Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)
Am 10.05.2011, 06:55 Uhr, schrieb Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com: Constructive criticism and feedback is welcome _now_. Hi Andreas, along with others I'd like to thank you and the team for taking the time to do this. The new site has a clear message and looks good - not sure if the Zope logo should be repeated three times on the front page (surely the word mark should not be part of The World of Zope) and there are some spelling issues dekade should normally be spelt with a c; Python can either be capitalised or written in quotes but not both... One thing that I think is missing on the resource page is a Products overview - PyPI isn't really suitable for someone wanting to see whether Zope (2) is suitable for them and despite what we now think about how to extend Zope, the Products do provide off-the shelf solutions for many situations; something that as developers we easily overlook. Something like the Plone directory, probably implemented as part of zope2.zope.org, but visible in the resources section. I suspect this means some kind of QS is required as only too many Products will no longer work with current versions of Zope and the onus must be with the Product author or maintainer. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:12, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: One thing that I think is missing on the resource page is a Products overview - PyPI isn't really suitable for someone wanting to see whether Zope (2) is suitable for them and despite what we now think about how to extend Zope, the Products do provide off-the shelf solutions for many situations; something that as developers we easily overlook. That's not really Products but full applications, like Plone and ERP5 etc. It might be an idea to have a listing for that, but that's not really to determine if Zope is suitable, but to brag of the nice solutions built with Zope. :-) //Lennart ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Haubenwallner wrote: On Friday, May 13, 2011 12:12:38 PM UTC+2, Charlie Clark wrote: Am 10.05.2011, 06:55 Uhr, schrieb Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com: Constructive criticism and feedback is welcome _now_. Hi Andreas, along with others I'd like to thank you and the team for taking the time to do this. The new site has a clear message and looks good - not sure if the Zope logo should be repeated three times on the front page (surely the word mark should not be part of The World of Zope) and there are some spelling issues dekade should normally be spelt with a c; Python can either be capitalised or written in quotes but not both... Thank you, typo fixed. We will replace the image with a better resolution and remove the quotes around Python. One thing that I think is missing on the resource page is a Products overview - PyPI isn't really suitable for someone wanting to see whether Zope (2) is suitable for them and despite what we now think about how to extend Zope, the Products do provide off-the shelf solutions for many situations; something that as developers we easily overlook. Something like the Plone directory, probably implemented as part of zope2.zope.org http://zope2.zope.org, but visible in the resources section. I suspect this means some kind of QS is required as only too many Products will no longer work with current versions of Zope and the onus must be with the Product author or maintainer. A products overview could be added, but would need a commitment to creation and maintenance of content. Agreed - this is something we could address later but it needs volunteers and especially commitment - something I am missing sometimes. Andreas - -- ZOPYX Limited | zopyx group Charlottenstr. 37/1 | The full-service network for Zope Plone D-72070 Tübingen| Produce Publish www.zopyx.com | www.produce-and-publish.com - E-Publishing, Python, Zope Plone development, Consulting -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQGUBAEBAgAGBQJNzS5hAAoJEADcfz7u4AZjbFILuwTr+f76/a7g/2+jCEv/9bwN 9guWrl01sYHF/crOpYBctCTHxIlwGrIkH75QOGB2G3X9WIGGpk0Gq6M744c+tA1g spa5dTYzljFo1IKUSQ59X5JtV2jWGENtUx8vExn9H5rM1gZOMME6lJLHnzexRyvC 5OMZtmYFLmDiUOgtWTeMx59UXW1xDkjLg3sbFMOcp/Nm7d82uNtp1ohKgIF7lI0H cIc1Xo3rVNqnm9BJ0Xp0LzMVWXhA5PriEomulrI3HJp6jMF7cdAU/rvfD9TVIEGR UVuQy3X/MElw4llMBqEijfC+cgo2yRO2Y+xM25iFFGIOfTC+SZHEmjWGS/L2ju+q qy6AtiKEtQjpS7vbdFyEnb3gsIyK48JcXFUAikLWbaY4+K9TQGbO2fUOay9S43K8 VoFw8sZuN4oYhRCTsjCQXI4Uk9Dx7o7tadrLGSmBX+/tVKBRDbntwqM5/KMn3nyg VdPymKs7eUWXRN+e7HMVlra9eVtFK/o= =uI2Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- attachment: lists.vcf___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 10, OK: 72
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [1]FAILED Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.7 slave-ubuntu64 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-May/040775.html [2]FAILED Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.7 slave-ubuntu64 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-May/040777.html I was unable to reproduce the segfault on my ubuntu64 box: - - % $ uname -srm Linux 2.6.32-31-server x86_64 $ cd /tmp $ svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope/trunk ... $ cd trunk $ /opt/Python-2.7.1/bin/python bootstrap.py bin/buildout ... $ bin/alltests ... Running OFS.tests.testCopySupportEvents.EventLayer tests: Set up OFS.tests.testCopySupportEvents.EventLayer in 0.094 seconds. Ran 14 tests with 0 failures and 0 errors in 0.041 seconds. Running OFS.tests.testCopySupportHooks.HookLayer tests: Tear down OFS.tests.testCopySupportEvents.EventLayer in 0.000 seconds. Set up OFS.tests.testCopySupportHooks.HookLayer in 0.092 seconds. Ran 14 tests with 0 failures and 0 errors in 0.044 seconds. Running Testing.ZopeTestCase.layer.ZopeLite tests: Tear down OFS.tests.testCopySupportHooks.HookLayer in 0.000 seconds. Set up Testing.ZopeTestCase.layer.ZopeLite in 0.000 seconds. Ran 218 tests with 0 failures and 0 errors in 3.967 seconds. Running Testing.ZopeTestCase.testZODBCompat.ZODBCompatLayer tests: Set up Testing.ZopeTestCase.testZODBCompat.ZODBCompatLayer in 0.002 seconds. Ran 18 tests with 0 failures and 0 errors in 0.026 seconds. Running Testing.ZopeTestCase.zopedoctest.testLayerExtraction.TestLayer tests: Tear down Testing.ZopeTestCase.testZODBCompat.ZODBCompatLayer in 0.001 seconds. Set up Testing.ZopeTestCase.zopedoctest.testLayerExtraction.TestLayer in 0.001 seconds. Ran 2 tests with 0 failures and 0 errors in 0.005 seconds. Running zope.testrunner.layer.UnitTests tests: Tear down Testing.ZopeTestCase.zopedoctest.testLayerExtraction.TestLayer in 0.001 seconds. Tear down Testing.ZopeTestCase.layer.ZopeLite in 0.000 seconds. Set up zope.testrunner.layer.UnitTests in 0.000 seconds. Ran 2368 tests with 0 failures and 0 errors in 44.260 seconds. Tearing down left over layers: Tear down zope.testrunner.layer.UnitTests in 0.000 seconds. Total: 2634 tests, 0 failures, 0 errors in 49.278 seconds. - - % No segfault. :( Maybe we need to wire in Victor Stinner's 'faulthandler'[1] on the buildbot machine which provokes the segfaults and see what we learn. [1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/faulthandler/2.0 Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3NZIcACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ5TsgCglSVUE+pUuy10YuubPH8/uMyU Ol0AoNsoH9ahtW0A5fW//I/TrmRUNX7L =ckrk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)
Great, GO TEAM! On 5/10/11 2:57 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: And just talk about 'Zope community has grown' instead of starting with Zope Corp. and the Zope community, which I think gives the impression the community is some kind of appendage to Zope corp, the driving force behind it all. While this was true 10 years ago, it isn't today. And Zope corp is a part of the Zope community, right? And we're not talking +1. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)
On 5/10/11 11:01 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: Please take a cup of coffee and relax. Bah, your suggestions conflict! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 10, OK: 72
This is the summary for test reports received on the zope-tests list between 2011-05-12 00:00:00 UTC and 2011-05-13 00:00:00 UTC: See the footnotes for test reports of unsuccessful builds. An up-to date view of the builders is also available in our buildbot documentation: http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/buildbots.html#the-nightly-builds Reports received Bluebream / Python2.4.6 64bit linux Bluebream / Python2.5.5 64bit linux Bluebream / Python2.6.5 64bit linux ZTK 1.0 / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit ZTK 1.0 / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit ZTK 1.0 / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 64bit ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.5.5 Linux 64bit ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.6.5 Linux 64bit Zope 3.4 KGS / Python2.4.6 64bit linux Zope 3.4 KGS / Python2.5.5 64bit linux Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-32bit-linux Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.4-64bit-linux Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.5-32bit-linux Zope 3.4 Known Good Set / py2.5-64bit-linux Zope Buildbot / zope2.12-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zope2.12-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zope2.12-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.7 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.7 slave-ubuntu32 [1]Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.7 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.7 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.7 slave-ubuntu32 [2]Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.7 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.4 slave-osx [3]Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.4 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.4 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.5 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.5 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.5 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.5 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.5 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.5 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.1-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.5 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.5 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.5 slave-ubuntu64 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.6 slave-osx Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32 Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64 Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.6 : Linux Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.6 : Linux Zope-2.13 Python-2.6.6 : Linux Zope-2.13-alltests Python-2.6.6 : Linux Zope-trunk Python-2.6.6 : Linux Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.6 : Linux winbot / ZODB_dev py_254_win32 winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win32 winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win64 winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win32 winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win64 [4]winbot / z3c.coverage_py_265_32 [5]winbot / z3c.rml_py_265_32 [6]winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_254_win32 [7]winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win32 [8]winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win64 [9]winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win32 [10] winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win64 winbot / ztk_10 py_254_win32 winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win32 winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win64 winbot / ztk_11 py_254_win32 winbot / ztk_11 py_265_win32 winbot / ztk_11 py_265_win64 winbot / ztk_dev py_254_win32 winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win32 winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win64 winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win32 winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win64 Non-OK results -- [1]FAILED Zope Buildbot / zope2.13-py2.7 slave-ubuntu64 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-May/040857.html [2]FAILED Zope Buildbot / zope2.14-py2.7 slave-ubuntu64 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-May/040859.html [3]FAILED Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-1.0-py2.4 slave-ubuntu32 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-May/040872.html [4]FAILED winbot / z3c.coverage_py_265_32 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-May/040844.html [5]FAILED winbot / z3c.rml_py_265_32 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-May/040843.html [6]FAILED winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_254_win32
[ZWeb] ANN: zope wiki edits now require authentication
Dear all, edit spam across the wiki.zope.org wikis, gradually increasing over the years, has reached multiple incidents per day, multiple days per month. Current cleanup procedures take too much time (and are not 100% thorough - spam remains in history) and I don't want to spend time developing cleverer defenses. Therefore, from today making changes on any of the wiki.zope.org wikis requires authentication (a zwiki username cookie is no longer enough.) This marks the transition of our wikis from those early, lowest- possible-barrier-to-entry wiki days, to the modern era of mandatory access control. :-/ Since there is no member management software in place to allow you to self-register, to get a login you'll need to either - ask an admin to make one for you. The current wiki.zope.org admin users are: Simon Michael, Andreas Jung, Baiju Muthukadan, Sascha Welter, Michael Haubenwallner, Fred Drake, Jim Fulton, Ken Manheimer, Kevin Teague. - use this generic login: zope, zope. The downside of using this a lot is that edit history will become less useful. Also, on wikis using the default skin (all but the zope3 wiki), to trigger a login prompt you'll need to manually visit some restricted url. Eg append /editform to any page, like so: http://wiki.zope.org/zope2/Zope2Wiki/editform I hope this will stop the spam, and not inconvenience editors too much. Please let me know if you have authenticated and still can't edit. If you are interested in improving this setup, doing any other maintenance of the zope wikis, or taking over as zope wiki czar - please step forward! I'd be happy to mentor and provide all needed support. Best, -Simon ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[Zope] AUTHENTICATED_USER
Please could someone tell me why AUTHENTICATED_USER was deprecated in favour of the python security module? A quick google says because it can be replaced..but this isn't really a good in depth explanation? If a request was manipulated to include another AUTHENTICATED_USER, wouldn't Zope just error out anyway? Cheers ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] AUTHENTICATED_USER
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/2011 03:36 PM, Richard Harley wrote: Please could someone tell me why AUTHENTICATED_USER was deprecated in favour of the python security module? A quick google says because it can be replaced..but this isn't really a good in depth explanation? If a request was manipulated to include another AUTHENTICATED_USER, wouldn't Zope just error out anyway? What makes you say that AUTHENTICATED_USER is deprecated? ZPublisher sets and uses the variable in the environment without any deprecations. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3NjKUACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ5RiQCfVWCiOZ7mmfkaZIYLv9JFQsF/ XtEAoJcqmxc9+4YBvzxTP23Sjq8fVhlN =MhRQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] AUTHENTICATED_USER
Hmmm, I just stumbled upon some deprecation warnings in a google for authenticated_user and that security getUser...equivalent should be used instead. Something like this - http://www.mail-archive.com/zope@zope.org/msg21432.html Quoting Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/2011 03:36 PM, Richard Harley wrote: Please could someone tell me why AUTHENTICATED_USER was deprecated in favour of the python security module? A quick google says because it can be replaced..but this isn't really a good in depth explanation? If a request was manipulated to include another AUTHENTICATED_USER, wouldn't Zope just error out anyway? What makes you say that AUTHENTICATED_USER is deprecated? ZPublisher sets and uses the variable in the environment without any deprecations. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3NjKUACgkQ+gerLs4ltQ5RiQCfVWCiOZ7mmfkaZIYLv9JFQsF/ XtEAoJcqmxc9+4YBvzxTP23Sjq8fVhlN =MhRQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-CMF] cmf-tests - OK: 4
This is the summary for test reports received on the cmf-tests list between 2011-05-12 00:00:00 UTC and 2011-05-13 00:00:00 UTC: See the footnotes for test reports of unsuccessful builds. An up-to date view of the builders is also available in our buildbot documentation: http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/buildbots.html#the-nightly-builds Reports received CMF-2.2 Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.6 : Linux CMF-2.2 Zope-2.13 Python-2.6.6 : Linux CMF-trunk Zope-2.13 Python-2.6.6 : Linux CMF-trunk Zope-trunk Python-2.6.6 : Linux Non-OK results -- ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope-cmf/ for bug reports and feature requests
