[Zope] Data.fs.lock permssions error

2006-03-13 Thread JulianRead
Hi i have just installed zope 2.8.6 on fedora core 3 I have created a zope instance however when i go to run this instane i get the following error IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/default/inst1.isolve-unix.co.uk/user/zope/var/Data.fs.lock' When i go into this folder the var

Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock permssions error

2006-03-13 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ JulianRead ]-- | | Hi i have just installed zope 2.8.6 on fedora core 3 | | I have created a zope instance however when i go to run this instane i get | the following error | | IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: |

Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock permssions error

2006-03-13 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 13. März 2006 07:34:52 -0800 JulianRead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi i have just installed zope 2.8.6 on fedora core 3 I have created a zope instance however when i go to run this instane i get the following error IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:

Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock permssions error

2006-03-13 Thread JulianRead
Thanks changing the permissions on the folder solved the problem -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Data.fs.lock-permssions-error-t1273102.html#a3380103 Sent from the Zope - General forum at Nabble.com. ___ Zope maillist -

Re: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?)

2000-06-30 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:19:32 -0400, Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite simply, Data.fs is appended, not modified, except during a pack operation. Think of it like a binary log file. Therefore there are only two ways a simple, live backup of Data.fs can fail: 1) You do the copy in

Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?

2000-06-29 Thread Chris Withers
Erik Enge wrote: One could possibly have a function that put new transactions in a new file, and then - when told it was ok to do so - it could update the regular data.fs file. Hmm, about extending this so you have 'rotating data.fs files' in the same way you have rotating log files?

Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?

2000-06-29 Thread Erik Enge
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Chris Withers wrote: Hmm, about extending this so you have 'rotating data.fs files' in the same way you have rotating log files? In general, yes :-). Do you think it would be solving the right problem the right way? Definitely, but I think it also needs to be solved

RE: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?)

2000-06-29 Thread Wilkinson Charlie E
Title: RE: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?) Just to start by pointing out the bloody obvious: - Restoring from backup means you lose all data between backup date/time and system failure. Sucks, but it beats losing *all* your data. (RAID5 anyone?) - With that in mind

RE: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?)

2000-06-29 Thread Jeff K. Hoffman
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Wilkinson Charlie E wrote: Another random thought is that if ZODB transactions and writes are atomic, than none of this should be an issue. Anyone know the answer to that one? It is my understanding that the ZODB on disk is always in a consistent state; Jim has said, in

RE: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?)

2000-06-29 Thread Erik Enge
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Jeff K. Hoffman wrote: It is my understanding that the ZODB on disk is always in a consistent state; Jim has said, in the past, that you can simply make a copy of Data.fs, even while Zope is running, without problems. But the Data.fs has to be updated sometimes. And if

Re: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?)

2000-06-29 Thread Bill Anderson
Wilkinson Charlie E wrote: Just to start by pointing out the bloody obvious: - Restoring from backup means you lose all data between backup date/time and system failure. Sucks, but it beats losing *all* your data. (RAID5 anyone?) A) Please: no html! B) I just had one weird and

RE: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?)

2000-06-29 Thread Jeff K. Hoffman
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Erik Enge wrote: On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Jeff K. Hoffman wrote: It is my understanding that the ZODB on disk is always in a consistent state; Jim has said, in the past, that you can simply make a copy of Data.fs, even while Zope is running, without problems. But the

RE: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?)

2000-06-29 Thread Wilkinson Charlie E
Title: RE: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?) -Original Message- From: Erik Enge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Jeff K. Hoffman wrote: It is my understanding that the ZODB on disk is always in a consistent state; Jim has said

RE: [Zope] Backing Up Zope (was: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?)

2000-06-29 Thread Erik Enge
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Wilkinson Charlie E wrote: This would be consistent with "atomic updates." What it means is that a transaction is not written to the Data.fs file until it has completed, and when it is finally written out, it's done as an atomic operation, i.e. at the system level it is

Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?

2000-06-28 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:30:30 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tech that does backups on my new NT server (IIS) tells me that everything backs up ok except the \var\Data.fs.lock file. Is that normal or a problem? It's definitely normal, and arguably a problem. On Windows, any file opened for

RE: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?

2000-06-28 Thread Toby Dickenson
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock? Toby Dickenson wrote: It's definitely normal, and arguably a problem. net stop zope copy c:/zope/var/data.fs c:/zope/var/backupdata.fs net start zope I'd say it's definitely a problem if you have to stop zope to do a backup :( But then, I'd

Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?

2000-06-28 Thread Erik Enge
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Chris Withers wrote: I'd say it's definitely a problem if you have to stop zope to do a backup :( How would you do it? In Unix you can't check if the file is being read to (can you?), so if you start backing up a 2GB Data.fs file and then the Zope process starts writing

Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?

2000-06-28 Thread Erik Enge
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Oleg Broytmann wrote: On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Chris Withers wrote: So, how should we backup data.fs without stopping Zope and ensuring the integrity of our data all the while? Pack and backup Data.fs.old. But what if the site is incredibly busy and transactions

Re: [Zope] Data.fs.lock?

2000-06-28 Thread addyd
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[Zope] Data.fs.lock?

2000-06-27 Thread addyd
The tech that does backups on my new NT server (IIS) tells me that everything backs up ok except the \var\Data.fs.lock file. Is that normal or a problem? Darren Addy Internet Specialist and Interim Web Presence Coordinator Office of Information Technology Services University of Nebraska at