[Zope-dev] Should zope.annotation.factory send ObjectAddedEvent?

2007-12-21 Thread Christian Zagrodnick
Hi, zope.annotation.factory is a very handy tool. I wonder if it should not send an ObjectAddedEvent when the annotation object is created. After all an object is added. But there is no (easy) way catalog those objects or do anything. If there are no objections I'll add this. Regards, --

[Zope-dev] Re: Should zope.annotation.factory send ObjectAddedEvent?

2007-12-21 Thread Christian Zagrodnick
On 2007-12-21 09:52:34 +0100, Christian Zagrodnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, zope.annotation.factory is a very handy tool. I wonder if it should not send an ObjectAddedEvent when the annotation object is created. After all an object is added. But there is no (easy) way catalog those

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Request typing (to get the xmlrpc layer discussion finished)

2007-12-21 Thread Christian Theune
Hey, Am Freitag, den 21.12.2007, 09:58 +0100 schrieb Christian Zagrodnick: Yes, what do others think? It's quite hard for me to do anything because the discussion is kind of nebulous. We have different to topics that need discussion/decision: a) There is breakage in publisher eggs for which

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2007-12-21 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Dec 20 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Fri Dec 21 12:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Dec 20 20:53:52 EST 2007

[Zope-dev] Re: five.customerize

2007-12-21 Thread Martin Aspeli
Martijn Faassen wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] So, what's the plan to clean up this mess? Can the Plone specific stuff be cleared up from the branches into a Plone-specific package and a new release be made that works for both Plone and the rest of the Zope world?

[Zope-dev] Re: Should zope.annotation.factory send ObjectAddedEvent?

2007-12-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Zagrodnick wrote: Hi, zope.annotation.factory is a very handy tool. I wonder if it should not send an ObjectAddedEvent when the annotation object is created. After all an object is added. But there is no (easy) way catalog those

[Zope-dev] Re: five.customerize

2007-12-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] So, what's the plan to clean up this mess? Can the Plone specific stuff be cleared up from the branches into a Plone-specific package and a new

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Request typing (to get the xmlrpc layer discussion finished)

2007-12-21 Thread Jim Fulton
Good job! :) I agree that this is really annoying. Really, this needs to get unscrewed. I'm skeptical that this is released in 3.4 since a dependency on an unreleased alpha egg is involved. Jim On Dec 21, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: I also have zero opinion about this

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Request typing (to get the xmlrpc layer discussion finished)

2007-12-21 Thread Chris McDonough
I also have zero opinion about this but I'll note as the dedicated whiner, that, delta some policy change, until this gets worked out, the Cheese Shop is broken for people who want to install zope.app* packages (and other related packages). A release of zope.traversing has a dependency on

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Request typing (to get the xmlrpc layer discussion finished)

2007-12-21 Thread Christian Theune
Hey, Am Freitag, den 21.12.2007, 12:32 -0500 schrieb Chris McDonough: I also have zero opinion about this but I'll note as the dedicated whiner, that, delta some policy change, until this gets worked out, the Cheese Shop is broken for people who want to install zope.app* packages (and

[Zope-dev] Re: five.customerize

2007-12-21 Thread Martin Aspeli
Tres Seaver wrote: That said, I suppose this should be either a conditional import or moved to a higher level altogether. - -1 to the conditional import; + 1 to moving the code. Agree. It seems to me it's also in the best interest of the Plone developers to have this cleaned up, right?

[Zope] ZPL and GPL: What should one consider when choosing a license?

2007-12-21 Thread Ross Patterson
Recently, someone wrote to me regarding one of my z3c packages which is licensed under the GPL. They asked me to license them under the ZPL saying that the ZPL would allow the widest range of use for those packages. They also implied that using the GPL impacted the licensing of other code that

Re: [Zope] ZPL and GPL: What should one consider when choosing a license?

2007-12-21 Thread Chris McDonough
On Dec 21, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Ross Patterson wrote: Unfortunately, the comment by Chris McDonough mentioned in the latter doesn't seem to be accessible any more. I'd love to read it. It said: I don't think Plone is bad because it uses the GPL. I do think it's a pain in the balls to have

Re: [Zope] ZPL and GPL: What should one consider when choosing a license?

2007-12-21 Thread David Pratt
Hi Ross. The ZPL is a brief and concise license. It is clear on providing attribution of authors and copyright. The other requirements it imposes are fairly minimal. Other than this, it permits the code to be used in virtually any manner. The components in the Zope repository upon which Zope

[Zope] Re: ZPL and GPL: What should one consider when choosing a license?

2007-12-21 Thread Ross Patterson
Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Dec 21, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Ross Patterson wrote: Unfortunately, the comment by Chris McDonough mentioned in the latter doesn't seem to be accessible any more. I'd love to read it. It said: I don't think Plone is bad because it uses the GPL. I

[Zope] Re: ZPL and GPL: What should one consider when choosing a license?

2007-12-21 Thread Ross Patterson
David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In relation to Chris's post, my understanding of the Zope repository is that a committer is required to sign an agreement with Zope Corp or ZF. This requires the code to be licensed as ZPL with 50% of intellectual rights to Zope Corp or ZF. Hope this

[Zope] Re: ZPL and GPL: What should one consider when choosing a license?

2007-12-21 Thread Ricardo Newbery
On Dec 21, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Ross Patterson wrote: [snip some stuff about GPL versus ZPL] Guys... please don't crosspost. It's hard to follow a thread like this when it gets fragmented across different lists. If you feel the need to solicit advice from multiple communities then IMHO

[Zope] Re: ZPL and GPL: What should one consider when choosing a license?

2007-12-21 Thread Ricardo Newbery
On Dec 21, 2007, at 9:48 PM, Alex Turner wrote: au contraire - it is the ZPL which is anti-sharing in my estimation. You do not have to contribute changes back to a project which you extend in a BSD style license, so you can take a BSD style licensed product, extend it, and sell it