Re: [Zope-dev] Twice-annual releases and bugfixes?

2006-01-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
Since this particular bug should be circumventable (new word?) by
using Five 1.3.1, it's not serious enough to warrant a release by
itself, IMO.
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


[Zope-dev] Zope tests: 7 OK, 1 Failed

2006-01-09 Thread Zope tests summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Sun Jan  8 12:01:01 2006 UTC to Mon Jan  9 12:01:01 2006 UTC.
There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Unit Tests.


Test failures
-

Subject: FAILED (errors=2) : Zope-2_8-branch Python-2.3.5 :
Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Sun Jan  8 21:08:17 EST 2006
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-January/003966.html


Tests passed OK
---

Subject: OK : Zope-2_6-branch Python-2.1.3 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Sun Jan  8 21:02:17 EST 2006
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-January/003962.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2_6-branch Python-2.3.5 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Sun Jan  8 21:03:47 EST 2006
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-January/003963.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2_7-branch Python-2.3.5 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Sun Jan  8 21:05:17 EST 2006
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-January/003964.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2_7-branch Python-2.4.2 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Sun Jan  8 21:06:47 EST 2006
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-January/003965.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2_8-branch Python-2.4.2 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Sun Jan  8 21:09:48 EST 2006
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-January/003967.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2_9-branch Python-2.4.2 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Sun Jan  8 21:11:18 EST 2006
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-January/003968.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.2 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Sun Jan  8 21:12:48 EST 2006
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-January/003969.html

___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


[Zope-dev] buildbot failure in Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot

2006-01-09 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope branches 2.9 2.4 Linux 
zc-buildbot.

Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/

Build Reason: changes
Build Source Stamp: 2687
Blamelist: Zen,andreasjung,jim,oestermeier,yuppie

BUILD FAILED: failed test

sincerely,
 -The Buildbot

___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Twice-annual releases and bugfixes?

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Jeff Kowalczyk]
 What does the twice-annual release policy say about bugs and/or packaging
 errors that are identified and fixed within a very short time of the
 official release announcement?

I think the answer you're looking for is that the policy says nothing
about that.  Every-6-months applies to the 'j' position in i.j.k (like
moving from Zope 2.9 to Zope 2.10).  Those can introduce new features.
 Changes only in the 'k' position are bugfix-only releases, and in
theory there could another one of those every day ;-).
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume

Andreas Jung wrote:
the zLOG module will be offically deprecated in Zope 2.10 (removed in 
Zope 2.12). New code _must_ use the 'logging' module of Python. And 
please help

to replace all outstanding code that uses the zLOG module on the _trunk_
(which is a fun job :-|).


If that is the case then I intend to:
1. move the definitions of zope's specific levels (trace and blather) into a 
more prominent place (ZODB also defines these levels, but it has to be an 
independent package),

2. rename 'blather' to 'verbose',
3. push back a number of framework logs that are done on every request at 
the trace level (as they were before the move to python's logging module), 
I'm thinking of transaction logs here.


This leaves the 'debug' level free for application debugging.

Florent

--
Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France)   CTO, Director of RD
+33 1 40 33 71 59   http://nuxeo.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


[Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 9. Januar 2006 16:35:31 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




If that is the case then I intend to:
1. move the definitions of zope's specific levels (trace and blather)
into a more prominent place (ZODB also defines these levels, but it has
to be an independent package),


ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package 
that actually uses these levels.


-aj




pgpDJhBiNg7Lx.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Fred Drake
On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package
 that actually uses these levels.

Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but
rather use the logging package levels.  So in the end, there's no need
for Zope to be defining levels at all, only conventions for how the
levels are used.


  -Fred

--
Fred L. Drake, Jr.fdrake at gmail.com
There is no wealth but life. --John Ruskin
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume

Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

Log message for revision 41225:
  Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.
  


Just to make sure: we didn't lose the ReST allowed arbitrary file includes 
bugfix by doing this?


Florent

--
Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France)   CTO, Director of RD
+33 1 40 33 71 59   http://nuxeo.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


[Zope-dev] RE: [ZODB-Dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Andreas Jung]
 ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package
 that actually uses these levels.

Nevertheless, grep'ing the ZODB source for TRACE and BLATHER will find them.
TRACE is used only in modules under ZEO/zrpc/, and gives extremely verbose
output about bare-metal ZEO communications.  Only someone trying to debug
low-level ZEO socket or protocol problems would want to use TRACE.

___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 9. Januar 2006 10:55:21 -0500 Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB package
that actually uses these levels.






Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but
rather use the logging package levels.  So in the end, there's no need
for Zope to be defining levels at all, only conventions for how the
levels are used.


ZEO is doing that :-)

All code on the trunk  uses (since yesterday) the standard logging level 
(called through logger.info(), logger.error() etc.)


-aj

pgpuQyHPzUNlR.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 9. Januar 2006 17:00:13 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

Log message for revision 41225:
  Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of
  zope.structuredtext.



Just to make sure: we didn't lose the ReST allowed arbitrary file
includes bugfix by doing this?



structuredtext != reST

-aj


pgpq77YpBrVHS.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume

On 9 Jan 2006, at 16:55, Fred Drake wrote:

On 1/9/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ZODB defines these levels but I can not see any code in the ZODB  
package

that actually uses these levels.


Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but
rather use the logging package levels.  So in the end, there's no need
for Zope to be defining levels at all, only conventions for how the
levels are used.


My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine  
grained.
The python logging framework leaves room for numeric levels and  
registering equivalent strings, and indeed ZODB and zLOG have them  
defined.


I want to use them.

Florent

--
Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France)   Director of RD
+33 1 40 33 71 59   http://nuxeo.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Fred Drake]
 Nobody should be using the zLOG levels with the logging package, but
 rather use the logging package levels.  So in the end, there's no need
 for Zope to be defining levels at all, only conventions for how the
 levels are used.

The logging package supports defining as many additional named levels
as you feel like adding, and ZODB added BLATHER and TRACE
zLOG-workalike levels at the time ZODB was converted to use the
logging package.  People may want to restrict themselves to using
logging's built-in levels, but logging was designed to be extended in
this way, so there's no technical barrier here.  In particular, nobody
would want to get ZEO's voluminous but micro-purpose TRACE output at
debug level.
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Fred Drake
On 1/9/06, Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine
 grained.
 The python logging framework leaves room for numeric levels and
 registering equivalent strings, and indeed ZODB and zLOG have them
 defined.

 I want to use them.

Do you need someone else to define a constant for the level you want
before you can use them?  There's a API in the logging module that
allows you to pass the desired level in.  I see no reason to require a
constant to be defined outside your code.


  -Fred

--
Fred L. Drake, Jr.fdrake at gmail.com
There is no wealth but life. --John Ruskin
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine
grained.


Sufficently enough for me. BLATHER  TRACE can be merged to DEBUG
and PROBLEM to either WARN|ERROR. This should be even enough for Zope.


The python logging framework leaves room for numeric levels and
registering equivalent strings, and indeed ZODB and zLOG have them
defined.


Of course zLOG has all levels defined for backward compatibility.
An application should possibly defines its own logger with all 
possibilities the logging module offers when it has the need for additional 
logging levels.


-aj



pgpQBQxgcMkvY.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/StructuredText/ Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of zope.structuredtext.

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume

On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:03, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:00:13 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

Log message for revision 41225:
  Sanely deprecate StructuredText by making it a facade of
  zope.structuredtext.



Just to make sure: we didn't lose the ReST allowed arbitrary file
includes bugfix by doing this?



structuredtext != reST


Ooops my mistake, sorry. I hadn't thought zope 3 was using something  
as old as structuredtext :)


Florent

--
Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France)   Director of RD
+33 1 40 33 71 59   http://nuxeo.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume

On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:25, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine
grained.


Sufficently enough for me.


Sufficient for me is not a good reason sorry. If you don't want to  
use them, then don't use them.



BLATHER  TRACE can be merged to DEBUG
and PROBLEM to either WARN|ERROR. This should be even enough for Zope.


No it can't. TRACE is already being used, and it would drown everyone  
using DEBUG if it was at DEBUG level.

Same thing, BLATHER would drown people looking for succint INFO.


The python logging framework leaves room for numeric levels and
registering equivalent strings, and indeed ZODB and zLOG have them
defined.


Of course zLOG has all levels defined for backward compatibility.
An application should possibly defines its own logger with all  
possibilities the logging module offers when it has the need for  
additional logging levels.


I will standardize those for the use case we're seeing time and again  
and again.


- verbose INFO - BLATHER, which i want to rename VERBOSE
- verbose DEBUG - TRACE

Florent

--
Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France)   Director of RD
+33 1 40 33 71 59   http://nuxeo.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Florent Guillaume

On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:20, Fred Drake wrote:


On 1/9/06, Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine
grained.
The python logging framework leaves room for numeric levels and
registering equivalent strings, and indeed ZODB and zLOG have them
defined.

I want to use them.


Do you need someone else to define a constant for the level you want
before you can use them?  There's a API in the logging module that
allows you to pass the desired level in.  I see no reason to require a
constant to be defined outside your code.


It's useful to have them standardized so that the logging module can  
output a standard string for them in the logs.


Florent

--
Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France)   Director of RD
+33 1 40 33 71 59   http://nuxeo.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 9. Januar 2006 17:40:26 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 9 Jan 2006, at 17:25, Andreas Jung wrote:

--On 9. Januar 2006 17:06:25 +0100 Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

My point is that the python logging levels are insufficiently fine
grained.


Sufficently enough for me.


Sufficient for me is not a good reason sorry. If you don't want to  use
them, then don't use them.


I've never had the need to use them. That's different from not wanting to 
use them. The more choice you have, the more trouble you have. I agree that

a TRACE level might be of interest. But BLATHER and PROBLEM is competely
overhead from my point of view - in fact I can't explain when to use 
BLATHER or TRACE compared to DEBUG. In cases where I have the need to 
perform low-level logging (for debugging purposes) I do usually use a 
dedicated logger

to do not mess up the main logfile.




BLATHER  TRACE can be merged to DEBUG
and PROBLEM to either WARN|ERROR. This should be even enough for Zope.


No it can't. TRACE is already being used, and it would drown everyone
using DEBUG if it was at DEBUG level.
Same thing, BLATHER would drown people looking for succint INFO.


I don't see any Zope code using TRACE except ZEO. Instead of BLATHER you 
could use DEBUG.



I will standardize those for the use case we're seeing time and again
and again.



I don't like the idea of re-introducing something that matches on 'log'.
Otherwise we could have kept zLOG :-)

-aj


pgpJNwz68wqo0.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2006-1-8 22:14 +0100:
 ...
 If you deprecate zLOG could you please instruct the python logger
 to output Zope style tracebacks?

   Zope style tracebacks are much more informative than the stupid
   Python ones.


 As this is probably difficult without Monkey patching,
 I would prefer to have a Zope specific interface for logging purposes.


We'll have to check that. Support in terms of patches are welcome :-)

The Zope specific interface for logging purposes is already there:

  You just want to deprecate and remove it.


-- 
Dieter
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [Zope-dev] zLOG module deprecated

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 9. Januar 2006 20:06:09 +0100 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
We'll have to check that. Support in terms of patches are welcome :-)


The Zope specific interface for logging purposes is already there:

  You just want to deprecate and remove it.


_We_ want to _cleanup_ things. The current zLOG fascade does not provide
any extra formatting code. So we are not giving anything away. The focus of 
Zope 2.10 is definitely on getting rid of old and redundant code, culprits 
etc. So old stuff will be deprecated and replaced code from Zope 3 where 
appliciable.


-aj



pgplmVIGLuiYo.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope-Dev maillist  -  Zope-Dev@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
**  No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )


Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 10.41/04.00] Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!

2006-01-09 Thread Garito

Jonathan escribió:


To pour fuel on the flames...
 
+1 DTML

-1 ZPT
 
Why...
 
1) For 'quick and dirty' demos and rapid application prototyping DTML 
does the trick (yes, even including ZClasses), it is fast, easy, 
reasonably robust and it works!
 
2) For 'heavy lifting' (ie. intense computation, high loads, etc.) I 
prefer a 'product' approach.
 
3) For client-side functionality/control I prefer an AJAX approach 
using a combination of javascript/HTML/XHTML/XHTML-MP plus server-side 
python scripts/external methods/products.
 
ZPT is a bit of a hybrid which increases overhead and doesn't really 
bring any new functionality to the table (for my applications and 
environment).  Yes, for separating (well, mostly separating) content 
from display formatting ZPT is one possible solution, but the divorce 
of content and presentation is better achieved with an AJAX type of 
approach.
 
I think Zope beginners would be better off using DTML (easier to 
learn, user's get quicker results and therefore have more satisfaction 
with Zope as a development platform), and then 'serious' development 
should be done using an AJAX approach with Zope 3 - the way of the 
future imho :-)
 
If we had to make a choice for the future I would prefer Zope 2 + DTML 
and Zope 3 + AJAX (and consign ZPT to the 'good idea at the time' 
bin).  Possibly, in the distant future, AJAX utilities/ides will exist 
which will make rapid prototyping and 'quick  dirty' demos feasible, 
in which case Zope 2 + DTML could fade into happy history.
 
Just my 1-1/2 cents.
 
 
Jonathan
 


- Original Message -
*From:* Greg Fischer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Cc:* zope@zope.org mailto:zope@zope.org
*Sent:* Sunday, January 08, 2006 5:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!

Yes, we need hype!  And a hot looking site, WITH Web 2.0 features. 


Many of these frameworks are providing AJAX capabilities, simple
graphics and data/object access without page reloads.  (like I am
using with Dojo right now)  What does Zope not provide these
features built-in?

And yes, about the central docs.  A ton of info is available right
on Zope.org http://Zope.org, but I always find more on
individual blogs or other google searches.  Zope.org
http://Zope.orgcould use a more intuitive help finder maybe. 
Actually, how aboot a Zopedigg?  Diggs on just Zope articles and

such, with comments?  That would be hot!  Better and easier than a
wiki, IMHO.  The one thing I would say is, from my perspective,
when I have info to share on Zope work I have done, I like to post
on my blog or site, not Zope's. Because I like to provide a demo
or maybe include things *my* way.  Having a ZopeDigg would allow
us to post our work in a central repository, and look a little
flashy too.

The video tutorial should be made.  Like RoR and Symfony-project
have.  It shows beginners how easy something is to do.  And they
will download it.  I did. 


Also, I know this will get some people flaming probably, but Zope
needs more hype for DTML. I KNOW!  99% of you hate it.  But every
time I show someone how to do it, their eyes light up.  It's very
simple coming from ASP or PHP, once you see it in action.  ZPT is
just plain confusing to me.  I hate to say this too, but I am
doing much more in PHP these days, partly due to the fact that
there exists a large dtml sucks attitude in the community.  And
even though it has been said that DTML is not going away, if there
is no hype about it, then it might.  And I don't want to keep
using Zope without it. Yes, yes, I know DTML has many
disadvantages, but it also has many advantages.  I wish there were
more hype about it. 


So, here's a big wish of mine too.  What if Zope was a
*complete* framework, including a web based IDE?  I dont mean the
ZMI, which is hot in itself, but a full featured AJAX-ish IDE,
built upon Zope. Drag and drop widgets and properties even. It
would also have full database access built in. Mysql, Mssql,
Oracle, Postgresql, all ready to go, without needing to purchase
and configure a database adapter.  This would provide a web based,
development framework like .NET using Visual Studio.  Only this
would work on Zope, and therefore would run on Linux OR Windows! 
It doesnt have to be so comprehensive like VS, but simple form

editor with properties and XMLHTTPRequest capability would be
great.  I think we would have a KILLER APP!

Well, maybe I am dreamin?  Just thought I'd give my 2 cents.

Oh, and is the community growing? Well, I think the Netcraft
surveys say a lot.  I know this isnt definitive, but I think it's
great info.  Since I started using Zope in 2002, the sites using
Zope have grown from 6000 to 42000.  Cool!

42000+ Sites in 2006
http://survey.netcraft.com/Reports/0601/

6000+ Sites  in 

Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!

2006-01-09 Thread Jens Vagelpohl


On 9 Jan 2006, at 13:29, Garito wrote:
13 KB deleted

Please clean up the subject line to remove your spam filter's  
markings before you reply. And don't quote a whole long discussion  
including countless message footers only to add one line to the bottom.


Thanks!

jens

___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


[Zope] 2.9.0 install

2006-01-09 Thread Joachim Schmitz
hi,

I just downloaded Zope-2.9.0.tgz and in the README.txt it says:
Installation information can be found in ''doc/INSTALL.txt'' this
apparently must read ''Zope/doc/INSTALL.txt''



-- 
Mit freundlichen GrüßenJoachim Schmitz
..
AixtraWare eK ..Joachim Schmitz ..www.aixtraware.de ..t: +49-2464-8851
Hüsgenstr. 33a .d-52457 Aldenhoven .f: +49-2464-905163
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] 2.9.0 install

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung

already fixed

--On 9. Januar 2006 15:22:49 +0100 Joachim Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hi,

I just downloaded Zope-2.9.0.tgz and in the README.txt it says:
Installation information can be found in ''doc/INSTALL.txt'' this
apparently must read ''Zope/doc/INSTALL.txt''



--
Mit freundlichen GrüßenJoachim Schmitz
..
AixtraWare eK ..Joachim Schmitz ..www.aixtraware.de ..t: +49-2464-8851
Hüsgenstr. 33a .d-52457 Aldenhoven .f: +49-2464-905163
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )






pgpzgAEu87Vpe.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


[Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Fernando Lujan
We use a Psycopg connection, and Z SQL Objects... We don't have any
programs written in python that use zope interfaces and so on.

We have a entire site written in DTML in Zope 2.x. Now, after some
discuss here We want to migrate it to Zope3.x. and start to develop
using the zope 3 facilities and OO and ZPT.

I already install Zope 3.1.0 and try to copy the Data.fs. But it
produces a lot of erros. How can I handle this?

Will exist a way to migrate from Zope 2.x to Zope 3.x?

Thanks in advance.

Fernando Lujan
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/9/06, Fernando Lujan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We use a Psycopg connection, and Z SQL Objects... We don't have any
 programs written in python that use zope interfaces and so on.

 We have a entire site written in DTML in Zope 2.x. Now, after some
 discuss here We want to migrate it to Zope3.x. and start to develop
 using the zope 3 facilities and OO and ZPT.

 I already install Zope 3.1.0 and try to copy the Data.fs. But it
 produces a lot of erros. How can I handle this?

 Will exist a way to migrate from Zope 2.x to Zope 3.x?

Zope 3 is not backwards compatible with Zope 2. There will probably
not exist an *easy* way to migrate as such. People are slowly
working on merging the frameworks so that it will be possible to run
both Zope 2 and Zope 3 programs on the same server, but we are not
there yet. Migration will be an application level affair, meaning that
if you have a custom Zope 2 application, you will have to make the
migration yourself.

Sorry for this negative sounding answer. Zope 3 is super cool, but it
is a super cool development platform. Zope 2 was super cool too, and
Zope 3 is even super cooler. But moving to Zope 3 is at the moment a
lot of development work (you basically need to rewrite your
applictaion completely) and unless you plan on doing that anyway, you
should probably just stick with Zope 2 for the time being. :)

--
Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/
CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
Oh, I forgot:

http://blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blogs/lennart_regebro/2005_10_04_zope2-vs-zope3-faq
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 9. Januar 2006 12:41:46 -0200 Fernando Lujan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I already install Zope 3.1.0 and try to copy the Data.fs.



From where to where?



But it
produces a lot of erros. How can I handle this?


Which errors?

-aj

pgp3kkoNEODbX.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:41:46PM -0200, Fernando Lujan wrote:
 We use a Psycopg connection, and Z SQL Objects... We don't have any
 programs written in python that use zope interfaces and so on.
 
 We have a entire site written in DTML in Zope 2.x. Now, after some
 discuss here We want to migrate it to Zope3.x. and start to develop
 using the zope 3 facilities and OO and ZPT.
 
 I already install Zope 3.1.0 and try to copy the Data.fs. But it
 produces a lot of erros. How can I handle this?

Zope 3 is not backward-compatible to Zope 2.
You can not copy a Data.fs between them.
 
 Will exist a way to migrate from Zope 2.x to Zope 3.x?

In general the migration path looks like:

1) Rewrite your app gradually using Zope 2.8, 2.9, 2.10 (when it comes
out) and gradually leverage more and more features of zope 3 via the
Five compatibility layer.  (This is likely to be much harder if you
have significant dependencies on third-party code.)

2) ??? 

3) export your data from zope 2 somehow, and re-import into zope 3. You
may have to write some of your own serialization code.

Step 2 is not well defined at this point in time :=)

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.5 install

2006-01-09 Thread Robert Conner
Tim,

Thanks for compiling that and setting up the windows installer.
However, I don't believe it works. Sorry it took me so long to get
back to you. I wanted to try installing this on a second computer
before I wrote back. On both of them it starts the cmd window and
displays the command called to run, and then fails to finish the load
up or start the server. Possibly it does work and both of my systems
are configured wrong, but I couldn't get either install to run.

Also, Zope 2.9 is out, if you had planned to make a Windows binary for
that also.

-Rob Conner


On 1/6/06, Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [Tim Peters]
  ...
  I didn't even realize Andreas had released 2.8.5.  I'll build a
  Windows installer for it (I already have everything needed to do that)
  and put it on the download page later today:
 
  http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.8.5

 Zope-2.8.5-final-win32.exe is available from that page now.  Enjoy!



--
Robert Conner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www-student.cse.buffalo.edu/~rtconner
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


[Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Brian Sullivan
I am involved in maintaining a remote Zope site that is behind a
firewall where I have no remote access.

I have a (parallel) site that I use to test changes and upgrades that
is accessible to me.  I am a looking for a straightforward way to
package tested changes, send and have changes applied at the other end
-- without my physical presence (there is a systems maintenance person
a the other with reasonable broad systems knowledge but no in depth
Zope experience). The changes in this case consist of changes to or
new python scripts, dhtml methods and documents, or images spread
throughout a hierarchy of folders on the site.

The only thing I can come up with so far is a (probably fairly painful
and error prone) set of instructions for updating files one by one.

Anybody have any other ideas?
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:15:41AM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote:
 I am involved in maintaining a remote Zope site that is behind a
 firewall where I have no remote access.
 
 I have a (parallel) site that I use to test changes and upgrades that
 is accessible to me.  I am a looking for a straightforward way to
 package tested changes, send and have changes applied at the other end
 -- without my physical presence (there is a systems maintenance person
 a the other with reasonable broad systems knowledge but no in depth
 Zope experience). The changes in this case consist of changes to or
 new python scripts, dhtml methods and documents, or images spread
 throughout a hierarchy of folders on the site.

Just to clarify the question:
Your terminology (folders, dtml methods etc.) suggests (but not
conclusively) that all the changes you are concerned with are to data
that lives in the ZODB.  Is that true?  

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Martijn Pieters
We use a separete lib directory containing versioned Zope Product
directories. That's versioned as in the directory name reflects the
version. These get symlinked into the actual Products directory. For
example:

 lib/Foo-1.10.1
 lib/Bar-2.2.3
 lib/Bar-2.2.4

and in the Products directory a version of each Product is symlinked,
usually the most recent:

 Products/Foo - ../lib/Foo-1.10.1
 Products/Bar - ../lib/Bar-2.2.4

We of course keep our development code in a subversion repository, and
tag releases with version numbers. Pushing out a new release then
becomes a simple process:

1) Create a tarball from a repository export, with a versioned directory name
  $ svn export url://to.repository/Foo/tags/1.11.0 Foo-1.11.0
  $ tar czvf Foo-1.11.0.tgz Foo-1.11.0

2) Copy the tarball to the server and extract it in the lib directory
of the Zope server

3) Repoint the Products symlink:
  $ rm Foo  ln -s ../lib/Foo-1.11.0 Foo

4) Restart the Zope server

It should be trivial to have someone with sysadmin experience do steps
2-4 for you.

--
Martijn Pieters
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Brian Sullivan
On 1/9/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:15:41AM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote:
  I am involved in maintaining a remote Zope site that is behind a
  firewall where I have no remote access.
 
  I have a (parallel) site that I use to test changes and upgrades that
  is accessible to me.  I am a looking for a straightforward way to
  package tested changes, send and have changes applied at the other end
  -- without my physical presence (there is a systems maintenance person
  a the other with reasonable broad systems knowledge but no in depth
  Zope experience). The changes in this case consist of changes to or
  new python scripts, dhtml methods and documents, or images spread
  throughout a hierarchy of folders on the site.

 Just to clarify the question:
 Your terminology (folders, dtml methods etc.) suggests (but not
 conclusively) that all the changes you are concerned with are to data
 that lives in the ZODB.  Is that true?


Yes that is what I was implying.
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Brian Sullivan
On 1/9/06, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We use a separete lib directory containing versioned Zope Product
 directories. That's versioned as in the directory name reflects the
 version. These get symlinked into the actual Products directory. For
 example:

  lib/Foo-1.10.1
  lib/Bar-2.2.3
  lib/Bar-2.2.4

 and in the Products directory a version of each Product is symlinked,
 usually the most recent:

  Products/Foo - ../lib/Foo-1.10.1
  Products/Bar - ../lib/Bar-2.2.4

 We of course keep our development code in a subversion repository, and
 tag releases with version numbers. Pushing out a new release then
 becomes a simple process:

 1) Create a tarball from a repository export, with a versioned directory name
  $ svn export url://to.repository/Foo/tags/1.11.0 Foo-1.11.0
  $ tar czvf Foo-1.11.0.tgz Foo-1.11.0

 2) Copy the tarball to the server and extract it in the lib directory
 of the Zope server

 3) Repoint the Products symlink:
  $ rm Foo  ln -s ../lib/Foo-1.11.0 Foo

 4) Restart the Zope server

 It should be trivial to have someone with sysadmin experience do steps
 2-4 for you.

 --
 Martijn Pieters


I think there is a disconnect. You are talking about Products being
upgraded -- at least that is what I glean from you post?

I am talking about ZODB based elements.

Or am I missing something?
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.5 install

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Robert Conner]
 Thanks for compiling that and setting up the windows installer.
 However, I don't believe it works. Sorry it took me so long to get
 back to you. I wanted to try installing this on a second computer
 before I wrote back. On both of them it

What is it?  Please spell out exactly what you did.  The installer
was tested on Win XP Pro SP2 and worked fine there.  I just downloaded
it again, and had no problems:

- Ran the installer, and accepted all the defaults.

- In particular, accepting all the defaults runs Zope as a Windows service, so
  Zope starts automatically, and the installer brings up the

 Zope Windows Binary Post-Installation QuickStart

  page in a broswer.

- I clicked on Zope Management Interface in that, and entered the admin
  password I gave to the installer when it asked for one.

- I was then logged in to the ZMI, in a running Zope 2.8.5.

I have no idea what you did, because you really didn't say ;-)

 starts the cmd window and displays the command called to run,

Sorry, I'm not picturing what you did at all.  Needs more words.

 and then fails to finish the load up or start the server. Possibly it does 
 work
 and both of my systems are configured wrong, but I couldn't get either install
 to run.

So I'll try something else:

- I stopped the Zope service (by using the Windows Services applet).

- Opened a DOS box and cd'ed to the root of the instance home (\Zope-Instance,
  the default created by the installer).

- Typed bin\runzope and hit ENTER.  This is exactly what was displayed in
  the console then:

C:\Zope-Instancebin\runzope

C:\Zope-InstanceC:\Program Files\Zope-2.8.5-final\bin\python.exe
C:\Program Files\Zope-2.8.5-final\lib\python\Zope2\
Startup\run.py -C C:\Zope-Instance\etc\zope.conf

There isn't more output, and more isn't expected.

- Waited a while ;-), then opened a browser and typed

  http://localhost:8080/manage

  in the address bar.

- Once again I was then logged in to the ZMI, in a running Zope 2.8.5.

Or another way (something I'd never do in real life, but I guess some
people do):

- Shut down Zope from the last try.

- Clicked Start - All Programs - Zope 2.8.5-final - Run Zope In Console
  That should be the same as typing bin\runzope by hand as in the last try,
  and indeed it worked the same way.

Did you try one of those ways?  If so, which one?  If not, what did
you try?  If you tried the third way and the goofy little DOS box
vanished, try the second way instead.  You may get to see a relevant
error message then.  Also look in your instance's var\log\event.log. 
If you're running as a Windows service, look in the Windows
Application and System event logs too.  One particular problem when
running as a service is that Windows Firewall will _not_ prompt you if
it blocks a socket started from a service.  Instead the service hangs
or dies.

 Also, Zope 2.9 is out, if you had planned to make a Windows binary for
 that also.

At this point it's unclear what will happen for that.  Zope 2.9
switches from Python 2.3.5 to Python 2.4.2, and uses zpkgtools for the
first time to package the distribution.  Consequences include that the
code used to build pre-2.9 Zope Windows installers can't work to build
one for 2.9 too.  An unknown amount of new work is needed there, and
AFAICT nobody is working on it.
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.5 install

2006-01-09 Thread Robert Conner
Well color me purple, it does work.

I was just so used to seeing the Zope Ready to handle Requests
message that when it never appeared I just assumed it was not working
at all. I've broken Zope on my computer 100 times and always when its
broken it does not display Zope Ready to handle Requests. I won't
make any more excuses for myself here, they don't help anything. Man,
I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

Or another way (something I'd never do in real life, but I guess some
people do)
I always run Zope in the console. The only reason I even use the
Windows version is for development. As far as I can tell the fastest
way for me to stop and restart Zope if to close down the command
window and then start it back up again. When I develop, I restart Zope
all the freeking time, so the faster the restart, the better.

Sorry,
Rob Conner


On 1/9/06, Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [Robert Conner]
  Thanks for compiling that and setting up the windows installer.
  However, I don't believe it works. Sorry it took me so long to get
  back to you. I wanted to try installing this on a second computer
  before I wrote back. On both of them it

 What is it?  Please spell out exactly what you did.  The installer
 was tested on Win XP Pro SP2 and worked fine there.  I just downloaded
 it again, and had no problems:

 - Ran the installer, and accepted all the defaults.

 - In particular, accepting all the defaults runs Zope as a Windows service, so
   Zope starts automatically, and the installer brings up the

  Zope Windows Binary Post-Installation QuickStart

   page in a broswer.

 - I clicked on Zope Management Interface in that, and entered the admin
   password I gave to the installer when it asked for one.

 - I was then logged in to the ZMI, in a running Zope 2.8.5.

 I have no idea what you did, because you really didn't say ;-)

  starts the cmd window and displays the command called to run,

 Sorry, I'm not picturing what you did at all.  Needs more words.

  and then fails to finish the load up or start the server. Possibly it does 
  work
  and both of my systems are configured wrong, but I couldn't get either 
  install
  to run.

 So I'll try something else:

 - I stopped the Zope service (by using the Windows Services applet).

 - Opened a DOS box and cd'ed to the root of the instance home (\Zope-Instance,
   the default created by the installer).

 - Typed bin\runzope and hit ENTER.  This is exactly what was displayed in
   the console then:

 C:\Zope-Instancebin\runzope

 C:\Zope-InstanceC:\Program Files\Zope-2.8.5-final\bin\python.exe
 C:\Program Files\Zope-2.8.5-final\lib\python\Zope2\
 Startup\run.py -C C:\Zope-Instance\etc\zope.conf

 There isn't more output, and more isn't expected.

 - Waited a while ;-), then opened a browser and typed

   http://localhost:8080/manage

   in the address bar.

 - Once again I was then logged in to the ZMI, in a running Zope 2.8.5.

 Or another way (something I'd never do in real life, but I guess some
 people do):

 - Shut down Zope from the last try.

 - Clicked Start - All Programs - Zope 2.8.5-final - Run Zope In Console
   That should be the same as typing bin\runzope by hand as in the last 
 try,
   and indeed it worked the same way.

 Did you try one of those ways?  If so, which one?  If not, what did
 you try?  If you tried the third way and the goofy little DOS box
 vanished, try the second way instead.  You may get to see a relevant
 error message then.  Also look in your instance's var\log\event.log.
 If you're running as a Windows service, look in the Windows
 Application and System event logs too.  One particular problem when
 running as a service is that Windows Firewall will _not_ prompt you if
 it blocks a socket started from a service.  Instead the service hangs
 or dies.

  Also, Zope 2.9 is out, if you had planned to make a Windows binary for
  that also.

 At this point it's unclear what will happen for that.  Zope 2.9
 switches from Python 2.3.5 to Python 2.4.2, and uses zpkgtools for the
 first time to package the distribution.  Consequences include that the
 code used to build pre-2.9 Zope Windows installers can't work to build
 one for 2.9 too.  An unknown amount of new work is needed there, and
 AFAICT nobody is working on it.



--
Robert Conner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www-student.cse.buffalo.edu/~rtconner
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.5 install

2006-01-09 Thread Tim Peters
[Robert Conner]
 Well color me purple, it does work.

Good!  How could anything on Windows fail to work ;-)?

 I was just so used to seeing the Zope Ready to handle Requests
 message that when it never appeared I just assumed it was not working
 at all. I've broken Zope on my computer 100 times and always when its
 broken it does not display Zope Ready to handle Requests. I won't
 make any more excuses for myself here, they don't help anything. Man,
 I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

Not a problem:  if one person doesn't understand what they're seeing,
then at least a hundred more won't understand it either, and it's very
good to have a discussion about it archived on a public mailing list
then.

FWIW, I don't know why Zope doesn't display anything useful in the
console anymore, and I don't even know whether that's unique to
Windows.

 Or another way (something I'd never do in real life, but I guess some
 people do)

 I always run Zope in the console.

So do I, but there's difference:  I open a DOS box and type
bin\runzope myself.  What I never do is use the Start menu
shortcut.  A DOS box you open yourself stays visible even if Zope
dies ungracefully, and after the first time you type bin\runzope you
only have to hit two keys (up-arrow ENTER) to start it again.

 The only reason I even use the Windows version is for development. As far as 
 I can
 tell the fastest way for me to stop and restart Zope if to close down the 
 command
 window and then start it back up again. When I develop, I restart Zope
 all the freeking time, so the faster the restart, the better.

Doesn't the ZMI have a restart Zope button?  If you open your own
DOS box, then a sloppy all-keyboard restart dance is Ctrl+Break
up-arrow ENTER, and a careful all-keyboard restart dance is Ctrl+C
up-arrow ENTER.  The latter gives Zope a chance to close files
gracefully, but by the same token it takes longer for Zope to shut
down.  Ctrl+Break kills the process instantly (and runs some risk of
leaving data in I/O buffers without writing it to disk).
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:39:01AM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote:
 On 1/9/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 10:15:41AM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote:
   I am involved in maintaining a remote Zope site that is behind a
   firewall where I have no remote access.
  
   I have a (parallel) site that I use to test changes and upgrades that
   is accessible to me.  I am a looking for a straightforward way to
   package tested changes, send and have changes applied at the other end
   -- without my physical presence (there is a systems maintenance person
   a the other with reasonable broad systems knowledge but no in depth
   Zope experience). The changes in this case consist of changes to or
   new python scripts, dhtml methods and documents, or images spread
   throughout a hierarchy of folders on the site.
 
  Just to clarify the question:
  Your terminology (folders, dtml methods etc.) suggests (but not
  conclusively) that all the changes you are concerned with are to data
  that lives in the ZODB.  Is that true?
 
 
 Yes that is what I was implying.

OK. You might try ZSyncer (zsyncer.sf.net).

But you will need *some* kind of remote access to install it in the
Products directory.

ZSyncer won't do packaging for you; the UI it provides is intended 
for manually pushing changes from your development Zope to the remote
Zope. (or vice versa - it supports pull as well as push).

But maybe you could achieve more automation and finer control with a bit
of scripting.  You can also call arbitrary methods on the remote server
using a couple of new methods of the ZSyncer API (callRemote,
callManyRemote); this can be useful if you need to e.g. programatically
tweak some properties or security settings.

If you can't install ZSyncer on the remote Zope, you can transfer
objects the old way:  using Export / Import from the ZMI.
But even there, you need *some* kind of remote access in order to put
the .zexp file in the import/ directory of your Zope installation.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Paul Winkler
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:24:57PM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote:
 I considered Zsyncher a while ago -- the problem there though is that
 there are many things in the two sites that should not be synched --
 it seemed more of a synch everything kind of tool. Maybe I should look
 at it again. That would be a long term project though.

Sure.
ZSyncer only syncs what you tell it to sync.
One wrinkle is that if you want to sync only some contents
of a folder that does not exist yet on the remote side.
In that case you need to arrange to create the folder remotely
first.  ZSyncer doesn't handle that automatically, but the
callRemote() method may help if you want to script that kind
of feature for your application.
 
 Import/export via zexp doesn't really solve the problem of updating a
 smattering of files over the ZODB, unless I am missing something about
 using it. It might even introduce more issues than it solves.

Yeah, you'd still need to arrange to export / import the particular
objects (not really files) you're interested in.

If they're scattered all over, as it sounds like,
you're not going to find a ready-made solution. 
Only you know which objects you're interested in.
That's why I suggested that you may end up scripting something.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Applying updates to zope site

2006-01-09 Thread Brian Sullivan
On 1/9/06, Paul Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 12:24:57PM -0500, Brian Sullivan wrote:
  I considered Zsyncher a while ago -- the problem there though is that
  there are many things in the two sites that should not be synched --
  it seemed more of a synch everything kind of tool. Maybe I should look
  at it again. That would be a long term project though.

 Sure.
 ZSyncer only syncs what you tell it to sync.
 One wrinkle is that if you want to sync only some contents
 of a folder that does not exist yet on the remote side.
 In that case you need to arrange to create the folder remotely
 first.  ZSyncer doesn't handle that automatically, but the
 callRemote() method may help if you want to script that kind
 of feature for your application.


As I recall the reason why I stopped looking at it earlier was that it
only did push type synching (and as I am outside the firewall it
didn't really solve my problem). I get the impression that now will
allow a pull synching  as well so that I can from inside the firewall
synch to a site outside the firewall?



  Import/export via zexp doesn't really solve the problem of updating a
  smattering of files over the ZODB, unless I am missing something about
  using it. It might even introduce more issues than it solves.

 Yeah, you'd still need to arrange to export / import the particular
 objects (not really files) you're interested in.

Yes -- objects -- just have a hard time sometimes mentally changing
from paradigm to paradigm.


 If they're scattered all over, as it sounds like,
 you're not going to find a ready-made solution.
 Only you know which objects you're interested in.
 That's why I suggested that you may end up scripting something.


Yes they are scattered around.

What I would like to do is send a file (zexp like?) that just had the
various required  bits in it with an implied hierarchy and have the
import take care of the distribution to match the files/hierarchy. I
guess nothing like that exists?
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Fernando Lujan
2006/1/9, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I already install Zope 3.1.0 and try to copy the Data.fs.
 From where to where?

From /home/zope/zope2.0/var/Data.fs to /home/zope/zope3.0/var/



 But it
  produces a lot of erros. How can I handle this?

 Which errors?

Hi Andreas,

Thanks for the reply. :)

This behavior is intriguer since we only use DTML with logic and
stuff... Nothing special as our own products etc... We sure have some
products, but it should not crash the main system.

Oh, and now I tried now Zope 3.2.0.

2006-01-09T17:15:19 WARNING ZODB.FileStorage Ignoring index for
/home/flujan/tmp/zinstance/var/Data.fs
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File ./runzope, line 48, in ?
   run()
 File ./runzope, line 44, in run
   main([-C, CONFIG_FILE] + sys.argv[1:])
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/app/twisted/main.py,
line 74, in main
   service = setup(load_options(args))
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/app/twisted/main.py,
line 143, in setup
   notify(zope.app.appsetup.interfaces.DatabaseOpened(db))
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/event/__init__.py,
line 23, in notify
   subscriber(event)
 File 
/home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/app/event/dispatching.py,
line 66, in dispatch
   for ignored in subscribers(event, None):
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/component/__init__.py,
line 181, in subscribers
   return sitemanager.subscribers(objects, interface)
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/component/site.py,
line 89, in subscribers
   return self.adapters.subscribers(required, provided)
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/interface/adapter.py,
line 481, in subscribers
   subscribers = [subscription(*objects)
 File 
/home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/app/appsetup/bootstrap.py,
line 135, in bootStrapSubscriber
   db, connection, root, root_folder = getInformationFromEvent(event)
 File 
/home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/app/appsetup/bootstrap.py,
line 120, in getInformationFromEvent
   root_folder = root.get(ZopePublication.root_name, None)
AttributeError: 'PersistentMapping' object has no attribute 'get'
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Going to 3.0

2006-01-09 Thread Fernando Lujan
2006/1/9, Fernando Lujan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2006/1/9, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Which errors?

Hi Andreas,

Thanks for the reply. :)

This behavior is intriguer since we only use DTML with logic and
stuff... Nothing special as our own products etc... We sure have some
products, but it should not crash the main system.

Oh, and now I tried now Zope 3.2.0.

2006-01-09T17:15:19 WARNING ZODB.FileStorage Ignoring index for
/home/flujan/tmp/zinstance/var/Data.fs
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File ./runzope, line 48, in ?
   run()
 File ./runzope, line 44, in run
   main([-C, CONFIG_FILE] + sys.argv[1:])
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/app/twisted/main.py,
line 74, in main
   service = setup(load_options(args))
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/app/twisted/main.py,
line 143, in setup
   notify(zope.app.appsetup.interfaces.DatabaseOpened(db))
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/event/__init__.py,
line 23, in notify
   subscriber(event)
 File 
/home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/app/event/dispatching.py,
line 66, in dispatch
   for ignored in subscribers(event, None):
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/component/__init__.py,
line 181, in subscribers
   return sitemanager.subscribers(objects, interface)
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/component/site.py,
line 89, in subscribers
   return self.adapters.subscribers(required, provided)
 File /home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/interface/adapter.py,
line 481, in subscribers
   subscribers = [subscription(*objects)
 File 
/home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/app/appsetup/bootstrap.py,
line 135, in bootStrapSubscriber
   db, connection, root, root_folder = getInformationFromEvent(event)
 File 
/home/flujan/tmp/zope/zope3.2.0/lib/python/zope/app/appsetup/bootstrap.py,
line 120, in getInformationFromEvent
   root_folder = root.get(ZopePublication.root_name, None)
AttributeError: 'PersistentMapping' object has no attribute 'get'
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists -
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Strange ZEO related Tracebacks.

2006-01-09 Thread Dieter Maurer
robert rottermann wrote at 2006-1-9 05:45 +0100:
Some customer of ours created got after doing some edition in plone the 
following trace backs
which I have no clue what could be the reason.
Only a restart of Zeo/Zope did fix it.

We are using Zope 2.8.5 on linux

What could be the reason for this?

Looks like a bug in ZEO ClientCache handling.

File a bug report.

-- 
Dieter
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.5 install

2006-01-09 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
 FWIW, I don't know why Zope doesn't display anything useful in the
 console anymore, and I don't even know whether that's unique to
 Windows.

Standard output is not a debug/error output.
runzope both in Windows or Linux gives what you need.
-- 
A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source  GPL).
Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better.
http://www.cps-project.org for downloads  documentation.
Free hosting of CPS groupware: http://www.objectis.org.

___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] installing zope in a web hosted environment

2006-01-09 Thread Gabriel Genellina

At Sunday 8/1/2006 11:47, Daniel Gross wrote:

Thank you for your reply. Actually, i first installed and configured 
plone/zope on a local server at home. Due to problems with dynamic ip 
mapping i decided to move it to a hosted environment. It appears however 
that unfortunately i can't do it, unless i get a dedicated server, which 
is way too expensive for my resources and needs ...


Another option would be to keep it on your local server at home and setup a 
dynamic dns name (try http://www.yi.org/ or many others)



Gabriel Genellina
Softlab SRL 


___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


[Zope] Help me!

2006-01-09 Thread Bruno Grampa

Hello,
i'm building a site to sell images (this is the concept, the reality is
different...).
All the images are in a directory mapped through LocalFS product.
For every image i have a record in a SQL table with all the basic
informations: author, name of the file, cost.

What i haven't understood is how to block users from getting images if
they have not enough credit to buy them.
I need to control the view method, but i don't know if this idea is the
right one or there are better solutions.

Any hints?

Thanks,
   Bruno


___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Help me!

2006-01-09 Thread David H

Bruno Grampa wrote:


Hello,
i'm building a site to sell images (this is the concept, the reality is
different...).
All the images are in a directory mapped through LocalFS product.
For every image i have a record in a SQL table with all the basic
informations: author, name of the file, cost.

What i haven't understood is how to block users from getting images if
they have not enough credit to buy them.
I need to control the view method, but i don't know if this idea is the
right one or there are better solutions.

Any hints?

Thanks,
   Bruno





Bruno,

Maybe you can better explain your question. Im not at all sure the 
following will help:


Seems like you can check a users credit at login, store the credit score 
in SESSION and use that for branching logic.  You could also update the 
creditScore as it changes.


Then you can develope your pages with stuff like this:  (syntax not checked)

in TAL

a hRef=somewhere tal:condition=python:  
request.SESSION['hasCredit'];This link only shows up if session's 
'hasCredit' is true./a


In DTML

dtml-if SESSION['hasCredit']
a hRef=somewhere ...
dtml-else
 hRef=somewhereelse

In Python: (and TAL macros)

  if context.REQUEST.SESSION['hasCredit']:
return container.Images.macros['allImages']  
  else
return container.Images.macros['someImages']  


David





___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] Help me!

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 9. Januar 2006 16:04:28 -0800 David H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Maybe you can better explain your question.


...especially with such a sense-free subject as Help me.

-aj

pgpWZTTahPYXo.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


[Zope] CPU architecture and Zope

2006-01-09 Thread David H

Hi list,

Im just wondering what the wisdom is about Zope performance and various 
CPU types.  I'm running Zope on Linux (Ubuntu). I notice that Dell is 
selling  a dual-core Pentium unit.  But I have no idea if something 
like dual core  is advantegous to Zope, python execution or one's 
favorite RDMS.



Thanks,
David

___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope] CPU architecture and Zope

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 9. Januar 2006 21:38:15 -0800 David H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi list,

Im just wondering what the wisdom is about Zope performance and various
CPU types.  I'm running Zope on Linux (Ubuntu). I notice that Dell is
selling  a dual-core Pentium unit.  But I have no idea if something
like dual core  is advantegous to Zope, python execution or one's
favorite RDMS.




A single Python process also a multi-threaded Python application can never 
run on multiple CPUs. Multiple CPUs, cores etc. together with Python make 
only sense when you run multiple Python processes e.g. multiple ZEO clients 
or ZEO client + ZEO server. For standalone Zope instance dual-core  CPU 
give you nothing.


-aj


pgpejile6tjdd.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


[Zope] [ANN] TextIndexNG 3.1.4 released

2006-01-09 Thread Andreas Jung


I am pleased to announce the release of TextIndexNG V 3.1.4.

TextIndexNG V 3 is a complete new implementation based on Zope 3 
technologies and can be used both in Zope 2.8 or in Zope 3.


What's new?

- multi-field indexing and query support

- multi-lingual support

- configurable converters (through ZCML)

- new indexing API (allowing you to hook your custom content types with
  TextIndexNG through Zope 3 adapters).


Changes in V 3.1.4:

- fixed RTF converter

- fixed HTML converter

- improved ATFile adapter


Requirements:

 - Zope 2.8+, Zope 3.1+


Download:

 http://sf.net/projects/textindexng

Project page:

 http://opensource.zopyx.biz/OpenSource/TextIndexNG3


For installation and documentation issues refer to doc/README.txt from the 
archive. It's basically the same procedure as with former versions except 
you *need* to recompile the extension modules. Windows binaries of the 
required extension modules are currently not available (any volunteers?).


TextIndexNG V 3 is published under the ZPL.


Andreas Jung

   ---
  -   Andreas JungZOPYX Software Development and Consulting -
 -   E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Web: www.zopyx.com   -
  --- 




  -

pgp2QVdXa08Tf.pgp
Description: PGP signature
___
Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
(Related lists - 
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )


Re: [Zope-DB] User Authentication

2006-01-09 Thread Charlie Clark

On 2006-01-07 at 03:21:06 [+0100], Laurentiu Traineanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 When I change on the Security tab of the index_html method, the View 
 permission from Acquire to Authenticated I do receive the Login 
 Required page from domains/mydomain/acl_users and the Contents tab, DTML 
 method called docLogin (Login Page).
 
 If I enter the user name as caladmin and its password schi and click 
 the OK button ... the login page comes back over and over again. No error 
 messages are displayed.
 
 What am I doing wrong and how can I make it work? Please help.

It sounds like you are using XUF so you might want to direct your question 
there. XUF is configured to present you with the login page if you give the 
wrong details. You should check the error log for full details.

Charlie
-- 
Charlie Clark
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source
  Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...http://www.egenix.com/
  mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/
  mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/

2005-10-17: Released mxODBC.Zope.DA 1.0.9http://zope.egenix.com/

::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! 
___
Zope-DB mailing list
Zope-DB@zope.org
http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-db