Re: [Zope-dev] who wants to maintain Zope 3?

2009-04-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
are more than you, but they have been silent in teh discussions, and it's important that your viewpoint isn't lost. I'm also happy you seem to have gotten good answers on how to go forward. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] who wants to maintain Zope 3?

2009-04-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
to fix bugs, as you are one of the Zope people who knows Zope 2 inside out. If you need new releases, there is no reason why there shouldn't be new relesases. In short, I'm not sure what you are worried about. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Align Zope 2 and Zope 3 permissions

2009-04-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 12:31, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Thoughts? I haven't had my dead deeep down in the Zope 2 security for three years, so I'm a bit fuzzy on how it works, but all this sounds like a good step forward. +1 -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok

Re: [Zope-dev] Don't have Zope 2 hard-specify its versions!

2009-04-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 08:56, Dieter Maurer die...@handshake.de wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote at 2009-4-11 16:12 +0200: ... Does easy_install keep track of already installed dependencies and refuse to install it if it break dependencies? easy_install checks dependencies only at installation

Re: [Zope-dev] Don't have Zope 2 hard-specify its versions!

2009-04-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 17:26, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: No, you just said above we were in the yes case. No you didn't. My bad. We are in the no case. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] Don't have Zope 2 hard-specify its versions!

2009-04-11 Thread Lennart Regebro
before it was eggyfied. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

Re: [Zope-dev] Don't have Zope 2 hard-specify its versions!

2009-04-11 Thread Lennart Regebro
before it was eggyfied. No, before I could always stick a new version manually in lib/python of my instance. Why would you not be able to do that now? I evidently don't understand the problem. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] naming Zope

2009-04-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 01:36, Shane Hathaway sh...@hathawaymix.org wrote: Grr.  Way to end a bikeshed discussion.  Now what are we going to drone on about? Wait, wait, it should be called Zope Platform! -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14

Re: [Zope-dev] naming Zope

2009-04-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 09:23, Dieter Maurer die...@handshake.de wrote: I will continue to speak of Zope 2 (not Zope Classic). Right. The classic/legacy renaming is only necessary if we were to move to Zope 4, which we aren't, or continue to talk about Zope 3, which we aren't. -- Lennart

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
and the vast codebase, and move forward. And I guess Zope Toolkit, Grok and BFG is that way forward. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] naming Zope

2009-04-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
Zope Toolkit is a good name. But so is Zope Framework. And honestly, it's more a framework than a toolkit. A toolkit is a collection of reasonably independent tools. OK, so Zope Framework is actually loads of frameworks, one for components, one for security one for web forms, and this and that.

Re: [Zope-dev] naming Zope

2009-04-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 23:07, Chris Rossi ch...@archimedeanco.com wrote: I can't believe no one's suggested Zope Mega, yet. It sounds stupid. The Zope Ultra Component Framework Toolkit, though, THAT's a name with panache! -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http

Re: [Zope-dev] naming Zope

2009-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
already does so, of course, and Plone 4 is set to do so. Hopefully by Zope 2.13, the old publisher can be a horrid memory, and repoze.Zope2 be default. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] naming Zope

2009-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
libraries, they fit together, and it's also a development style with the component architecture et al.  Framework to many Python web people implies a runnable application server (the terms got conflated when Pylons and Django started calling themselves web frameworks). Oh, that's bad. -- Lennart

Re: [Zope-dev] dispatching zope.org's roles as a download source...

2009-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:21, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:14, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: PyPI will work in exactly the same way as zope.org for non-eggified products: manual download. What I *would* worry

Re: [Zope-dev] Plone vs. Zope2 was: Re: naming Zope

2009-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
exist? :-) I don't know how you are thinking here. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] leaving zope.org to work...

2009-04-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:16, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 17:23, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: PyPI won't work for non-eggified products. Right, so they need to be eggified then, which is a Good Thing. :) I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] leaving zope.org to work...

2009-04-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
that those who want to keep it get to be responsible for maintaining it. Problem solved. :) -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] dispatching zope.org's roles as a download source...

2009-04-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
easy_install/buildout/etc just fail in those cases? Typically with a no setup.py found or something? -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http

Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:34, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: Grok and Repoze is not mutually exclusive. For end users who pick one or the other, they are *are* mutually exclusive in that the users won't necessarily know (or care) that the other exists... I

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 08:32, Dieter Maurer die...@handshake.de wrote: Because members put there content (product implementations) still usable? Absolutely right. In the long run that should probably be moved over to PyPI though. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
, eggifying it and moving it to PyPI isn't that much work. The alternative is to make a new products directory on zope.org, which is of course completely possible. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Source Code Repository

2009-04-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
then to https:// would. But switching to relative URLs would also solve them problem. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 08:32, Dieter Maurer die...@handshake.de wrote: Because members put there content (product implementations) still usable? Absolutely right. In the long run that should probably be moved over to PyPI though. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Source Code Repository

2009-04-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
in the face. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists

Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
or something, and four servers running on Zope Framework. Zope Legacy Server 4/5 (with Plone 5 on top), Blue Bream, BFG and Grok. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope maillist - Zope

Re: [Zope] RIP Zope 2!

2009-04-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
new users nowadays except via Plone. The effort of slowly moving Plone more and more onto Zope 3 is therefore very important. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope maillist - Zope

Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...

2009-04-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
2009/4/3 Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk: Lennart Regebro wrote: 1. The Zope Framework dependency cleanup project continues. When cleanup is deemed reasonably finished, we rename the framework Zope 4. Oh, so Zope 4 is a run on from Zope 2? Eh... no. How do I upgrade from Zope 2

Re: [Zope-dev] Two small convenience suggestions for zope.interface and zope.component

2009-04-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
2009/4/1 Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as: I now also wonder if adapter()/implementer() would work when called with classes rather than functions...? Yes, in 2.6 and 3.0. Not with the current trunk of zope.interfaces, though, but in the future, sure. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista

Re: [Zope-dev] Two small convenience suggestions for zope.interface and zope.component

2009-04-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
could support both =2.5 and =2.6. 2.5 doesn't support class decorators, so no. But the plan is that both implements(IFoo) and @implementor(IFoo) will be available under 2.6. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] PyCon?

2009-03-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
I'm leaving soon, arriving this afternoon, staying at Crowne Plaza. I may be up for a drink this evening, or I may be sleeping, not sure. :) The Zope Open Space I'd prefer Friday or Sunday. Any opinion on that? -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com

Re: [Zope-dev] Python3 and attribute annotations.

2009-03-13 Thread Lennart Regebro
be confusing though. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope-dev] Python3 and attribute annotations.

2009-03-13 Thread Lennart Regebro
isn't magic enough, so unless we can think of something better... :) The it's the question if we want to start moving before going over to Python 3 or after. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] deprecating the deprecation system?

2009-03-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
calling the parameter *didn't* know the value. Five I think. Ah well) Thus, it was good to get rid of it -- just the deprecation warning was silly: instead, a value different from the only correct one should have resulted in an exception. True. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista

Re: [Zope] redirect timeout doesn't work

2009-03-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
of timeouts and redirections and stuff in your application. Are you sure old-school HTML is the right way to do this? Sounds like an AJAX app could be more suitable. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope] Order of method calls of ZopePageTemplate

2009-03-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:18, Analog Kid garlictrom...@gmail.com wrote: i want to make sure that a certain method gets called before anything else when the template gets rendered. Sooo...stick it first in the template! Strange question... -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista

Re: [Zope] Order of method calls of ZopePageTemplate

2009-03-12 Thread Lennart Regebro
are trying to do. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists

Re: [Zope] session data object question

2009-03-11 Thread Lennart Regebro
and a normal page load. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists

Re: [Zope-dev] deprecating the deprecation system?

2009-03-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
. The parameter can just stay there and be ignored, no need to warn. But the description of the change is incorrect, the decision to ignore the parameter was for reason, not just because we could, even if I don't exactly remember what the reason was now. :) -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista

Re: [Zope-PAS] user login and roles

2009-03-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-pas As mentioned elsewhere, PAS is overkill for this. You can assign roles to uses with the normal user folder. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-PAS] user login and roles

2009-03-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
will enable you to have a login form. Create all these, enable them, fiddle around a bit. Then you probably need to ask more questions, and I won't know enough about PAS to answer, but somebody else probably will. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661

Re: [Zope] trivial: hello world with filesystem based egg sources

2009-03-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
/source/ Then, you should probably buy the above book too. Zope 3 technologies are getting very common in Zope 2. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http

Re: [Zope] how to check a user role with data entred by user?

2009-03-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
. OK. Done. You don't need to do anything more. I suspect you still need to explain, not what you are trying to do, but what you are trying to achieve. Explain the usecase. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope] Zope2 + Twisted

2009-03-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
. But setting zserver-threads to 1 does. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 app server dying? (was Re: the Zope Framework project)

2009-03-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
some time, and they need a separate release. I don't think The Zope 3 app server is likely to die any more than the Zope 2 app server. Now, in five years, maybe. But then again, by then we could all have suffered an alien invasion. :-D -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http

Re: [Zope-dev] deprecating the deprecation system?

2009-03-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
, between releases of the framework? Or we could simply not deprecate, but encourage backwards compatibilities, at least until a new major version is released of the framework? -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-PAS] a question about documentation

2009-03-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
if he entered the right password. Well, normally you call the role username, and this is supported with the standard user handling in Zope, you don't need PAS for that. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope] how to check a user role with data entred by user?

2009-03-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
on of the roles? You do that with if entered_data in (role1, role2): which I suspect isn't what you are asking at all. :) Tell us what you are trying to achieve. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope] Zope2 + Twisted

2009-03-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
is again not thread safe, and will only work with one thread per server, so you don't actually gain anything in using it. Besides, I don't think anyone actually used it after I implemented it. Which is why it's still marked as experimental, and would probably best be removed again. -- Lennart

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
this is related to the proposal. It is expected that you should be able to use pieces of the pile selectively, and it will continue to be expected. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
is that there is a need for some steering group, that will, however, encourage people to form groups around packages and maintain them. The steering group would not and could not help with any of these problems. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:56, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: Am Mittwoch 04 März 2009 10:25:19 schrieb Lennart Regebro: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:04, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: What I don't see in your proposal is, how these subset-groups would be coordinated, which

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
that it should be any time soon. What Hermann suggested is somebody that keeps track of all Zope software modules and tells him which is good and which is bad. That's not what you suggested, and as mention, I don't think it's even possible, and definitely not a good idea. -- Lennart Regebro

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
think that's needed, because the technical disagreements we have here are so minor, and seems mostly based in massinderstindung. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
. And implement it? -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
not have backroom discussions. They should act as open as possible. I think of it as a catalyst. The operative here is *should*. Compare that to *will*. These are different words. What the steering group *should* do and what they *will* do is not the same thing. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
see that a steering group is as little as possible. If it turns out to be necessary, we add it then. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:53, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: My impression (from an external perspective) is that Zope Corporation did just that for Zope 2/3, but nowadays tries to give this role to the community. No, I don't think we ever tried that. I think we should. -- Lennart

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
there is a significant risk that is ends up hindering them. I thought I could organize freedom. How Scandinavian of me --Björk: Hunter. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 13:33, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: Hmmm, I have the slight feeling that your opinions are not that far away. Of course not. This is, as aways, just a question of loudly agreeing. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
that this would tend to result in better dependency partitioning (X depends on Y, I don't need Y, I just need X, let's fix that)? I don't see how these are related. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope] Traversal and five

2009-03-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
for beer. Works lurlvely! No steering committee needed. If we still want more structure, we'll get somebody to force us to stick colored dots on big papers on the walls. That whole thing was awesome. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 00:05, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Hi there, Lennart Regebro wrote: - A steering group for the framework? Euhm? I don't know. I think release managers are needed, and I think a steering group is going to grow out of the community. Having an offical

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
, yeah , I know. My answer is all peace and love and fluffy kittens and everybody does whatever they want, but amazingly, it tends to work! :-) Freedom baby yeah! -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
will be, and then we'll have to rethink. But currently the people involved, and the people that need to be steered are so few we can fit them all into one room at a time. And then I do not see why would would need a steering group. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http

Re: [ZWeb] new.zope.org still in the works?

2009-02-26 Thread Lennart Regebro
stuff. We should keep it around as old.zope.org for a year so people can move content they need. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http

Re: [Zope-dev] Bespin - a new hope for Zope 2 TTW development ?!

2009-02-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 14:33, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: Hi,    I wonder whether new development patterns are going to emerge after this :) https://bespin.mozilla.com/ It is definitely something that can replace the Zope 2 TTW pattern with a Zope3 TTW pattern. -- Lennart Regebro

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.publisher dependencies

2009-02-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
and a zope.location.interfaces. I haven't tried. Anyway, it was just an idea. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.publisher dependencies

2009-02-24 Thread Lennart Regebro
be split into zope.location and zope.locationspec. what about zope.ilocation? Maybe.  I'd lean toward zope.locationspec because it would appear right after zope.location in a sorted list, making it more apparent that they are related. zope.location.interfaces? -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
a zodb.zope.org DNS record and pointing it at that Zope site. - pasting in the content. - giving zodb people manager access to the plone site. I can not technically do any of that, as I don't have a server to put it on, no access to the Zope.org dns and no content. The rest I can do. :) -- Lennart Regebro

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope2book/trunk/ Lot's of updates over the weekend!

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
ended. Zope 2.12 is a libertarian meritodemocracy. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope2book/trunk/ Lot's of updates over the weekend!

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:37, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: With the revolutionary eggification of the masses that is underway the dictatorship has ended. Zope 2.12 is a libertarian meritodemocracy. Well, at least if you have svn access. :) -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
taken a backup of everything) and see what happens. :) I'm also lazy, which are the reasons I haven't volunteered for the role of Web Tsar already, as being bad at getting people to work for free would mean I have to do everything myself, and I'm too lazy for that. :) -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
Zope.org as a possible discussion item for the OpenSpace, maybe somebody has some bright idea. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http

Re: [ZWeb] [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
a zodb.zope.org DNS record and pointing it at that Zope site. - pasting in the content. - giving zodb people manager access to the plone site. I can not technically do any of that, as I don't have a server to put it on, no access to the Zope.org dns and no content. The rest I can do. :) -- Lennart Regebro

Re: [ZWeb] [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
taken a backup of everything) and see what happens. :) I'm also lazy, which are the reasons I haven't volunteered for the role of Web Tsar already, as being bad at getting people to work for free would mean I have to do everything myself, and I'm too lazy for that. :) -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista

Re: [ZWeb] [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
Zope.org as a possible discussion item for the OpenSpace, maybe somebody has some bright idea. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http

Re: [Zope-dev] Overhauling the Zope 2 presentation on zope.org

2009-02-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
should be created for Zope 3, and then we should trash the current Zope org for a new frontpage that basically only points to the different microsites. -- Lennart Regebro: Pythonista, Barista, Notsotrista. http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

[Zope-dev] Come to the Zope Sprint @ PyCon 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/zope/ For general information on the sprints, see: http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/ or ask me. Help out / Learn / Have fun! -- Lennart Regebro http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist

[Zope] Come to the Zope Sprint @ PyCon 2009

2009-02-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/projects/zope/ For general information on the sprints, see: http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/ or ask me. Help out / Learn / Have fun! -- Lennart Regebro http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
Well, by now we definitely have enough people to have a fruitful discussion, so I feel happy to say that it definitely will happen. I created a PyCon wikipage if people want to add anything, with the suggested title State of Zope, I hope that title is OK.

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
. India is big enough in itself. :) -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 14:09, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 13:32, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: Is there any plan for Zope sprint ? Nothing official yet, but I'm sure

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 15:46, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 14:09, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: It looks like this time there are few formalities to arrange a sprint: http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/call-for-projects/ Ah, OK. I'll set up a Zope Sprint

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
place as last year. We should talk to Jacob Kaplan-Moss about that. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

[Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
, say so here, so we'll know when we can get the most participants. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-02-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
without me being explicit about it. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope-dev] Retiring the Zope SVN trunk? was: Re: Zope Tests: 6 OK, 2 Failed

2009-02-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
the plan anyhow? -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists

Re: [Zope-dev] Retiring the Zope SVN trunk? was: Re: Zope Tests: 6 OK, 2 Failed

2009-02-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Plans for Zope 2.12

2009-02-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
of a path to fix that. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-01-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [ZWeb] an idea for the wiki

2009-01-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
the wiki in means, but of course it would be great if the wiki could look like the rest of the site. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org

Re: [ZWeb] an idea for the wiki

2009-01-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
the plone skin then. OK, I didn't know zwiki integrated with Plone that easily. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web

Re: [Zope-dev] catalog performance: query plan

2008-11-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
to stop using it. It's done to support navigation trees from the catalog, but navigation should not be done via the same catalog as you do other things, but a dedicated tool. That would simplify and speed things up a lot. But OK, that's off-topic. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http

Re: [Zope-dev] catalog performance: query plan

2008-11-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 22:29, Matt Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lennart Regebro regebro at gmail.com writes: I would be interested in seeing a bunch of Gurus sit down at some sprint and trying to come up with a catalog engine that is incremental and uses query plans. There is no reason

Re: [Zope-dev] catalog performance: query plan

2008-11-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
version of Zope, say 2.12. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 features

2008-10-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
this. Could be a good xmas entertainment for example. :) -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

Re: [Zope-dev] ZServer/medusa doesn't work with Python 2.6

2008-10-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
that. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependencies and future of zope 3

2008-09-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
a base installation of Zope3 is too big is well known. So I think I can definitely say Yes to that answer. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http

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