Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing.runner: protecting against rogue threads

2009-04-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Christian Theune wrote at 2009-4-3 08:45 +0200: ... I don't want to change the process structure: I only want to assure that the processes we start also quit. Then no objection from me. -- Dieter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] [Fwd: [Bug 343079] [NEW] Broken distribution (2009-03-15)]

2009-04-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2009-4-2 20:36 +0100: ... Personally, I evaluate such eggs in a sandbox, and then add them to the project-specific index once I'm sure that they work with the other software in the index: I don't use PyPI at all when building out production sites. That seems overly

Re: [Zope-dev] setting missing minimum version in setup.py

2009-04-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2009-4-2 20:42 +0100: ... KGS the concept is very easy to implement; you just make available on some URL a buildout versions.cfg, or you run your own package index. OK, the former I can see happening on an end-user project, the latter is just too much work. Tres has

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2009-4-2 21:29 +0100: Andreas Jung wrote: Andrew others have been working on this issue at the sprint. There is consensus that www.zope.org must be turned into landing page with some mission statement and then links to the related subprojects. The current zope.org site

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Source Code Repository

2009-04-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Marius Gedminas wrote at 2009-4-3 01:34 +0300: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 07:31:00PM +0100, Chris Withers wrote: So, svn.zope.org causes me pain at the moment: - it uses the bizarre svn or svn+ssh protocols, which I find annoying (ports blocked on routers, can't check with a browser, etc) +10

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2009-4-2 21:29 +0100: Andreas Jung wrote: Andrew others have been working on this issue at the sprint. There is consensus that www.zope.org must be turned into landing page with some mission statement

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 08:32, Dieter Maurer die...@handshake.de wrote: Because members put there content (product implementations) still usable? Absolutely right. In the long run that should probably be moved over to PyPI though. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista.

[Zope-dev] z3c.form - status of 1.9.0 and 2.0 (and a bug)

2009-04-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi, Today, I found a bug in ChoiceTerms: it will only bind the field if field.vocabulary is None, which breaks uses of an IContextSourceBinder. I thought to fix that in svn, but there's no 1.9.x branch, and 2.0 (trunk) is a very different beast. Tracking 2.0 trunk is not an option right now.

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 7 OK, 1 Failed

2009-04-05 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Sat Apr 4 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Sun Apr 5 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Test failures - Subject: FAILED (failures=2, errors=1) : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.1 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Sat

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Source Code Repository

2009-04-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Dieter Maurer wrote: Unless newer SVN versions improved on this: using different access protocols is hampered by svn:external as they were (still are?) required to be absolute urls (including the protocal). This way, the access protocol may change in between of a checkout (involving

Re: [Zope-dev] setting missing minimum version in setup.py

2009-04-05 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2009-4-2 20:42 +0100: ... KGS the concept is very easy to implement; you just make available on some URL a buildout versions.cfg, or you run your own package index. OK, the former I can see happening

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lennart Regebro wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 08:32, Dieter Maurer die...@handshake.de wrote: Because members put there content (product implementations) still usable? Absolutely right. In the long run that should probably be moved over to PyPI

Re: [Zope-dev] Constant values defined in interfaces

2009-04-05 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris McDonough wrote: Using an interface class for a constant container would often be handy but it might be an inappropriate use of interface classes. FTR, I do often put constants in an interfaces.py module at module scope (if there are more

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form - status of 1.9.0 and 2.0 (and a bug)

2009-04-05 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Martin, I think 1.9 is a definite candidate for bugfixes because it is included right now in KGS 3.4, that means it should be the stable on. 2.0 depends already on features of some packages of the trunk. (I asked also myself whether that's a good thing, because 1.9 is so ancient and 2.0

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Source Code Repository

2009-04-05 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 09:10:10AM +0200, Dieter Maurer wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote at 2009-4-3 01:34 +0300: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 07:31:00PM +0100, Chris Withers wrote: So, svn.zope.org causes me pain at the moment: - it uses the bizarre svn or svn+ssh protocols, which I find annoying

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.traversing/trunk/ Use applySkin from new location zope.publisher.skinnable

2009-04-05 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roger Ineichen wrote: Log message for revision 97754: Use applySkin from new location zope.publisher.skinnable instead of zope.publisher.browser. Changed: U zope.traversing/trunk/CHANGES.txt U

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.traversing/trunk/ Use applySkin from new location zope.publisher.skinnable

2009-04-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Tres Seaver wrote: Roger Ineichen wrote: Log message for revision 97754: Use applySkin from new location zope.publisher.skinnable instead of zope.publisher.browser. This change breaks older packages who might expect a 3.5.x version to have compatible dependencies: it impliictly

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 17:23, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: PyPI won't work for non-eggified products. Right, so they need to be eggified then, which is a Good Thing. :) I'm not saying they should be moved *now*. Just in the long run. If the product is still maintained and cared

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Source Code Repository

2009-04-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 17:48, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: This is a very good point I'd forgotten about.  However, currently the existing svn:externals all point to read-only svn:// URLs, and switching them to http:// would not change anything substantially. Nope, but switching

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tres Seaver wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 08:32, Dieter Maurer die...@handshake.de wrote: Because members put there content (product implementations) still usable? Absolutely right. In the long run that should probably be

Re: [Zope-dev] Constant values defined in interfaces

2009-04-05 Thread Chris McDonough
Tres Seaver wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: Using an interface class for a constant container would often be handy but it might be an inappropriate use of interface classes. FTR, I do often put constants in an interfaces.py module at module scope (if there are more than one related,

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form - status of 1.9.0 and 2.0 (and a bug)

2009-04-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Sunday 05 April 2009, Martin Aspeli wrote: I thought to fix that in svn, but there's no 1.9.x branch, and 2.0 (trunk) is a very different beast. I usually do not create a branch for a major version until it is needed. I then use the latest tag of that version and copy it to the branch.

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form - status of 1.9.0 and 2.0 (and a bug)

2009-04-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Sunday 05 April 2009, Adam GROSZER wrote: I think 1.9 is a definite candidate for bugfixes because it is included right now in KGS 3.4, that means it should be the stable on. I agree. 2.0 depends already on features of some packages of the trunk. (I asked also myself whether that's a good

Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2009-4-2 21:29 +0100: Andreas Jung wrote: Andrew others have been working on this issue at the sprint. There is consensus that www.zope.org must be turned into landing page with some mission statement and then links to the related subprojects. The current zope.org site

Re: [Zope] How to add existing folder in Zope

2009-04-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers wrote at 2009-4-2 20:22 +0100: Dieter Maurer wrote: SkinnedFolder (at least if you mean http://www.handshake.de/~dieter/pyprojects/zope/index.html#bct_sec_4.7;) makes CMFCore's SkinsTool available (without the need to use CMFDefault or portal objects). That might involve getting

Re: [Zope] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2009-4-2 21:29 +0100: Andreas Jung wrote: Andrew others have been working on this issue at the sprint. There is consensus that www.zope.org must be turned into landing page with some mission statement

Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 08:32, Dieter Maurer die...@handshake.de wrote: Because members put there content (product implementations) still usable? Absolutely right. In the long run that should probably be moved over to PyPI though. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista.

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-05 Thread Tim Nash
Thanks for this post Jürgen. You made me think of my agenda. My agenda is to promote Zope/Plone as a great way to create web applications that you also want to distribute as desktop applications. I have posted about this a long time ago but there is no reason for anyone on this list to remember,

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-05 Thread Tim Nash
Looks like gmail won't append a sig to a draft email. Anyway here is my sig. -- Tim Nash Lead Developer http://www.sanmateowaveforms.com Zope/Plone: distribute your web applications as desktop applications. Installs on mac and windows with one click.