Re: [Zope] Representing rows from a ZSQL method

2000-05-19 Thread J. Atwood

Good and bad news.. There is no real "product" to do this.. but it is not at
all hard to do with Zope tools..

 For example:
 -Displaying an order on the web with the order header (consisting of the
 client name, address, ZIP, etc.) and the order lines with the products to
 purchase.

This is a combination of a ZSQL Method (to database of you choice) and
displayed using a DTML-IN tags. No biggy.


 -Displaying a list of invoices between two dates with several columns
 (Invoice date, amount, VAT, invoice number, etc.).

Same thing. Create another ZSQL Method that calls the list and display it
using DTML-IN to iterate over the list. Display the data you want with the
DTML or limit it in the SQL statement.

 -Displaying a price list of our products with several columns (reference,
 description, price, weight, etc.) and grouping the products by different
 criteria. For example inserting a row with the brandname of the next group
 of products or inserting a row of the product type.

Same deal.. same ease..

Take a look at http://fundraising.gotschool.com which is 100% pure Zope with
a PostgreSQL backend that serves up almost everything (90% of what you see).
I have about 25 ZSQL Methods doing the work for the entire site with lots of
database interactivity (reading, writing, updating).

Start with the ZSQL Guide some How-Tos, the ZDP and when you get stuck send
a message to the group here.

Enjoy,
J


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Re: [Zope] Q; Date / ZCatalog / Search

2000-05-22 Thread J. Atwood

I too have not been able to get this to work... anyone to help... please?

J

 From: Jørgen Skogstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 00:25:22 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Q; Date / ZCatalog / Search
 
 Kindest sir, 
 
 I have a small question I hope someone could share some wisdom
 with. I am not that familiar with the various objects available
 within the Zope framework yet.
 
 .. I have made a ZCatalog which works seamlessly for text only
 searches etc. However; I need to search on a date basis on the
 generated object in the ZCatalog.
 
 For now my "date" entry/column is [string] coded.. not "date"
 as would be apropriate? How can I use date .. and then make
 a search to get the last 5 entries in a table?
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/Zen/howto/AdvZCatalogSearching
 
 .. shows some possible ways to do this; but I can't seem to get
 them to work properly;
 
 dtml-comment Items modified in the last 14 days
 /dtml-comment
 dtml-in "Catalog(bobobase_modification_time=_.DateTime(date)-14,
 bobobase_modification_time_usage='range:min')"
 New item:
 dtml-var "Catalog.getpath(data_record_id_)"br
 /dtml-in
 
 .. does anyone have any information on how they have used this
 and gotten it to work? .. and might have an example or two? ;)
 
 What exactly does the various elements in the above example do?
 .. like "Catalog(bobobase_modification_time=_.DateTime(date)-14,
 bobobase_modification_time_usage='range:min')" ??
 
 .. mm .. any input? ;)
 
 Thanks in advance..
 
 Kindest,
 Jørgen Skogstad
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope concepts

2000-05-23 Thread J. Atwood
Title: Re: [Zope] Zope concepts


I intend
to build an intranet with zope...though it's not as simple as
that...I'd like 90% of the site to be password protected (giving
access to members of my company)...do I use acl_users for
this?

Yes or any of the other models (UserDB, etc)

I'd also
like parts of the site to be accessible (and maybe manageable albeit
minimally) by clientsDo I have to create a second user/access
model for this or can I use the acl_users to do this for me
too.

Yup. Create a role for them and limit that role.

I'm
having problems
 a. Making the acl_user stuff
work...I can either login as admin or not all.
 and b.
Getting to grips with the concept of the user/privs/access model in
acl_users

Create a user, give them a role and they will inherit all of the
access levels of that role. Create a new role and give that role
different access levels and you can manage it better through the
role.

It is not that much different than most user/group/role access
scenarios, in that once you get started using it and understand the
basic concepts it will all fit.

Remember that users inherit permissions from parent objects
which you can turn off if that model does not suit you.

J



Re: [Zope] installing products.

2000-05-23 Thread J. Atwood

in fact I never used a zope product from the zope site.
I downloaded the SiteAccess product. what do I have to do to use it???

I was about to just send you the installation instructions when I saw 
that they are pretty meager. Actually, very. (shame shame)

1) Go to your root Zope directory
2) Unpack (tar, zip) the file
3) Restart Zope

To use it consult http://yyy.zope.org/Members/4am/SiteAccess/info

The basics are you create a DTML Method in your Zope root directory 
and tell it about each of the folders and what domain name they are 
hosting and then in each folder you add a site access instance (from 
the drop down menu) with nothing in it.

J

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Re: [Zope] Zope Advocacy FAQ redux

2000-05-23 Thread J. Atwood

Shane,

The Advocacy FAQ is much need here is some help..

Benchmarks: http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html
Pro Zope Links: http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope.html
 
How the competition does it..
Tomcat User Guide: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html  (a really
nice start)
Enhydra Tour: http://www.enhydra.org/software/enhydra/tour/index.html

There are also some of the links at the ZDP.

Let me know if you need anything else... I am trying to get involved with
the Open Directory Project to get the Zope area cleaned up a bit and that
might help as well.

J

 From: srl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:48:11 -0400 (EDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zope Advocacy FAQ redux
 
 So, after poking around on Zope.org for awhile, I haven't found an
 Advocacy FAQ. Have I missed something? I hope not, because I started
 one. 
 
 This is a very rough draft, hacked together from memory. As such,
 it's quite likely inaccurate on some particulars, and most certainly
 incomplete. I'll be working on it more over the next few days. If
 you've got comments or additions, please email me and I'll credit
 you.
 
 To make the Advocay FAQ more complete, I'd love to hear: if you're
 using Zope in a situation where you had to get management buy-in,
 what convinced them? What objections did they have, and how did you
 counter those objections?
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/srl/advocacy_faq
 
 PS. this is my first try at any sort of public document for an
 open-source project. I'd love to hear criticism in email or onlist.
 
 
 srl
 -
 Shane Renee Landrum
 slandrum@cs.smith.edu
 
 
 
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[Zope] Feeling like a newbie.. document id if statement?

2000-05-24 Thread J. Atwood

Ok.. this is really dumb, but for some reason I can't get this to work.

dtml-if "id=='index_html'"

do something cool

/dtml-if

What am I missing? I tried it on a few pages.. nothing..

Thanks,
J
(duffus)

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Re: [Zope] HELP: problems with ZServer Medusa!

2000-05-24 Thread J. Atwood

Check the permissions on the var directory.

J

 From: Seb Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 19:04:00 +0100
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Zope] HELP: problems with ZServer Medusa!
 
 does /usr/Zope-2.2.0a1-src/var/z2.pid exist?  if not, touch z2.pid and try
 again.
 
 seb.
 
 Hi All,
 I have installed Zope on a Linux server (Slackware 7.0) apparently
 without problems; but, when I start the server with the command:
 ./start, I have in continuous this message error:
 --
 INFO(0) ZServer Monitor Server (V.1.6) started on port 8099
 Raceback (innermost last):
 File "/usr/Zope-2.2.0a1-src/z2.py", line 698, in ?
 pf=open(PID_FILE, 'w')
 IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
 '/usr/Zope-2.2.0a1-src/var/z2.pid'
 
 
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Re: [Zope] ZDiscussions and Zope 2.2

2000-05-30 Thread J. Atwood

What version are you using?

J

 From: "Cary O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:31:44 -0400 (EDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] ZDiscussions and Zope 2.2
 
 
 I can't seem to add a ZDiscussions topic any more.  I keep getting
 authorization failures.  Managers are allowed to all zdiscussion
 topics on the security page, though.
 
 Is this related to the problem with ZSQL queries and the new
 permissions scheme with 2.2?
 
 -- cary
 
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Re: [Zope] tree state cookie

2000-06-05 Thread J. Atwood

I don't think you can disable the tree storing a cookie. I must say though,
it is going to get harder and hard to find sites that don't use cookies. It
is doable, but not pretty. Cookies are good for you (if you eat them
sparingly) :)

J


 Howdy!
 
 I just recently got complaints from people visiting my web site. They
 have activated the "website wants to set cookie" alarm and they got
 lots of alarms when visiting my website. Since I never use any
 cookies it wasn't hard to find the cause: I wasn't aware that trees
 use cookies to store their state. Is there an option to disable this?
 (Cuz I don't want no cookies;)
 
 --Ragnar



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Re: [Zope] www.mysite.com/Members/someone

2000-06-06 Thread J. Atwood

Ian,

Make "Members"  a DTML Method and inside that method you call a ZSQL 
Method (made previously) that takes the parameter of 'userid=name'. 
Store the name of the member in the cookie and when the visit 
/members/ or /members/name it gets all the data from the SQL Database 
and publishes it any way you want.

Build any other functionality in the "Members" DTML Method to allow 
for /members/name/preferences or any other parameter you want to pass 
it. Just pick it up in an DTML-IF statement and do the rest.

Good luck.

J



The thought I had was that "Members" could be a SQL method which takes
"username" as a parameter, Ian then is passed in as that Username and the
necessary data is pulled from the DB. This is fine except that I still need
some other method to render the HTML page for delivery to the user and this
would extend my url to : www.mysite.com/Members/Ian/rendermethod.

The other problem with this is that it clutters the root with the Members
SQLMethod and the rendermethod DTML document. I might start adding more
URL's like : www.mysite.com/Members/Ian/preferences or
www.mysite.com/Members/Ian/pastposts and the "preferences" and "pastposts"
documents would end up in the root too. All these things belong in a Members
folder, not at the root.

I'm missing something important, I'd appreciate any enlightenment you could
bring to this.

- Ian.

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Re: [Zope] !--#var title-- = Zope ?!

2000-06-06 Thread J. Atwood

"Zope" is the name of the main folder so when you do dtml-var title 
you are getting that folder's title.

dtml-var title_or_id will give you the title or id of the object 
that it is within (DTML Document title or id). That is probably what 
you want.

J


At 1:53 PM +0200 6/6/2000, Jonathan wrote:
Hi all,

Don't know if this has been discussed before, but I am experiencing 
a weird problem with 'title' and 'title_or_id'; no matter what I 
specify as 'title' value, Zope returns 'Zope' (every page is titled 
'Zope')

Vanilla binary install of Zope 2.1.6, just started a new project. Any ideas?

Thnx
Jonathan

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[Zope] What is favicon.ico and why is it an error?

2000-06-07 Thread J. Atwood

I have a few Zope sites email me any error reports and both of the sites
(different machines) get this error about two or three times a day.

Traceback:

Traceback (innermost last):
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 151, in
publish
  File 
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/SiteAccess/ChangeBehaviors.py,line 124,
in traverse
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 249, in
__bobo_traverse__
(Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions)
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py, line 511, in
notFoundError

As it looks for this "favicon.ico"

Anyone seen this? It is happening on two different instatallations (2.1.4,
2.1.6) on RH Linux 6.1

Thanks,
J




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[Zope] ANN: ZUBB 0.3.2 (Zope Ultimate Bulletin Board)

2000-06-08 Thread J. Atwood

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/

A few bugs fixed. A few more features added. Almost ready for prime time.

Take a look and email me with your comments. If you are using it and would
like to be linked to as an "example" site please send me the url.

The idea is to make sure the release works and then submit it for cataloging
on Zope.org.

Thanks,
J


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Re: [Zope] ANN: ZUBB 0.3.2 (Zope Ultimate Bulletin Board)

2000-06-08 Thread J. Atwood

At 11:31 AM +1300 6/9/2000, Graham Chiu wrote:
How about default sorting the message threads so that the thread with
the most recent reply is at the top?

This would be possible but I think it would be confusing to the user 
(posts would jump to the top). See below...

And instead of just having the number of messages in a thread in
brackets at the end of the thread header, also include the last date, or
the number of new messages since the visitor last was at the ZUBB (
since you're using a persistent cookie )?

I would love to add the ability to include the "last viewed" cookie 
feature. I will add it to the future feature list.

The big thing on my plate though, is how to limit the amount of 
threads shown. Once you get beyond 100 or so I am worried about 
performance and download size. If anyone has any knowledge about 
limiting tree views that would be great.

Thanks,
J




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Re: [Zope] What is favicon.ico and why is it an error?

2000-06-09 Thread J. Atwood

At 9:43 AM +0100 6/9/2000, Toby Dickenson wrote:
The user wont see error; just the default icon in the favorites menu.

You are correct. They don't see the error but it still produces a Zope error.

  Add this to the many reasons that I hate MIE!

do you have a robots.txt, or are webcrawlers evil too? ;-)

This, on the other hand, does not product a Zope error, just is 
logged as a 404. It is also useful in keeping search engines away 
from certain areas of your site. The favicon.ico trick really has no 
use, no functionality, no deeming qualities. M$ also did it in a 
bitmap as opposed to a jpg/gif which makes it much bigger than it 
should be. It also tells the server that a user has bookmarked your 
site, which to some users might seem like yet another breach of 
privacy.

J




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Re: [Zope] Costs of implementation

2000-06-13 Thread J. Atwood

At 8:32 AM +0200 6/13/2000, D Swart wrote:
I am trying to motivate the use of Zope / Zcommerce, and to do this need
some timing ideas - Does anyone have thoughts on how long (man hours per
expertise) it took them to go from no Zope to (Zope + Steve Spickelmire and
Co's EMarket) and to a successful transaction?

 From 0 to Zope in under 6.2 seconds! :)

If you are totally new (no Zope in your blood) here is what I would 
expect. This does take into account that you know "something" about 
programming and variables and really good HTML as well as some server 
stuff (how to set up, IP addresses, shell scripts). I have put what 
it would take a Zopista in parenthesis (not me though, I only play 
one on the web).

1 day (1 hour) - Install Zope
1 day (done) - Download, print, read all guides and "howtos"
5 Days (2 days) - To get a basic site up and running. Log in, look 
and feel, tested, management, feel the power of Zope
1 day (2 hours) - Set up database backend and connect
5 days (2 days) - Build catalog system, Z SQL Methods, etc
2 days (2 days) - testing, testing, testing

This is very rough but should be around the amount of time. This does 
mean full "developing days" which are about 10-14 hours. I don't know 
about transactions so you might want to pad it a bit. I will say 
though, that once you get into developing with Zope you realize just 
how fast you can develop new products with it. It is an amazing 
working environment.

J

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[Zope] Selling Enhydra? Could they do this to Zope?

2000-06-13 Thread J. Atwood

https://www.releasesoftware.com/_lutrisstore/cgi-bin/pd.cgi?sources=source=
lutris09

I just came across this when surfing on /.  They are basically selling a
"boxed" version of Enhydra (a Open Source Java Web Application Development
Environment) and support.

I guess this fits into the Red Hat / Linux model but would it work for Zope?
Good? Bad? 

BTW: 2.0b1 is great. WebDav works well (although not sure what it gives
beyond FTP and the management interface). I have not done any benchmarks
but... might.

J


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Re: [Zope] Costs of implementation

2000-06-13 Thread J. Atwood

Well, if you added it all up I was talking about 96 hours of development (8
days x 12 hours) which is a lot to bring up a site in Zope. I agree it does
depend on the person but I have had graphics people once given a 10 minute
intro to Zope not only start playing around with DTML but doing quick
if/then statements. OO helps, and Python can help but some of things are not
exactly the same as Python and TOO much Python can hurt.

I wise man once said..

"There are only three timelines for programmers:

1) Something that can be done in 20 minutes
2) Something that can be done in a  day
3) Something that can be done in a year"

J


 From: Dan Rusch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:36:16 -0500
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: D Swart [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Costs of implementation
 
 I think that the timeline J provided is unrealistically optimistic. The amount
 of time it will take someone to go from 0 to Zope varies wildly. We have had
 developers come in and in a matter of a few days they are very productive.
 Others take much longer. Several things affect this. Someone to show you the
 ropes being primary. Previous knowledge, especially in OOP and in python or
 pythonish language, is also crucial.
 
 So how long depends on you. If you don't have someone who knows Zope and
 python
 expect to struggle up the near vertical learning curve of Zope. After helping
 to train several people on Zope I would recommend not reading any Zope
 documentation until after you understand python. In other words, learn the
 basics of python first. Know what a list, dictionary and tuple are and their
 syntax and operations and many of the mysteries of Zope will be cleared up
 (i.e. when do you need tics instead of quotes etc.). After garnishing a
 working
 knowledge (you don't need to be a Zen master of python) of python ,then read
 the Zope documentation and start working in Zope.
 
 Just my experience working with newbies.
 
 Dan
 
 "J. Atwood" wrote:
 
 At 8:32 AM +0200 6/13/2000, D Swart wrote:
 I am trying to motivate the use of Zope / Zcommerce, and to do this need
 some timing ideas - Does anyone have thoughts on how long (man hours per
 expertise) it took them to go from no Zope to (Zope + Steve Spickelmire and
 Co's EMarket) and to a successful transaction?
 
 From 0 to Zope in under 6.2 seconds! :)
 
 If you are totally new (no Zope in your blood) here is what I would
 expect. This does take into account that you know "something" about
 programming and variables and really good HTML as well as some server
 stuff (how to set up, IP addresses, shell scripts). I have put what
 it would take a Zopista in parenthesis (not me though, I only play
 one on the web).
 
 1 day (1 hour) - Install Zope
 1 day (done) - Download, print, read all guides and "howtos"
 5 Days (2 days) - To get a basic site up and running. Log in, look
 and feel, tested, management, feel the power of Zope
 1 day (2 hours) - Set up database backend and connect
 5 days (2 days) - Build catalog system, Z SQL Methods, etc
 2 days (2 days) - testing, testing, testing
 
 This is very rough but should be around the amount of time. This does
 mean full "developing days" which are about 10-14 hours. I don't know
 about transactions so you might want to pad it a bit. I will say
 though, that once you get into developing with Zope you realize just
 how fast you can develop new products with it. It is an amazing
 working environment.
 
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Re: [Zope] Does Zope support user authentication, sessions, etc?

2000-06-14 Thread J. Atwood

From the specifications given, my first thought is to implement it in
object-oriented way of programming. Zope (being open-source and OOP
from ground-up) naturally came to mind. Therefore, i would like to know
whether Zope is suitable (and stable enough) to develop this kind of
websites, bearing in mind other criteria such as scalability, performance,
and the "learning curve" involved.

Yes. Yes and steep. (scalability = ZEO, performance is good, learning 
curve a bit steep)

I have done programming in PHP before, and AFAIK to implement features such
as user-authentication, sessions and permissions in PHP, we can either write
our own libraries, or use PHPLIB. However, looking at PHPLIB, it seems to
be quite buggy, and require a lot of work re-writing for some of its
functions.
Therefore, I would also like to know whether there's any
authentication/session
management modules(or classes) already written for Zope, and if they exist,
is
it easy to implement them(as in as easy as plug-and play, or a lot of coding
required)?

Zope has its own authentication/session management built in. You will 
see this when you set up your first Zope and go to manage something. 
There are a few products out there that let you create better 
login/user management as well as some that you can connect to SQL 
databases or LDAP. A new product in the works it the PTK (Portal Tool 
Kit) that will have a lot of this built into it.

My suggestion: Start poking around Zope.org, read up on the stuff 
there and download and install Zope. That will give you a better idea 
of what you are dealing with.

J

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Re: [Zope] Help with Zope/Python Evangelism

2000-06-14 Thread J. Atwood

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope.html

My collection of articles and sites also study the case studies on
Zope.org as well as Zope Newbies.

J

 From: Joseph Santaniello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:17:13 -0700 (PDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Help with Zope/Python Evangelism
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I've been using Zope and Python in my own projects for over a year now,
 and I am convinced well beyond a shodow of a doubt that "Zope Is The
 Answer" and have used it for several of our internal applications, and use
 Python almost exclusivly for our scripting needs.
 
 Here's the problem:
 
 Our main outside vendor (whom all managment besides me are very happy
 with) has a new agenda for forward development: "Industry Standards" such
 as Delphi (for backend!) and other things I deem silly. So I need as much
 information as anyone is willing to share on Zope/Python implementations
 in as large/corporate a setting as possible.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Joe
 
 PS: I've seen all the listings on the Python and Zope websites, but I need
 more!
 
 --
 
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 Chief Technology Officer
 
 Westlake Financial Services
 4751 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 100
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Re: [Zope] ZDiscussions Problem

2000-06-21 Thread J. Atwood
Title: Re: [Zope] ZDiscussions
Problem


Hey Pete,

Your choices are really Confera (very old), ZDiscussions (semi
old and not supported), ZUBB (pretty new, but may not do what you
want), Squishdot (sounds more what you want) and waiting for the PTK
(may or may not have you want). I can only really talk about ZUBB,
though.

ZUBB is used as a object with all the messages in the object. I
have not heard of anyone successfully calling the index_html object
from outside of the folder (nor have I tried). The topic runs in its
own space and can be included as a part site by linking to it. (You
can probably do some counts of messages or other things from outside
the object though). If you are looking to have a discussion follow
every article/person/page Squishdot is your better bet.

J


At 10:54 AM +1200 6/21/2000, Pete Black wrote:
First up,
i'd like to whine a bit.

WHINE-MODE ON
Which product should i use to add a Discussion component to my
site?

Confera?
ZDConfera? ZDiscussions? ZUBB? Squishdot? PTK? Was the Zope 'Portal'
deliberately designed to obfuscate the choices available and their
respective pros/cons, as well as to make it practically impossible to
find useful documentation, or has it just happened this
way?

I'm just
about ready to give up on Zope and go back to hacking Perl, because,
even though i have to write 10 times as much difficult-to-read code
to get a job done, at least i know that the job is doable, doable in
a way that suits me, and that if there is a module to do what i want
to do, it will be findable and documented on CPAN.

WHINE-MODE OFF

I don't
like to whine, and i think Zope promises to be a great product, and i
am persevering with it because i think it will (once i get
implemetation out of the way) make me a great intranet. Many thanks
to the developers, you have, on the whole, done a wonderful
job.

Anyway, my
problem is this:

I have a
ZDiscussion set up in a folder (off the root folder) called
TMLDiscussion.

I want to
put the contents of the discussion in the index_html method of my
root folder.

So, i put
the following in my root index_html method:

dtml-with TMLDiscussion

/dtml-with

(normally
there would be code beteen those two tags to output a dtml-tree of
messages in the TMLDiscussion object)

Even with
nothing between the dtml-with tags, i get this
error:

Error Type:
NameError
Error Value: r

Whats going
on? And how do i display the discussion on my index
page?

Thanks for
any Help

-Pete




Re: [Zope] Newspaper site

2000-06-21 Thread J. Atwood

Powered By Sites:
http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope.html

and the best really..

http://weblogs.userland.com/zopeNewbies/zopesites/

You should find a good combination of content/newspaper sites there. 
Also take a look at the KM news product.

http://www.zope.org/Members/taz/kmnn

Good luck,

JMA

At 12:13 PM +0200 6/21/2000, Wesley Anderson wrote:
Hi all,

I'm just wondering if there are any newspaper/magazine sites out there that
are using ZOPE for content management and subscriber management. I wouldn't
think it would be suitable, but what do you think of using Squishdot for
this purpose? Also, is there a list of "powered by" sites on zope.org?

I'm doing a site that has both public and private content - hence the need
for subscriber-based access.


Thanks much


Wesley


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[Zope] Local File System (LocalFS) install problems

2000-06-21 Thread J. Atwood

(I have searched the newsgroups and zope.org)

I downloaded and installed LocalFS (untar in zope dir) restarted Zope (2.1.6
on Linux running as Nobody). The Local File System is an available object
but when I try to add it to any folder I get..

Error Type: IOError Error Value: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LocalFS/methodAdd.dtml'


And:
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 214, in
publish_module
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 179, in
publish
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 202, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 165, in
publish
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
(Object: methodAdd)
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 102, in
call_object
(Object: methodAdd)
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/App/special_dtml.py, line 120, in __call__
(Object: methodAdd)
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 443,
in __call__
(Object: methodAdd)
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 381,
in cook
(Object: methodAdd)
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 374,
in read
(Object: methodAdd)
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 538,
in read_raw
(Object: methodAdd)
IOError: (see above)


I tried changing some of the permissions but to no avail.

J


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Re: [Zope] Validating page entry help

2000-06-21 Thread J. Atwood

I find the best way is to do dtml-if itemdtml-var itemdtml-else*
needed/dtml-if on the fields of the form and have dtml-try trying to do
something with all the values (email, write, update database). If they are
not all there it brings you back the the form (I always build it in one
method which makes it easier).

Examples:
http://market.gotschool.com/register.html?type=school - in production so
leave out your email

http://fundraising.gotschool.com/tell_a_friend.html


J



 From: Stuart Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:39:48 -0700
 To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Validating page entry help
 
 I was wondering what the best way to validate a users input on a page.
 
 Currently I submit a page to an interim page that checks for certain values
 using dtml-if's and dtml-unless'.
 If everything is fine I go on to the next page. If something is missing I
 need to go back, I haven't figured out how to do this part.
 If I use META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh" content=5;URL=dtml-var
 "REQUEST['HTTP_REFERER']" all the input is lost from the form.
 
 So my questions are:
 
 1. What is the best way to do page validation before it is submited.
 2. If the way I am doing it seems to be an ok way, how do I go BACK with out
 losing everything (equivalent of pressing the back button)
 
 Stuart Foster
 MediServe Information Systems
 
 http://www.mediserve.com
 
 
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[Zope] Writing to LocalFS

2000-06-22 Thread J. Atwood

(thanks to Jonathon and Dieter... for the permissions problem. That 
did the trick)

Again, after some searching, I am looking for the syntax to write  a 
file / append to a file in a Local File System.

This is certainly where my Python days seem to slow my down b/c I 
would have just:

contents = open('/path/file.txt', "r")

to read and

contents = open('/path/file.txt', "a")

to append.

I am sure that I am missing some bit of Zope Zen here...

Please point me in the right direction...

J

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[Zope] Getting anonymous permissions

2000-06-28 Thread J. Atwood

This should be easy, but has me a little confused.

to get a an AUTHENTICATED_USER permission I use...

dtml-if "AUTHENTICATED_USER.has_permission('Permission Name', '')"

Do something

/dtml-if

But how do I test to see if ANONYMOUS has a permission?

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] Getting anonymous permissions

2000-06-28 Thread J. Atwood

so

dtml-if "AUTHENTICATED_USER.has_permission('View', '')"
Do something
/dtml-if

Should work, but does not.

J



 From: Oleg Broytmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:36:36 + (GMT)
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [Zope] Getting anonymous permissions
 
 On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, J. Atwood wrote:
 But how do I test to see if ANONYMOUS has a permission?
 
 Anonymous is AUTHENTICATED_USER, too :)
 
 Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer)
  
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Re: [Zope] Passing Parameter without ?

2000-06-29 Thread J. Atwood

http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/direct_traversal

That might get you started.. it applies to most of what Zope can do.

J

 From: saif [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:33:00 +0530
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Passing Parameter without ?
 
 Hi,
 
 How do u pass parameter from one html page to another without using ? and
 REQUEST.
 i.e I wnat to pass the parameter as /.
 eg:- www.localhost.com/para1/para2
 
 Thanzs for the help
 Saif...
 http://systemprg.hypermart.net
 
 
 
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[Zope] Available Object List (Was Re: [Zope] GOOD)

2000-06-30 Thread J. Atwood

 they should put their "Available Object" white box, you know what I mean
 ? -ABOVE- the files. See, when you have 900 files in one directory,
 
 Aye!  I second that.

I know it is bad behavior to just say "me too" and send it to the list..
but...

ME TOO!

This is one of those things that would seem like it would take DC about 10
minutes to do and would greatly improve our (Zope Programmers) lives.

What say DC? 2.2b4?

J


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Re: [Zope] Confera problem

2000-07-03 Thread J. Atwood

Confera is pretty old I would try ZDiscussions, ZUBB or Squishdot.

J

At 12:30 PM +1000 7/3/2000, Terry Kerr wrote:
Hi,

I just downloaded Confera-1.2.0-nonbin.tgz, installed it, and created a
Confera topic instance.   I posted a mesage to the topic, and then
posted a reply to this messge.  This is what i get:

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /home/tejay/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
214, in publish_module
   File /home/tejay/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
179, in publish
   File /home/tejay/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 202,
in zpublisher_exception_hook
   File /home/tejay/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
165, in publish
   File /home/tejay/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line
160, in mapply
 (Object: addMessage)
   File /home/tejay/Zope-2.1.6-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
102, in call_object
 (Object: addMessage)
   File lib/python/Products/Confera/Confera.py, line 565, in addMessage
   File /var/tmp/python-root/usr/lib/python1.5/regsub.py, line 38, in
gsub
AttributeError: (see above)

Has any one had this problem?  I don't really have time to go hunting
for the problem at the moment.

I am running a Zope 2.1.6 from src on RH linux 6.2.

terry


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Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-06 Thread J. Atwood

No. Not when compared to other applications that do the same *type* of thing
(which there are very very few).

Check out an interesting set of benchmarks I ran against Zope and Tomcat
connecting to a PostgreSQL database.

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html

J



 From: Firestar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:13:32 -0400 (EDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Is Zope slow?
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm considering using Zope as the development tool for my next web project.
 However, I read from a recent benchmark test (from Qube, i think) that
 Zope(running thru Zserver?) is much SLOWER than Apache and AOLserver.  Is that
 true? To all Zope users and 'guru's, what is yr experience using Zope?
 


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Re: [Zope] Stability - can you give us some advice?

2000-07-07 Thread J. Atwood

I have about 8 Zope websites of varying sizes and complexities. Early 
on when I was developing in Zope I had it hang a few times but since 
then (and I have done a lot of stuff for the last six months) I have 
really never had it hang. Two of the sites use PostgreSQL (6.5.3 and 
7.0) and four of them are served off of one instance and an old 
Pentium 166.

It has been my experience that Zope itself (non-betas which you 
should never be using in a production environment) is very stable and 
only hang due to OS issues or really bad DTML coding (loops). If the 
problems continue I would suggest trying a different OS environment 
(I am a very very happy RH Linux person).

J

At 1:50 AM -0300 7/7/2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm new to this list (to Zope too!)and I'm really impressed with its traffic.
This show us that this project is in active development.
In our company we are currently working to create a Web site with lots
of dynamic content, database access, webmail, etc..  so we decided 
to try Zope.
Although it's lack of documentation ( this would not be fair, with a search
engine we can dig out lots of useful info from the web) we experienced a
very fast development cycle. Now we're concerned about its stability. We
are almost finishing the first stage of project and some times Zope
hangs. It was  working ok, and then, all of a sudden, it just stops answers
requests. Last time it happend we changed a DTML Method to a DTML Document
and it worked again (if you like i'll try to tell you exactly what 
was happenning).
So, I'd like some advice to make it more stable. ( or tell me what i might
be doing wrong)

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Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-07 Thread J. Atwood

I have a lot of time and exposure to Tomcat so it made it easy for me 
to run those tests (BTW, now in production, on the same machine Zope 
is about 3 times faster!) but none really with  PHP or Mason. In the 
end of the day, though, as most of the people have been saying on 
this list, you really shouldn't be focusing on comparing the raw 
speed of two totally different applications with different feature 
sets. I would challenge you to find something as powerful /useful / 
extendable as Zope written in any language and if you did, we could 
run those benchmarks.

What I *would* suggest focusing on is can Zope provide you with the 
right amount of features and functionality and can you scale it? So, 
and god willing, your site that you build in Zope goes from 
0-1,000,000 hits a day, can you handle it? The answer is yes (a mix 
of Pentium, 256 MB Ram and fast drives with Linux will do that). What 
about if you double that or go to 10,000,000 a day? Well, that is 
where ZEO and load balancing will come in. I can personally tell you 
that you could set up four Pentium 300 MHz Zope installations running 
a ZEO instance behind a load balance (not nearly are complicated as 
it seems) and you would be able to handle most of your Yahoo dreams.

So, keep researching, asking the right questions and looking for 
those answers but don't get caught up in the benchmarking game too 
long, it is only one very small piece to the equation.

Good luck.

J

At 10:19 PM -0400 7/6/2000, Firestar wrote:
Thanks for your info. The benchmarks look impressive! However, what would be
interesting is how Zope performs compared to Apache+PHP or mod_perl/mason
and other open-source solutions...
If you happen (and have the time) to compare them, do tell me:)

regards,
firestar

--Original Message--
From: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Firestar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July 6, 2000 2:55:02 PM GMT
Subject: Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?


No. Not when compared to other applications that do the same *type* of thing
(which there are very very few).

Check out an interesting set of benchmarks I ran against Zope and Tomcat
connecting to a PostgreSQL database.

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html

J


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Re: [Zope] Is Zope slow?

2000-07-07 Thread J. Atwood

 Well, i don't think my site will ever get that much hits:) Anyway, i check
 out Digicool website on this ZEO thing, and it seems that they charge abt
 $25,000 for this product alone(+consulting)? Not to belittle their effort,
 but that's a huge amount of money, considering that everything nowadays is
 "open-source":). Or did i interpret it wrongly? TIA.

ZEO is open source now. It used to be (a few months ago) that $25,000 but
now is completely open source (search for ZEO on Zope.org). It is in
Alpha/Beta and will be out soon. It probably one of the biggest things that
gets the littlest attention. It will bring Zope to a whole new level of
scaling the only 1,000,000 solutions offer now.

J


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[Zope] Writing a Zope Help System

2000-07-17 Thread J. Atwood

Has anyone posted a help on writing Zope help into your product for 2.2?

J


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Re: [Zope] Products and 2.2 Final

2000-07-18 Thread J. Atwood

Mine ZUBB - Zope Ultimate Bulletin Board

But that is not important here.

It would be nice if someone could compile a list of products that are 2.2
compatible.


JMA

 From: Rogerio Atem de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 16:11:35 -0400
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 Subject: [Zope] Products and 2.2 Final
 
 Just a simple question:
 
 I am using 2.1.6 with LocalFS, CachePool, SQL Input
 Wizard, MetaPublisher and others... I am thinking now
 in upgrading to 2.2 final.
 Is there any product that is not compatible with 2.2
 final?
 
 regards,
 
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[Zope] New How-To on Cookies (need feedack)

2000-07-18 Thread J. Atwood

I started a little how-to on cookies. Take a look and send your feedback.


http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/cookies/index_html


J


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Re: [Zope] ZDiscussions and Zope 2.2

2000-07-20 Thread J. Atwood

Are you using the old ZDiscussions or ZUBB?

I have not had the time to fix ZUBB to work with 2.2 but will try this
weekend.

J

 From: Gidon Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:33:58 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] ZDiscussions and Zope 2.2
 
 hi
 
 Anybody tried to use ZDiscussion with Zope 2.2 ?
 I somehow can't manage to get it to work 
 
 First I wasn't able to use 'regenerate method' because
 of a  TypeError : keyword parameter redefined
 
 then i copied the methods by hand, but each time
 i try to view a non-empty Topic (as Manager) it shows:
 Zope Error: Unauthorized
 I can view the page as superuser without problems.
 I can also view an old Topic that i created in Zope 2.1.6
 and imported into the new site as Manager. As long as i
 don't ad new Items ...
 
 Anybody? I add the tracebacks at the end, my os is aix 4.3.
 
 
 thankx
 
 gidon
 
 -
 traceback I: regenerate methods:
 
 Traceback (innermost last):
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222,
 in publish_module
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187,
 in publish
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in
 zpublisher_exception_hook
 (Object: ElementWithAttributes)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171,
 in publish
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in
 mapply
 (Object: manage_regenerateDefaultMethods)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112,
 in call_object
 (Object: manage_regenerateDefaultMethods)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 167, in
 __call__
 (Object: manage_regenerateDefaultMethods)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py,
 line 502, in __call__
 (Object: manage_regenerateDefaultMethods)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_In.py, line
 691, in renderwob
 (Object: default_methods.objectIds())
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py, line
 337, in eval
 (Object: manage_addProduct['OFSP'].addDTMLMethod(
 this(),
 _['sequence-item'],
 title=_.getattr(default_methods, _['sequence-item']).title,
 file=_.getattr(default_methods, _['sequence-item'])))
 (Info: this)
 File lt;stringgt;, line 0, in ?
 TypeError: (see above)
 
 traceback II: index_html as Manager in non-empty Topic.
 
 Traceback (innermost last):
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222,
 in publish_module
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187,
 in publish
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171,
 in publish
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in
 mapply
 (Object: index_html)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112,
 in call_object
 (Object: index_html)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 167, in
 __call__
 (Object: index_html)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py,
 line 502, in __call__
 (Object: index_html)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/TreeDisplay/TreeTag.py, line 155,
 in render
 (Object: a tree tag)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/TreeDisplay/TreeTag.py, line 261,
 in tpRender
 (Object: ElementWithAttributes)
 File /home/gfried/Zope-2.2.0-src/lib/python/TreeDisplay/TreeTag.py, line 337,
 in tpRenderTABLE
 (Object: ElementWithAttributes)
 Unauthorized: [0]
 
 
 
 
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[Zope] Anyone built a classifieds or review product?

2000-07-20 Thread J. Atwood

On my list of products that I would like to build / help build

ZCLassifieds:

A product that allows users to post classifieds for sale with categories,
pictures, start and end dates, email contacts, etc. Could be anonymous or
require a log in that plays upon the strengths of Zope.

ZReview:

A generic review product that allows people to post reviews of "things" and
have other people comment on the review. A lot of what is in Zope Treasures
but maybe with pictures etc.

Has anyone starting building these, need these, or would be interested in
helping build these?

J


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Re: [Zope] cookies

2000-07-20 Thread J. Atwood

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/cookies/index_html

That should help.

J

 From: "Vincent Maton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:45:55 +0200
 To: "Zope" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] cookies
 
 Hello !!!
 can you tell me how can I use the "cookies"
 
 Thank you very much
 
 
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Re: [Zope] ZDiscussions and Zope 2.2

2000-07-20 Thread J. Atwood

Good.. that means that it was an inherited problem. :)

J

 From: Gidon Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:08:25 +0200
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] ZDiscussions and Zope 2.2
 
 I used the old ZDiscussions 0.2, but i installed the
 new ZDiscussions 0.3.2 now, and the results are
 _exactly_ the same.
 
 cheers
 
 gidon
 
 Are you using the old ZDiscussions or ZUBB?
 
 I have not had the time to fix ZUBB to work with 2.2 but will try this
 weekend.
 
 J
 
 


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Re: [Zope] ZServer Statistics

2000-07-23 Thread J. Atwood

At 8:31 AM -0700 7/21/2000, Demos Economacos wrote:
Is there way to determine how many (and which)pages
ZServer serves? I am running ZServer as my primary
server. What kind of statistics should I be looking
for?

Zope writes to a log file called "Z2.log" which in log terms is a 
"combined log file" format. You should be able to run any log 
analysis package against it and get most of the information you want. 
If you want to pay for a GUI go for Webtrends, otherwise you can use 
very powerful and free Analog (http://www.analog.cx) which can be 
customized to do almost anything.

For example should I be concerned about how long it
takes to load pages, and how long users stay on a
specific page etc?

For that kind of information you need to do some pretty tricky 
mathematics that are not always very accurate.

J

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Re: [Zope] Zope performance ratios

2000-07-24 Thread J. Atwood

Well, if you "ARE" anal about numbers try

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope_benchmarks/benchmarks.html

which has a lot of information. Zope is certainly not going to compare to
any static webserver in terms of speed so I would not be upset when you see
that it does not. It does, however, come out much faster than other things
like Apache Tomcat.

I have done a lot of testing so let me know if you have any specifics.

J

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 Subject: [Zope] Zope performance ratios
 
 I'm interested in getting performance statistics for Zope. I'm scouring the
 mailing lists for previous messages but I would also be interested in
 anything else people may want to say about it. For example, what is the
 record for average web hits from a Zope site? Does someone have a feel for
 useful ratios like: "a Zope page takes, on average, twice as a static page
 to serve"? I'm not interested in being anal about the numbers, seat of
 the pants estimates are what I'm looking for.
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope and Tomcat

2000-07-27 Thread J. Atwood

To start you might want to look at some benchmarking I did between Zope and
Tomcat 

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope_benchmarks/tomcat1.html (1 of 4
rounds)

To answer your question though, since Zope can sit behind Apache (cgi based,
proxy pass, etc) and Tomcat can sit behind Apache (writes its own config
file NOTE TO DC THIS IS REALLY NICE!) you should be able to mix and match.
Tomcat will not server Zope and Zope will not serve Tomcat but you could get
them to talk to the same databases and serve off the same instance of
Apache.

Good luck.

J

 From: "Christophe Lombart" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:25:05 CEST
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zope and Tomcat
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm currently analysing this wonderfull product named Zope and I'm wondering
 if it is possible to integrate Zope with the JSP technology via why not
 Tomcat. The reason is the devevelopment team has a good experience with JSP
 and our current project - write in java - should plugged in a portal like
 ZOPE can do !
 
 
 Thanks you for your information
 Christophe Lombart
 
 
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[Zope] Full path var on Zope.org login link (Ethan!)?

2000-07-27 Thread J. Atwood

What DTML-VAR do they use on Zope.org to populate the came_from variable for
the 'login' link?

I have used dtml-var absulute_url but it does not seem to return the full
path 'http://www.thedomain.com/folder/page.html'

Any help would be great.

Thanks,
J


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[Zope] ANN: ZUBB (Zope Ultimate Bulletin Board) 0.5.0 Release

2000-07-31 Thread J. Atwood

I have uploaded the update to ZUBB. Both the changes and readme are linked
below. There are a few major presentation and feature changes but It still
does not work with Zope 2.2.  I will work on that when I have a chance (if
anyone would like to help that would be great).

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/README

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/CHANGES

As always the sample / test / development board is

http://www.bwanazulia.com/kenya/discussions/test/


I have about 6 of these boards in production environments and things seem to
be pretty stable as I work to squash bugs. My major concern for now is to
see how many posts it can handle before I have to move to something like the
SQL based version (which is still in the basic planning stages and will be a
whole new game).

Suggestions, comments are welcome.

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[Zope] ANN: ZUBB 0.5.0 Release (Now works with Zope 2.2)

2000-07-31 Thread J. Atwood

After further testing I have a work around for 2.2 users. See the install
doc for more information.

I have uploaded the update to ZUBB. Both the changes and readme are linked
below. There are a few major presentation and feature changes.

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/README

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/CHANGES

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/INSTALL

As always the sample / test / development board is

http://www.bwanazulia.com/kenya/discussions/test/


I have about 6 of these boards in production environments and things seem to
be pretty stable as I work to squash bugs. My major concern for now is to
see how many posts it can handle before I have to move to something like the
SQL based version (which is still in the basic planning stages and will be a
whole new game). So far I have been able to push it up to about 500 posts.
If you are using it and have pushed it farther let me know.

Suggestions, comments are welcome.

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[Zope] ZUBB / ZDiscussions Users or Examples

2000-07-31 Thread J. Atwood

I have started a page (http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/EXAMPLES)
to list sites that are building / using ZUBB or ZDiscussions. I would love
if you are using it to send me a link and you permission to add you to the
list.

I will also add you to a mailing list to let you know what the future looks
like it.

Thanks,
J


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Re: [Zope] ZUBB / ZDiscussions Users or Examples

2000-08-01 Thread J. Atwood

Hey Bill,

You da man. that worked like a charm. I am going to fix a few other little
'features' (bugs) release a another version.

I have been testing speed and scalability and I have a board up and running
with over 800 messages and it seems to be working great.

Thanks,
J


 From: Bill Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:35:30 -0600
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] ZUBB / ZDiscussions Users or Examples
 
 "J. Atwood" wrote:
 
 I have started a page (http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/EXAMPLES)
 to list sites that are building / using ZUBB or ZDiscussions. I would love
 if you are using it to send me a link and you permission to add you to the
 list.
 
 I will also add you to a mailing list to let you know what the future looks
 like it.
 
 
 
 Umm, not using it quite yet, but ...
 
 I have worked arounf the keyword error in ZUBB's regenerate methods method.
 
 In the method, delete the 'this()' line.
 Works for me, YMMV.
 
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[Zope] ANN: ZUBB (Zope Ultimate Bulletin Board) 0.5.3 Release

2000-08-01 Thread J. Atwood

I have uploaded ANOTHER update to ZUBB. Both the CHANGES and README are
linked below. Most of them are minor and have to do with Zope 2.2 and the
regenerate feature, which is now a bit tricky depending on what version of
Zope you are using (see INSTALL). I have also managed to test 0.5.3 with
over 900 posts (working my way towards 1000) on Zope 2.2.

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/README

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/CHANGES

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/INSTALL

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/EXAMPLES

As always the sample / test / development board is

http://www.bwanazulia.com/kenya/discussions/test/

Suggestions, comments are welcome.

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[Zope] How do I count children?

2000-08-03 Thread J. Atwood


So In ZUBB (my discussion product) I want to be able to show how many
replies there have been to any one main topic. All replies are 'children' of
the main post and when I state it with

dtml-tree branches=children
Stuff
/dtml-tree

It works and knows that each message is a child of the message.

When in go through a searchResult to list the message I want to  show many
replies there are to that message.

Q: How do I count the 'children' of any one onject?

Thanks,
J


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[Zope] Requested Zope feature

2000-08-09 Thread J. Atwood

A lot of the time I end up going into a document/folder/method just so I can
click on the 'view' tab popping up a new window so I can see it (option
click / right click).

It would be very nice if DC could add a icon (or take over the existing
icon) to pop a new window with the object ( a target="top" href="object"  )
so you could view the object without having to edit it. This would save
about 2 steps for something that, personally, I do all the time. The link to
the object would still be for editing it.

Just a thought.

Thanks,
J


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Re: [Zope] Zope - long running process

2000-08-11 Thread J. Atwood

There is a switch in z2.py that allows you to point to a PID file. It will
automatically restart your Zope installation once it goes down (if).

Like so... (start script)

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#! /bin/sh
reldir=`dirname $0`
PYTHONHOME=`cd $reldir; pwd`
export PYTHONHOME
exec /usr/local/zope/bin/python \
 $PYTHONHOME/z2.py \
 -w80 -Z /usr/local/zope/var/Z2.pid "$@"

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It is the -Z /usr/local/zope/var/Z2.pid part.

Do a more on your z2.py and check out all the options.

J

 From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: OK Studio
 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:10:53 +1000
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zope - long running process
 
 Could someone please explain how to make sure ZOPE does not stop working
 and if it does then it restarts again? My platform is FreeBSD 4.0
 -stable. Do I use CRON ? Do I turn the debug option off to detach ZOPE
 from the terminal it was started from?
 
 Regards,
 George
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Re: [Zope] Newbie Q from non-Newbie: Where does my HTML go?

2000-08-16 Thread J. Atwood

Dead on balls accurate. Works like a charm.

Thanks Chris.

(now have to figure out why I couldn't figure that out!) :)

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:17:01 +0100
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Newbie Q from non-Newbie: Where does my HTML go?
 
 "J. Atwood" wrote:
 EX1:
 
 dtml-var expr="_.whrandom.choice(tips.objectValues())"
 
 untested...
 
 dtml-var expr="_.whrandom.choice(tips.objectValues())(_.None,_)"
 
 cheers,
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

Hi Christiano (nice first message... :)  )

First of all, lets define slow. What does slow mean? Have you tested it with
AB (apachebench)? You sure it is not your connection? Watched it in TOP? My
guess is that with 2.1.6 (straight) on that system you should be able to get
about 200 requests per second which is not SLOW at all.

Check your Apache, Proxycache and SiteAccess my guess it is there.

Turn off debugging.

Upgrade to 2.2.1 (60% faster on dual processors).

Take a look at 

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html to get an idea of
what you system should be doing.

Just some suggestions.

J

 From: Christiano Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:12:00 -0300 (BRT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zope is very slow!
 
 Hi,
 
 This is my first message to the list...
 
 I'm currently running Zope 2.1.6 + Apache 1.3.12 (with proxycache). The
 system is a Solaris 5.6 on a E450 with 2GB Ram and 2 X 450mhz...
 
 The Zope is running with Apache, using the ProxyCache and SiteAccess to
 convert all requests from port 8080 to 80.
 
 My problem is: The system is *too slowly*!
 
 Does anyone know how to optimize the Zope to run quicker? Is there
 anything wrong with this configuration??
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Christiano Anderson
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

I am pretty sure (61%) that in the original release of 2.2.0 there was
something about a speed increase. One talked about on single processor
(20-40%) and the other was dual processor (60-80%). It partly has to do with
that "one line of magic code" in the z2.py.

Ethan? Paul? DC? Care to shed some light?

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:15:57 +0100
 To: Andy McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!
 
 Andy McKay wrote:
 
 Upgrade to 2.2.1 (60% faster on dual processors).
 
 Really? I didnt see anything about this in the Changes file... has something
 else changed I didnt see? I noticed that 2.1.6 wasnt making the best use of
 dual processors.
 
 I thought only ZEO would make good use fo dual processors?
 
 Chris
 


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Re: [Zope] Zope and VirtualHost

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

 From: William JOYE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:06:08 +0200
 To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope and VirtualHost
 
 Are there restrictions or problems to use SiteAccess ?

I have been using it for a couple of different sites (2 served off of one
Zope and 5 served off another) and it has been pretty good. There are few
products that are not crazy about it (breadcrumbs) but there are easy work
arounds. I think Zope.org is now using it for dev.zope.org

J


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Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

I have limited experience with ProxyPass. I have many Zope installations
(2.1.4, 2.1.6, 2.2.0b2, 2.2.0) on all sorts of different hardware
configurations (all RH Linux) and non of them are slow. Most are running
just plain ZServer but one (and the most hit) is running behind Apache with
Zope.cgi. I suggest trying that and seeing if it makes a difference.

J

 From: Christiano Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:36:42 -0300 (BRT)
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!
 
 
 Hi J,
 
 Thanks a lot for replying my message! :)
 
 Do you have any example of the best Apache and ProxyCache configuration to
 running zope?
 
 My configuration looks like this:
 
 IfModule mod_proxy.c
 ProxyRequests On
 #ProxyReceiveBufferSize 65536
 ProxyReceiveBufferSize 0
 CacheRoot "/www/proxycache"
 CacheSize 5000
 CacheGcInterval 1
 CacheMaxExpire 48
 CacheLastModifiedFactor 0.1
 CacheDefaultExpire 5
 ProxyPass /paginas/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/
 ProxyPass /p_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/p_/
 ProxyPass /misc_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/misc_/
 ProxyPassReverse /paginas/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/
 ProxyPassReverse /p_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/p_/
 ProxyPassReverse /misc_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/misc_/
 
 The TOP result is:
 
 Memory: 2048M real, 524M free, 7184K swap in use, 2041M swap free
 
 PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE   TIMECPU COMMAND
 8035 nobody11  310   13M   13M cpu0  174:10 29.70% python
 
 
 Only the Zope pages are slowly... The Apache is working properly...
 
 Thanks a lot for any help,
 
 Christiano
 
 
 On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, J. Atwood wrote:
 
 Hi Christiano (nice first message... :)  )
 
 First of all, lets define slow. What does slow mean? Have you tested it with
 AB (apachebench)? You sure it is not your connection? Watched it in TOP? My
 guess is that with 2.1.6 (straight) on that system you should be able to get
 about 200 requests per second which is not SLOW at all.
 
 Check your Apache, Proxycache and SiteAccess my guess it is there.
 
 Turn off debugging.
 
 Upgrade to 2.2.1 (60% faster on dual processors).
 
 Take a look at 
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html to get an idea of
 what you system should be doing.
 
 Just some suggestions.
 
 J
 
 From: Christiano Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:12:00 -0300 (BRT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zope is very slow!
 
 Hi,
 
 This is my first message to the list...
 
 I'm currently running Zope 2.1.6 + Apache 1.3.12 (with proxycache). The
 system is a Solaris 5.6 on a E450 with 2GB Ram and 2 X 450mhz...
 
 The Zope is running with Apache, using the ProxyCache and SiteAccess to
 convert all requests from port 8080 to 80.
 
 My problem is: The system is *too slowly*!
 
 Does anyone know how to optimize the Zope to run quicker? Is there
 anything wrong with this configuration??
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Christiano Anderson
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Zserver vs Apache

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

(man this is coming up a lot today)

It is not ZServer vs Apache but ZServer alone or behind Apache. Either way
you are using ZServer.

ZServer will do all of your http requests and as a stand alone server it
will work just fine. It is faster than putting Apache in front of it and is
certainly easier to set up. It does not however offer SSL (think there is a
product for this) and if you are in a mixed environment (meaning you don't
control the webserver) it is easier to put behind Apache (many ways). I have
a couple different sites doing to both ways. I, PERSONALLY, like ZServer
alone. I find the logging situation better, the speed better and is less
things running on the server.

J

 From: Corey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:57:00 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zserver vs Apache
 
 I keep seeming to notice that the docs are constantly referring
 to Zserver as the recomended choice for the http backend. Why
 is this?  Should I not attempt to integrate our Apache server
 with Zope, and simply use Zserver instead?
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Corey
 
 
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[Zope] Re: Zope appears to be busy ;-)

2000-08-17 Thread J. Atwood

30% is not bad... depends on what it is doing and for how much time. My
experience is that it can pop up to as much as 90% (on a slower CPU like 166
Mhz) but only for a split second. At idle (no one doing anything) it should
be using no CPU.

PID USER PRI  NI TSIZE  SIZE SWAP  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM  CTIME
COMMAND
23344 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
22:33 python
23347 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
0:00 python
23348 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
23:46 python
23349 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
16:47 python
23350 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
28:55 python
23351 nobody 0   0   403 58876 1284  56M  1280 S   0  0.0 22.3
12:24 python

Like that.

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:54:17 +0100
 To: Christiano Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Zope appears to be busy ;-)
 
 Christiano Anderson wrote:
 The TOP result is:
 
 Memory: 2048M real, 524M free, 7184K swap in use, 2041M swap free
 
 PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE   TIMECPU COMMAND
 8035 nobody11  310   13M   13M cpu0  174:10 29.70% python
 
 30% seems qutie high to me.
 
 What are your Zope pages doing and how many people are hitting them?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Chris
 


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[Zope] Broken Site Access and domain name capitalization?

2000-08-20 Thread J. Atwood

I just started messing around with some of my Domain names trying 
caps in the name and broke right through the Site Access product.

So my question is to I have to add all the variants of the domain 
name to the virtual_host method or is there a way to simply lowercase 
the HTTP_HOST before checking it? Anyone done this or shall I forge 
ahead?

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] Broken Site Access and domain name capitalization?

2000-08-21 Thread J. Atwood

That is what I thought (believe it or not). I was wondering if anyone had
done it or figured out another solution. Will try it this morning (tough to
do since can't deal with versions).

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:18:20 +0100
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Broken Site Access and domain name capitalization?
 
 "J. Atwood" wrote:
 So my question is to I have to add all the variants of the domain
 name to the virtual_host method or is there a way to simply lowercase
 the HTTP_HOST before checking it?
 
 string.lower()? ;-)
 
 cheers,
 
 Chris
 


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Re: [Zope] Stupid SiteAccess Question

2000-08-23 Thread J. Atwood

You should have two things in your "Available Objects" menu.

Set Access Rule
Site Root

Those are the ones you need to do it.

http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/SiteAccess2/info

Good luck,
J

 From: Terry Babbey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:57:45 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Stupid SiteAccess Question
 
 OK. I just downloaded SiteAccess 2.0.0b3 and untarred it in my Zope
 directory. I shutdown and restarted Zope but when I go to Control
 Panel/Manage Products I do not see SiteAccess listed. AM I missing
 something here ( quite probable )?
 Terry
 
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Re: [Zope] Where do I find out about cookies?

2000-08-24 Thread J. Atwood

No How-Tos on Cookies?

how about http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/cookies/

(I had forgotten to request it to be cataloged now down).

Enjoy,
J



 From: Jean Jordaan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:53:10 +0200
 To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Where do I find out about cookies?
 
 Hi Zopers
 
 It looks like I'm going to be using cookies now, and I don't find any
 How-To on cookies. What's the most instructive place to look? "UTSL" is
 fine as an answer, especially if it points me somewhere, and even more
 if it's DTML source ..
 
 The *ZQR* is a bit too cryptic for me. The *DTML Ref* has a bit more::
 
 8. Dictionaries are objects that support looking of data by name
 (e.g. REQUEST.cookies['CUST_ID'] to look up a cookie named CUST_ID).
 Dictionaries have has_key methods for checking whether a dictionary
 contains a value (e.g. REQUEST.cookies.has_key('CUST_ID') ) and
 methods keys , values , and items , for updating lists of dictionary
 keys, values, and key-value pairs (e.g. REQUEST.cookies.keys() to
 obtain a list of cookie names).
 
 .. but I don't understand yet how 'keys', 'values' and 'items' are going
 to help me *update* the lists -- it seems to refer only to querying
 them, AFAICS .. 
 
 -- 
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 Mosaic Software--Zope 2.1.6 on WinNT and W2K
 
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Re: [Zope] 2.2.1 and zdiscussion

2000-08-26 Thread J. Atwood

It is a known bug and will be squashed in the next release (pretty 
major thanks to Mr. Harris). Stay tuned.

J-

At 2:58 PM +0100 8/26/2000, J M Cerqueira Esteves wrote:
Hi

On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 12:20:29PM +0800, Bak @ kedai wrote:
  hi
  a clean install won't start properly  with ZDiscussion product install.  the
  same thing also with ZDiscussion based classes created.

There is a missing comma in the definition of __ac_permissions__ in class
ZDItem (file ZDiscussions.py):

 __ac_permissions__ = (
 ('Manage properties', ('manage_addProperty',
'manage_editProperties',
'manage_delProperties',
'manage_changeProperties',))
 )


Just add a comma before the last parenthesis:

 __ac_permissions__ = (
 ('Manage properties', ('manage_addProperty',
'manage_editProperties',
'manage_delProperties',
'manage_changeProperties',)),
 )

In this way, __ac_permissions__ becomes a tuple of permissions (one, in
this case), as it should be.

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[Zope] OT: Website design / spec / development resources

2000-08-26 Thread J. Atwood

Hey Zopers,

I am looking for some good guidelines in designing, spec'ing and 
developing large complex websites. Anything like guidelines, steps, 
howtos, etc would be much appreciates. From theory to practice.

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] 2.2.1 and zdiscussion

2000-08-28 Thread J. Atwood

 By the way, if I now create a forum with ZUBB, are there any expected
 migration problems when I upgrade it to your next release?

Ummm... ahem no? That is actually one of the things keeping the release
back. Mr. Harris did some fine work but it does not upgrade very easily so I
am trying to figure out how to include all / some of his functionality as
well as be able to upgrade (since I am running a lot of production boards
that I do not want to wipe out).

I would say to play with the current release, get to know it and I will
figure out how to make a mostly painless upgrade path.

J


 
 Thanks again for your work on this.
 
 Best regards
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Re: [Zope] Newbie question: FORM processing in Zope.

2000-08-28 Thread J. Atwood

Easy and hard answer.

The easy answer is forget what you know about scripts/cgi and pulling in
form variables from some sort of CGI method (perl module). Since Zope is a
constant running process it does not require that you point to a script.

Hard Answer: The basics are that all you have to do is give the form element
a name (as you would in any form) and point the action of the form to
another DTML Method/Document. In that M/D all you have to do to get the
variable is call it with DTML-VAR variable_name

1) Create a form page with 'submit' with one text input box with a name of
'email_address'.

2) Point the action to a method called 'result' and create that

3) In the 'result' method include this code dtml-var email_address

4) Play around.

When you submit from one you should be taken to the second page and the
email_address should be there.

Now, for validation you can do all sorts of tricky things. I happen to like
to have the form point back to itself and have one method handle the entire
activity. You can validate things by asking for them, or trying to do
something else like put them into a database/email. If they are not there
you will get an error so you can use dtml-try. What makes Zope great is
that I can have the form and function in the same page (easier to
update/check).

Examples: (these are live and in production so please be kind)

http://fundraising.gotschool.com/tell_a_friend.html

http://market.gotschool.com/  (click on register for either school or
supplier and notice how the form is different for both).

Same thing done twice.

J

 From: Amit Redij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:15:03 +0530
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Newbie question: FORM processing in Zope.
 
 
 hi,
 
 I am a Perl/CGI programmer, trying out Zope.
 I am confused right now about
 HOW TO process FORM variables?
 and most important thing is
 how to validate form inputs.(like same thing is best done in PERL using
 regex)
 
 that is, if I have a html having some form variables and a submit
 button. I click on the submit button. it should call some script..right?
 My question is how to pass values from one script to another. how is
 this done in Zope?
 
 thanks a lot in advance.
 
 regards
 Amit
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Advice for new zope installation

2000-08-28 Thread J. Atwood

 From: "Henk Schets" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:08:44 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Advice for new zope installation
 - how easy and reliably can I manage my virtual hosts (about 8 sites
 right now) ? Very important.

Much easier than you can imagine. I have 5 sites (different domains) right
now running off of one installation and I can't tell you how much easier it
has made my life. I can 'manage' into the root of the installation and play
with all the sites. Any products I install can be used on all of them and
yet to the outside user they are all totally different. I am moving over 3
more so within a few months should be at 8.

 - how stable is Zope regarding to Apache on Linux ?

Very. Most of my Linux boxes stay up forever (150+ days and counting). Zope
is harder to tell since you have to restart it with some products. Out of
the 4 or 5 Zope instances I have running they all stay up as long as I don't
reboot them (usually 30-50 days). Plus, since you can configure Zope to
watch its own process you are doubly sure it will stay up. Apache is well,
bulletproof.

 - we have a MySql database, is it easy to connect with Zope ?

Haven't done it but PostgreSQL is a bit tough on the install (a half day)
but very stable after that.

 - can I access the Zope internal database with e.g. ODBC ?

Nope. Not that kind of database. Think more flat file.

 - can I use log analyzers to get some statistics about our site ?

Oh yes. I find that Zope alone (no Apache) produces the best logs. it is CLF
so most log analyzers will get it. I use Analog and it is great.
(http://www.analog.cx).

 - any advice about migrating an existing site ?

There is a program call LoadSite (look on Zope.org) But that only gets you
half way there. I would suggest that you start from scratch but you will
soon see that since Zope is so good at content management and design it will
be much easier to move over lots of data and you will learn new and better
ways of displaying it.

J


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Re: [Zope] Where is news section how-to?

2000-08-29 Thread J. Atwood

It is also in the Tutorial.

Enjoy,
J

 From: Kapil Thangavelu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:55:34 -0700
 To: Radim Gelner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Where is news section how-to?
 
 Radim Gelner wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 few weeks ago, on Zope site I came across a document describing how to
 build news section with features like displaying with five most recent
 items from a folder, etc.
 
 But now I can't recall, where it was. Can someone point me in a right
 direction.
 
 something along the lines of
 
 dtml-in "objectValues(['NewsItem', 'DTML Document'])
 sort=bobobase_modification_time reverse size=5
 
 dtml-with sequence-item
 a href="dtml-var.absolute_url;"dtml-var title_or_id/a
 /dtml-with
 
 /dtml-in
 
 
 Kapil
 
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Re: [Zope] FTP crashing Zope?

2000-08-30 Thread J. Atwood

I have seen it in a beta version. Every time I connect a FTP client it
crashed. Tried it 4 - 5 times.

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:49:58 +0100
 To: Dario Lopez-KXsten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] FTP crashing Zope?
 
 Dario Lopez-KXsten wrote:
 Is this a bug in latest Zope (2.2.1) or is this expected behaviour? If, the
 latter is the case, what can I do to a) turn off FTP access, b) make sure
 that my Zope is up and running automagically after a crash?
 
 Ewww.. this seems quite nasty :(
 
 If you can reproduce this, I'd stick it with a really detailed
 description into the collector
 
 Has anyone else seen this?
 
 cheers,
 
 Chris
 
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[Zope] Case Studies (good!)

2000-08-30 Thread J. Atwood

Does anyone else love those case studies? I have was grinning ear to ear
reading the new one about replacing all Notes/Domino (which I know and
respect) with Zope. I would love to see more studies on all sorts of
different sites (big, small, database driven, not).

They are also really useful for those of us who need to try and convince
management that 'others are doing it too', which is a cold hard fact of the
corporate world. I would love to see much more (weekly) as well as more on
hardware and hits.

Keep up the great work DC.

Cheers,
J


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Re: [Zope] Zope.org is soooooo slow (not really)

2000-08-31 Thread J. Atwood

Umm.. what makes you say it is slow? It popped up just as fast as
Microsoft.com and Apple.com this morning (with each page after even faster).

Might be your connection. Certainly not slow from here (NYC, DSL)

J


 From: Erik Enge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: EMM Solutions
 Date: 31 Aug 2000 14:45:15 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Zope.org is soo slow.
 
 
 Zope.org is slow as hell.  A couple of days a week at least.  It
 doesn't exactly work in favor for Zope when I try to show of Zope.org
 to friends, collegues or potential customers and the site won't even
 respond.  Argh!
 
 Why is it so slow?  Do something about it!
 
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Re: [Zope] ZServer Statistics

2000-09-11 Thread J. Atwood

 Is there way to determine how many (and which)pages
 ZServer serves? I am running ZServer as my primary
 
 Have a look into
 
 /path_to_your_zope/var/Z2.log

And run a log analyzer like Analog (http://www.analog.cx) on it.

J


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Re: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison

2000-09-11 Thread J. Atwood

Sorry.. the second link should have been...

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope.html

J

 From: J. Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:44:33 -0400
 To: Jason Cunliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison
 
 Try 
 
 http://www.camworld.com/cms/
 
 And more at
 
 http://www.camworld.com/misc/cms.html
 
 Cheers,
 J
 
 From: "Jason Cunliffe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:17:43 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison
 
 Hello
 
 I need to present the arguments for why we haev chosen Zope vs. Others.
 
 Does anyone know of a clear at-a-glance table or anything with the main
 contenders, features, price, licensing etc.
 
 Thanks
 - Jason
 
 Jason CUNLIFFE = NOMADICS.(Interactive Art and Technology).Design Director
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison

2000-09-11 Thread J. Atwood

Try 

http://www.camworld.com/cms/

And more at

http://www.camworld.com/misc/cms.html

Cheers,
J

 From: "Jason Cunliffe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:17:43 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison
 
 Hello
 
 I need to present the arguments for why we haev chosen Zope vs. Others.
 
 Does anyone know of a clear at-a-glance table or anything with the main
 contenders, features, price, licensing etc.
 
 Thanks
 - Jason
 
 Jason CUNLIFFE = NOMADICS.(Interactive Art and Technology).Design Director
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] ZServer Statistics

2000-09-11 Thread J. Atwood

I have Analog running on a bunch of Zope servers (some behind Apache some
not) here are the only lines that make a difference.

LOGFILE /usr/local/zope/var/Z2.log

DIRSUFFIX index_html

I know that seems simple but that is all the is custom in my analog.cfg that
I took from the examples/big.cfg and made those two changes to (and a lot of
others that are site specific).

The best thing to do is get down and dirty with the fairly-good
documentation.

J


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:54:26 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] ZServer Statistics
 
 
 Is there way to determine how many (and which)pages
 ZServer serves? I am running ZServer as my primary
 
 Have a look into
 
 /path_to_your_zope/var/Z2.log
 
 And run a log analyzer like Analog (http://www.analog.cx) on it.
 
 Analog is a great tool and I have used it under other Web Servers.
 
 I wonder if anyone has a working config file which can read the Zope
 logs and would be willing to share with everyone.
 
 I'd be happy to write one, but being realistic since it has been on my
 to-do list for six months  ( I believe that it is item number 351 ;-$ ) I
 would
 be fooling myself to think that I could do it in a reasonable time for
 everyone.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] zope 2.2.1 and python 1.6

2000-09-13 Thread J. Atwood

Stick with 1.5.2 or beware the pitfalls.

J

 From: Jon Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:35:44 -0400 (EDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] zope 2.2.1 and python 1.6
 
 hello,
 
 i couldn't find anything in the list archives or the docs about python
 1.6  from python's site, it looks like there are a lot of changes that
 could break code.  can i run zope 2.2.1 on python 1.6 or should i
 stick with 1.5.2?
 
 thanks,
 
 -jon
 
 -- 
 Jon Nathan
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 http://www.rupture.net/~jon/
 
 
 
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[Zope] Zope 2.2.1 Vrs Apache Benchmarks using Apache Bench (AB)

2000-09-13 Thread J. Atwood

I have done this before
(http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/benchmarks.html) but I just got my
hands on a brand new server and thought I would see how 2.2.1 does.

Machine: 600 MHz, 128 MB Ram, 20 GB EIDE drive, Linux 6.2

Ran it 5 times.. always came out close to this (+/- 1 RPS)

Server Software:Zope/Zope
Server Port:80

Document Path:  /index_html
Document Length:184 bytes

Concurrency Level:  25
Time taken for tests:   9.715 seconds
Complete requests:  1000
Failed requests:0
Total transferred:  387387 bytes
HTML transferred:   184184 bytes
Requests per second:102.93
Transfer rate:  39.88 kb/s received

Connnection Times (ms)
  min   avg   max
Connect:0 5   254
Processing:   100   23436
Total:100   239   290

And Apache which I ran a lot. The RPS were anywhere from 250-850.. so this
was about average of all of them.

Server Software:Apache/1.3.12
Server Port:8080

Document Path:  /index.html
Document Length:231 bytes

Concurrency Level:  25
Time taken for tests:   1.896 seconds
Complete requests:  1000
Failed requests:0
Total transferred:  520520 bytes
HTML transferred:   231231 bytes
Requests per second:527.43
Transfer rate:  274.54 kb/s received

Connnection Times (ms)
  min   avg   max
Connect:0 327
Processing:1842   706
Total: 1845   733

Interesting as I upped the anti (requests and concurrency) Zope stuck to
about 95-100 RPS and Apache started to lower (250-650).

Disclaimer: This was a totally static test and it only shows how fast Zope
can serve up static pages as Apache certainly does not have all the features
of Zope. This is not very scientific just interesting.

Take a look the page linked at the top if you want to have look at some
other tests.

J







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Re: [Zope] Static pages

2000-09-14 Thread J. Atwood

The best way is the product called Loadsite. You can point it to a 
directory and it will suck up all your images and html. Zope will 
have no problem serving it up.

J

At 9:56 AM +0100 9/14/2000, Nick Trout wrote:
Hi, I would like to incorporate a load of static HTML pages into my Zope
website.

My question: what is the best way to do this?

Is there a product to this.?

I don't really want to have to use Apache.

Regards,
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Re: [Zope] Broken 'What's New' on Zope.org?

2000-09-15 Thread J. Atwood

I looked at the source once and tried to figure it out. Mostly it looks like
they keep it all in a catalog (duh) and set a cookie as to your last visit.
When login and go to the 'What's New' page they check the cookie, compare it
against the items recently added and show you the list. I guess it would
only require the site catalog and the users logging in. They might also
write the 'last visit' into the ZODB.

It is also something I have wanted to do for awhile but have not really
built that many user based sites. Let me know what you come up with or if
you want further description. I am also going to try (someday) to build a
simple version into ZUBB (as you probably are going to into Squishdot).

Hope it helps...

J

 From: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: New Information Paradigms
 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 18:18:39 +0100
 To: Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Broken 'What's New' on Zope.org?
 
 Chris McDonough wrote:
 
 This is a longstanding bug.
 
 Send complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 If anyone fixes it, please let us all know...
 
 I'm looking for just the same functionality for a site here adn I was
 hoping to do a view_source for the answer :-S
 
 cheers,
 
 Chris
 


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Re: [Zope] Newbie - Zope won't start

2000-09-15 Thread J. Atwood

Read the /doc/INSTALL

When you run install you should give it the username and group

./install -g nobody -u nobody

Try that and start it again.

J

 From: John VanDyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:13:43 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Newbie - Zope won't start
 
 I downloaded and installed Zope for Linux as per the instructions at zope.org.
 
 When I try to start Zope with ./start  I get a report that it has started up
 on ports 8080, 8021, and 8099.
 
 Then I get this:
 
 Traceback (innermost last):
 File "/usr/zope/Zope-2.2.1-linux2-x86/z2.py", line 708, in ?
 pf = open(PID_FILE, 'w')
 IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
 '/usr/zope/Zope-2.2.1-linux2-x86/var/Z2.p
 id'
 
 I installed it as root and am root when I issue the start command.
 
 This is a stock Red Hat 6.2 Intel box.
 
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Re: [Zope] sendmail

2000-09-19 Thread J. Atwood

It looks like the email address you are sending (testing) to is not valid.

"host not found"

J

At 7:10 AM -0400 9/19/2000, Jason Cunliffe wrote:
Hello

Trying to automate some sendmail messages
but we keep getting

Error Type: error
Error Value: host not found

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in
publish_module
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
 (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
 (Object: sendmail_test)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in
call_object
 (Object: sendmail_test)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 167, in __call__
 (Object: sendmail_test)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 502, in
__call__
 (Object: sendmail_test)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/Products/MailHost/SendMailTag.py, line 188, in
render
 (Object: dolphinsMailHost)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/Products/MailHost/MailHost.py, line 220, in
send
 (Object: dolphinsMailHost)
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python1.5/smtplib.py, line 452, in sendmail
   File /Zope-2.2.0/lib/python1.5/smtplib.py, line 303, in ehlo
error: (see above)

Any clues to what is wrng here?

tia
- Jason

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[Zope] Problems upgrading 2.1.6 - 2.2.2

2000-09-24 Thread J. Atwood

I followed the HOW-TO here

http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/zopeinstall/ZOPE-INSTALL-HOWTO

And looked around for different documentation but, alas, was left 
without much help.

I can move over the Data.fs file, and reinstall the products but 
every product is broken when I start it back up (again and again). I 
have tried removing them and reinstalling them but it will not let me 
import the .zexp files (any of the products). I get the following 
error (for more than one product)


 Error type:  SystemError
 Error value: Failed to import class 
_ZClass_for_ZPhotoAlbum from module Products.Photo


Traceback (innermost last):
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in 
publish_module
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in 
zpublisher_exception_hook
 (Object: Traversable)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
 (Object: manage_importObject)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in 
call_object
 (Object: manage_importObject)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py, line 519, in 
manage_importObject
 (Object: Traversable)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py, line 208, in importFile
SystemError: (see above)

Even products that there is no .zexp file like SimpleURL 1.0 the 
product is just broken.

Is there another way of going about this? Anyone done it 
successfully? I guess my next step is to try out each and every one 
of these products in Zope 2.2.2 to see if they actually work.

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] Suggestion: Zope.org, products and testing...

2000-09-29 Thread J. Atwood

At 12:29 PM +0900 9/29/2000, Alexander Schonfeld wrote:
?On the zope.org site, how about adding a property for products: "tested
versions of Zope".

That way we could know, without doing all the testing ourselves, whether
or not a product was useable.

I second that. It should also be by release version and be able to 
handle multiple entries. (2.1.6, 2.1.4, 2.2.1, 2.2.2).

J

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Re: [Zope] WebTechniques Web Tools Awards

2000-09-30 Thread J. Atwood

Done and done.

You can also go directly to

http://www.webtechniques.com/wtawards/2000/form.shtml

It is not a quick form but well worth it.

Enjoy,
J

At 2:52 PM -0400 9/30/2000, Gary E Graham wrote:
We have entered Zope in WebTechniques "Web Tools Awards" contest. We 
would appreciate your help by voting for Zope for your Open Source 
choice.

Starting Monday, October 2nd, please visit 
http://www.webtechniques.com and place your vote for Zope.

Thank you for your support.

--Gary

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Creators of Zope: The Open Source Application / Content Management Server
www.zope.org
www.digicool.com

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[Zope] ANN: ZUBB/ZDiscussions 0.6.0 Released

2000-10-01 Thread J. Atwood

http://www.zope.com/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB

With the help of Jeffrey and Angel here is 0.6.0

Changes in Version 0.6.0

Fixed the problem (again) with 2.2.2 (submitted by Angel Garcia)
Added message count to the main view (submitted by Jeffrey Harris)
Added last post to main view (submitted by Jeffrey Harris)
Modified thread view so it will show entire thread (Submitted by 
Jeffrey Harris)
Modified both README and header of ZDiscussions.py
Upgraded status to STABLE from DEVELOPMENT as it has now been in 
production on five of my sites with no problems.

Example Sites: http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB/EXAMPLES

Report bugs and such to: http://www.bwanazulia.com/discussions/test/

If you have a ZUBB/ZDiscussion installation and would like to be 
added to the list please let me know.

Thanks,
J



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[Zope] Zope bug collector on zope.org available?

2000-10-02 Thread J. Atwood

http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/

Does anyone know what product this is and if it is available for download? I
am looking for something that is similar to BugZilla.

Ethan? Paul? Anyone?

Thanks,
J


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Re: [Zope] Zope bug collector on zope.org available?

2000-10-02 Thread J. Atwood

Hey Steve,

Exactly. It is really full-featured. I am impressed.

Thanks,
J

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 Hi J.,
 
 Is this what you're looking for?
 
 http://www.zope.org//Members/klm/TrackerWiki/TrackerCVSInstructions
 
 -steve
 "J" == J Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 J http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/
 
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 J for download? I am looking for something that is similar to
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[Zope] Wierd 2.2.2 start up problem

2000-10-04 Thread J. Atwood

I have installed 2.2.2 on more than a few machines on my fifth machine I
got this after doing the install.

2000-10-04T19:54:35 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for
'\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\003'
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /usr/local/Zope-2.2.2-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line
446, in setstate
ImportError: No module named Document

I have tried wiping it away and trying again like three times. Anyone know
what this? Why it is not happening in installs. All RH Linux.

Thanks,
J


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Re: [Zope] Newbie with little questions about Zope

2000-10-05 Thread J. Atwood



 From: Antonio Navarro Navarro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 16:35:37 +0200
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] Newbie with little questions about Zope
 
 Hi All !
 
 I am a newbie in the Zope world. I've benn working several years with IIS,
 Apache, Perl, ASP, PHP, etc.. in Windows and Unix environments, and want to
 try Zope, but have some questions about it.
 
 1.- Can I made virtual hosts (www.domain1.com, www.domain2.com, and so on)
 using the Zope web server, or must I use Apache and install pcgi ?

Yes. The product to do this is called SiteAccess and I have been running it
for 10 months (5 sites) with no problems.

 
 2.- Where can I find information about running Zope + Zserver + Php +
 PostgreSQL under Linux ?

Search for PHP on Zope.org. Zserver is Zope (part of) and there are database
connectors (a couple) for PostgreSQL (been using that for 10 months as
well).

 3.- I have installed Zope from the rpms and works fine, but I'm unable to
 change the HTTP port from 8080 to 80. When I made the change and then
 restart Zope, I can see during a few seconds two processes running with the
 new port (-w 80) but after a few seconds the server stpos.


Send the error but my 90% guess is that you already have apache running on
the system at port 80 and they are fighting for the port. Look for 'httpd'
under top.


Cheers,
J


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Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?

2000-10-09 Thread J. Atwood

Sure..

http://fundraising.gotschool.com/tell_a_friend.html

Is that what you want?

J

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:02:36 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Hi,
 I am still new to zope and am wondering if there is a tell-a-friend
 script/product/example floating around for me to look at?  If not,
 and I made my own form with Zope (which I have not done yet),
 what variable would call the existing page the user was on ?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 --Sean
 
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Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?

2000-10-09 Thread J. Atwood

Well.. a few extra minutes in my day get you...

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/tell_a_friend/index_html

Enjoy.

J

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:18:56 -0700
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Yes, exactly.
 
 On 9 Oct 2000, at 14:53, J. Atwood wrote:
 
 Sure..
 
 http://fundraising.gotschool.com/tell_a_friend.html
 
 Is that what you want?
 
 J
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:02:36 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Hi,
 I am still new to zope and am wondering if there is a tell-a-friend
 script/product/example floating around for me to look at?  If not,
 and I made my own form with Zope (which I have not done yet),
 what variable would call the existing page the user was on ?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 --Sean
 
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Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?

2000-10-09 Thread J. Atwood

Hey... no problem. I have answered a few questions in the past about form
validation and since this is a good example of it and a neat little piece of
code I thought it could help.

Besides, there is probably some sort of good Karma in the world of
programming that I will benefit from (or already have!) :)

Enjoy,
J


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:18:41 -0700
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Now this is service!  Thanks a lot for the effort.
 
 --Sean
 
 On 9 Oct 2000, at 17:41, J. Atwood wrote:
 
 Well.. a few extra minutes in my day get you...
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/tell_a_friend/index_html
 
 Enjoy.
 
 J
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:18:56 -0700
 To: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Yes, exactly.
 
 On 9 Oct 2000, at 14:53, J. Atwood wrote:
 
 Sure..
 
 http://fundraising.gotschool.com/tell_a_friend.html
 
 Is that what you want?
 
 J
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:02:36 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Zope] tell-a-friend product?
 
 Hi,
 I am still new to zope and am wondering if there is a tell-a-friend
 script/product/example floating around for me to look at?  If not,
 and I made my own form with Zope (which I have not done yet),
 what variable would call the existing page the user was on ?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 --Sean
 
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Re: [Zope] Web statistics

2000-10-10 Thread J. Atwood

At 2:03 PM + 10/7/2000, Stephan Goeldi wrote:
Is there something like webalizer for Zope?
I would like to create a statistic of my website's visits.

Webalizer and Analog will work great. Zope logs are standard.

J

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[Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter

2000-10-10 Thread J. Atwood

It would be really nice to know how many people are downloading the 
products. This would also be a great feature to add to the actual 
Zope distribution. I know you could get this from the logs (easily) 
but you could also add a small counter to the product 'view' method, 
something along the lines of what is in the Simple Url products (BTW 
one of my favorites) and make it something you can turn on or off for 
your products.

dtml-call "REQUEST.set('hitcount', hitcount + 1)"
dtml-call "propertysheets.public.manage_editProperties(REQUEST)"
dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"

Thanks,
J

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter

2000-10-10 Thread J. Atwood

Yup... the ZODB does grow with each hit. Not much of course, but some. I am
sure for a site such as Zope.org it would not be unmanageable. They most
certainly have automated ways of packing the DB.

J

 From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:05:24 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
 
 Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests
 mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit /
 downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file
 system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects...
 
 - Original Message -----
 From: "J. Atwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:17 AM
 Subject: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
 
 
 It would be really nice to know how many people are downloading the
 products. This would also be a great feature to add to the actual
 Zope distribution. I know you could get this from the logs (easily)
 but you could also add a small counter to the product 'view' method,
 something along the lines of what is in the Simple Url products (BTW
 one of my favorites) and make it something you can turn on or off for
 your products.
 
 dtml-call "REQUEST.set('hitcount', hitcount + 1)"
 dtml-call "propertysheets.public.manage_editProperties(REQUEST)"
 dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"
 
 Thanks,
 J
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter

2000-10-10 Thread J. Atwood

Ooops... sorry Ethan, didn't mean to send this to the wrong place. Just
wanted to see what others felt about it. If it is undoable, cool. If someone
figures out a way, it would be really appreciated and certainly a boost to
Zopista's and product developers to see how popular and used our products
are.

That is all.

Thanks,
J

 From: mindlace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:15:44 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope.org Feature Request - Product Download Counter
 
 Andy McKay wrote:
 
 Of course the only problem with a hit counter is that high traffic requests
 mean continually writing the object into the ZODB each time it gets hit /
 downloaded, whatever. Thats why I release FSCounter which uses the file
 system. I would like to expand this to cover multiple objects...
 
 The problem is slightly more complicated than this:  We have Apache
 cache file and image objects.  This is a good thing, because they are
 static, and Apache will *always* be better than Zope at serving static
 content. This is a bad thing, because direct requests for files don't
 ever make it to Zope.
 
 Nonetheless, this doesn't affect the /view method.
 
 Further, we now have the feature that the listing of products shows the
 latest version, no /view method in the middle, for your direct download.
 
 I may be able to do some parsing of the apache log files for those
 things that end in tgz, tar.gz , and zip.  This would be somewhat
 canonical, except for the fact that because we have cache headers set on
 the file objects, they are cached downstream, and so many requests for
 cache objects will never make it to our Apache at all.
 
 ~ethan
 
 p.s. I'd really appreciate it if requests for improvements of zope.org
 be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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[Zope] If/And statements?

2000-10-11 Thread J. Atwood

Ok.. a very simple question.

How do you do a if statement with an 'and'. If this, and that..

Was just asked of me and I had really not come up against it in Zope.

(must be Wednesday)

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Re: [Zope] If/And statements?

2000-10-11 Thread J. Atwood

That was the stuff...

Thanks,
J

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 dtml-if "a==b and c==d"
 blah
 dtml-elif "e==f"
 blah blah
 dtml-else
 blah blah blah
 /dtml-if
 
 "J. Atwood" wrote:
 
 Ok.. a very simple question.
 
 How do you do a if statement with an 'and'. If this, and that..
 
 Was just asked of me and I had really not come up against it in Zope.
 
 (must be Wednesday)
 
 Thanks,
 J
 
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