and recreate the DateTime class by subclassing datetime.datetime. For
backwards compatability, we make sure that old pickles can be revived
and that the old DateTime API is supported for two more Zope releases.
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Oh, so that make a difference? datetime objects are unchangeable, so
everytime you change it you will have to set the attribute, and I
thought the whole object got pickled then, but I guess that it
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a frankendatetime. :-)
Which, as I understand it, is what Jürgen Herrman wanted to create...
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On 12/3/05, John Poltorak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wanted something which looks like Plone Calendar
How do you mean looks like?
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to corp machine.
But when I want to start this site in my corp machine, it is show error
message: python23.dll is not found.
Huh? Did you copy only the Data.fs?
What OS do you run on your work PC?
Did the Zope work on your Zope PC before you copied the Data.fs?
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they contain a compiled pyc-file, which requires 2.3. Delete all pyc
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indexes, why not just use them? :)
I've read a bit about btrees on the zope wiki and wonder if that's the best
way.
Probably, but only if you actually let them do the indexing. :-)
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Calendar app available which looks and works like Plone
Calendar?
I think this would be easier if you were more specific of what kind of
features you want.
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currently working on using the Five internationalisation
that comes with Five 1.1 and Zope 2.9).
http://www.cps-project.org/sections/projects/calendar_server/cpssharedcalendar-1-3-3/
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un-install my old copy properly somehow, not just delete the directory, is
that correct?
No, you can just delete the instance directory. It's the copying that
is the problem. The Data.fs can generally be copied without problems
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that depends on your application.
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are just that: application data inside program code.
Eh, no they aren't.
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Zope product gets locked, that is false. It's
on a object-basis, not a product basis.
You claim that things get locked that shouldn't be locked in Zope. It
is not clear to me why you say that.
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that there is too much implicitness in Zope 2. I don't agree
that persistance is a part of that. It isn't implicit at all. Maybe
it's not easy to understand, but it isn't particularily implicit, and
neither is it uncontrollable, as you seem to say.
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that.
See the example.
I don't see how the example examplifies this.
It is obvious to me that you have misunderstood something. I don't
know what yet, though.
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programming and a supportive environment.
No, I think the misunderstanding is that you are overcomplicating
something that is really quite simple. But I'm not sure.
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in separate classes called view-classes.
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. That makes Python
superiour in many ways. ;-)
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On 1/6/06, bruno desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 1/6/06, bruno desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not even - Python is byte-compiled too. The difference is that the
Python interpreter (call it 'VM' if you think that 'interpreter' isn't
buzzword
(you basically need to rewrite your
applictaion completely) and unless you plan on doing that anyway, you
should probably just stick with Zope 2 for the time being. :)
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Oh, I forgot:
http://blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blogs/lennart_regebro/2005_10_04_zope2-vs-zope3-faq
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Is this new behaviour intented ?
I know that this behaviour occurs when you use Python 2.4.x.
Ouch, that's bad. Do you have any more refereces to this?
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| myproduct.py
| configure.zcml
| interfaces.py
/ browser
| __init__.py
| configure.zcml
| aview.py
| aview.pt
/ doc
/ tests
/ locales
with adapters.py added if you have many adapters, and interfaces.py
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On 1/17/06, Jürgen Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi all!
does anybody have a five product that uses i18n that i can have a look at?
i don't seem to get it right...
Yeah, the CalZope trunk does it:
http://svn.nuxeo.org/trac/pub/browser/CalZope/trunk/
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?
- do i have to compile the .pos to .mos by hand?
Yes.
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On 1/18/06, Jürgen Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. does the translation also work with page template files?
Yes. The work either when you use i18n.translate() from python, or
when you do i18n:something in ZPT.
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On 1/23/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Never store a reference to a persistent object inside a non-persistent
object.
I don't think this is a useful warning.
Unless you expect to retrieve it after a server restart. ;)
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be the easiest way of
improving the performance in this case. That's my guess.
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(unless there is
something actually wrong).
As always, profiling is probably a good idea *before* trying to fix
performnce problems. ;)
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running, what third-party products you are using and no on.
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of global registy it
will most likely fail.
Personally I haven't had a situation trivial enough for refresh to
work for years...
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happy to try to solve by participating in the discussion.
Yeah, well I would be very happy if the refresh could be improved, but
sadly I don't understand it well enough, and those who do doesn't seem
to care about improving it.
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On 1/30/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lennart Regebro wrote at 2006-1-30 15:18 +0100:
...
Personally I haven't had a situation trivial enough for refresh to
work for years...
As I reported earlier, all that is needed is a small tool
to allows to register product dependencies
then that explains my slow
rate of development.
Well, the development speed is not higher because you use these
frameworks. It's just they they have done a lot of generally useful
work, so you don't have to develop it.
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coding but I don't know how to connect it with
zope database. Is this method possible?
Yes, absolutely, but then you are no longer using a Web-browser. :-)
But sure, that works fine too.
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. Don't do that.
How come Plone's interface is so useable and a delight to work with? How was
that financed?
Because it's pretty? :-)
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On 2/10/06, Allen Huang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Lennart Regebro
Thanks for replying. If I use the python GUI, which you mention that it no
longer use a brower, how would I use GUI to interact with zope database?
That depends on what method you decide to use to interact
it. Although the next time you do something
that complex you might want to look into making a disk-based prodct
instead. It's often easier for complex features.
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this after Zope 2.4.0. So I still think
you are talking about something else.
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call it directly will not be
accessible, and that's how it has to be.
More importantly, however, how would one go about making available objects
shared by many subfolders each with its own group of users?
That depends very much on what type of objects it is and why you want
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On 2/13/06, Kees de Brabander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[cb] And what are my options if I want to call f1_index directly from f11?
Placing your acl_users folder higher up.
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zodb_users plugins, I think.
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application server. Others are CPS and Silva.
Both CPS and Plone has some of the functionality you wanted, so you
may be able to avoid writing as much there. Download them and check
them out.
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symptoms, not your guesses.
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. :-)
And this problem pops up all the time. But for some reason, everytime
it pops up, we ask for a reproducibale testcase, and nobody can
provide it. :-)
So, can you provide a reproducible testcase, so we can figure out of
it really is a bug or not?
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want to use that instead of DTML. It's largely a matter
of taste, I definitely prefer ZPT, but as long as you keep *all*
logic from the
template it becomes less important.
See also:
http://blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blogs/lennart_regebro/2005_04_19_python_statement
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of Zope.
Also Zope3 has developed some really cool technologies like
zope.interfaces and zope.components and zope.i18n that are useable
outside of web applications.
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in PHP whereas there is going to be a
learning curve with Python, and Zope.
Python has no lurning curve. It's more of a lurning slope. Downhill. ;-)
But Zope has one, admittedly.
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do I code this up? (Hope someone understands what I'm getting at)
It sounds like you need a CMS. Take a look at CPS:
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On 3/6/06, J Cameron Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 3/6/06, Rainsford, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I never said thanks to all you guys for your advice - it all came in
very useful. In the end though, I have decided to go with another
system, Knowledge Tree
with all
products you use.
2. Copy the old ZODB to the new instance.
3. Do whatever needed for your products to upgrade.
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On 3/13/06, Martin Koekenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I get the following error: gaierror: (-2, 'Name or service not known')
http://plone.org/documentation/error/gaierror
Seems to be a failure to do a ns lookup.
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then.
As a good reason as any not to write or later. :-)
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Migration can either be done by reusing the SQL-database you used in
Zope, or by writing an import script. It's a matter of taste.
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if it works with Plone yet, though.
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ZopeTime is not available.
What is the error message? It seems to work for me.
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On 3/30/06, JoseLuis de la Rosa Triviño
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However, I have created the profile needed to install WhoOnline in CPS using
CMFGenericSetup, how could I share this code?
That would be mostly of interest to the author of WhoOnline, I guess.
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On 3/30/06, Cyrille Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, just to push the problem a bit further: ideally, I'd like to put
SSL just on the login form. Zope would authenticate the user in that
request and return a session ID that would then be passed back and
forth in each request (without SSL).
for SSO. It's simple
and secure and easy to implement.
My PAS plugin is available at http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro . I
have a CookieCrumbler type thingy somewhere too.
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and it doesn't integrate with existing
authentication systems, right? (no NTLM and it uses kerberos but on it's
own)
It can use NTML as well, it's just a question of how you validate the
username and password. But it still means dual logins.
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On 4/3/06, Andreas Krasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and
dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com.
Seems to work now. At least for me.
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On 4/3/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...and it'll need to go in runzope.bat, if 2.5 actually has that...
My memory of 2.5 is hazy, but I think it was called start.bat then.
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On 4/4/06, Brian Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seems like a strategic design mistake though doesn't it?
Which one? Calling adders + or creating objects called +? ;-)
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On 4/14/06, shivayogi kumbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it because of the change in the version of ZODB, in zope2.7.3 they have
used the 3.2.4c version ZODB , and
in ZOPE2.9.2 used 3.6.0 version ZODB.
No.
Sir Lennart Regebro has suggested me to copy and paste the data.fs file
from
On 4/14/06, Jaroslav Lukesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Zopistas,
How to do in DTML something similar in python:
foo[1] = 3.5
You call a python file that does it. Really, you don't want to start
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that used ISO.Week() but is there a more straight forward
approach ?
Well, steal some code from
http://svn.nuxeo.org/trac/pub/file/CalCore/trunk/src/calcore/isoweek.py
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On 5/2/06, Benjamin Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My problem: I need to access the DOM. I need to pass a value from a
form field to a python script.
Well.. this is normally done with a form post. :)
An XML-RPC call would be another way.
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security is based on being authenticated, so no. What you can do
it let the Flash app login as a special user, and make the files only
accessible to that user. To prevent people from sneaking the password
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empty as a side-effect of
something, or because it explicitly is supposed to return something
useful when evaluated, who in this case happens to be empty/false, is
besides the point. It should be easy to figure out if you read the
source, though. :-)
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recent effort for this.
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/CHANGES.txt is your friend.
And also, the announcements:
http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.9.0/Zope-2_9_0-released
Some new features of Zope 2.9:
* ZODB 3.6
* Five 1.3
* integration for Zope 3 events for object creation and deletion
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foundation for Plone,
Silva, CPS etc. CMS's?
Answer: Yes.
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a new one and copy the database. Not import, just copy
from the old site to the new.
Zope needs no other procedures for upgrading. Plone may need it, but
that's a Plone issue, ask on the Plone lists for that.
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. The Foundation can determine how to
implement this, but those paying for and providing services should
receive acknowledgment.
Yeah, good idea!
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preferr the last one fo the reasons
above.
This way, you would have an integrating site (zope.org)
which would be able to provide integrationg services, e.g.
a search where you are interested in a concept and
happy to find hits in faq, wiki, product,...
That can be done anyway.
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will have to pay sometbdy to create content
on the site, which to me seems to be a complete waste of money, when
reasonably the community members should do that themselves.
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. And it looks bad if the
community is a hodgepodge of domains and URLs.
I say that you repost this proposal when we have some community sites
to integrate. :-)
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On 6/25/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd beg to differ. A community such as what PHP has built didn't work
this way. They managed this very successfully. We have not. I think
the problem is you want to wait until the complete city is built before
you think you can open select
adminstrator.
Are you sure he want to administer not one but several
Zope installations?
No. I do not want one person a manging everything. :-)
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Plone.
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and center of
several small focused site, that should be possible.
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?
No, because I have a job during weeks. However, say next month or two
instead, then, if somebody gives me the computer and internet
connection to host it on, yes I can do this.
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On 6/28/06, Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He meant use an Apache rewrite rule, I think.
Oh. My excuses in that case.
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Actually, I think python: expressions perform slightly better than
their path: counterparts because their evaluation step needs to do
less work (no guessing about getitem vs. getattr). Geoff Davis
taught me that. But in the end it's all
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surroundings.
How can I have the absolute_url at object's __getattribute__?
You can't, unless you bend over backwards, and there are surely easier
ways to do whatever you are trying to do.
What are you trying to achieve?
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, when the best way to get to the wall is to get out
of the dead-end street and then take left. :)
So in short: Why on earth would you want page templates to be catalogaware? :)
Sure but Is the cost so big?
Yes.
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for an object every objects below these one
are catalogued by my product
Uhhh. That doesn't help.
What do you think?
Sound fine. I notice that in all of your description above there is a
complete lack of indexed page templates. ;)
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