.argv)
File "..\lib\python\ZEO\start.py", line 286, in main
  signal.signal(signal.SIGHUP, handler)
  AttributeError: SIGHUP
ZEO might not yet be NT ready:

  When I remember right, NT only implements a small set
  of the standard POSIX signals (at least, if it does
  not run in POSIX mode).
  It might well be, that the signal SIGHUP (hangup)
  is not implemented, at least that Python does
  not expect it to be always there.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope] ZopeBook - URL to SQL

2000-11-24 Thread Dieter Maurer

Chris Gray writes:
  The Zope book discusses calling a ZSQL Method via a URL, saying that a
  request for a URL like:
  
http://localhost:8080/zsql_method/parameter/value
  
  "will return a result object", but what I get is the index_html document
  at the root, although I do get a rendered record with:
The ZPublisher works as follows:

  It traverses the ZODB guided by the components in your URL.
  It it arrives at the URL's end, it checks whether the
  reached object is callable (this is the case for all
  kinds of methods and documents). If it is, the object
  is called.
  If it is not, ZPublisher checks, whether the object
  has (or can acquire) a method "index_html"
  (this usually is the case). It then calls this method.

In your case:

  ZPublisher will reach the result object (as the Zope book
  describes). Unless you have wrapped this object
  into a custom class (aka brain, see "Advanced" tab),
  this is a "Record" object.
  A "Record" object is not callable.
  "index_html" is looked for, found in a folder above and
  rendered.

  That's what you see.

What can you do?

  Wrap you results into a custom brain that either
  defines a "__call__" (that would need to be a
  Python defined class) or an "index_html" (this
  may be a non-persistent ZClass).


Dieter

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[Zope] Re: is it possible to run a DTML method without using a browser.

2000-11-24 Thread Dieter Maurer

subrahmanyan kalathur writes:
 what is RPC ? , ZEO, ZODB.
  how to install it.
  where to install it.
It seems to me that you have to do some homework.

A good start would be to read the upcoming Zope book.
It will tell you what ZODB and ZEO is, how to install it
and where to install it. It may tell you also something
about RPC (Remote Procedure Calls), but not enough
that you could use it directly.

I am sure, you will find the book draft via "zope.org",
something like

  URL:http://www.zope.org/members/michel/ZB

(case in members may be wrong).


I think, I am quite helpfull.
But I expect, that people asking questions are ready to
do something (beyond just asking) to find answers for
themselves: looking for resources at zope.org, zdp.zope.org,
in the Zope book and the list archives, for example.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope] images last-modified bug?

2000-11-24 Thread Dieter Maurer

Stefan H. Holek writes:
  http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1737/view
  
  its fixed for 2.2.4, sadly no patch for 2.2.2 afaik :(
I have put a partial patch into the collector.

It can be applied against 2.2.2.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope] Quota in Zope

2000-11-24 Thread Andy McKay

Ok. A disk quota of particular person? or folder? or some object? or is Zope
itself not fitting in a disk quota?
If you can't give us a brief example or more helpful description than this,
you arent going to get much help.

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Subject: Re: [Zope] Quota in Zope


  A quota of what where?

 Disk quota



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Re: [Zope] Quota in Zope

2000-11-24 Thread Hugo Ramos

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From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Ok. A disk quota of particular person? or folder? or some object? or is
Zope
 itself not fitting in a disk quota?
 If you can't give us a brief example or more helpful description than
this,
 you arent going to get much help.


Well... this is a great question!!!
That would be very useful!! A folder quota for portal like websites where
the company could serve personal webpages to the clients.

Great!


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Re: [Zope] Python and EJB (J2EE)

2000-11-24 Thread Ender

i've been playing around with servlets (tomcat, jserv, orionserver.com)
and generally been pretty happy with them. development cycle is a lot
slower than zope. i did some prelim work on hooking up jserv to zope but
gave up cause the performance generally sucked (jserv is still using
apj1.1 which doesn't have persistent connections) and figured there were
easier ways to get the two talking besides directly ala distributed
protocols or shared backend resource like a rdbms.

j2ee is more than just ejbs, its a whole slew of technologies like
(jdbc, jndi (directories), jms (messaging), jts (client transactions),
jaxl?(xml)...). one advantage of using java for a project thats going to
be talking several of these protocols is the fact that there is a
standard supported library for it as opposed to python's bazaar style of
development and support (not to mention documentation). integration of
this stuff in python generally requires evalutation on a per
protocol/library basis because in some cases the library just isn't
robust enough to handle the work (python's soap support comes to mind).  

as for component technologies, i really feel this comes out more as a
programming paradigm in python rather than a forced technology. 

as for distributed technologies, while xml-rpc is useful and simple its
not useful (IMO) for enterprise programming, its too basic. it requires
alot of custom app programming to transfer meaningful exceptions. some
protocols/libraries that i would like to see in python would be soap,
wddx (bindings for httpsoap), uddi. i've never used com/dcom so i've
nothing to say about them. python does have great corba support
(omniorb, fnorb) and some is working on integrating zope as a corba
system (hopefully they'll write up a howto/ release some code), and pyro
can cut it for simple distributed systems.

so what would you like to see in a python component container?

kapil



Hung Jung Lu wrote:
 
 Python and EJB (J2EE)
 =
 
 Searching through comp.lang.python newsgroup archive
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, I have not been
 able to find much about EJB (Enterprise Java Bean) and Python/Zope
 comparisons. (J2EE is Java Two Enterprise Edition, basically another jargon
 for any architecture based on EJBs.)
 
 I believe this field deserves to be explored a little bit more. If Python is
 going to be more used in the corporate environment, it has to be made
 stronger. This message is kind of unorganized, but I would like to have
 comments/feedback from other people.
 
 The following message shows that I am not the only one interested:
 
 ruben [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/2000 in comp.lang.python:
 
 Coming from a Java background and recently using Python for application
 development, I have a question. Is there an equivalent to Enterprise
 JavaBeans in Python?  If so, please point me to some resources!!!
 
 Similarly Joe Grace [EMAIL PROTECTED] has posted an explanation on J2EE in
 the Zope mailing list:
 
 
http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/0dec1f578f18f116802568ab003585d2/86cffddc1a8a73b980256865006d44a2?OpenDocument
 
 I am starting to look into Java EJB, and I must say that despite all the
 hype, it is totally horrible. I can understand the goals of EJB, but I
 wonder whether something simpler and cleaner might be better. EJBs,
 especially entity beans, have largely failed and have disappointed many Java
 developers, or so it seems from the comments I have received from other
 people.
 
 First off: what is an EJB? There are plenty of books out there, there are
 plenty of websites out there, but you'll probably be hard-pressed to find
 someone that has actually worked with EJBs. I've never liked the names "Java
 Beans" and "Enterprise Java Beans". These are marketing names. We need some
 more generic names. "Java Beans" are an attempt by Sun to implement
 component programmming. That is, the idea is to have component classes on a
 single machine (virtual machine in the case of Java) that can be shared/used
 by different programs. In this sense, "Java Beans" are much like DLLs, Unix
 shared libraries, Python modules, or Microsoft's COM, ActiveX stuff. "Java
 Beans" are designed to be shared within one single machine. "Enterprise Java
 Beans" are much more complex than "Java Beans", and they are aimed at
 distributed computing: EJBs are designed as classes/components to be shared
 by multiple machines. In this sense, they are more like CORBA, or
 Microsoft's DCOM. Therefore:
 
 (1) Java Beans --- local components, run on the same machine
 (2) Enterprise Java Beans --- distributed components, distributed
 computing, multiple machines, potentially located in different geographic
 locations. These components often have instance pools running in multiple
 threads, and often are transactional.
 
 -
 
 What about Python? Or Zope? Simple distributed computing is not too hard to
 implement. CGIs in fact are a way of distributed 

[Zope] Re[2]: [Zope] view DTML source

2000-11-24 Thread Anders Eriksson

Hello Dieter,

Friday, November 24, 2000, 10:06:22 PM, you wrote:

DM Anders Eriksson writes:
DM   ... view source traceback ...
DM   (Object: standard_html_header)
DM   AttributeError: __call__
DM That is very strange as "standard_html_header" does have
DM a "__call__" method.
DM Thus, I can not tell you, why you see this behaviour.

Maybe I have something wrong in my standard_html_header? It's kind of
complex (.I have copied it.) I will remove it and try again.

DM However, you may use "document_src" directly in the
DM URL. I.e. you do not need a special DTML method 'view_source".
DM Try something like this:
DM http:/index_html/document_src
DM I know, it would be nicer to use "view_source" but 

AFAIU there is two problems with using document_src directly
1) I can't use the html_quote param
2) Anonymously users can't use this on 'standard' Zope. I tried on
zope.org but it want me to log in. Using view_source I don't need to
do this.

This can of cause be me misunderstanding ;-)

Thanks for your reply!
-- 
Best regards,
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RE: [Zope] Special behavior or bug?

2000-11-24 Thread Chris Gray

Sorry, but my understanding (which certainly may be wrong, since I don't
fully grasp the ins and outs of this yet) is that the namespace starts
with the client object to which the method is bound.  The attributes (like
title) of the method never get into the namespace.  This is part of the
design of DTML Methods; they can be bound to a variety of objects while
still giving full access to the client's namespace.  This is why the trick
of calling a DTML Document's title from an embedded DTML header Method
works.  The effect you want to achieve depends on this distinction between
DTML Methods and Documents.

Another way to say this is that the distinction between DTML Documents and
Methods allows a separation of content and logic.  Put your content
(including Titles that will be significant to your visitors) in Documents
and your logic in Methods.

Cheers,
Chris

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Dany Rioux wrote:

 Chris, I can't change all the other DTML Methods to DTML Docs... I
 would have to have only 1 DTML Method which is unthinkable.
 
 Now, I'm sure there's a way to force what I want to do. Either with a
 REQUEST.set('[calling_document.Title]') or something real :)
 
 Is there such a function? (I'm sorry, I'm still confused on how to
 call things in Zope.)
 
 As for the Ferengi rules of acquisition, at least, I'm pretty sure I'd
 get some profits :) haha But, unfortunately, my ears are not as
 erogenous as the Ferengies.  :)
 
 Dany
 
  Make sure that the standard_html_header is a DTML Method
  and not a DTML
  Document.  Make sure that the calling document is DTML
  Document and not a
  DTML Method and it should work.  That way the header
  acquires the title of
  the calling document.  If the calling document is a DTML Method, it
  acquires it's title from somewhere else according to the
  Zope rules of
  acquisition (as opposed to the Ferengi rules of acquisition ;).
 
  Cheers,
  Chris
 
 
  On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Dany Rioux wrote:
 
   Hi, yeah, I know, it's me again :)
  
   I've got this snippet in the standard_html_header hoping it would
   display the title of the calling document but instead displays the
   index_html's title... Is this the normal behavior? I know
  yesterday it
   was working... I tried refreshing the page but it's a no
  go. It simply
   refuses to put the correct title. It doesn't even put the header's
   file title... (something I guessed it would do the first
  time I tried
   it)
  
   Any opinion on that?
  
   ---PASTE---
 tr
   td align="right"H2dtml-var title/H2/td
 /tr
   ---/PASTE---
 
 
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Re: [Zope] ZopeBook - URL to SQL

2000-11-24 Thread Chris Gray

Dieter,

Thanks, you've added a new room to my brain :)  Possibly that point should
be made in The Book since the discussion of Pluggable Brains comes at the
end of the chapter.

Cheers,
Chris


On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Dieter Maurer wrote:

 Chris Gray writes:
   The Zope book discusses calling a ZSQL Method via a URL, saying that a
   request for a URL like:
   
 http://localhost:8080/zsql_method/parameter/value
   
   "will return a result object", but what I get is the index_html document
   at the root, although I do get a rendered record with:
 The ZPublisher works as follows:
 
   It traverses the ZODB guided by the components in your URL.
   It it arrives at the URL's end, it checks whether the
   reached object is callable (this is the case for all
   kinds of methods and documents). If it is, the object
   is called.
   If it is not, ZPublisher checks, whether the object
   has (or can acquire) a method "index_html"
   (this usually is the case). It then calls this method.
 
 In your case:
 
   ZPublisher will reach the result object (as the Zope book
   describes). Unless you have wrapped this object
   into a custom class (aka brain, see "Advanced" tab),
   this is a "Record" object.
   A "Record" object is not callable.
   "index_html" is looked for, found in a folder above and
   rendered.
 
   That's what you see.
 
 What can you do?
 
   Wrap you results into a custom brain that either
   defines a "__call__" (that would need to be a
   Python defined class) or an "index_html" (this
   may be a non-persistent ZClass).
 
 
 Dieter
 


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RE: [Zope] Special behavior or bug?

2000-11-24 Thread Chris Gray

Oops! I spoke way too soon.

Try dtml-var document_title but you can't use it in a header or it will
give you the title of the header.

You can use the following code in a header:

dtml-in objectValues
dtml-if expr="_['id']==_.string.split(URL, '/')[-1]"
hrdtml-var expr="this().title"hr
/dtml-if
/dtml-in

although it is a bit indirect and fragile: it will only work if you want
the title of DTML Method 'foo' and it is in folder 'bar' and the URL you
use to get it ends '/bar/foo', but it works in a header that is somewhere
else.  You can modify objectValues to expr="bar.objectValues()" but then
it won't work in a header called by methods not in 'bar'.  Another
possible modification is expr="PARENTS[1].objectValues()".

Cheers,
Chris


On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Chris Gray wrote:

 Sorry, but my understanding (which certainly may be wrong, since I don't
 fully grasp the ins and outs of this yet) is that the namespace starts
 with the client object to which the method is bound.  The attributes (like
 title) of the method never get into the namespace.  This is part of the
 design of DTML Methods; they can be bound to a variety of objects while
 still giving full access to the client's namespace.  This is why the trick
 of calling a DTML Document's title from an embedded DTML header Method
 works.  The effect you want to achieve depends on this distinction between
 DTML Methods and Documents.
 
 Another way to say this is that the distinction between DTML Documents and
 Methods allows a separation of content and logic.  Put your content
 (including Titles that will be significant to your visitors) in Documents
 and your logic in Methods.
 
 Cheers,
 Chris
 
 On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Dany Rioux wrote:
 
  Chris, I can't change all the other DTML Methods to DTML Docs... I
  would have to have only 1 DTML Method which is unthinkable.
  
  Now, I'm sure there's a way to force what I want to do. Either with a
  REQUEST.set('[calling_document.Title]') or something real :)
  
  Is there such a function? (I'm sorry, I'm still confused on how to
  call things in Zope.)
  
  As for the Ferengi rules of acquisition, at least, I'm pretty sure I'd
  get some profits :) haha But, unfortunately, my ears are not as
  erogenous as the Ferengies.  :)
  
  Dany
  
   Make sure that the standard_html_header is a DTML Method
   and not a DTML
   Document.  Make sure that the calling document is DTML
   Document and not a
   DTML Method and it should work.  That way the header
   acquires the title of
   the calling document.  If the calling document is a DTML Method, it
   acquires it's title from somewhere else according to the
   Zope rules of
   acquisition (as opposed to the Ferengi rules of acquisition ;).
  
   Cheers,
   Chris
  
  
   On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Dany Rioux wrote:
  
Hi, yeah, I know, it's me again :)
   
I've got this snippet in the standard_html_header hoping it would
display the title of the calling document but instead displays the
index_html's title... Is this the normal behavior? I know
   yesterday it
was working... I tried refreshing the page but it's a no
   go. It simply
refuses to put the correct title. It doesn't even put the header's
file title... (something I guessed it would do the first
   time I tried
it)
   
Any opinion on that?
   
---PASTE---
  tr
td align="right"H2dtml-var title/H2/td
  /tr
---/PASTE---
  
  
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[Zope] Re: Open Source Process (was:DC request re: Objection to Python Script Name)

2000-11-24 Thread Ron Bickers

Quoting Tim Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 While you may / may not have a legitimate stand on
the name
 change. This is the wrong 'string to pull'.
 This is in fact consistent with the open source
nature of the
 product. There comes a time when a decision needs to
be made. It
 gets made by the benevolent dictator, at the time
he/she/it
 decides. It's part of the process. (Yes, I used the
contraction
 properly too!). g

I know (even before I read Michel's and Tim's
messages), that I've mistakenly used the term open
source in my argument.  Perhaps I was thinking of the
fishbowl process DC has put into place to allow a more
open development process and public participation in
decisions in general.  Sorry for the misuse in this
case. I certainly prefer an excellent open source
product with bad naming conventions over a closed
source product with good ones.

I suppose I am most interested in consistent,
representative naming.  With Michel's explanation of
the Python "Method" and generic script, I'm more
comfortable with the name.  I am, however, interested
in what will be done to make ther other "Methods" less
intimidating to new users as Michel argued was one
reason for using Script.  Will we end up with DTML
Documents and DTML Scripts, SQL Scripts, etc.?

Thank you, DC and Zope community, for a great product.
I would use it even if they were called "little bits of
Python code." :-)

---
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