[Zope-dev] ZWiki - how to dynamically add a page?

2000-05-25 Thread Lena
Dear Chris, Thanx a lot for your suggestion. Zwiki is indeed something very helpful to me. I've got a couple fo questions, though: 1. How can I dynamically add a Zwiki page? It says there: "To create a link to another wiki page, just write its name. (If you don't use a WikiName, you must

[Zope-dev] DTML tag creation.

2000-05-25 Thread Bill Anderson
I am about to dive into a custom tag, it will be a 'container' tag. I have seen the HowTo, and it really isn't that clear when you get to the container tag info. Can anyone provide a better rundown? Anyone have a custom tag they would mind sharing for perusal? Just trying to save myself

Re: [Zope-dev] DTML tag creation.

2000-05-25 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
Bill Anderson wrote: I am about to dive into a custom tag, it will be a 'container' tag. I have seen the HowTo, and it really isn't that clear when you get to the container tag info. Can anyone provide a better rundown? Anyone have a custom tag they would mind sharing for perusal? Just

Re: [Zope-dev] zpatterns: rackmountables must be of-wrapped

2000-05-25 Thread Jephte CLAIN
"Phillip J. Eby" a écrit : So: retrieveItem, createItem use vanilla objects retrieveItem and createItem are not intended to be public methods; the only reason they don't begin with an "_" is that I wanted to make it possible for them to be implemented as DTMLMethods or PythonMethods. you

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCVS Mixin class... feedback sought.

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Spicklemire
Hi Jonothan, Thanks for the thoughts "Jonothan" == Jonothan Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good questions! You can just go to the 'admin' tab and type 'diff'. The admin tab lets you execute just about any cvs command with arguments stat, rtag etc etc.

Re: [Zope-dev] FWIW, ZCVSMixin now at 0.0.2... and rising. ;-)

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Spicklemire
Hi Michael, I need to put some verbage in the README about setting up the workspace on the filesystem to work with ZCVSMixin. No time like the present! ;-) Before you begin, you need to set up a cvs repository somewhere. This is described pretty well in the cvs reference:

Re: [Zope-dev] zpatterns: rackmountables must be of-wrapped

2000-05-25 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:56 PM 5/25/00 +0400, Jephte CLAIN wrote: When I don't wrap items like this, I get strange unauthorized errors. Only the super user can use the items. All the other users (Managers or not) can't. In normal usage, one only accesses a rack from or in a Specialist. Specialists wrap the

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-25 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:45 AM 5/25/00 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: Ah, ok -- I was planning simply to leverage the ZODB's facilities for maintaining persistent references in the DefaultObservable mix-in; more elaborate schemes would be possible (for instance to support rack-mounted observers?) Actually, just using

[Zope-dev] another validation problem

2000-05-25 Thread Robin Becker
The latest CVS version is giving autorization demands (and failures) with this DTMLmethod. This kind of construct used to work fine. dtml-var standard_html_header h2dtml-var title_or_id dtml-var document_title/h2 p dtml-with "_.namespace(SUB=[1,2])" dtml-if

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-25 Thread Tres Seaver
Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll do both, this is absolutely a desperately needed feature in the ZCatalog. Currently, Cataloged items must take responsibility for notifying a catalog of their changes instead of the ZCatalog observing them. Amos and I talked about this over

[Zope-dev] zpatterns: win32 dll for DynPersist?

2000-05-25 Thread Jephte CLAIN
Hello, Has someone compiled the DynPersist dll for win32? if someone has done so, it would be glad to send me a copy by tomorrow. it will help me greatly. TIA, jephte clain [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Evan Simpson wrote: This exists! (sort of). ObjectManager.superValues accepts a list of meta_types, and returns a list of all objects of those meta_types which can be found in any ObjectManager in the current one's acquisition context. and has done for ages... the original Squishdot code

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Evan Simpson wrote: There are generally two ways (at least) to think about "object identifiers". You can think of them as unique labels for specific objects, without regard for location ("Jim Fulton") Me too... or as addresses or slots in which objects can be found ("the CTO"). who's

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
Evan Simpson wrote: In the case of Catalogs, much of the time we're probably not interested in cataloging "whatever lives at this path address"; At the moment this is true, but Jim and I have discussed the possibility of ZCatalog being treating the paths less atomically and more as a

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-25 Thread Michel Pelletier
Tres Seaver wrote: Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/Projects/Interfaces/Discovery Thoughts on how they relate? Are they the same thing? I think this pattern is orthagonal to the ObserverAndNotification pattern, but is crucial to making

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Michel Pelletier wrote: There allready exists such a thing, superValues([meta_type]). But I think this is too weak to use as a discovery protocol. An observable may not know or care what type of observer it wants to discover. Also, when it finds a number of various resources, catalogs lets

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Michel Pelletier wrote: At the moment this is true, but Jim and I have discussed the possibility of ZCatalog being treating the paths less atomically and more as a sequence of nodes from root to the target, this way, you could ask the catalog for all objects below a certain point that match

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Evan Simpson
- Original Message - From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] who's the CTO? Jim Fulton, Chief Technology Officer. use paths instead of object monikers. Why not do both? Have an POID (CORBA style) to actually identify an object and then use paths of POIDS to identify stuff in a

[Zope-dev] Proposed change in the authentication

2000-05-25 Thread Jim Fulton
I propose to change the order which a vacation in URL traversal or performed. See and comment at: http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZopeSecurity/ProposalToAuthenticateDuringURLTraversal Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director (888) 344-4332 Python

RE: [Zope-dev] another validation problem

2000-05-25 Thread Brian Lloyd
The latest CVS version is giving autorization demands (and failures) with this DTMLmethod. This kind of construct used to work fine. dtml-var standard_html_header h2dtml-var title_or_id dtml-var document_title/h2 p dtml-with "_.namespace(SUB=[1,2])" dtml-if

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed change in the authentication

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZopeSecurity/ProposalToAuthenticateDuringURLTraversal I wonder whether this would fix the following problem: http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/dev-archive.nsf/ByKey/82AE22A20C7E88AE What I reckon is happening is that HTTP is being dumb and

[Zope-dev] Ending up with a wrapped object through the web?

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I'm trying to import KM|Net News into the latest Zope CVS. I am unable to import the .zexp or XML files into the latest (tracebacks at the end). When importing the .zexp, I get an "Attempt to store a wrapped persistent object" error. This is really puzzling, because I'm not sure how a completely

[Zope-dev] Re: Proposed change in the authentication

2000-05-25 Thread Jim Fulton
Jim Fulton wrote: I propose to change the order which a vacation in URL traversal or performed. See Sorry, I meant "authentication", not "a vacation". :) and comment at: http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZopeSecurity/ProposalToAuthenticateDuringURLTraversal Jim -- Jim Fulton

[Zope-dev] ZSQL Methods

2000-05-25 Thread David Cooper
Using ZSQLMethods against an ORACLE 8.0.6 Database. I have two tables, each with a NUMBER(6) key field. If I create a method which selects against each of the tables then method returns an integer (e.g. 5040), as expected. select index_number from names where name = 'name' or select

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed change in the authentication

2000-05-25 Thread Ty Sarna
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose to change the order which a vacation in URL traversal or Good idea, we could all use a vacation :-) performed. See and comment at:

Re: [Zope-dev] XML to SQL or XML into tables

2000-05-25 Thread Dieter Maurer
Kent Polk writes: On 24 May 2000 07:20:00 -0500, Thomas Weholt wrote: Hello, Has anybody tried to somehow get xml-data into SQL-statements or in some other way use xml-data as datasource for insertion into tables? It shouldn`t be impossible, if we could just agree on some format or

Re: [Zope-dev] another validation problem

2000-05-25 Thread Robin Becker
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes ... Does it work if you: dtml-with "_(SUB=[1,2])" ... /dtml-with and call the namespace directly? The two are supposed to be synonymous but your method is depricated so perhaps it works the other way, if not, I'd suggest

[Zope-dev] Resource Discovery (was Observer / Notification InterfaceProposal) Proposal)

2000-05-25 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 10:42 AM 5/25/00 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: In our case, perhaps it needs to be:: def findNearestResource( meta_type ): which causes a walk up the containment hierarchy, searching for objects of the given meta_type. I would suggest that it ask for an interface, rather than a meta_type.

Re: [Zope-dev] Tranalyzer - the next step

2000-05-25 Thread Ty Sarna
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Morten W. Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if there are any spinoffs of tranalyzer, that can parse all the objects in the database and alter the contents of them. Modify them for what purpose? It seems like it would be easier to just do whatever

Re: [Zope-dev] Resource Discovery (was Observer / Notification Interface Proposal) Proposal)

2000-05-25 Thread Anthony Baxter
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote In our case, perhaps it needs to be:: def findNearestResource( meta_type ): which causes a walk up the containment hierarchy, searching for objects of the given meta_type. I would suggest that it ask for an interface, rather than a meta_type. Otherwise,

Re: [Zope-dev] Resource Discovery (was Observer / Notification Interface Proposal) Proposal)

2000-05-25 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 10:03 AM 5/26/00 +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: "Phillip J. Eby" wrote I would suggest that it ask for an interface, rather than a meta_type. Otherwise, you've hardwired yourself into a single object type with no extensibility. For example, an SQL method wants the nearest SQL connection,

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZCatalog and Unique IDs

2000-05-25 Thread Tres Seaver
Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Evan Simpson wrote: There are generally two ways (at least) to think about "object identifiers". You can think of them as unique labels for specific objects, without regard for location ("Jim Fulton") Me too... or as addresses or slots in which

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+[ Denis [Fr_re] ]- [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] | "J. Atwood" wrote: | | Stunned. Totally and utterly stunned. I would have thought there | would be Java floating around in Zope's bowl before Perl! Perl? | Jeeze...

[Zope] How to write Hello Zope! portal?

2000-05-25 Thread Jilani Khaldi
Hi All and be patient, I am new to Zope, After I have installed Zope on my Linux box and read almost all documentation, I can't find a little example how to create: 1- a single main page as I usualy do with HTML (index.html -- the main one); 2- how to call another page (page1.html) from the main

[Zope] Re: ZOPE ITALIAN Mailing List

2000-05-25 Thread Marco Guidi
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Marco Mariani wrote: Sorry for bothering you. This is a one-time spam. A dozen people are being mailed in the back (blind carbon copy :-) I'd like to know if there's a need for an italian Zope list. Altough I'm OK reading or writing english, such a list could free

Re: [Zope] Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-25 Thread J. Michael Mc Kay
Well, let me see. I would consider giving the summer to working on Zope Documentation in Exchange for Zope School. That's right, I'm as much a newbie to Zope as that egg they are breaking in the Perl2Zope thread. But I live 20 minutes from Zope Headquarters.Fredericksburg, eh? I like

[Zope] problems with NTUserFolder.

2000-05-25 Thread Jay, Dylan
I can't seem to get your product to work the way I want. I'll tell you what I'm after and perhaps you can tell me where I'm going wrong or if indeed your product can do it at all. I have a group of users who are all part of the same domain as I am on. Its the department domain. I want to have

[Zope] ZWiki - how to dynamically add a page?

2000-05-25 Thread Lena
Dear Chris, Thanx a lot for your suggestion. Zwiki is indeed something very helpful to me. I've got a couple fo questions, though: 1. How can I dynamically add a Zwiki page? It says there: "To create a link to another wiki page, just write its name. (If you don't use a WikiName, you must

[Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Heiko Stoermer
Zopistas, Paul Everitt wrote: Digital Creations, creators of the Open Source Zope application server, announced today that it is teaming with ActiveState, a leading provider of Internet programming software, to make Perl a scripting language for Zope. [...] --Paul Paul Everitt

Re: [Zope] E-Commerce solution using Python and Zope.

2000-05-25 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
Jilani Khaldi wrote: Hi All, do you know about something written in Python Zope for e-commerce solutions? Etailer - http://e-tailer.adriot.net It's simple, but very nice. -- Itamar S.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope] M$soft

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Alexander
Henny van der Linde wrote: Basically: if all you want to do is just serve some data from simple tables with not more then 5 concurrent users you can pull it of with Access etc. There are well known problems with data corruption caused by multiple concurrent access to Microsoft Access.

[Zope] html-documents rendered incomplete

2000-05-25 Thread Cornelis J. de Brabander
Since I upgraded from Zope 2.0.1 to 2.1.6 I have a problem with html-documents that are added as files. What happens is that the text in the last HTML-element is cut of somewhere in the middle. Checking the source of the document shows that after the point where the text is cut off all text and

Re: [Zope] Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-25 Thread John Chandler
Based on the above figures, and assuming £500/day/person, it comes out as: £62,500 (roughly $100,000) ouch!Interesting.. .And if you write a book, how much will a publisher pay you [for example ORA 'Zope in a Nutshell']. ..and how many copies do you think ZIAN [Zope in a Nutshell]

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Paul Everitt wrote: Howdy gang. Below is an announcement that we'll start distributing over the next 24 hours. I wanted to let you folks see it first. In summary: Perl Methods. Why is this a good thing? ;-) Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Paul Everitt
Denis Frère wrote: "J. Atwood" wrote: Stunned. Totally and utterly stunned. I would have thought there would be Java floating around in Zope's bowl before Perl! Perl? Jeeze... what a great but very scary thing. I trust that DC will do it right. Let's take up bets. In an egg,

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Paul Everitt
Heiko Stoermer wrote: All I can say for myself is this: I know several people - myself included - who moved from perl to python/java/c++ for many very good reasons. Don't blame you. You did the right thing, and nothing in this announcement changes that. On the other hand, hopefully this

Re: [Zope] E-Commerce solution using Python and Zope.

2000-05-25 Thread Veikko Wuensche
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 11:40:50PM +0200, Jilani Khaldi wrote: Hi All, do you know about something written in Python Zope for e-commerce solutions? EMarket simple e-commerce system http://www.zope.org/Members/sspickle/EMarket Veikko -- Veikko Wünsche [EMAIL

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread John Chandler
Paul Everitt wrote: Howdy gang. Below is an announcement that we'll start distributing over the next 24 hours. I wanted to let you folks see it first. In summary: Perl Methods. Why is this a good thing? ;-) Aww come on Chris, think positively. :-) I happen to like Perl, and

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Budi Wiyono
Agreed... We can use COM, CORBA, SOAP, etc. ~BDW At 05:19 25/05/00 -0400, Paul Everitt wrote: That's quite a strained metaphor. I'll be pretty unequivocal. Anyone that thinks we are lessening our commitment to Python (a) hasn't read the FAQ before reacting and (b) doesn't know us very well.

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Budi Wiyono wrote: Agreed... We can use COM, CORBA, SOAP, etc. On the other hand, we'll likely do even more things like this over the year: open up to COM, CORBA, etc. as method facilities. --Paul Now ya talkin :-) bring it on... Chris

[Zope] Re: problems with NTUserFolder.

2000-05-25 Thread Jephte CLAIN
"Jay, Dylan" a écrit : I can't seem to get your product to work the way I want. I'll tell you what I'm after and perhaps you can tell me where I'm going wrong or if indeed your product can do it at all. I have a group of users who are all part of the same domain as I am on. Its the

[Zope] Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-25 Thread Rik Hoekstra
snip The ZDP has "only" got the aim to point to existing stuff. Restructuring the existing docs is not our job. Maybe it should be? How about rebuilding zope.org as a generic 'Zope Portal' with the building and documenting work being done more by the community? (ie: integrating ZDP and

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread John Chandler
Agreed... We can use COM, CORBA, SOAP, etc. On the other hand, we'll likely do even more things like this over the year: open up to COM, CORBA, etc. as method facilities. --Paul Now ya talkin :-) bring it on... Damn, you beat me to it :-) This is cool, and gives me a good

Re: [Zope] Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
John Chandler wrote: ouch!Interesting.. .And if you write a book, how much will a publisher pay you [for example ORA 'Zope in a Nutshell']. ..and how many copies do you think ZIAN [Zope in a Nutshell] will sell ? Well, I for one would be at the front of the queue to buy a copy. In fact,

[Zope] Re: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation

2000-05-25 Thread Rik Hoekstra
-Original Message- From: Jerry Spicklemire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: donderdag 25 mei 2000 1:11 Subject: [ZDP] Re: [Zope] The agony of the ZOPE Documentation (forwarded from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Jason Cunliffe wrote: Perhaps you have a better

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
"J. Atwood" wrote: I guess my major concern (and mosts) would be that one of the reasons we like Python/Zope/OO is that it is not Perl and does not have all that quirky structure and if you introduce Perl into Zope it would be like throwing a pair of red socks in your white wash, we all go

[Zope] looking for a Zope Objects Architecture Model

2000-05-25 Thread Frédéric QUIN
Hello, I'm looking for a "Zope Objects Architecture Model" to start developing my own ZClasses... Thanks Frederic ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

Re: [Zope] Moving the html_standard_header in an another folder...

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Frédéric QUIN wrote: I tried to access to "html_standard_header" like that : dtml-var Models.html_standard_header but it didn't work... Try this: dtml-var "Models.html_standard_header" note the "" which make it into a python expression where your . will work :-) Chris

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
J. Atwood wrote: Stunned. Totally and utterly stunned. I would have thought there would be Java floating around in Zope's bowl before Perl! Perl? Jeeze... what a great but very scary thing. I trust that DC will do it right. I'd agree with the scary part. Scaaary. I hope DC will do it

Re: [Zope] M$soft

2000-05-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Luis Cortes wrote: Is anybody bold enough to try Zope with ODBC to an ACCESS database? Sure, nothing big's running here on top of Access, but Zope's definitely connected to Access through ODBC; no problem. The only problem actually is just Access' obscure error messages when developing.

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Chris McDonough wrote: Zope has DTML and Python, both of which will stay. Yes, this is my point, too. I think DTML became a little to much. I'd like to see DTML much less powerful, with all programming going to Python Products and Python Methods. Sheesh, it's like we'd

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Dan L. Pierson
Chris McDonough writes: Honestly I'm sort of surprised that there is such a strong reaction to this. When you talk about Perl for Zope, you're talking about three things: Perl through the web methods Perl external methods Glue code to make these things work properly I presume

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread John Chandler
Well, I can see good points here. Perl methods probably will attract more users. But I can see bad points, too. What if my perl developer resigned? Should I pick up his code? I don't want, I want Python. Should I I'm personally looking forward to being able to use Perl with Zope, so long

RE: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris McDonough
The only badness I can see coming out of this is this: At present, I can consult at a client who is running Zope, and I'm reasonably confident that I can read and understand all their code. When people can write their site half in Perl, I could well be stuck... unless I learn Perl :-)

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Alexander
Chris McDonough wrote: The only badness I can see coming out of this is this: At present, I can consult at a client who is running Zope, and I'm reasonably confident that I can read and understand all their code. When people can write their site half in Perl, I could well be

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Zope Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope Zope has DTML and Python, both of which will stay. You will have the option of

Re: [Zope] How to write Hello Zope! portal?

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
Have you had a chance to look at the Zope Content Manager's Guide? http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Guides/ZCMG-HTML/ZCMG.html This one steps you through creating basic objects in Zope... Kevin - Original Message - From: "Jilani Khaldi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Zope ML" [EMAIL

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Chris McDonough wrote: When people can write their site half in Perl, I could well be stuck... unless I learn Perl :-) I can see this being a genuine concern. That's the first I've seen (it's a good one). Further from this, I think diversifying the language base to

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Kevin Dangoor wrote: People who are big fans of python aren't forced to use those Products, but I Very soon we'll be forced, 'cause most Products will be in Perl (yse, I've read the FAQ and saw "no Perl Products"; it's temporary, mark you). Oleg.(All

RE: [Zope] Cookies

2000-05-25 Thread Marcus Collins
-Original Message- From: Mabe, Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 May 2000 16:29 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [Zope] Cookies I am trying to create a cookie based on the value returned from a sql method. The following code fails with an invalid syntax error. dtml-in

Re: [Zope] Cookies

2000-05-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, 25 May 2000, Mabe, Brad wrote: dtml-call "RESPONSE.setCookie('country_cookie', dtml-var cntry_cd)" Inside double quotes there is Python, not DTML: dtml-call "RESPONSE.setCookie('country_cookie', cntry_cd)" Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer)

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Stephan Richter
Well, I can see good points here. Perl methods probably will attract more users. But I can see bad points, too. What if my perl developer resigned? Should I pick up his code? I don't want, I want Python. Should I spent a lot of time manually converting his code to Python Method and debug

Re: [Zope] Moving the html_standard_header in an another folder...

2000-05-25 Thread Evan Simpson
- Original Message - From: Dan Rusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try this !--#var "Models.standard_html_header(_.None,_)"-- One important caveat to keep in mind here: If standard_html_header acquires any object or property that is meant to be context-sensitive (eg. it is defined in the root,

[Zope] Simple Directory of URLs

2000-05-25 Thread peter
I use your product called Simple Directory of URLs. (http://www.zope.org/Members/Roug/SimpleURLs) The thing is that I want to query for one more item other that Title, URL, Description and Section. I want to be able to add for example "Contact email" and "Alt. URL" and maybe more later. I don't

Re: [Zope] syndication??

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Webmaster wrote: The concept is simple enough, but I just don't know how I could do the same thing in Zope. I am setting up a system where daily articles can be entered weeks in advance and will only appear on the web site when the date matches their "go live date" (easy). But I would also

Re: [Zope] incosistant behaviour.

2000-05-25 Thread Tres Seaver
Curtis Maloney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I am experimenting with my first ZClass. I have inherited from Renderable, and XMLDocument. I have added a few DTML Methods, including a 'render' method. Testing has been all well and good, with pages displaying predictably when I hit

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Chris McDonough wrote: This is pretty silly. Very soon we'll be forced, 'cause most Products will be in Perl (yse, I've read the FAQ and saw "no Perl Products"; it's temporary, mark you). I have to say, I'm not convinced it is. Providing Perl methods is like drilling a hole

[Zope] Re: ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Brad Clements
"What doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger." - that nasty guy in the Fifth Element -- Personally, I think this is A Good Thing. -- The undisputed leader in programmer's narcotics on the east coast was the DC Gang, whose leader, master Zope, developed a bold plan for stealing

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+[ Chris McDonough ]- | This is pretty silly. I agree, it got silly about 8 hours ago. I don't think I've ever seen paranoia and religious fervour mixed in quite the same way before. Anyone would think that people think that python is inadequate

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+[ Chris Withers ]- | | This userbase gets into hacking the core and bring perl into there. | | Suddenly Zope is a total mess of perl and python and the whole community | shifts onto something cleaner leaving DC high and dry and spoiling a |

RE: [Zope] syndication??

2000-05-25 Thread Webmaster
Wow!!! ZScheduler sounds perfect! I'm assuming that it is the one that doesn't work. What is involved to make it work? With my limited knowledge of both Python and Zope, I don't know that I could be much help. However, I'd be willing to help out any way I can. -Jamey -Original

Re: [Zope] Re: ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Brad Clements wrote: [snip story about DC peddling drugs... *joke*] Yeah, fair point, but what if it goes the other way... cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: I find the whole 'perl will pollute us' mentality quite disappointing, it's worse than a bunch of school girls arguing over which all boy band is best. You never seen blokes arguing over which girl band is best ;-) I agree though since it's a moot point anyway.

Re: [Zope] syndication??

2000-05-25 Thread Dan L. Pierson
Chris Withers writes: Webmaster wrote: The concept is simple enough, but I just don't know how I could do the same thing in Zope. I am setting up a system where daily articles can be entered weeks in advance and will only appear on the web site when the date matches their "go live

[Zope] Relational DB Storage Manager for ZODB

2000-05-25 Thread Ivan
Greetings, I am interested in using a relational database (Solid, and possibly Informix) for ZODB object storage. I read the ZODB How-To, according to which development on a relational DB storage manager is taking place. However, I don't know what is the current state of this project, where I

[Zope] new to zope basic questions

2000-05-25 Thread Michael Douglass
hi, just started working through the zcmg document from the zope site have already found a question i cant answer. completed the first tutorial but my screen does not have such things as the control panel etc down the left side. i am wondering if i accessed the interface correctly. the

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread John Chandler
I find the whole 'perl will pollute us' mentality quite disappointing, it's worse than a bunch of school girls arguing over which all boy band is best. You never seen blokes arguing over which girl band is best ;-) It's a coin flip between Kittie and L7 IMHO, anyone who disagrees can

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
Chris Withers wrote: I have to say, I'm not convinced it is. Providing Perl methods is like drilling a hole through a dyke wall. By getting loads of perl programmers on board, you suddenly have a large userbase wishing they can do more in perl, so you implement perl products. (yes, I've read

[Zope] Using relational DB for ZODB storage

2000-05-25 Thread Ivan
Greetings, I am looking for ways to use a relational database (Solid, and possibly Informix) as a storage for ZODB objects. According to the ZODB How-To, development on a relational DB storage manager is taking place. However, I don't know what is the current state of this project, how I can

RE: [Zope] Using relational DB for ZODB storage

2000-05-25 Thread Chris McDonough
Ivan... Hi, It's a "grassroots" effort. Jonothan Farr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is heading up the project, and I'm helping. We've gotten a few prototype versions up and running using MySQL and Interbase, but I'd say we're a few weeks away from being able to release an alpha. You can get more

[Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread andres
In a previous posting about Netscape Image problems I mentioned a weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime(). I can reproduce the error within the python interpreter as follows- Python 1.5.2 (#5, Jan 6 2000, 17:10:24) [GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs- on linux2 Copyright

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Zope Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope Kevin

[Zope] AUTHENTICATED_USER.getUserName() not always truthful in ZWiki

2000-05-25 Thread Geoff Gardiner
I am using ZWiki and have modified a footer to show the current AUTHENTICATED_USER. It lies - occasionally but consistently. I am logged in as TestUser, and have a page footer that shows me as TestUser. I create a new ZWiki page by editing the current page and adding NewPage, then navigating to

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Oleg Broytmann
On Thu, 25 May 2000, John Chandler wrote: then educate people as to how to use YNPLOC in a way that matches the Zope philosophy. Ha, "educate people"! Educate people not to use Windows? Educate them at least not to be beaten by ILOVEYOE virus? Anyone succeede in this educating? It's not

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Kevin Dangoor wrote: I hadn't seen this one before. Since Zope is getting a Membership component, I think we'll need a good, solid way to send great big bunches of email to Members. I'm not sure if you've thought about this aspect or not. I believe it is a different function with different

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-25 Thread Steve Alexander
Andrew Kenneth Milton wrote: If the phantom 'perl userbase' could 'hack into the core' and put perl in there, why would they wait for perl methods to become available first? They would have implemented PerlZope long before this. http://www.bgw.org/projects/pas2/ -- Steve Alexander

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Shane Hathaway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a previous posting about Netscape Image problems I mentioned a weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime(). I can reproduce the error within the python interpreter as follows- Python 1.5.2 (#5, Jan 6 2000, 17:10:24) [GCC egcs-2.91.66

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread andres
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 12:56:48PM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: Simple: DateTime has been using floating-point calculations. I believe all of that has been corrected, however, with the new DateTime module, available in the public CVS repository. Shane I don't understand how your answer

Re: [Zope] new to zope basic questions

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Michael Douglass" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:04 PM Subject: [Zope] new to zope basic questions just started working through the zcmg document from the zope site have already found a question i cant answer.

Re: [Zope] Weird interaction between int() and DateTime.timeTime

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Shane Hathaway wrote: Simple: DateTime has been using floating-point calculations. I believe all of that has been corrected, however, with the new DateTime module, available in the public CVS repository. And will be in 2.2? Chris ___ Zope

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