Re: [Zope-dev] I smell commercial interest: PLOPE
Andy McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We thought Plop was a better name that Plope btw ;) This would only cause confusion with Plob. All the good names are already taken :-) http://lki-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~kirschke/diplom/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] XMLRPC and Basic Auth problems
Casey Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The server returns a 200 response status. Strangly, the response headers do include WWW-Authenticate. So, the xml-rpc code must be changing the response status. Yes. It's probably this piece in ZPublisher/xmlrpc.py: --cut-- # Do the damage. self.setBody(f) self._real.setStatus(200) --cut-- Damage, indeed :-) or better :-( ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Enhanced MailHost (was: Speaking of 2.6...)
Hello Brian. * Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-17 20:29]: Ok. I'd like to run the mbox thing by Jim to see if he has any The product now uses a Maildir-style approach to deal with concurrent writes. The creation of the file name uses time(), gethostname() and randint() to hopefully create enough uniqueness in the names. reservations about that (writing to the FS, potential effect on security, etc.) The flooding problem still is not solved. For production sites it's probably a good idea to turn off the backup to prevent DOS attacks. But for debugging it's a valuable tool. with MailHost up-to-date). Chris McDonough is nominally in charge of making sure doc updates are taken care of ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can send doc updates (or pointers to them) to him. Okay, I'll write it if the okay from the BDFL is here ;-) Cheers, Nils -- i.A. Nils Kassube Software Engineering c o m . u n i t G m b H online-schmiede seit 1994 http://www.comunit.de/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Eiffestr. 598 20537 Hamburg | Germany Fon 040 | 21 11 05 25 Fax 040 | 21 11 05 26 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues
* Jim Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001-06-20 19:12]: As far as I can tell you are wrong, but there are certainly gray areas. The last time this came up I wrote such a scenario up and tried to get FSF clarification. Nothing ever came back. I got a clarification from the FSF. It's in the mailing list archives at http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2000-September/118024.html Some topics never die :-) Cheers, Nils ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope] FSF about Zope and GPL'ed components
== Forwarded Message == Date: 19.09.2000 16:57 Uhr Received: 19.09.2000 22:58 Uhr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Free Software Foundation) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nils Kassube) Nils Kassube wrote: If I use a GPL'ed component in a complex object oriented environment like Zope, does this mean that the whole work is now subject to the GPL? work = Zope-based web site/web application use = e.g. subclassing it or method calls, etc. It sounds like you are building software that combines Zope and GPL'ed software to form a single, larger program. In this case, the whole larger program falls under the terms of the GPL. This is a real problem, since the license of Zope is incompatible with the GNU GPL. This means you can't legally distribute the system. If the GPL applies to the entire work, the resulting question is: How do I separate my work inside a Zope-based application from GPL'ed pieces to prevent this from happening? Or do I have to rewrite the GPL part? You cannot legally combined GPL'ed software with Zope. You'll need to rewrite the Zope part and release the software under a license compatible with the Zope license, or you'll need to convince the developers of Zope to make their license compatible with the GPL. (In the latter case, the whole system would be covered by the GPL, so you'd still be bound by the terms of the GPL---the only difference would be that it'd be legally to distribute the system, since Zope wouldn't be GPL-incompatible anymore.) Everything would be easy, if we would only be talking about programs like Emacs but Zope products/modules/components/whatever look more like libraries to me... Regardless of whether or not a program is a library, when you combine it with GPL'ed software to form a larger program, all of the code in the system falls under the terms of the GPL. -- Bradley M. Kuhn Free Software Foundation | Phone: +1-617-542-5942 59 Temple Place, Suite 330 | Fax: +1-617-542-2652 Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA | Web: http://www.gnu.org == End Forwarded Message == ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZOPE - Size reduction ???
Guten Abend. Er, this is fine if you're building a new box (and if you're using simple IDE drives) but rather less so if you've exceeded the capacity on an existing system and/or you're using SCSI drives. I use Ultra Wide SCSI on my main workstation. Compared to what I had to pay for a 20 MB HD for my Amiga ten years ago, it is really cheap :-) Of course, storage is rather expensive if you're held hostage by a proprietary workstation company with ridiculous pricing for HDs like e.g. HP. heat problems) but you've still got to manage allocation of storage to the new drive. If there isn't space then you're talking about adding in another box (rather less cheap) or transferring the data from old to new - slow and the accountants won't be happy about writing off the old one. I don't know the situation in the Wintel world, but I did this with Macintosh and Unix systems. I've also always been able to reuse the old box for different purposes. To stay on topic with Zope: You don't have to retire the old system, instead you could use ZEO... =:- In addition you have to worry about the cost of the time taken to perform any of the above. Yes, but you also have to consider the opportunity cost. It's not exactly a productive use of the time of your highly paid developers to think about things like adhering to disk quotas. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill
Dario Lopez-Ksten wrote: and then, when you want to distribute your modifications, you find yourself in a bad position, because it will mean that you would have to give everybody else the same rights that allowed you to distribute a modification of someone elses work, in the first place? What if I can't distribute the modifications or a web site built using GPL'ed components because I also use a commercial library in it? To quote Dave Winer: "[The GPL is] designed to create a wall between commercial development and free development. The world is not that simple. There are plenty of commercial developers who participate in open source. Python belongs in commercial products. How does that hurt Python?" I _do_ want to give something back to the community, but I do not want to be forced to give away for free every piece of code I wrote because some silly person thinks it's okay to earn money with everything else but it's morally wrong to earn money with software development. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill
Jim Hebert wrote: Look, I'm the last person on earth to say the GPL is perfect, or is the one true license, or anything else. I've heard a number of GOOD arguments in a number of venues about why the GPL may not be the best choice in that setting. From: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-09-07-011-21-OS-CY-SW --cut-- LT: From your viewpoint, should the differences between your licenses and the GPL attract or deter developers? GVR: Both. It may deter GPL hardliners (but there seem to be few of these in the Python world). But it attracts developers from the proprietary world like I mentioned above. Many of these "proprietary" companies are major contributors to Python and other open source products. For example the new Unicode support and regular expression engine, as well as several existing core library modules, were contributed by people who also develop proprietary Python software --cut-- But this thread boils down to a bunch of people who want to sell a solution which includes work other than their own, receive all the money from the sale, bar the client from getting other 3rd parties to help them improve what they paid for, and further have a legal monopoly on distributing that solution to any additional people. Looks like these people displaying "utter bald-faced greed and ingratitude" by developing proprietary software based on open source products are important to Guido van Rossum. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope 2.2.1 and python 1.6
Jon Nathan wrote: could break code. can i run zope 2.2.1 on python 1.6 or should i stick with 1.5.2? According to Guido van Rossum in http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-09-07-011-21-OS-CY-SW you are not able to use GPL'ed Zope products with Python 1.6 (or 2.0) until the dispute is settled. | GVR: It should be clear by now that the future of the Python license | is not in my hands (nor in BeOpen's hands) but in the hands of CNRI | and Richard Stallman. If they can't agree on changes to the 1.6 | license or a different interpretation of GPL compatibility by the FSF, | the final release of Python 2.0 (planned for early October) will be | incompatible with the GPL. Stallman has already mentioned that in that | case he will attempt to maintain a GPL-compatible fork of Python, | probably based on version 1.5.2. This would be a great waste of time | for all, but I can't stop him. Well, possibly we'll lose the GPL'ed Zope components this way. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope 2.2.1 and python 1.6
Guten Abend. I recalled (?) my mail within a few minutes after sending. It didn't yet appear on the mailing list. Too bad you can't cancel a mail like a Usenet posting. They can only constrain *distribution* of that software and derived works. This is a serious problem for software authors, but not for people running Zope-based sites. I think a lot of the people running Zope sites are developing software too. If you use e.g. ZSQL methods and DTML to connect to a database, you _are_ a software author. Website development in Zope is actually programming. Well, but now it's time for the big soccer match in Hamburg =:- Cheers, Nils ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zope 2.2.1 and python 1.6
I wrote a lot of nonsense: you are not able to use GPL'ed Zope products with Python 1.6 (or 2.0) until the dispute is settled. This is WRONG. Of course it is possible to use GPL'ed software with less restrictive licensed programs. Must be the starting alcohol intoxication because of the Hamburg vs Juventus Turin game in the Champions League :-) Prosit, Nils ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill
Jim Hebert wrote: Third, again, you're responding as though the discussion is about re-licensing all of Zope under the, which simply isn't what anyone has I'm only pointing out what I think is a problem with using a GPL'ed component in a Zope site. My Zope-specific problem is: If I use a GPL'ed component in a complex object oriented environment like Zope, does this mean that the whole work is now subject to the GPL? work = Zope-based web site/web application use = e.g. subclassing it or method calls, etc. proposed. Again, one side suggests that no one ever write a zope product under the GPL, ever, that we all standardize on a more liberal license, Who did this? A strawman. Again, please explain a reason why you should dictate to every person who wants to write a zope module why they shouldn't get to have the license of their choice. My advocacy protects your choice, your advocacy destroys other peoples'. Sorry, but all I wrote was this: | I hope Zope product developers think twice about using the GPL. I don't dictate anything. No one here does. Get a life^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HPeace. I am not interested in a discussion about the merits of the GPL or the GNU project, I'm only interested in the practical implications of using GPL'ed Zope components. I'm sure there are people working on components who would like to share their software and don't realize that by using the GPL they make it impossible or difficult to use their code for commercial development. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill
Oleg Broytmann wrote: LICENSE GPL I've seen several Zope products using the GPL. In my not so humble opinion, this could develop into a serious problem for Zope deployment. I'm not a lawyer (nor do I play one on TV), but the use of GPL'ed source code like e.g. Renderable ZClass in your web site probably means that you're now forced to publish every single bit of source built using the GPL'ed module -- including commercial intranet projects. This can be impossible if you don't own the rights to every single piece of code used in a project. I hope Zope product developers think twice about using the GPL. The GPL license is not about sharing like e.g. the BSD license, it's about enforcing the political agenda of people who think that commercial ("proprietary") software w/o source code is evil. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill
Danny William Adair wrote: Is it not possible to take a few GPLed Zope products, add your own effort of configuring, integrating, building, (re-)designing, and even documenting the outcome of your efforts and - ___sell___ this? Maybe not only to _one_ customer, but burn a CD and sell it to _a couple_ of customers? You can sell it but... AFAIK you risk that everyone else can copy your effort for free if you built software on GPL'ed code. And what's only a compilation and what's a derived work (subject to the GPL) is up to the lawyers. Personally, I try to avoid legal ambiguities. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill
Magnus Alvestad wrote: Third, you are only obligated to distribute source to parties you have already distributed the binary version to. I can't really see a customer buying a zope site from you and not expecting 'source' anyway. The problem is not that a client who paid for custom development will get the source. It's the fact that you have to release the source code of an enhanced GPL'ed component (and possibly stuff built with it) for everyone else, too. Another issue is that in a complex object oriented environment like Zope it's difficult to determine if you only used a GPL'ed component or "embraced and extended" it. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison
Jason Cunliffe wrote: What's missing? For example, everything with Java (e.g. Apple WebObjects) or Perl (e.g. Mason). There is a good overview of Content Management Systems at http://www.camworld.com/cms/ For each of above I'd like to fill in the following: {'name':"name", 'features':{feature dict},'pro':[pros], 'con':[cons] } That's a bit difficult to do because we don't know what you want to do with a CMS/web application platform. Manila, for instance, is a nice end-user weblog application but not a replacement for a real web app server. If was more adept in DTML was I could put up a comparative poll page though I suspect most here would respond like you Nils. I'm only an innocent Computer Science student who still thinks that in Real Life (tm) outside university you research competing solutions before selecting a product :-) Anyone else seeing the parallel to software mentioned in Douglas Adams' "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"? Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison
Jason Cunliffe wrote: I need to present the arguments for why we haev chosen Zope vs. Others. Does anyone know of a clear at-a-glance table or anything with the main contenders, features, price, licensing etc. You didn't collect this data _before_ choosing Zope? :-) Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Problem with zope mailing list
Francois-Regis CHALAOUX wrote: Any idea ? A broken X.400 e-mail gateway? Your sysadmin should be able to help you. | Received: (from x400@localhost) | by gtlhpmed.paris.sanofi.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) id PAA29215 | for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:38:29 +0200 (METDST) | Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text | X400-MTS-Identifier: [/P=SANOFI/A=ATLAS/C=FR/;39AE6FD6.32D4.06A7.000] Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How do I create a folder full of virtual DTML objectsfrom records in a database records in a database
R. David Murray wrote: http://www.yoursite.com/yourmethod/recordid This is really easy to do. Now, what do I have to do if I want to use URLs like this: http://www.yoursite.com/events/recordid/index.html http://www.yoursite.com/events/recordid/pics.html http://www.yoursite.com/events/recordid/[...]/edit The real data is stored in a RDBMS, only the user interface templates are in the ZODB. Currently I use the obvious: http://www.yoursite.com/events_display_info/recordid http://www.yoursite.com/events_display_pics/recordid etc. Is it possible to use methods which get the recordid and a possible /edit extension from the URL and create the requested objects on the fly? There was a discussion about this topic a few months ago but I don't remember the exact circumstances so it's difficult to search for in the mailing list archive. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [newbie] cgi-tasks howto? stupid question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rajil Saraswat) wrote: No isee the rendered page in the browser but i donot see the dtml-var valname value. it just gives a blank. is something wrong here. Weird. Are you absolutely, positively sure that you use the DTML source you published here? I mean are you sure that the action attribute of the form tag is pointing to the right method? Or is it perhaps possible that the source in the print method somehow was changed? Please check twice, I made similiar mistakes in the past. Like everyone else doing software development... :-) Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Programmierungshilfe
[Sorry for writing in German.] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruno Nana) wrote: [Die deutschsprachige Mailing-Liste zu Zope kann man auf http://mailman.beehive.de/mailman/listinfo/zope abonnieren. Diese Liste, [EMAIL PROTECTED], ist üblicherweise englischsprachig.] Und alle diese Tabellen habe ich definiert und initialisiert, bei bestimmten Sachen werden die einige Tabelle gefunden, oder andere Tabellen gar nicht. In welchem DBMS, Name und Version sind hilfreich, wurden die Tabellen definiert? Wie wird auf sie zugegriffen? Wie ist die Rechtevergabe? Welches Betriebssystem? Auffällig ist doch schon einmal, daß die Probleme scheinbar nur auftreten, wenn versucht wird, Datensätze zu löschen. Bitte könnte jemanden mir helfen, diese Fehler aufzuheben? Vielleicht :-) Tip: Wenn man andere um Hilfe bitte, immer alle relevanten Informationen mitliefern. Wenn man im Zweifel ist, lieber zuviel Details geben als zuwenig. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [newbie] cgi-tasks howto? stupid question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rajil Saraswat) wrote: browser with the name as valname. Then how do i print this valname thru dtml. This is easy. dtml-var valname See the rules for "Name Lookup" in the DTML Reference Guide. There are circumstances where it's not so simple... ofcourse i checked out with the guides but could locate cgi calls, That's so because the documentation sucks^H^H^H^H^Hneeds to be improved. Digital Creations is aware of this. ps: dont kick me out, everybody has to have a start. We are all gentle tolerant people here. Well, most of the time. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [newbie] cgi-tasks howto? stupid question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rajil Saraswat) wrote: i tried out this but this isnt working out for me. can you point out the error. The DTML source is okay. This should work. when i submit the form the print page is outputted but the value of the textbox(valname) is not outputted. whats wrong? What do you mean by "the print page is outputted"? Do you see the source? Or is only the dtml-var valname part not displayed? Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Howto engineer a scientific paper system
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: build on. What I did not find about LaTeX was a screenshot (isn't it a wysiwg enviroment on top of TeX marked-up text) and a content link No. LaTeX is, simply phrased, a collection of macros and templates for the TeX system. They include a lot of professional typesetting and design know-how which is applied dynamically to the document, so the author of the paper can concentrate on the content, rather than on the layout. You can still give explicit layout commands, if you know what you're doing. (Most people imho don't.) LyX is a document processor for Unix and Win32 building on the LaTeX/TeX engine which uses a wysiwym approach. It's worth one or two looks: http://www.lyx.org/about/ Yes, there are screenshots =:- XML stuff in zope. Which leads me to the later suggestion, I have tried out DocBook product, rendering is very slow on my computer. You could use any of the tools on http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/tools/index.html and then import the exported HTML and PDF documents to your Zope installations to avoid the speed penalty. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Howto engineer a scientific paper system
Pavlos Christoforou wrote: contents in the formats required by most journals. Check also Lynx which Lynx is text-only web browser with a code open for lots of potential security issues. [A quick look to my TV: Netherlands vs. Italy still 0-0, okay, so I can write a bit more...] is a minimal (last i checked) wysiwig environment for Latex. What you're looking for is called LyX: http://www.lyx.org It's not really a WYSIWYG but a self described "what you see is what you mean" editor. Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Howto engineer a scientific paper system
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In short, I would like to have Zope assist me in producing a scientific paper. Why do you want to use Zope for this? What's the expected advantage against using e.g. LaTeX? Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] PowerMac 7500 with LinuxPPC and Zope?
Guten Abend. Should I consider a different linux distribution than PPC? SuSE 6.4 is now also available for the Power Macintosh and other PowerPC platforms. I'm very interested in knowing if Zope runs as good on SuSE/PPC as on SuSE/x86. Please try it... :-) Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Howto engineer a scientific paper system
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better integration into the Web, resources should be accessible on the fly. I would like to have the sources of my ideas packed close You can have this with LaTeX _and_ an excellent quality of the printed document. together with the actual content I am producing, delving into a particular subject should then be straight forward. However, I have never used LaTeX. You should change this :-) A few URLs to get you started: TeX User's Group http://www.tug.org/ A Guide to LaTeX: Third Edition http://cseng.aw.com/bookdetail.qry?ISBN=0-201-39825-7 The LaTeX Web Companion: Integrating TeX, HTML, and XML http://cseng.aw.com/bookdetail.qry?ISBN=0-201-43311-7ptype=0 Cheers, Nils -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Question about dtml-in sorting
Patrick J.M. Keane wrote: I get the opposite behaviour. Any easy way to reverse the sort order? Well, I found there _is_ a reverse attribute to the dtml-in tag, but it's not documented in my version (2.1.0, 1999/12/17) of the DTML Reference. It works. Cheers, Nils ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS
Bill Anderson wrote: GVIM Yes! This is a powerful editor with an easy-to-use interface available for every major platform (and a lot of minor ones): http://www.vim.org http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?EmacsVsVi I use Vim daily on Mac OS, Win98 and Unix (Linux, Slowlaris) and love the consistent cross-plattform UI. Cheers, Nils ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )