Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: please have a look at ZDatabaseTool

2001-01-29 Thread Olaf Zanger

hi there,

according to what i have seen on the homepage it seems like ZDatabaseTool is the
missing link to push zope to a all in one solution. 

until now we solved most of our stuff with znolkwizard. this is a great product for
what it is designed. 
it has some shortcomes though.

ZDatabaseTool would improve our daily work to a great extend. since also we are not
sponsored (:-) we can only offer debugging and ideas from a different user aspect.

is the product planned to ship under GPL or an corresponding licence?

is it possible to get a tarball for testing?

thanks for the great thing anyway

olaf

Andreas Heckel schrieb:
 
 We at easyleading.org are pleased to announce a new Zope Product.
 
 ZDatabaseTool provides a set of wizards to let you manage databases
 more comfortable. At the moment PostgreSQL is supported. The code is not
 yet
 released but I want you to have a look at the screen shots and the
 online demo.
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/aeg/ZDatabaseTool
 
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Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: please have a look at ZDatabaseTool

2001-01-29 Thread Andreas Heckel

Olaf Zanger wrote:
 
 hi there,
 
 according to what i have seen on the homepage it seems like ZDatabaseTool is the
 missing link to push zope to a all in one solution.

Thanks for the flowers ;-)
 
 until now we solved most of our stuff with znolkwizard. this is a great product for
 what it is designed.
 it has some shortcomes though.

I never tested ZNolk ... I found it just 2 minutes ago on the product
list.
As far as I understand it helps you creating ZSQLMethods and
ZDTMLDocuments for searching, inserting,
updating and so on.

Unlike ZNolk ZDatabaseTool's Wizard creates a ZDatabaseWizard object. So
if you give new features to this class
all your already existing ZDatabaseWizard instances will take advantage
of this new behavior. 

I know there is a lot of work especially to document the design. Perhaps
I should start 
with a small UML diagram.

 is the product planned to ship under GPL or an corresponding licence?
I really don't know. Fortunately it is not yet released so I can think
about it :-)
So far I only decided definiet to give the code back to the community in
one or the other way.
 
 is it possible to get a tarball for testing?
Not at this time. It's my first product. There is not only one line to
comment the code! 
Das kann ich euch wirklich nicht antun. (Sorry ... Altavista is unable
to translate this line ;-)

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Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: please have a look at ZDatabaseTool

2001-01-29 Thread Andreas Heckel

Olaf Zanger wrote:
 
 hi there,
 
 tested the printing facility (nicely done by pdf).
 
 it crashes
 * acrobat reader 4.05 on win98 and
 * the pdf/ps/ghostview part of konqui doesn't like it either,
 
 it works though under
 * acrobat reader 4.0 on suse 7.0

Hi Olaf,
thanks for your feedback.
Unfortunately I can't reproduce the error.
Development is done on Linux and it looks fine.
I tested it just two minutes ago on the Win98 box of my girlfriend.
Acrobat 4.05a 113001:28 ; IE 4.0 (version 4.72.3110.1)
What can I say ... it works :-(
So could you please have a look at the about boxes of your browser and 
Acrobat Reader and report your versions ?

BTW: Why I'm not surprised the trouble starts with Win ;-)

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Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: please have a look at ZDatabaseTool

2001-01-29 Thread Jerome Alet

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Andreas Heckel wrote:

 BTW: Why I'm not surprised the trouble starts with Win ;-)

Oh, please !!!

Please don't start a new flamewar here ;-))

bye,

Jerome Alet


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Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: please have a look at ZDatabaseTool

2001-01-29 Thread Olaf Zanger

hi there

Andreas Heckel schrieb:
 
 Olaf Zanger wrote:
 
  hi there,
 
  tested the printing facility (nicely done by pdf).
 
  it crashes
  * acrobat reader 4.05 on win98 and
  * the pdf/ps/ghostview part of konqui doesn't like it either,
 
  it works though under
  * acrobat reader 4.0 on suse 7.0
 
 Hi Olaf,
 thanks for your feedback.
 Unfortunately I can't reproduce the error.
 Development is done on Linux and it looks fine.
 I tested it just two minutes ago on the Win98 box of my girlfriend.
 Acrobat 4.05a 113001:28 ; IE 4.0 (version 4.72.3110.1)
 What can I say ... it works :-(
 So could you please have a look at the about boxes of your browser and
 Acrobat Reader and report your versions ?
acroread 4.05a 113001:28 (the same as yours)
ms ie 5.00.2919.6307

also happens with 
netscape 4.73 de

so it might be acrobat reader on my system.

sorry -- can't test it more exactly without having it installed

 
 BTW: Why I'm not surprised the trouble starts with Win ;-)
you are not alone on that -- ah, let's have another flamewar.

but, as you know there are people using this on the desktop.
probably you could tell me when you release it

thanks

olaf

p.s. the crash:

ACROBAT verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungltige Seite
in Modul KERNEL32.DLL bei 016f:bff9db61.
Register:
EAX=c0030944 CS=016f EIP=bff9db61 EFLGS=00010212
EBX= SS=0177 ESP=008ffe68 EBP=00900104
ECX= DS=0177 ESI= FS=9d17
EDX=00900144 ES=0177 EDI=00615980 GS=
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
53 8b 15 e4 9c fc bf 56 89 4d e4 57 89 4d dc 89 
Stapelwerte:

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Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: please have a look at ZDatabaseTool

2001-01-29 Thread Olaf Zanger

hi andreas,


  according to what i have seen on the homepage it seems like ZDatabaseTool is the
  missing link to push zope to a all in one solution.
 
 Thanks for the flowers ;-)
that's for free :-)

 
  until now we solved most of our stuff with znolkwizard. this is a great product for
  what it is designed.
  it has some shortcomes though.
 
 I never tested ZNolk ... I found it just 2 minutes ago on the product
 list.
 As far as I understand it helps you creating ZSQLMethods and
 ZDTMLDocuments for searching, inserting,
 updating and so on.
 
 Unlike ZNolk ZDatabaseTool's Wizard creates a ZDatabaseWizard object. So
 if you give new features to this class
 all your already existing ZDatabaseWizard instances will take advantage
 of this new behavior.
well, that's missing in znolk :-(

 So far I only decided definiet to give the code back to the community in
 one or the other way.
that's great to hear

 
  is it possible to get a tarball for testing?
 Not at this time. It's my first product. There is not only one line to
 comment the code!
probably the source is the documentation?
or finally somebody helps you out with documentation.

 Das kann ich euch wirklich nicht antun. (Sorry ... Altavista is unable
 to translate this line ;-)
ah, you mean you can't do that to us?

anyway, probably you want to tag it as "alpha/beta/non documented" or so -- that
helps novices to keep fingers off :-).

anyway, as you said, you want to let it free so probably early freedom helps to raise
the child quickly :-)

olaf

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Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: please have a look at ZDatabaseTool

2001-01-29 Thread Andreas Heckel

Olaf Zanger wrote:
 
 hi there
 
 Andreas Heckel schrieb:
 
  Olaf Zanger wrote:
  
   hi there,
  
   tested the printing facility (nicely done by pdf).
  
   it crashes
   * acrobat reader 4.05 on win98 and
   * the pdf/ps/ghostview part of konqui doesn't like it either,
  
   it works though under
   * acrobat reader 4.0 on suse 7.0
 
  Hi Olaf,
  thanks for your feedback.
  Unfortunately I can't reproduce the error.
  Development is done on Linux and it looks fine.
  I tested it just two minutes ago on the Win98 box of my girlfriend.
  Acrobat 4.05a 113001:28 ; IE 4.0 (version 4.72.3110.1)
  What can I say ... it works :-(
  So could you please have a look at the about boxes of your browser and
  Acrobat Reader and report your versions ?
 acroread 4.05a 113001:28 (the same as yours)
 ms ie 5.00.2919.6307
 
 also happens with
 netscape 4.73 de
 
 so it might be acrobat reader on my system.
 
 sorry -- can't test it more exactly without having it installed

Hi Olaf,
I'll do my best to release the code as soon as possible.
For now I turned off PDF compression. Would be interesting if it 
makes more sense to your KERNEL32.DLL :-)
Unfortunately I can't update to ie 5 on the Win98 box of my girlfriend
because she needs it for business and she prohibited to toch her (still)
running system.

How ever ... I already saw my program running on W2000 Acrobat 4.05 IE
5.5 .

Perhaps we can get more feedback from WinXX users on this list ?!

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Re: [Zope] ANNOUNCE: please have a look at ZDatabaseTool

2001-01-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

here's a result from the "other side of the fence": it works just fine using
IE5 on macOS 9.1 :)

jens





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on 1/29/01 12:24, Andreas Heckel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[Zope] ANNOUNCE: please have a look at ZDatabaseTool

2001-01-28 Thread Andreas Heckel

We at easyleading.org are pleased to announce a new Zope Product.

ZDatabaseTool provides a set of wizards to let you manage databases 
more comfortable. At the moment PostgreSQL is supported. The code is not
yet 
released but I want you to have a look at the screen shots and the
online demo.

http://www.zope.org/Members/aeg/ZDatabaseTool 

-- 

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