[Zope-dev] Zope Tests:

2008-02-26 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
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[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] I think the explicit versus implicit discussion has no place here. Placing a package on the 'develop' line is a very explicit action, and you place it on that line because you want to *develop on it*. Having another package being picked

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Martijn Faassen schrieb: Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] I think the explicit versus implicit discussion has no place here. Placing a package on the 'develop' line is a very explicit action, and you place it on that line because you want to *develop on it*.

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
David Pratt wrote: Hi Martijn. I respect the points you make, but disagree with your comments. Wichert's reply accurately articulates what we are asking buildout to do. I share this view. It's not very useful to talk about a we asking buildout to do things when there is clearly a debate and

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] It's a clear DRY violation, the name of the package (and even the version number) repeats here. It's not clear to me that it's a DRY violation (see my argument that those functions are actually orthogonal). The rule for the most

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] It's a clear DRY violation, the name of the package (and even the version number) repeats here. It's not clear to me that it's a DRY violation (see my argument that those functions are actually

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Fred Drake
[Originally sent to Martin only; meant to send to the list.] On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile, you're satisfied already with actually looking at setup.py of the develop package and then repeating the version number *too*. It's

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Martijn Faassen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] It's a clear DRY violation, the name of the package (and even the version number) repeats here. It's not clear to me that it's a DRY violation (see my argument that those

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Martijn Faassen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] It's a clear DRY violation, the name of the package (and even the version number) repeats here. It's not clear to me that it's a DRY

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Christophe Combelles
Martijn Faassen a écrit : (...) I think the term 'develop' is badly chosen. You are right if you argue while having the meaning of 'develop' in mind. You are explaining what you think a 'develop' option should be. A 'develop' option means: I want to 'develop' on this package, so I want it

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Christophe Combelles wrote: Martijn Faassen a écrit : (...) The two easiest choices are 1) issue a clear warning in stderr, or 2) rename 'develop' to something else. So, the people that understand either get spammed with warning messages every build, or

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Theune wrote: [snip] Nope. I'm not always working against a fixed version list. E.g. when I developt z3c.zalchemy then this is a library package, not an application, so I don't fix the versions but let anything that satisfies the the requirements in setup.py come in. This thread is

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Christophe Combelles
Aaron Lehmann a écrit : On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Christophe Combelles wrote: Martijn Faassen a écrit : (...) The two easiest choices are 1) issue a clear warning in stderr, or 2) rename 'develop' to something else. So, the people that understand either get spammed with warning

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Aaron Lehmann wrote: On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Christophe Combelles wrote: Martijn Faassen a écrit : (...) The two easiest choices are 1) issue a clear warning in stderr, or 2) rename 'develop' to something else. So, the people that understand either get spammed with warning messages

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Thanks everybody for this discussion. I'm going to bail out now, and I want to share some of my conclusions: * We're going to have to live with the current 'versions/develop' story for a while. I've started try to document the existing behavior in buildout's doctests (faassen-develop)

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Feb 26, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Aaron Lehmann wrote: On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Christophe Combelles wrote: Martijn Faassen a écrit : (...) The two easiest choices are 1) issue a clear warning in stderr, or 2) rename 'develop' to something else. So, the people

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Martijn Faassen schrieb: Christian Theune wrote: [snip] Nope. I'm not always working against a fixed version list. E.g. when I developt z3c.zalchemy then this is a library package, not an application, so I don't fix the versions but let anything that satisfies the the requirements in

Re: [Zope] Acquisition / proxying object

2008-02-26 Thread Peter Sabaini
On Monday 25 February 2008 23:52:26 Joerg Baach wrote: Hi *, But somehow I have the feeling it has more to do with the 'and the container is not wrapped' part of the message. Not that I can make sense of it ;-) Mmm, after even more searching, and not understanding I found

Re: [Zope] Acquisition / proxying object

2008-02-26 Thread Joerg Baach
Hi Peter, acl = parent.unrestrictedTraverse(folder) when changing to acl = parent.restrictedTraverse(folder) I still don't get the Unauthorized exceptions. Anyhow, I will have to do a bit more wrapping, and then see if the solutions survive the security testing ;-) Cheers,

[Zope] 2.10 and ZClasses

2008-02-26 Thread Allen Schmidt Sr.
We are still running 2.7.5 but really want to upgrade. Changes.txt in 2.10.5 state ZClasses are deprecated. CAN they still be used?? Not at all or just not recommended and why? What is the highest version we can safely upgrade to then? Thanks Allen

Re: [Zope] Acquisition / proxying object

2008-02-26 Thread Peter Bengtsson
This is maybe a naive suggestion but if Zope's TTW execution (e.g. Python Scripts) can't find a __roles__ on the object at hand doesn't that just mean that the class wasn't initialized with any security. class LDAPProxy(Folder): ... from Globals import InitializeClass

[Zope] Need Server

2008-02-26 Thread Victor Subervi
Hi: I am out of business and I need someone to host a client's site (for which they will obviously pay). Requires Zope 2.78 and ZMySQL. Have everything you need. I would need to get into the ZMI to set things up, but don't need server access. Please write me off-list. TIA, Victor

Re: [Zope] 2.10 and ZClasses

2008-02-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. Februar 2008 07:30:04 -0500 Allen Schmidt Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are still running 2.7.5 but really want to upgrade. Changes.txt in 2.10.5 state ZClasses are deprecated. Deprecated means: they are still working (or at least they should). -aj pgpuaxUvcwh84.pgp

Re: [Zope] 2.10 and ZClasses

2008-02-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. Februar 2008 09:46:31 -0500 Allen Schmidt Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone out there still using ZClasses on later versions of Zope?? Care to share any experiences? Off-list responses are fine. Please stay on the list. Such experiences are of public interested and

Re: [Zope] 2.10 and ZClasses

2008-02-26 Thread Allen Schmidt Sr.
Is there anyone out there still using ZClasses on later versions of Zope?? Care to share any experiences? Off-list responses are fine. Thanks! Allen Andreas Jung wrote: --On 26. Februar 2008 07:30:04 -0500 Allen Schmidt Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are still running 2.7.5 but

[Zope] Re: 2.10 and ZClasses

2008-02-26 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: --On 26. Februar 2008 09:46:31 -0500 Allen Schmidt Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone out there still using ZClasses on later versions of Zope?? Care to share any experiences? Off-list responses are fine.

Re: [Zope] Re: 2.10 and ZClasses

2008-02-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. Februar 2008 12:10:09 -0500 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: --On 26. Februar 2008 09:46:31 -0500 Allen Schmidt Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone out there still using ZClasses on later versions

[Zope] Re: 2.10 and ZClasses

2008-02-26 Thread Allen Schmidt Sr.
I understand and appreciate your responses. Finally got some things straightened out and after changing DA settings to point to real database servers (instead of localhost), and commenting things out that were calling unneeded parts, I am able to get our site up (on some pages) with

Re: [Zope] Zope 3 and Rails - a pragmatic and agile comparation (put the hype aside)

2008-02-26 Thread Tim Nash
Here is a follow up I wrote that fell off the list. The original poster probably thought he was posting to the zope@zope.org but I leave his id off just in case he didn't. I am reposting it here mainly because he makes several good points. -Tim I find zope's through the web editing it's worst

[Zope] Static adquirable resource

2008-02-26 Thread Garito
Hi! Some weeks ago Tres point us how to declare static resources with five You could create a configure.zcml file for your product and put some code like these: configure xmlns:browser=http://namespaces.zope.org/browser; browser:page for=* name=ZSmanage template=recursos/ZSmanage.pt