Re: [Zope-dev] DTML tag creation.

2000-05-25 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
Bill Anderson wrote: I am about to dive into a custom tag, it will be a 'container' tag. I have seen the HowTo, and it really isn't that clear when you get to the container tag info. Can anyone provide a better rundown? Anyone have a custom tag they would mind sharing for perusal? Just

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCVS Mixin class... feedback sought.

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Spicklemire
Hi Jonothan, Thanks for the thoughts "Jonothan" == Jonothan Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good questions! You can just go to the 'admin' tab and type 'diff'. The admin tab lets you execute just about any cvs command with arguments stat, rtag etc etc.

Re: [Zope-dev] FWIW, ZCVSMixin now at 0.0.2... and rising. ;-)

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Spicklemire
Hi Michael, I need to put some verbage in the README about setting up the workspace on the filesystem to work with ZCVSMixin. No time like the present! ;-) Before you begin, you need to set up a cvs repository somewhere. This is described pretty well in the cvs reference:

Re: [Zope-dev] zpatterns: rackmountables must be of-wrapped

2000-05-25 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:56 PM 5/25/00 +0400, Jephte CLAIN wrote: When I don't wrap items like this, I get strange unauthorized errors. Only the super user can use the items. All the other users (Managers or not) can't. In normal usage, one only accesses a rack from or in a Specialist. Specialists wrap the

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-25 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:45 AM 5/25/00 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: Ah, ok -- I was planning simply to leverage the ZODB's facilities for maintaining persistent references in the DefaultObservable mix-in; more elaborate schemes would be possible (for instance to support rack-mounted observers?) Actually, just using

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-25 Thread Tres Seaver
Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll do both, this is absolutely a desperately needed feature in the ZCatalog. Currently, Cataloged items must take responsibility for notifying a catalog of their changes instead of the ZCatalog observing them. Amos and I talked about this over

[Zope-dev] zpatterns: win32 dll for DynPersist?

2000-05-25 Thread Jephte CLAIN
Hello, Has someone compiled the DynPersist dll for win32? if someone has done so, it would be glad to send me a copy by tomorrow. it will help me greatly. TIA, jephte clain [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Evan Simpson wrote: This exists! (sort of). ObjectManager.superValues accepts a list of meta_types, and returns a list of all objects of those meta_types which can be found in any ObjectManager in the current one's acquisition context. and has done for ages... the original Squishdot code

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
Evan Simpson wrote: In the case of Catalogs, much of the time we're probably not interested in cataloging "whatever lives at this path address"; At the moment this is true, but Jim and I have discussed the possibility of ZCatalog being treating the paths less atomically and more as a

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Michel Pelletier wrote: There allready exists such a thing, superValues([meta_type]). But I think this is too weak to use as a discovery protocol. An observable may not know or care what type of observer it wants to discover. Also, when it finds a number of various resources, catalogs lets

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Michel Pelletier wrote: At the moment this is true, but Jim and I have discussed the possibility of ZCatalog being treating the paths less atomically and more as a sequence of nodes from root to the target, this way, you could ask the catalog for all objects below a certain point that match

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Evan Simpson
- Original Message - From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] who's the CTO? Jim Fulton, Chief Technology Officer. use paths instead of object monikers. Why not do both? Have an POID (CORBA style) to actually identify an object and then use paths of POIDS to identify stuff in a

[Zope-dev] Proposed change in the authentication

2000-05-25 Thread Jim Fulton
I propose to change the order which a vacation in URL traversal or performed. See and comment at: http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZopeSecurity/ProposalToAuthenticateDuringURLTraversal Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director (888) 344-4332 Python

RE: [Zope-dev] another validation problem

2000-05-25 Thread Brian Lloyd
The latest CVS version is giving autorization demands (and failures) with this DTMLmethod. This kind of construct used to work fine. dtml-var standard_html_header h2dtml-var title_or_id dtml-var document_title/h2 p dtml-with "_.namespace(SUB=[1,2])" dtml-if

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed change in the authentication

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZopeSecurity/ProposalToAuthenticateDuringURLTraversal I wonder whether this would fix the following problem: http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/dev-archive.nsf/ByKey/82AE22A20C7E88AE What I reckon is happening is that HTTP is being dumb and

[Zope-dev] Ending up with a wrapped object through the web?

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I'm trying to import KM|Net News into the latest Zope CVS. I am unable to import the .zexp or XML files into the latest (tracebacks at the end). When importing the .zexp, I get an "Attempt to store a wrapped persistent object" error. This is really puzzling, because I'm not sure how a completely

[Zope-dev] Re: Proposed change in the authentication

2000-05-25 Thread Jim Fulton
Jim Fulton wrote: I propose to change the order which a vacation in URL traversal or performed. See Sorry, I meant "authentication", not "a vacation". :) and comment at: http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZopeSecurity/ProposalToAuthenticateDuringURLTraversal Jim -- Jim Fulton

[Zope-dev] ZSQL Methods

2000-05-25 Thread David Cooper
Using ZSQLMethods against an ORACLE 8.0.6 Database. I have two tables, each with a NUMBER(6) key field. If I create a method which selects against each of the tables then method returns an integer (e.g. 5040), as expected. select index_number from names where name = 'name' or select

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed change in the authentication

2000-05-25 Thread Ty Sarna
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose to change the order which a vacation in URL traversal or Good idea, we could all use a vacation :-) performed. See and comment at:

Re: [Zope-dev] another validation problem

2000-05-25 Thread Robin Becker
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes ... Does it work if you: dtml-with "_(SUB=[1,2])" ... /dtml-with and call the namespace directly? The two are supposed to be synonymous but your method is depricated so perhaps it works the other way, if not, I'd suggest

Re: [Zope-dev] Resource Discovery (was Observer / Notification Interface Proposal) Proposal)

2000-05-25 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 10:03 AM 5/26/00 +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: "Phillip J. Eby" wrote I would suggest that it ask for an interface, rather than a meta_type. Otherwise, you've hardwired yourself into a single object type with no extensibility. For example, an SQL method wants the nearest SQL connection,

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+[ Denis [Fr_re] ]- [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] | "J. Atwood" wrote: | | Stunned. Totally and utterly stunned. I would have thought there | would be Java floating around in Zope's bowl before Perl! Perl? | Jeeze...

[Zope] Re: ZOPE ITALIAN Mailing List

2000-05-25 Thread Marco Guidi
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Marco Mariani wrote: Sorry for bothering you. This is a one-time spam. A dozen people are being mailed in the back (blind carbon copy :-) I'd like to know if there's a need for an italian Zope list. Altough I'm OK reading or writing english, such a list could free

Re: [Zope] Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-25 Thread J. Michael Mc Kay
Well, let me see. I would consider giving the summer to working on Zope Documentation in Exchange for Zope School. That's right, I'm as much a newbie to Zope as that egg they are breaking in the Perl2Zope thread. But I live 20 minutes from Zope Headquarters.Fredericksburg, eh? I like

[Zope] problems with NTUserFolder.

2000-05-25 Thread Jay, Dylan
I can't seem to get your product to work the way I want. I'll tell you what I'm after and perhaps you can tell me where I'm going wrong or if indeed your product can do it at all. I have a group of users who are all part of the same domain as I am on. Its the department domain. I want to have

[Zope] ZWiki - how to dynamically add a page?

2000-05-25 Thread Lena
Dear Chris, Thanx a lot for your suggestion. Zwiki is indeed something very helpful to me. I've got a couple fo questions, though: 1. How can I dynamically add a Zwiki page? It says there: "To create a link to another wiki page, just write its name. (If you don't use a WikiName, you must

[Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Heiko Stoermer
Zopistas, Paul Everitt wrote: Digital Creations, creators of the Open Source Zope application server, announced today that it is teaming with ActiveState, a leading provider of Internet programming software, to make Perl a scripting language for Zope. [...] --Paul Paul Everitt

Re: [Zope] E-Commerce solution using Python and Zope.

2000-05-25 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
Jilani Khaldi wrote: Hi All, do you know about something written in Python Zope for e-commerce solutions? Etailer - http://e-tailer.adriot.net It's simple, but very nice. -- Itamar S.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope] M$soft

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Alexander
Henny van der Linde wrote: Basically: if all you want to do is just serve some data from simple tables with not more then 5 concurrent users you can pull it of with Access etc. There are well known problems with data corruption caused by multiple concurrent access to Microsoft Access.

[Zope] html-documents rendered incomplete

2000-05-25 Thread Cornelis J. de Brabander
Since I upgraded from Zope 2.0.1 to 2.1.6 I have a problem with html-documents that are added as files. What happens is that the text in the last HTML-element is cut of somewhere in the middle. Checking the source of the document shows that after the point where the text is cut off all text and

Re: [Zope] Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-25 Thread John Chandler
Based on the above figures, and assuming £500/day/person, it comes out as: £62,500 (roughly $100,000) ouch!Interesting.. .And if you write a book, how much will a publisher pay you [for example ORA 'Zope in a Nutshell']. ..and how many copies do you think ZIAN [Zope in a Nutshell]

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Paul Everitt wrote: Howdy gang. Below is an announcement that we'll start distributing over the next 24 hours. I wanted to let you folks see it first. In summary: Perl Methods. Why is this a good thing? ;-) Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Budi Wiyono
Agreed... We can use COM, CORBA, SOAP, etc. ~BDW At 05:19 25/05/00 -0400, Paul Everitt wrote: That's quite a strained metaphor. I'll be pretty unequivocal. Anyone that thinks we are lessening our commitment to Python (a) hasn't read the FAQ before reacting and (b) doesn't know us very well.

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Budi Wiyono wrote: Agreed... We can use COM, CORBA, SOAP, etc. On the other hand, we'll likely do even more things like this over the year: open up to COM, CORBA, etc. as method facilities. --Paul Now ya talkin :-) bring it on... Chris

Re: [Zope] M$soft

2000-05-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Luis Cortes wrote: Is anybody bold enough to try Zope with ODBC to an ACCESS database? Sure, nothing big's running here on top of Access, but Zope's definitely connected to Access through ODBC; no problem. The only problem actually is just Access' obscure error messages when developing.

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread John Chandler
Well, I can see good points here. Perl methods probably will attract more users. But I can see bad points, too. What if my perl developer resigned? Should I pick up his code? I don't want, I want Python. Should I I'm personally looking forward to being able to use Perl with Zope, so long

RE: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris McDonough
The only badness I can see coming out of this is this: At present, I can consult at a client who is running Zope, and I'm reasonably confident that I can read and understand all their code. When people can write their site half in Perl, I could well be stuck... unless I learn Perl :-)

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Kevin Dangoor wrote: People who are big fans of python aren't forced to use those Products, but I Very soon we'll be forced, 'cause most Products will be in Perl (yse, I've read the FAQ and saw "no Perl Products"; it's temporary, mark you). Oleg.(All

RE: [Zope] Cookies

2000-05-25 Thread Marcus Collins
-Original Message- From: Mabe, Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 May 2000 16:29 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [Zope] Cookies I am trying to create a cookie based on the value returned from a sql method. The following code fails with an invalid syntax error. dtml-in

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Stephan Richter
Well, I can see good points here. Perl methods probably will attract more users. But I can see bad points, too. What if my perl developer resigned? Should I pick up his code? I don't want, I want Python. Should I spent a lot of time manually converting his code to Python Method and debug

Re: [Zope] Moving the html_standard_header in an another folder...

2000-05-25 Thread Evan Simpson
- Original Message - From: Dan Rusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try this !--#var "Models.standard_html_header(_.None,_)"-- One important caveat to keep in mind here: If standard_html_header acquires any object or property that is meant to be context-sensitive (eg. it is defined in the root,

[Zope] Simple Directory of URLs

2000-05-25 Thread peter
I use your product called Simple Directory of URLs. (http://www.zope.org/Members/Roug/SimpleURLs) The thing is that I want to query for one more item other that Title, URL, Description and Section. I want to be able to add for example "Contact email" and "Alt. URL" and maybe more later. I don't

Re: [Zope] syndication??

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Webmaster wrote: The concept is simple enough, but I just don't know how I could do the same thing in Zope. I am setting up a system where daily articles can be entered weeks in advance and will only appear on the web site when the date matches their "go live date" (easy). But I would also

Re: [Zope] incosistant behaviour.

2000-05-25 Thread Tres Seaver
Curtis Maloney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I am experimenting with my first ZClass. I have inherited from Renderable, and XMLDocument. I have added a few DTML Methods, including a 'render' method. Testing has been all well and good, with pages displaying predictably when I hit

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Chris McDonough wrote: This is pretty silly. Very soon we'll be forced, 'cause most Products will be in Perl (yse, I've read the FAQ and saw "no Perl Products"; it's temporary, mark you). I have to say, I'm not convinced it is. Providing Perl methods is like drilling a hole

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+[ Chris McDonough ]- | This is pretty silly. I agree, it got silly about 8 hours ago. I don't think I've ever seen paranoia and religious fervour mixed in quite the same way before. Anyone would think that people think that python is inadequate

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+[ Chris Withers ]- | | This userbase gets into hacking the core and bring perl into there. | | Suddenly Zope is a total mess of perl and python and the whole community | shifts onto something cleaner leaving DC high and dry and spoiling a |

RE: [Zope] syndication??

2000-05-25 Thread Webmaster
Wow!!! ZScheduler sounds perfect! I'm assuming that it is the one that doesn't work. What is involved to make it work? With my limited knowledge of both Python and Zope, I don't know that I could be much help. However, I'd be willing to help out any way I can. -Jamey -Original

Re: [Zope] Re: ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Brad Clements wrote: [snip story about DC peddling drugs... *joke*] Yeah, fair point, but what if it goes the other way... cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: I find the whole 'perl will pollute us' mentality quite disappointing, it's worse than a bunch of school girls arguing over which all boy band is best. You never seen blokes arguing over which girl band is best ;-) I agree though since it's a moot point anyway.

Re: [Zope] syndication??

2000-05-25 Thread Dan L. Pierson
Chris Withers writes: Webmaster wrote: The concept is simple enough, but I just don't know how I could do the same thing in Zope. I am setting up a system where daily articles can be entered weeks in advance and will only appear on the web site when the date matches their "go live

[Zope] Relational DB Storage Manager for ZODB

2000-05-25 Thread Ivan
Greetings, I am interested in using a relational database (Solid, and possibly Informix) for ZODB object storage. I read the ZODB How-To, according to which development on a relational DB storage manager is taking place. However, I don't know what is the current state of this project, where I

[Zope] new to zope basic questions

2000-05-25 Thread Michael Douglass
hi, just started working through the zcmg document from the zope site have already found a question i cant answer. completed the first tutorial but my screen does not have such things as the control panel etc down the left side. i am wondering if i accessed the interface correctly. the

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread John Chandler
I find the whole 'perl will pollute us' mentality quite disappointing, it's worse than a bunch of school girls arguing over which all boy band is best. You never seen blokes arguing over which girl band is best ;-) It's a coin flip between Kittie and L7 IMHO, anyone who disagrees can

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
Chris Withers wrote: I have to say, I'm not convinced it is. Providing Perl methods is like drilling a hole through a dyke wall. By getting loads of perl programmers on board, you suddenly have a large userbase wishing they can do more in perl, so you implement perl products. (yes, I've read

[Zope] Using relational DB for ZODB storage

2000-05-25 Thread Ivan
Greetings, I am looking for ways to use a relational database (Solid, and possibly Informix) as a storage for ZODB objects. According to the ZODB How-To, development on a relational DB storage manager is taking place. However, I don't know what is the current state of this project, how I can

RE: [Zope] Using relational DB for ZODB storage

2000-05-25 Thread Chris McDonough
Ivan... Hi, It's a "grassroots" effort. Jonothan Farr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is heading up the project, and I'm helping. We've gotten a few prototype versions up and running using MySQL and Interbase, but I'd say we're a few weeks away from being able to release an alpha. You can get more

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Zope Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope Kevin

[Zope] AUTHENTICATED_USER.getUserName() not always truthful in ZWiki

2000-05-25 Thread Geoff Gardiner
I am using ZWiki and have modified a footer to show the current AUTHENTICATED_USER. It lies - occasionally but consistently. I am logged in as TestUser, and have a page footer that shows me as TestUser. I create a new ZWiki page by editing the current page and adding NewPage, then navigating to

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, 25 May 2000, John Chandler wrote: then educate people as to how to use YNPLOC in a way that matches the Zope philosophy. Ha, "educate people"! Educate people not to use Windows? Educate them at least not to be beaten by ILOVEYOE virus? Anyone succeede in this educating? It's not

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Kevin Dangoor wrote: I hadn't seen this one before. Since Zope is getting a Membership component, I think we'll need a good, solid way to send great big bunches of email to Members. I'm not sure if you've thought about this aspect or not. I believe it is a different function with different

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Shane Hathaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a previous posting about Netscape Image problems I mentioned a weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime(). I can reproduce the error within the python interpreter as follows- Python 1.5.2 (#5, Jan 6 2000, 17:10:24) [GCC egcs-2.91.66

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread andres
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 12:56:48PM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: Simple: DateTime has been using floating-point calculations. I believe all of that has been corrected, however, with the new DateTime module, available in the public CVS repository. Shane I don't understand how your answer

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Shane Hathaway wrote: Simple: DateTime has been using floating-point calculations. I believe all of that has been corrected, however, with the new DateTime module, available in the public CVS repository. And will be in 2.2? Chris ___ Zope

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Zope Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication) I think plain mailhosts will do the sending thing quite well,

RE: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread John Sutherland
--lots 'o' stuff snipped-- Here's my opinion.. Zope is a structure or enivronment.. The reason thet DC gives you the ability to create products is because they don't want to do it all themselves.. If they want to open it to Perl/Java/ etc, more power to them, more products for us to use.. The

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread mindlace
Zopistas, This argument is all very funny. Why is it bad to be able to answer someone when they say "i use this perl script on my site, I want to use it in zope"? I would personally like this for little regexp programs. What matters is that 90% of the old-school web sites use perl as their

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Dan L. Pierson
Kevin Dangoor writes: - Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Zope Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication) I think plain

[Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Roman Milner
Here is why I'm bummed about this. Like other people who have posted - after years of coding perl for money, I have vowed never to do it again. (I find that it produces encourages unmaintainable code.) Also, I think my main marketable skill now is Zope. So, were I to want to find a different

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
"Jeff K. Hoffman" wrote: Python 1.5.2 (#3, Mar 8 2000, 16:34:52) [C] on sunos5 Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam f = 1. f 2.0 int(f) 1 the int() function takes a different code path and returns 1, correctly. Forgive my

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
"Dan L. Pierson" wrote: The perfect solution involves a mailing list server integrated with Zope, e.g. ZMailman. This would probably also provide mailing list archives integrated with Zope and ZCatalog and easy integration of mailing list and PTK/Squishdot discussion traffic. This has been

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread andres
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 06:48:51PM +0100, Chris Withers wrote: "Jeff K. Hoffman" wrote: Python 1.5.2 (#3, Mar 8 2000, 16:34:52) [C] on sunos5 Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam f = 1. f 2.0 int(f) 1 the int()

[Zope] SiteAccess and Subdomains

2000-05-25 Thread J. Atwood
I am trying to get SiteAcess to work with a subdmain.. So I have added an empty SiteRoot in the /subdomain folder and added a DTML Method dtml-let hostname="_.string.join(_.string.split(_.string.split(HTTP_HOST, ':')[0], '.')[-2:], '.')" sitemap="{'subdomain.domain.com': 'subdomain'}" Do

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread andres
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 07:44:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: int() works fine (truncating everything behind "."): t.timeTime() == 953146937.0 0 t.timeTime() - 953146937.0 -4.76837158203e-07 int (round (t.timeTime())) 953146937

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Bill Anderson
Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote: Chris Withers wrote: I have to say, I'm not convinced it is. Providing Perl methods is like drilling a hole through a dyke wall. By getting loads of perl programmers on board, you suddenly have a large userbase wishing they can do more in perl, so you

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
"J. Atwood" wrote: Gang (and Paul), I guess my major concern (and mosts) would be that one of the reasons we like Python/Zope/OO is that it is not Perl and does not have all that quirky structure and if you introduce Perl into Zope it would be like throwing a pair of red socks in your

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
"J. Atwood" wrote: The real question is: Can we get all those Perl people to help with our documentation? :) I hope so. I, for one, will welcome my Perl brothers (actually sent the ANN post to two of them five seconds after reading it) and hope that together we can bring Zope to

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the python int doc string: print int.__doc__ int(x) - integer Convert a string or number to an integer, if possible. A floating point argument will be truncated towards zero. I _always_ get bitten by this :( Sorry for my igorance, Chris

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
Martijn Faassen wrote: J. Atwood wrote: Stunned. Totally and utterly stunned. I would have thought there would be Java floating around in Zope's bowl before Perl! Perl? Jeeze... what a great but very scary thing. I trust that DC will do it right. I'd agree with the scary part.

[Zope] Multiple Zopes syncronized?

2000-05-25 Thread Paul Abrams
Hi all, Any ideas on how to keep multiple Zopes synchronized? Here is the scenario: 1) I've got two Zope machines with identical ZODB's. 2) I want a method call on one Zope that changes its ZODB to also make the same change to the other Zope. 3) The number of methods that need synchronization

Re: [Zope] M$soft

2000-05-25 Thread Jonothan Farr
Here's a reference that dropped from Google when I asked "corruption concurrent microsoft access database" http://dgl.com/dglinfo/1998/dg980825.html (half way down page) I wouldn't use Access with Zope. Sounds like a bug in the Access UI not the underlying Jet DB engine. --jfarr

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Jeff K. Hoffman
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Chris Withers wrote: "Jeff K. Hoffman" wrote: Python 1.5.2 (#3, Mar 8 2000, 16:34:52) [C] on sunos5 Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam f = 1. f 2.0 int(f) 1 the int() function takes a

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Roman Milner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 1:48 PM Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed Here is why I'm bummed about this. Like other people who have posted - after years of coding

[Zope] Re: Perl and Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Tom Neff
As one of the original Perl Hackers I agree that this irrational Perl Hate Minute stuff is silly. To some extent language preferences are religious, but that doesn't mean we need a holy war! My response to the "I emigrated penniless from my home country rather than use Perl, now you want to

[Zope] monitoring Zope with daemontools

2000-05-25 Thread Dan L. Pierson
Frank Tegtmeyer writes: About two months ago there was a discussion about monitoring the Zope processes. Someone mentioned daemontools of Daniel J. Bernstein. Because I use daemontools for several other applications I tried it with Zope too. See my article at

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Eric W. Sink
Digicool's announcement of some Perl support for Zope obviously surprised a lot of people. I haven't seen much positive reaction here on the list. In fact, I daresay I have seen some concerns which I consider to be quite valid indeed. After all, a web developer who is a Python fanatic chooses

Re: [Zope] Count specific objects

2000-05-25 Thread Rik Hoekstra
In subfolder "ref_links" I have a another folder called myLinksandURLs (which actually is a product called URL Directory). In that folder (myLinksandURLs) there are a couple of objects called Simple URL derived from the product called URL Directory. I now want to count the number of 'Simple

[Zope] Re: ZWiki Problems on Zope.org

2000-05-25 Thread Simon Michael
Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martijn Pieters wrote: How did you get to that URL? It has 'NewUserPortal' in there twice. If I remove the redundant 'NewUserPortal/' part of the URL, everything works fine. Chris "d'Oh!"s quietly to himself and goes to hide in a corner... I think

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Roman Milner
"KD" == Kevin Dangoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KD I think Zope offers a ton of features that I wouldn't want to KD give up. (And I've been watching what the other servers out KD there are doing, and I still appreciate the power given by KD Zope.) I don't question at all that

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Hannu Krosing
Kevin Dangoor wrote: I haven't heard of anyone standing up and saying "I'm not going to use Linux, because people might write tools in perl [or awk, or C, or lisp, or sh, or yacc or postscript, or ...]" Perhaps that's a better way to look at Zope... not as a python web application, but as

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Dieter Maurer
Heiko Stoermer writes: Zopistas, Paul Everitt wrote: Digital Creations, creators of the Open Source Zope application server, announced today that it is teaming with ActiveState, a leading provider of Internet programming software, to make Perl a scripting language for

[Zope] Perl Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Adam Clark
Hope nobody minds a newbie perspective on this. I spent the last 4 years programming (and unabashedly loving) Perl, and I don't think adding Perl to Zope will attract a lot more people. The large scope of Zope and the similarities between Python and Perl mean that I've spent a whole lot more

[Zope] Calling PythonMethods from PythonMethods.

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Drees
How does one do this? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Ken Manheimer
On 25 May 2000, Roman Milner wrote: Well, my point is that I don't think you will be able to ignore it. Your boss will give you a product to maintain that includes someone else's perl code - sooner or later. Since it is "part of zope" and you clearly "know zope" you should be able to

[Zope] Architectural questions

2000-05-25 Thread Roberto Faria
Hi everyone, I have recently joined a small software development team in South Africa comprising of the best object people in the country. We have been tasked to build a financial supermarket using the numerous distribution channels including the web, fax, email, wap. I am currently

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Daryl Tester
"Eric W. Sink" wrote: After all, a web developer who is a Python fanatic chooses Zope for its underlying language. [Sh|H]e is unlikely to react warmly to the stench of Perl and the hideous possibility that a customer might develop the expectation that Zope and Perl expertise would go hand

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Roman Milner
"KM" == Ken Manheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KM I have some misgivings with this outlook. It sounds like KM people who seek job security by having expertise with a system KM that closes out unfamiliar options - whether the options are KM better or worse. I'm not in any way

Re:[Zope] A similar issue with Perl for Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Jason Cunliffe
Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Jon Udell wrote: BTW, there is essentially no difference between VBScript, JavaScript, PerlScript, or PythonScript when used at this level. All can make the same CreateObject call, and diddle

RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-25 Thread Michael Oas
Actually, I'd like to see Zope interface with "more" languages (Java, C++ etc.) There are a number of areas that Python performs poorly (I'd prefer to write encryption algorithms in C, personally) and there are areas where Python performs very well (OO modelling). I think if people are upset

RE: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-25 Thread Amos Latteier
I'm sorry, but I have to say, the ZOPE documentation, despite efforts to improve it, is absolutely, positively horrible. Not because the content isn't there, but because the tools to access it simply suck. I can type in searches on both zope.org and zdp.zope.org and though I KNOW the

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