[Zope] Refresh adds objects to Add list again
Hi, I'm working with a very simple Product. Whenever I Refresh it, it shows up an additional time in the Add list. Is this expected behavior? I don't think I'm doing anything odd at all in the __init__.py or in the product itself. The __init__.py consists of basically just a single context.registerClass... Kevin http://www.byproducts.com - Humor and Novelties ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZClass acting up?
- Original Message - From: "Erik Enge" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] ZClass acting up? "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This seems like odd behavior to me. Did you check your Subobjects tab to make sure that the appropriate subobjects are still selected? There is no way to select a Z Class that is a child of another Z Class in the subobject list. Should I be able to do that? Seems to that this was never possible. All I can select is test_product, but that isn't what I want. Got a clue? Is it a bug or functionality that just isn't supposed to be there? You're correct, there is no way to select a ZClass that is the child of another in the subobject list. (It is assumed to be available). I misread your original note. I didn't realize that test_project not only had test_folder as a base class, but is a class created underneath test_folder. I've never tried to do that, and it may not be a case that was considered when they built ZClasses... Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] still trying to get Catalog to work in my python product
- Original Message - From: "ed colmar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:54 AM Subject: [Zope] still trying to get Catalog to work in my python product After looking over the PTK snapshot, I've tried to duplicate the catlog that is implemented there. I could not find any search utilities built in, so I'm assuming this is still done by adding the ZsearchInterface from the management screen. Is this right, or is there some built-in PTK searching tool? ZSearchInterface is basically just a quickie tool to generate DTML Methods. You can always make the DTML on your own... it's really not too difficult to do searching of a ZCatalog (there are a couple related howtos on zope.org). Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Importing a 2.1 .zexp file into 2.2
I'm trying to import the KM|net News product into my CVS Zope (just
updated it a moment ago, with no luck). I get the following error:
STRONGError Type: InvalidObjectReference/STRONGBR
STRONGError Value: Attempt to store a wrapped persistent
object/STRONGBR
Traceback (innermost last):
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 224, in
publish_module
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 189, in
publish
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
(Object: ElementWithAttributes)
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 179, in
publish
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py, line 237, in commit
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 332, in commit
(Info: (('OFS.Application', 'Application'),
'\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\002', ''))
InvalidObjectReference: (see above)
Any ideas? Is anyone able to import this?
Kevin
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Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope
- Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Zope Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope Kevin Dangoor wrote: perl will be able to create complete through the web Products in perl/dtml. No!!! Keep perl and DTML seperate. If people want to play in Perl fine, but keep it seperate from everything else. Perl-only methods and external methods, no DTML mangling and no perl expression in dtml tags. Newbies get confused enough with python... Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like THAT! (Which would indeed be appalling.) What I meant was that a typical through the web product developed today would be a combination of PythonMethods and DTML... people coming from the perl world could make their products using PerlMethods and DTML. Expressions in DTML are still python, which shouldn't be *too* painful for perl folks. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed
- Original Message - From: "Roman Milner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 1:48 PM Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed Here is why I'm bummed about this. Like other people who have posted - after years of coding perl for money, I have vowed never to do it again. (I find that it produces encourages unmaintainable code.) Also, I think my main marketable skill now is Zope. So, were I to want to find a different job now coding Zope - perl will be expected to be in my skill set. Other companies using zope will almost certainly have perl methods laying around that need to be maintained. So, basically, in order to find a job using zope - I'll have to relearn, and code in perl at that job. So, I believe this is enough reason for me to start considering other web technologies for me, and my company. I think Zope offers a ton of features that I wouldn't want to give up. (And I've been watching what the other servers out there are doing, and I still appreciate the power given by Zope.) It's a fact of web programming that there are lots of tools written in different languages. CORBA, XML-RPC and SOAP all provide glue between languages today. It's certainly possible you could come across someone who has applications written in several different languages that use one or more of these technologies to talk to each other... Adding PerlMethods just adds another interface... one that can potentially expand the Zope user base quite dramatically. Not to mention the possibility of tying in to some of the vast amounts Perl code that already exists out there. I haven't heard of anyone standing up and saying "I'm not going to use Linux, because people might write tools in perl [or awk, or C, or lisp, or sh, or yacc or postscript, or ...]" Perhaps that's a better way to look at Zope... not as a python web application, but as a high-level OS extension for dynamic web applications. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ?
I've noticed that just about every new Zope user gets bitten by dtml-var foo == dtml-var name="foo" and dtml-var "foo" == dtml-var expr="foo". Messages reflecting this confusion come to the Zope list frequently. Everyone appreciates the shorthand, and everyone does eventually learn the difference between dtml-var foo and dtml-var "foo". Perhaps it would be better to use dtml-var name="foo" and dtml-var expr="foo" more often on the list for the sake of newcomers? Or perhaps there should be a whole (but short) chapter in the DTML that is nothing but boldface "dtml-var "foo" is actually running a python expression". Or, how about a dtml-expr tag (which could even start out as a simple synonym for dtml-var) so that people won't be confused about what is python and what is a variable lookup with the special calling properties. I think DTML is quite nice and works very well, but I see a lot of people get caught on this, and almost anything that can be done to remove the barriers of entry to Zope is a good thing. Kevin http://www.byproducts.com - Humor and Novelties ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ?
I sent Brian a message on this, and I just added it to the collector with the 1 line patch necessary to add dtml-expr as a synonym for dtml-var: http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1279/view Kevin - Original Message - From: "Paul Everitt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chris Withers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ""? Suggestion: lobby Brian Lloyd about this. As Chris mentioned, reducing the "coefficient of complexity" is something he and I are focused on. Shorthand notations are convenient, but when they get inconsistent, you wind up with the other P language. :^) --Paul Chris Withers wrote: Kevin Dangoor wrote: Or, how about a dtml-expr tag (which could even start out as a simple synonym for dtml-var) so that people won't be confused about what is python and what is a variable lookup with the special calling properties. This is a great idea :-) New Old--- dtml-var x dtml-var x dtml-var name="x" dtml-expr "x" dtml-var expr="x" dtml-var "x" cheers, Chris PS: didn't Paul Everitt comment on this in the Perl thread? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Use of lambda expression in DTML
- Original Message - From: "Lalo Martins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Use of lambda expression in DTML On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 10:58:54PM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: dtml-in "_.map (lambda item: Catalog.getobject (item.data_record_id_), Catalog (REQUEST)" How could someone understand this when you're finished with it? Perfectly clearly for anyone used to functional programming; I'd even say, clear on first sight. A lot easier to understand and maintain than a separate method. Assuming I'm reading this correctly, I think I'd probably express this as: dtml-in "Catalog(REQUEST)" dtml-with "Catalog.getobject(data_record_id_)" ...foo... /dtml-with /dtml-in BTW, I agree that exprs should be a part of DTML. You don't want to put significant program logic in DTML, but there are many places in which exprs are useful: Total: dtml-var "subtotal + shipping" I'll grant that you can set up all of the variables you need via a PythonMethod beforehand, but things like this can be nice and convenient... Any power that can be given to PythonMethods securely is a boon. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] file import
- Original Message - From: "Rick Pasotto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:21 PM Subject: [Zope] file import Second (unrelated) question: When I create and then select a new version I get a screen that says the version is not active and to press the button to activate it. Pressing the button returns me to the same screen saying that no version is active. What have I missed in using versions? Not sure about your first question. As for this one, do you have cookies turned off in your browser? Zope uses a cookie to keep track of which version you're working in. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] product installation voodoo
- Original Message - From: "michael angelo ruberto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:11 PM Subject: [Zope] product installation voodoo why do some products install fine on their own and others require voodoo incantations and sacrificial goats? Usually, products written completely in Python can be installed just by untarring the file. Products built through the web (ZClasses) usually comes as a .zexp file, which is essentially the pickled objects that make up the ZClasses, DTML Methods, etc. These need to be imported from the Products Control Panel. Is that the voodoo you're talking about? The difference is basically whether the product is just distributed as files that go in your file system, or as objects that need to live somewhere in your ZODB. can somebody tell me what the permissions for products should look like? I'm not sure that it really matters as long as your webserver process can read the files. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Proposal for mail-in to Zope
- Original Message - From: "Simon Coles" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:54 AM Subject: [Zope] Proposal for mail-in to Zope So: - Within Exim, use the "pipe" transport to get email for a particular host sent to a program on the standard input. If the program called returns certain codes then Exim will queue the message and try again. - This program takes the email message and puts it into Zope, probably by calling a DTML Method or something. This would probably be configured by objects in the Zope ZODB which say effectively "When you get email for this address, then call this Method". Hmm... "takes the email message and puts it into Zope". Using ZClient or XML-RPC? ZClient is probably the easiest way to go. You'd probably want a simple script configured in the file system to send the message on to method in Zope via ZClient. That method will be part of a MailHandler object (or some such) that can have rules based on the email address that the message is going to. These rules will likely pass the message on to another method (probably a PythonMethod, since this is programming we're talking about). It might be nice if the MailHandler broke the message up into usable fields instead of a plain text stream. I think there's a python module for doing that. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Tweaking the management interface
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From: "peter" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 3:18 PM
Subject: [Zope] Tweaking the management interface
So I can change this simply in zoperoot\lib\python\App\manage.dtml
I save a file called extramenu.dtml in the same location as menu.dtml and
main.dtml, zoperoot\lib\python\App\ and zoperoot\lib\python\Ofs
respectivly.
All I get is an 'Resource not found' error in frame 3.
So, where should I save my extramenu.dtml and should at all call it
extramenu.dtml or manage_extramenu.dtml?
And do I have to change any Python code?
One way to do this would be to just create the DTML method in the root of
your ZODB. That would probably be more convenient for you to experiment with
anyway. Otherwise, you'll need to make a change to Management.py... here's a
grep:
Management.py:manage_menu =HTMLFile('menu', globals())
Management.py:('View management screens', ('manage',
'manage_menu',)),
Just do
manage_extramenu=HTMLFile('extramenu', globals())
and add 'manage_extramenu' to the tuple for View management screens to set
up the permissions...
Kevin
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Re: [Zope] Python and Zope Question
If object1 has a unique name in your acquisition path, you can get to it simply through self.object1.object2.object3 Otherwise, you can use PARENTS. I *think* you can get to the PARENTS list via the REQUEST variable (so make sure you have REQUEST as a parameter in your method). REQUEST['PARENTS'][-1].object1.object2.object3 Kevin - Original Message - From: "Scott Burton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Python and Zope Question Thanks for the quick responses Kevin and R. David Murray! That did the trick. Now here is another quick one. How would I access an object from the root-level? As in root.object1.object2.object3? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Too many Roles?
- Original Message - From: "David Ornstein" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "zope-admin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 11:25 PM Subject: [Zope] Too many Roles? Is it crazy to have 20 or 30 roles in my Zope system? I've got members of the site who sit on this working group or that working group and various subgroups and I need to be able to control access to the various areas of the site based on this membership. Roles seem like the right choice here, but I'm wondering if this is crzay. Does this rub any of the Zopexperts the wrong way? You might want to look at Local Roles. I believe using Local Roles, you could create a role like "WGMember", and then designate that certain people have the WGMember role in certain folders... this may work out to be cleaner than building separate roles for working group... Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Dynamically Picking which object to display
- Original Message - From: "Jason Lee" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 3:50 PM Subject: [Zope] Dynamically Picking which object to display I'm fairly new to Zope, so this may be a dumb question, and my vocabulary could be wrong, so please bear with me. I'm in the middle of building an e-commerce solution for my company, and we're evaluating Zope (and PHP and Servlets, but that's immaterial) as the platform on which to base this solution. That doesn't necessarily mean anything other than to give you context. One of the problems I'm facing right now is how to display a particular object based on a value. For example, let's say a user tries to access www.foo.com/MyAccount/CCInfo. If the user has authenticated, I need to show him the obviously sensitive data he has requested. If he is not authenticated, however, I need to give him a login screen which, for argument's sake, is in the DTML document Login in the root folder. How would I go about doing that? Am I making sense? Thanks... You're asking quite a reasonable question. If you use one of the alternate authentication systems (like LoginManager or Generic User Folder), you can make a login scheme that uses cookies with a custom login screen. I'm hoping to soon have a package that works with LoginManager to be a little more plug and play. The way it works is pretty straightforward. You just set the permissions such that the user would have to authenticate in order to view that data. Zope's authentication machinery will kick in, and LoginManager would then put your login screen up. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] creating object from method
Take a look at: http://www.zope.org/Members/taz/addZClasses Kevin - Original Message - From: "Pierre Rougier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 6:57 AM Subject: [Zope] creating object from method Well, I didn't find it in the ZQR, I have a product which is able to create instantiate an object of a ZClass (using a factory). (so, I can add my special object from the Add list) In a dtml method, I want to create (instantiate) a new object of this ZClass.. I tried manage_addProduct... a little by hazard, but I don't find the right primitive to do that isn't there something like manage_addObject(ZClass, id...)? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Traversable DTML methods
- Original Message - From: "Ian Sparks" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Anthony Baxter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Traversable DTML methods Use a pythonmethod with the traverse_subpath argument... Thanks for the advice Anthony, this has been suggested to my by others. Could you point me to some Docs or Howto on this subject? My view is that you shouldn't have to go to Python to make this happen (though I am glad that you can!) and that DTML Methods should be traversable out of the box. Hmm... what does it mean, exactly, to "traverse a DTML method"? DTML Methods don't have subobjects, so it seems like you're basically trying to look up other objects or information via information passed in the URL. That seems like the kind of program logic that is much cleaner in python and that people are trying to keep out of DTML. DTML really does start getting ugly and hairy when you try to put complex logic in it. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] closed Portal
- Original Message - From: "Graham Chiu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 4:19 PM Subject: [Zope] closed Portal I just downloaded and installed the latest checkout from the PTK for the first time. It seems that if I want to have a closed Portal, I can't use Zope's authentication mechanisms to allow users into the folder that contains the Portal as the Portal then complains that the user has already been authenticated outside the Portal. Is that correct? Yes, I believe that is correct. I think the Portal is expecting the user object to have some extra methods and properties that wouldn't necessarily be in a standard Zope user object. I'm in the process of decoupling the Membership system from the Portal object. I'll probably have an early alpha within the next couple of days. My hope is that when I integrate the Membership component back into the Portal package, you'll be able to install Membership at your Zope root if you wish, and use those users within a Portal. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Traversable DTML methods
- Original Message -
From: "Ian Sparks" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Dieter Maurer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Kevin Dangoor"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Traversable DTML methods
Dieter is right, DTML methods can get parameters from the URL but they
don't
do it in the same way as SQLMethods and that, to answer Kevins question,
is
what I mean by making DTML Methods "traversable" (apologies if my
terminology is off).
I'd like to be able to pass a parameter to a "members" DTML method with a
syntax like :
Ahh... Your terminology was correct. I was thinking more in terms of the
traversing functionality offered by PythonMethods. If it's doing nothing
more than passing parameters, that seems fine to me. I was thinking more of
getting into these ugly scenarios where you do things like:
dtml-call "REQUEST.set('params', _.string.split('/', url_remainder))"
dtml-if "params[0] == 'foo'"
...do something
/dtml-if
etc.
That would get evil fast.
The one reason that may still exist for not making DTML Methods traversable
as you're suggesting would be if you want to call a DTML Method within the
acquisition context of another... something that some people may want to do
(I never have though). If a DTML Method chops off everything that follows in
the URL, then that remaining part of the URL can't be used for acquiring
other methods.
Kevin
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Re: [Zope] ZODB Storage Question
- Original Message - From: "Pete Kazmier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:31 PM Subject: [Zope] ZODB Storage Question I've been reading through the docs, howtos, etc but haven't found an answer to this question. I was hoping someone could help me out. Is it possible to use the default ZODB store for everything EXCEPT a custom built ZClass? or, even better is it possible to tell Zope not to store more than one copy of my custom ZClass? Zope 2.2 includes a feature that allows you to mount other ZODB storages at specific points in your hierarchy (much like you mount things in Unix). You can store those objects in a mounted BerkeleyStorage, which doesn't do versions. It's important to note that all of that stuff is fairly new, but it is available to try it out. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZClass newbie problem...
- Original Message - From: "Eric L. Walstad" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:30 AM Subject: [Zope] ZClass newbie problem... I'm stuck. I would like to build a "shiny new ZClass" that has the following structure: WebSimProduct WebSim Class 'Properties' Property Sheet string RunID Calc Class Object 'Properties' Property Sheet PathToInputFile PathToWxFolder Results Class Object 'Properties' Property Sheet float gashtg float elchtg float elcclg float euihtg float euiclg I haven't seen anything in the Zope documentation on using Zclass instances as members of a super class. In other programming languages I would instantiate default objects when the WebSim class is initialized. That way, to use a WebSim object, all I would need to do is instantiate one, then fill the properties of the automatiacally-created Calc object and Results object. However, I'm not sure how to build these default objects in Zope. My next question is: do I have to build a bunch of products (one for the Calc class and one for the Results class, for example)? I can imagine this would result in a huge number of products under the control panel if this is the case. I would like to have just a WebSim product and have all the other classes defined within this product. Does Zope work this way? If not, how is this class structure (or one similar) achieved? You can certainly have multiple ZClasses within a single Product. Some people recommend not nesting ZClasses, because when you do so you can only use the nested classes within the top level class... ZClasses can't be cut-and-pasted, so you're stuck with that hierarchy. If you're sure you only want to add those classes in that particular way, you can pretty easily do what you want. In the WebSim_add method, you would do something like: dtml-with "createInObjectManager..."this line is already there dtml-with "Calc_add(_.None, _)" ...set your properties here... dtml-with "Results_add(_.None, _)" ...set your Results properties here... /dtml-with /dtml-with /dtml-with HTH, Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZODB or not ZODB?
- Original Message - From: "Casey Duncan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:35 PM Subject: [Zope] ZODB or not ZODB? My question is where is the best place to store the documents themselves? They will be static HTML documents ranging from 1-50Kb in size roughly. There will probably be at least 10,000-15,000 of these documents in the library once all is said and done. In my mind I have three options: 1. Store them on the filesystem. 2. Store them in a PgSQL table as blobs. 3. Store them as DTML Docs in the ZODB. Is ZODB up to the task of storing this quantity of objects? What problems might I run into? Is it a wise idea, could a data.fs file of this size (~3-400MB) become too easily corrupted? Should I use a separate data.fs file just to store the documents (ie using mountedFileStorage)? Or is it better to use method #1 or #2? Information from anyone with experience in this regard is greatly appreciated. There are people who have experience with giant ZODBs... some people have run into the 2GB ext2fs file size limit. My Data.fs has been around ~100MB. FileSystem Storage is really quite stable, and is not likely to get corrupted no matter what the size. If you need to store the docs in multiple drives, you can use the mountable storages to set up another file on the other disk. One thing to be aware of: 10-15K documents is too much for a single Folder. You either want to break the docs up into multiple folders, or hang on for the BTreeFolder product. One other nice thing about storing in the ZODB: it's pretty easy to make your documents automatically add themselves to the ZCatalog. No need to manually update the indexes. (This would be true of PgSQL, but not the fs.) Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] html templates?
- Original Message - From: "Christian Scholz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: [Zope] html templates? Imagine writing simple html templates with some custom tags which are quite abstract like addresslist. Then write some Python Product (or there might be one Product to make this happen a little simpler) which implements these tags. Is there an advantage to this over: dtml-var addresslist (other than saving a few characters typing dtml-var)? addresslist could be a property or another DTML method... Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZPatterns, Hello, world.
Hi, I don't know of a ZPatterns "Hello, World". I remember feeling quite pleased when I managed to get a ZClass instance added to a Rack. Of course, how one would define "Hello, world" in the context of ZPatterns, I'm not sure. I haven't yet had a chance to use 0.4, so this example won't mention DataSkins. You could do something like this: create a ZClass add a Specialist add a Rack set the storage for that Rack to your ZClass add a PythonMethod to the Specialist that calls newItem(ObjID) and then sets some properties on that ZClass Then, you can go to http://yoursite/Specialist/ObjID and take a look at your ZClass. Congratulations! You've now replicated the functionality of a Folder :) (Of course, the Rack uses BTrees, so you can store any number of objects in there, unlike a Folder.) Once you have objects in your Rack, you can start playing with attribute providers and such. Plug-ins still need to be written in Python. HTH, Kevin - Original Message - From: "Jeff K. Hoffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 4:35 PM Subject: [Zope] ZPatterns, "Hello, world." I am trying to wrap my head around ZPatterns--I am hoping to use it in a project I am currently working on. Unfortunately, I'm not doing too well. :-) Is there a, "Hello ZPatterns World." example out there, anywhere, that shows the simplest usage of the framework? It would do me tremendous good to see a working example. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] KM|net News help
--- Wesley --- Being a newbie, I've decided to use the KM|net News product as a base to get my magazine/newspaper site off the ground. I've found it OK so far, but one of the problems I'm having is adding old (ie archived) articles to the database. I go in and create a new KMYear (1999) and a new month (1). When I get to the "add KMArticle" and try and enter an Id (even with 9 numbers), I get an Invalid date/time string error. How can I create valid Id's? Once I have a valid Id, I assume I'll be able to create an article (incoming.html?) --- You've hit upon an "unimplemented" feature. I didn't need to be able to create articles via the management interface, so I never added that capability. Patches accepted :) --- Wesley --- I'd also like to get rid of the "By" (my authors don't identify themselves) and the date/time stamp. Where do I find the code for this? Also, is there any way of getting around the fact that you have to approve an article. In the 'Editing Articles" section of the documentation, you're told you "will recieve a message with a link to the edit page of that article. As I don't have SMTP access, I can't specify the mailhost which means I can't approve the article. --- The "index.html" method is currently located in the Product itself, and that controls the byline and date/time stamp display. This should probably be moved into the KMArticleStore so that people can change it. --- Wesley --- Lastly, once I have the articles in there, how do I make them "belong" to a particular section? --- There is a category field on the article editing page. You set up your categories in the KMArticleStore. When you go to the edit method of the article, you can just select the category from the pull down menu. Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] ANNOUNCE: KM|Net News 1.1.1
Hi, I've had a few reports of trouble with KM|Net News and Zope 2.2. I have fixed the reported problem, but have not extensively tested KMNN with Zope 2.2. If you're using KMNN with Zope 2.2, you can pick up the new release here: http://www.zope.org/Members/taz/kmnn Kevin ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with LoginManager form-based login
- Original Message - From: "Phillip J. Eby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Itamar Shtull-Trauring" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with LoginManager form-based login Make your root acl_users a LoginManager, with the loginForm there. LoginManager will only allow "Anonymous" to log in if it is the root acl_users. This is how standard user folders behave, and *have to* because of the way manage_workspace works, unfortunately. Until/unless a new login protocol is worked out in Zope, this is the workaround. Can you make the root acl_users a LoginManager now? (Is that in 2.1.6 or the CVS version?) I know that the new ownership stuff made this impossible to do in the CVS version (unless that's already been changed...) Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Ending up with a wrapped object through the web?
I'm trying to import KM|Net News into the latest Zope CVS. I am unable to
import the .zexp or XML files into the latest (tracebacks at the end).
When importing the .zexp, I get an "Attempt to store a wrapped persistent
object" error. This is really puzzling, because I'm not sure how a
completely through-the-web Product would have a wrapped object stored in it.
I tried removing the PythonMethods to see if they were stored in an unusual
way, and this did not change the behavior...
Does anyone have any ideas about this? It's very odd and could be a major
nuisance for people who are trying to move things between 2.1.x and 2.2...
Kevin
The .zexp gives this error:
STRONGError Type: InvalidObjectReference/STRONGBR
STRONGError Value: Attempt to store a wrapped persistent
object/STRONGBR
Traceback (innermost last):
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 224, in
publish_module
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 189, in
publish
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
(Object: ElementWithAttributes)
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 179, in
publish
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py, line 237, in commit
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 347, in commit
(Info: (('OFS.Application', 'Application'),
'\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\002', ''))
InvalidObjectReference: (see above)
The XML generated by 2.1.6 gives this error:
STRONGError Type: TypeError/STRONGBR
STRONGError Value: ('not enough arguments; expected 2, got 1',
extension class ZClasses.Method.MW at 834bc68, ())/STRONGBR
Traceback (innermost last):
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 224, in
publish_module
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 189, in
publish
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
(Object: ElementWithAttributes)
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 175, in
publish
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
(Object: manage_importObject)
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in
call_object
(Object: manage_importObject)
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py, line 506, in
manage_importObject
(Object: ElementWithAttributes)
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py, line 216, in
importFile
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py, line 318, in
importXML
File /home/kid/Zope2/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py, line 283, in
importFile
TypeError: (see above)
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Re: [Zope-dev] Calling DTML methods from Python
I believe this is in the Collector... My guess is that no one has yet figured out a good way to make the client and namespace be passed in automatically. This may not be desirable anyhow, because there may be times when you want to change the client... I've actually done this once or twice. I guess there could be something like dtml-var fooMethod params="x,y,z". This is another one of those things that trips up newbies almost universally, so a good solution here could really help... Kevin - Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Zope-Dev Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Calling DTML methods from Python On more of a ranting rather than a genuine question note, Why does this _horrible_ syntax for calling methods with parameters still have to be used? dtml-[whatever] "someFunc(_.None,_,[parameters])" *blech* Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Ending up with a wrapped object through the web?
If you are using CVS, you need to do an update in ZODB to update the coptimizations.c file then rebuild the coptimizations module. That should fix the problem... That did the trick. One oddity, though: I had to reauthenticate as the superuser to do it. Shouldn't a Manager be able to import to Control_Panel/Products? Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Import (was: Zope 2.2.0 alpha 1 released... )
- Original Message - From: "Heiko Stoermer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Import (was: Zope 2.2.0 alpha 1 released... ) Digicool: do you plan to offer an upload functionality for .zexp import just like we have a download for the export now ? this would be _very_ handy, because I do not want all my customers to be able to access the import dir on my harddrive. (maybe it exists already and I just don't know?) I believe this is considered to be a security hazard, because you would then be able to send more or less arbitrary pickles through the web. Anything that allows that is generally not allowed through the web. Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.1.6: ZCatalog's Reindex unintuitive?
- Original Message - From: "Dieter Maurer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 5:31 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.1.6: ZCatalog's Reindex unintuitive? I know, of cause, that a DMTL method could do this job. However, a general method "manage_catalogRefind" might be generally useful. It would remember the parameters for the last find operation and reapply the find. I like the other solutions that exist/are coming into existence/are proposed. They are: 1) CatalogAwareness for ZClasses. I like this one least, but it exists today. Your custom ZClasses can just subclass CatalogAware and they will automatically add themselves to the catalog when they are created and remove themselves when they are deleted. Drawbacks: it's a pain to catalog them to anything but something called "Catalog", and it only works for your custom objects. 2) ZPatterns 0.4 (http://www.zope.org/Members/pje/Wikis/ZPatterns/HomePage): This allows you to create objects that use DataSkins to determine how they are stored. Additionally, you can set up methods that get called for adds and deletes, so you can automatically catalog things however you would like... plus, you can set that up on a folder by folder basis. Drawbacks: not available yet, only works for your custom objects. 3) ObserverAndNotification Interface (http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/Projects/Interfaces/ObserverAndNotificat ion): Objects can be notified of events. This is a very generic interface and should allow for all sorts of stuff. Drawbacks: I don't know if any work has been done on implementation (work is still going on on the interfaces, I think), and I don't know if you'll be able to create an observer that automatically catalogs objects like DTML Methods even though the DTML Method has no knowledge of the observer. I kind of get the feeling that you'll be able to do such things... I like all of these solutions, because they are automatic. Having a catalogRefind implies that someone needs to actively do something to make the catalog get updated... Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML
Hello, Thanks for getting this document going. It's good to see where XML is going in Zope. I do have a question, though. For me, the main value in XML has been in its usefulness as a flexible interchange format. Right now, I can store data as objects (either straight Python or ZClasses) in Zope and transform those into XML if I need to share it with the outside world (eg RSS). Similarly, though I haven't done this, I believe I can take XML from the outside world, parse it and store it in objects in the database. Are there advantages to storing the data in Zope as XML vs. storing my data as objects? Thanks, Kevin - Original Message - From: Glenn Gasmen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-xml/Unified%20Vision ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML( what does ZDOM do for us? )
Hi, Josh Thanks for the insight! I also just noticed that there is a whole lot of good information already up there in the Wiki. This does look like great stuff. I see how it complements Zope's current data storage capabilities. It provides good ways to move XML data in and out of the ZODB via XSLT and to store and manipulate XML data efficiently using XML Documents. These are excellent capabilities indeed. Have a great weekend! Kevin - Original Message - From: "Josh Zeidner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML( what does ZDOM do for us? ) Hi Kevin, What FourThought/DC are currently doing with Zope will allow for fast transformations to memory-resident structured data( ZDOM or whatever ) to exportable XML documents( which are simply strings of characters ). This introduces( to the Zope world ) cutting edge metaphors in web-application design. All data to be served to a client is some form of XML: including HTML ( a better term: structured data ). The internal structure, or representation( or "deep structure" if you are into Chomsky ), is the data/knowledge as the web site managers see it- and most likely the most accurate and flexible when dealing with the particular ormation-domain( this is what theyre paid for :) ). Each user has custom needs- and wants to see this information the way they( or the applications working on thier behalf ) are accustomed to. So, architectually speaking, we need a way to easily and quickly construct XML documents from some meta-type( our internal structure ). This is what ZDOM is accomplishing for us. Parsing is a expensive endeavor. It is not practical to parse character streams every time we want to get at our data. So the solution is to represent the data as something more computationally digestible. Again : this is what ZDOM is accomplishing for us. Does this answer your question? have a good weekend, Josh Zeidner -"zippa-dee-doo-da" , uncle remus Hello, Thanks for getting this document going. It's good to see where XML is going in Zope. I do have a question, though. For me, the main value in XML has been in its usefulness as a flexible interchange format. Right now, I can store data as objects (either straight Python or ZClasses) in Zope and transform those into XML if I need to share it with the outside world (eg RSS). Similarly, though I haven't done this, I believe I can take XML from the outside world, parse it and store it in objects in the database. Are there advantages to storing the data in Zope as XML vs. storing my data as objects? Thanks, Kevin - Original Message - From: Glenn Gasmen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-xml/Unified%20Vision ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Getting to container from a method called by the factory
- Original Message - From: "Itamar Shtull-Trauring" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Getting to container from a method called by the factory Kevin Dangoor wrote: I'm trying to check if the container from which the user selected a product from the add menu has an "acl_users" folder. When the user selects the option from the add menu, they get a form. When they submit the form, the method (a PythonMethod) does this: folder=self.Destination() if hasattr(folder, 'acl_users'): ...do something... else: ...complain... Even though I know the folder has an acl_users (and having this function return folder.objectIds() proves it), the above code will always complain. Is there a problem with using hasattr in this context? Well, first of all, because of acquisition, if there's a acl_users at the top level this will always return true. I didn't think hasattr() used acquisition... I thought hasattr would tell you if something is within that object itself. Next, PythonMethods have trouble with hasattr AFAIK - so instead do: I didn't realize this. folder=self.Destination() if 'acl_users' in folder.objectIds(): ...do something... else: ...complain... Yep. I thought of that one, too. I figured hasattr might be more efficient in large folders. In this particular context, that little bit of efficiency is not important and your example would work fine. Thanks for the tip. Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Recursively adding ZClasses (continued)
- Original Message - From: "Rik Hoekstra" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 4:28 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Recursively adding ZClasses (continued) First I had a problem with nested ZClasses, which got me into trouble when I wanted to add ZClasses to each other. So I followed the 'common wisdom' of adding all ZClasses at the top level of the product. THis generally works OK, and you can add ZClass instances to each other from the management interface. So far so good. WHere things go wrong is by recursively adding ZClasses, as in: the following pseudo code for ParticularZClass with some NestedZClasses inside: (Particular ZClass constructor has the following action sequence): create ParticularZClass instance set some properties in somelist set some other properties into REQUEST create NestedZClass instances whatever reading and following every piece of documentation I could get on this (not much), I never got any further than adding the NestedZClasses instances on the _same_ level as the ParticularZClass. No dtml-with "manage_addProduct['whatever']" (which contrary to documentation should have the containing product and not the ZClass as the 'whatever' argument) could help me out. I'm using nested ZClasses in KM|Net News. Take a look at the AddArticle method. In KMNN, these ZClasses are set up as nested ZClasses, so that may change things somewhat. However, it may still work. Rather than doing manage_addProduct[], you *might* be able to just directly call ZClass_add(_.None, _), because it could be in your acquisition path at the top of the product. In KMNN, that's all I had to do, but in that case the ZClass_add method was located within the ZClass that was to contain it. That sounded kind of rambling, so I hope it makes sense... Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Can't add propertysheets to ZClasses in 2.2
I've already submitted this to the collector, but I wanted to make sure that I'm not the only one with this problem. Using the CVS Zope, if I create a ZClass, I am unable to add a Property Sheet because of an error (missing "__len__"). I find it hard to believe that I'm the first person to try to add a ZClass in 2.2, but I didn't see this in the collector. Kevin http://www.byproducts.com - Humor and Novelties ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Logging for ZScheduler?
- Original Message - From: "Loren Stafford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Phillip J. Eby" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Loren Stafford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "zope-dev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 4:40 PM Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Logging for ZScheduler? Cool! Then the logging operation would become a part of the scheduled event thread and transaction instead of part of the Dispatcher's thread (a possibly transaction). I'll have to think about the implications of that. Where is Observer-Observable in the development plan? ZPatterns 0.4? Actually, it's in Zope 2.2... It was checked into CVS a few days back. Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.2 or Membership Component alpha problem, and suggestions for thelatterlatter
- Original Message - From: "Bill Anderson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:06 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] 2.2 or Membership Component alpha problem, and suggestions for thelatterlatter Problem: If you try to add a membership system to your root folder, and it has an acl_users folder, you will not succeed in adding it, ecause it will complain about mismatched passwords (or at least it did for me). Solution: Delete the acl_users fodler first. This one is fixed in 0.6. Now, onto the current issue. I have some DTML that adds ZClass instances. The Member user has the appropriate roles, yet is refused. The forbidden page tells me I need Manager role. Now, why is this? In particular, I am using the MeetingManagement product. It works fine in 2.1.6. I think it is related to the security changes in 2.2. Problem is, even adding proxy roles for the methods in the chain changes nothing. One possibility: Version 0.5 created the Member role, but did not create any permissions for it. Version 0.6 creates all three roles and sets up permissions just like the Portal.py file. Now, a suggestion for Kevin: It would be nice if there was user management for the Membership component's default setup. I am sure you're thinking about it, but thought I'd let you know it is needed :) Specifically, there should be some way that the site manager can modify theroles of the users, reset passwords, and DELETE them as needed. Any ideas/work being done for this? This shouldn't be too difficult. To be completely functional, this probably would need a Catalog, so that you can search by email address... but, making a couple forms to change a user with a known user name should be quite easy. Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDav Bug? -- And some comments on how great WebDAV is ;-)
- Original Message - From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Joachim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:49 AM Subject: RE: Re: [Zope-dev] WebDav Bug? -- And some comments on how great WebDAV is ;-) Hi Brian, that proposal sounds very good to me. Could it be enhanced in a way that we can add an add automatic extension when served by webdav. What I mean by that is that an object without extension is seen as having say .html appended to it when it is access by webdav. So we can use all these extension based web authoring tools without changing the python way of doing things. This is an idea that has been kicking around for a while - I am somewhat resistant to it because I have been trying hard to fight for less magic in Zope. It is very hard to implement DWIM (Do What I Mean) and have it do the right thing in all situations - it often turns out to be fragile and easily broken as the system evolves. Less magic is good. Longer term, it seems like this can be addressed by the Component architecture, can't it? Ideally the WebDAV Presentation Component would be given some clues about how to represent the object in WebDAV. Or maybe there will be a selection of WebDAV components that provide a variety of ways to deal with it. soapbox IMHO, I'd rather see the things that make using file extensions a pain in the first place go away. The death to index_html part of my proposal is a first step toward that. If web-oriented tools expect to be able to use file extensions, then Zope needs to do what people expect. ...while still balancing the desire to easily access objects and methods via Python. Tricky. Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] RE: Barriers to Zope popularity: Part 2: source control
- Original Message - From: Jay, Dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:01 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] RE: Barriers to Zope popularity: Part 2: source control -Original Message- From: Kenichi Sato Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001 5:49 PM To: djay Subject: Barriers to Zope popularity: Part 2: source control Zope looks nice but I found it has two potential problems. 1. WYSIWYG editing 2. Source control (by ClearCase) 1. I have not used Zope Page Templates but these are supposed to solve the wysiwyg problem. They are an alternative to DMTLDocuments. They allow for much better seperation of code and presentation. Get you graphics people to use webdav to edit the html with whatever editor they want and the coding people argment the html rather than rip it appart. http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Articles/ZPT1 I think ZPT rocks. It's an excellent system... and combined with WebDAV or FTP (as you mention) it does solve the WYSIWYG problem. 2. Hasn't really been solved. There are sort of attempts that work now with CVS (I havn't tried it) http://www.zope.org/Members/sspickle/ZCVSMixin Source control for through the web Products has been tricky. But, the proposed Component architecture is supposed to: 1) Make it easier than ever to write file system-based Products that can be pieced together and configured through the web 2) Perform some amount of unification between through the web and filesystem development (though I haven't seen much detail about that) For larger development projects, it's probably wise to do them in the filesystem. If you do that, you'll get access to all of your favorite tools (editors, source control, etc.) Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zc.authorizedotnet needs a new key
authorize.net has changed their CA for test.authorize.net and attempts to connect there with zc.authorizedotnet currently fail. The key that's needed is at the end of this message. Thanks! Kevin -BEGIN CERTIFICATE- MIIE2DCCBEGgAwIBAgIEN0rSQzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADCBwzELMAkGA1UEBhMC VVMxFDASBgNVBAoTC0VudHJ1c3QubmV0MTswOQYDVQQLEzJ3d3cuZW50cnVzdC5u ZXQvQ1BTIGluY29ycC4gYnkgcmVmLiAobGltaXRzIGxpYWIuKTElMCMGA1UECxMc KGMpIDE5OTkgRW50cnVzdC5uZXQgTGltaXRlZDE6MDgGA1UEAxMxRW50cnVzdC5u ZXQgU2VjdXJlIFNlcnZlciBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIEF1dGhvcml0eTAeFw05OTA1 MjUxNjA5NDBaFw0xOTA1MjUxNjM5NDBaMIHDMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEUMBIGA1UE ChMLRW50cnVzdC5uZXQxOzA5BgNVBAsTMnd3dy5lbnRydXN0Lm5ldC9DUFMgaW5j b3JwLiBieSByZWYuIChsaW1pdHMgbGlhYi4pMSUwIwYDVQQLExwoYykgMTk5OSBF bnRydXN0Lm5ldCBMaW1pdGVkMTowOAYDVQQDEzFFbnRydXN0Lm5ldCBTZWN1cmUg U2VydmVyIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gQXV0aG9yaXR5MIGdMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUA A4GLADCBhwKBgQDNKIM0VBuJ8w+vN5Ex/68xYMmo6LIQaO2f55M28Qpku0f1BBc/ I0dNxScZgSYMVHINiC3ZH5oSn7yzcdOAGT9HZnuMNSjSuQrfJNqc1lB5gXpa0zf3 wkrYKZImZNHkmGw6AIr1NJtl+O3jEP/9uElY3KDegjlrgbEWGWG5VLbmQwIBA6OC AdcwggHTMBEGCWCGSAGG+EIBAQQEAwIABzCCARkGA1UdHwSCARAwggEMMIHeoIHb oIHYpIHVMIHSMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEUMBIGA1UEChMLRW50cnVzdC5uZXQxOzA5 BgNVBAsTMnd3dy5lbnRydXN0Lm5ldC9DUFMgaW5jb3JwLiBieSByZWYuIChsaW1p dHMgbGlhYi4pMSUwIwYDVQQLExwoYykgMTk5OSBFbnRydXN0Lm5ldCBMaW1pdGVk MTowOAYDVQQDEzFFbnRydXN0Lm5ldCBTZWN1cmUgU2VydmVyIENlcnRpZmljYXRp b24gQXV0aG9yaXR5MQ0wCwYDVQQDEwRDUkwxMCmgJ6AlhiNodHRwOi8vd3d3LmVu dHJ1c3QubmV0L0NSTC9uZXQxLmNybDArBgNVHRAEJDAigA8xOTk5MDUyNTE2MDk0 MFqBDzIwMTkwNTI1MTYwOTQwWjALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwHwYDVR0jBBgwFoAU8Bdi E1U9s/8KAGv7UISX8+1i0BowHQYDVR0OBBYEFPAXYhNVPbP/CgBr+1CEl/PtYtAa MAwGA1UdEwQFMAMBAf8wGQYJKoZIhvZ9B0EABAwwChsEVjQuMAMCBJAwDQYJKoZI hvcNAQEFBQADgYEAkNwwAvpkdMKnCqV8IY00F6j7Rw7/JXyNEwr75Ji174z4xRAN 95K+8cPV1ZVqBLssziY2ZcgxxufuP+NXdYR6Ee9GTxj005i7qIcyunL2POI9n9cd 2cNgQ4xYDiKWL2KjLB+6rQXvqzJ4h6BUcxm1XAX5Uj5tLUUL9wqT6u0G+bI= -END CERTIFICATE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] paver and buildout
Hi, So, I saw Martijn's paver: buildout is utterly doomed message on Tuesday, but I haven't had a chance to respond to it until now. As Kent points out immediately following, I plan to use zc.buildout's machinery. I actively use zc.buildout now, and I'm looking forward to getting my buildout merged into my pavement.py. I totally agree with Martijn that buildout needs a better website and I'm glad to see that Baiju is going forward with that. Ultimately, though, I think that people will choose to use buildout alone or paver+buildout (or maybe paver+virtualenv, depending on their tastes) completely based on what fits their brains better. I emailed a fair bit with Zed Shaw about his Vellum tool. He adamantly opposes having his builds defined in a full-blown language (ie Python), whereas for my needs I really want to define my builds in Python. But I want it to be easier to do than what you get with the Python standard library. People who prefer to keep there build information in a data format will no doubt stick with buildout. I have no problem with that. My goal is just to share the workload with other people who have similar build and deployment problems to the ones I have. Kevin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
