[Zope] Re: ZWiki Problems on Zope.org
Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martijn Pieters wrote: How did you get to that URL? It has 'NewUserPortal' in there twice. If I remove the redundant 'NewUserPortal/' part of the URL, everything works fine. Chris "d'Oh!"s quietly to himself and goes to hide in a corner... I think it must have been a temporary glitch or me just typing a crap URL in... :( There were ways to fall into these repeated paths in earlier versions of the dtml shipped with zwiki.. searching from the editform or backlinks comes to mind. In 0.6 I tried to solve this once and for all with the wiki_base_url method. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] July 20th Zope Weekly News
ethan mindlace fremen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: o Wikis are now searchable - and they have history, too! This was a little bumpy, with Steve Alexandar pointing out a search bug. Yay! where can we see this ? -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] packing on ZSPs (was Re: [Zope] zope.org down)
ethan mindlace fremen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, folks, zope.org is down again, because the site was packed without enough space on the device. ... To keep this from happening again, we will be adding an additional 40gb drive that should do us just fine until the Data.fs hits 2 GB. This is a general problem for zope service providers and their users; I wonder how we can resolve it ? Related, though specific to Codeit users: I need to pack to avoid the above, but fear the data-corrupting packing bugs which were fixed in more recent versions of zope. Codeit, perhaps time for an upgrade ? At least to 2.1.6 ? Best regards -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] new wiki functionality/zope.org issues
Hi Ethan, ethan mindlace fremen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: o Wikis are now searchable - and they have history, Yay! where can we see this ? Search for anything. If the icon is a white page with a bunch of funny black squiggies, that's a zWiki page :) Yah I found the zwiki pages alright :) but couldn't find any trace of the new search or history functionality ? I've been a bit out of touch so forgive me if this is documented somewhere obvious. A few more comments: 2. a search for "test" found WikiNG, http://www.zope.org//Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/WikiNG which gives an error, attached. 3. looks like you're gathering at least some of the wikis into /Wikis/* .. nice mnemonic url. Could you make http://zope.org/Wikis give a list/overview ? or an alias to wikicentral. 4. could we auto-login with cookies like eg slashdot ? I'm never logged in when I need to edit a wiki and doing so is quite disruptive. And, or, make the login page auto-redirect back to where I came from. It's great to have someone visible and active working on this stuff - thanks, -Simon Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/dc/Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 222, in publish_module File /usr/local/dc/Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 187, in publish File /usr/local/dc/Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: ElementWithAttributes) File /usr/local/dc/Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 171, in publish File /usr/local/dc/Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: WikiNG) File /usr/local/dc/Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: WikiNG) File /usr/local/dc/org/Products/ZWiki/ZWikiPage.py, line 150, in __call__ (Object: WikiNG) File /usr/local/dc/Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 167, in __call__ (Object: standard_wiki_header) File /usr/local/dc/Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 502, in __call__ (Object: standard_wiki_header) File /usr/local/dc/Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 163, in __call__ (Object: standard_html_header) File /usr/local/dc/Zope-2.2.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 502, in __call__ (Object: standard_html_header) KeyError: www_base
[Zope] zwiki mailing list ? RFC
I'm getting a steady trickle of private mail, interesting comments patches, all of which would benefit the community but currently end up mouldering in my mail archives. I'm thinking of activating the zwiki mailing list at sourceforge, as a repository for the above and perhaps a testbed for mailing-list/zwikiweb integration. On the other hand I'm against too much fragmentation of our discussions - things are bad enough already! - and I like to use the zope list where possible. If you have any thoughts either way, I'd like to hear 'em. - Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zwiki mailing list ? RFC
"Geoff Gardiner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could this be done by moving joyful/zwiki to zope.org? If so, we could use the same (zope@ and zope-dev@ + wiki) mechanisms so long as there is clarity between the aims of ZWiki and WikiNG (clearly posted on both wikis). I'd be open to this if it were advantageous.. don't see a problem at the moment. Trying to keep abreast of an active sourceforge/zwiki as well as joyful/zwiki, zope/WikiNG, zope@ and zope-dev@ at the same time would be even more of a trial than I find it now. I can definitely relate (just surveyed all of the zope.org wikis). What I had in mind was mirroring the zwiki mail list to zwikiweb; you would not have to visit both. I've seen mail/zwiki integration in a few places but I'm not sure if it has been solved well yet. Really I'm looking for something new which combines the best features of a wiki, a mailing list and a newsgroup. Has anyone got any ideas on this ? -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZWiki RecentChanges don't work in Zope 2.2.x
what Martijn said (thanks Martijn). Another quick workaround mentioned on ZWikiProblems: you could remove the calls to getSize and similar attributes from your recentchanges page. Then Access Contents Information should be sufficient. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] SiteAccess2, Zope 2.2.2, __no_before_traverse__
You need to set an environment variable and restart zope, see the siteaccess2 documentation on zope.org for more details. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] OT: PythonLabs Team Moves to Digital Creations!
Fantastic news. Congrats! ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Id ZopeStudio Dead?
Also, for windows try Zope Stud (products area). It's an alpha and doesn't do much but what's there works extremely well. It makes a nice wiki browser too. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Python Methods Vote
Just view the poll again. Everything but "python method" has been getting trounced so far. How come "python function" isn't there, again ? Isn't that what they actually are ? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZMethod (Safe)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Damn, I am beginning to think that Tame Snake Thingy and Wild Snake Thingy are the best yet! Yeah! new poll please :) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Is data.fs corrupted?
Thanks for the informative thread. FWIW, I see this problem too. It's preventing me from importing various PTK Membership .zexp's. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] why DTML confusing
Irene Barg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. You can print the values of sequence-items with: (index=dtml-var sequence-index, number=dtml-var sequence-number, item=dtml-var sequence-item) 2. To test for equality, this does not: dtml-if "sequence-index == 0" (dtml-var count-adassnum Records found) /dtml-if 3. While this does work: dtml-if "_['sequence-index'] == 0" (dtml-var count-adassnum Records found) /dtml-if I say this is confusing. Don't tell me to read the Namespace How-to, or the Zope User Guides, I did, and it's still confusing! Unless you find an example, that does exactly what you want, trying to figure it out with the documentation available can be difficult. I found my answer to this in the "How-To: (How-to) access the field names and fields of any arbitrary ZSQL query", but it took a lot of searching the Zope site for references to 'dtml-in'. I get so frustrated with DTML, I want to scream. Please don't tell me to buy the Zope book, DTML should be more intuitive. DTML maybe the heart of Zope, but it's also it's achilles heel. -- irene -- Irene BargEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steward Observatory Phone: 520-621-2602 933 N. Cherry Ave. University of Arizona FAX:520-621-1891 Tucson, AZ 85721 http://nickel.as.arizona.edu/~barg -- ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] why DTML confusing
Charlie Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...or "the python world with some Zope limitations placed on it." ... There's a third world of course, HTML. Most of us probably have that True, true. Actually this sounds like a good structure for a overview doc: "Welcome to Zope.. in which we shall encounter 1. the plain of Text 2. the fields of HTML 3. the DTML domain 4. the ZClass lands 5. the Scripting realms; in which dwell Expressions, Methods and Python/Perl/XSLT" 6. the unbound Scripting realms; here be External Methods 7. the halls of the Serpent; where dwell it's Products Descend now into.. DC's Seven Circles Of Hell." (affectionately misnamed :-) -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] opinions please
The ZMailIn product may be of interest. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Python Script demo site
"Evan Simpson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few announcements. First, in the interests of sanity and getting things moving, I'm choosing the only name other than "Python Method" to get a positive score in the naming poll. For the sake of future votes: did you actually hold a second poll ? Last I heard was a call for name candidates, which I thought would be the basis for a poll. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] html expertise anyone.
Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to change the colour of links dynamically using dtml. However, I cannot find the right incantation to change my links using an inline style except for a href=A style="color: red"A/a Do you mean something like a href="A" style="color: dtml-linkcolor;"A/a I guess this is dynamic at page load time. Perhaps you want the colors to change without refreshing the page ? -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZWiki hierarchy seems to be broken
do you see more than one page name in your url path - eg FrontPage/FrontPage ? are you acquiring a different standard_wiki_header from somewhere ? are you failing to acquire it ? (does page source include "!-- end of default_wiki_header --" ?) are permissions ok ? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZWiki hierarchy seems to be broken
Timothy Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just went digging through all the properties of the pages that didn't have headers, and compared them to the properties for the pages that did, and I noticed that they were all parented wrong! I didn't think to look there. I had changed the name of the FrontPage to something else, which broke all the parent links. Ahhh. That's good to know. So the header was there, but showing no parents. And ideally all parent links would get adjusted on page rename or deletion. Frank is your problem similar ? Does reparenting a few pages improve the situation ? Best regards -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZWiki hierarchy seems to be broken
Wait! Is this what you've been seeing ? http://joyful.com/zwiki/link ie no title at all ? That's a BUG, thank you. Looks like certain pages, like the above and http://joyful.com/zwiki/page%20about%20nothing , get an empty string from context() and don't appear in the map. Both the above point to SandBox as their parent, and SandBox points to MyNewTestPage, and MyNewTestPage points back to SandBox. Maybe something about that tight loop. When one goes to SandBox/backlinks and clicks reparent, all pages look normal again. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZWikiWebs Product
Off the top of my head - you don't mention whether they have Add ZWiki Webs permission - presumably they do are you using the zwikiwebs.zexp shipped with zwiki ? The separate zwikiwebs product is due to be retired and not recommended. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zwiki 0.40 released, news for 2005/03
What is it Zwiki is a Zope product for building wikis - a special kind of website that's easy for anyone to edit. See http://zwiki.org for more. What's changed Bugfixes, new japanese translation, chinese translation updates, new search option. See release notes below. Zwiki news this month We have been quiet but not idle. Bill Page and Martijn Pieters contributed fixes, T.C. Chou updated the chinese translations and Masaya Kato and a team of fellow translators contributed a japanese translation. Zettai.net made a donation, again, in support of Zwiki development and hosting. Thank you! Bug reporting rate has been low and steady; bug closing rate has been low. The next Zwiki Bug Day is.. today! april 1st being the first friday of the month. I wasn't ready but it's going on anyway as scheduled, help at http://zwiki.org/BugDay and #zwiki if you can. In the documentation department I am doing a little work on http://zwiki.org/NewAdministratorsGuide each day. Discussion on the list, UserDiscussion page and irc channel has been light. We've had a few incidents of wiki spam this month, both intentional and otherwise. I switched zwiki.org to mail out all edits, to make this more visible; we list subscribers are adapting to the increased level of traffic and have discussed how to batch related edits into fewer mails. This month I resolved to focus on QA for 2005: "Alright.. this may be difficult, but (deep breath): I resolve not to work on new Zwiki features in 2005. I may well accept them from others, but I won't do them myself. This is to focus (my) energy on refactoring, cleanup, polish, docs, and fixing "broken windows". More: in case that was unclear, this is not Zwiki winding down; it's a quality push for 1.0. Feature work from others is welcome as ever. tasks that are funded in some way will almost always jump to the head of the queue and become priority no. 1, as before." See http://zwiki.org/ZwikiRoadmap2005 for more. Zopewiki news Edits on zopewiki.org have been light; small ongoing improvements from a small number of people. Someone has started a http://zopewiki.org/PageTemplateStyleGuide . Server news The zwiki.org/zopewiki.org server basically ran all month without exceeding the 200M memory quota or restarting and performance has been reasonable. Those wikis currently have 2164 and 464 pages respectively. About the Zwiki project Zwiki was started in 1999 by Simon Michael and now receives improvements from many contributors. It is released under the GNU GPL. A new version is released on the first of the month. Links http://zwiki.org - Zwiki home, with all download, documentation discussion links http://zwiki.org/ZwikiFunding - how to donate or sponsor a feature Release notes Zwiki 0.40.0 2005/04/01 Summary Bugfixes, new japanese translation, chinese translation updates, new search option. Upgrade notes This fixes a high-profile known issue in 0.39, #1062. If you didn't already find the issue page and workaround, upgrade to this version to fix it. Changes Browsing * add a "thorough" non-catalog search to search form, commented out (for spam hunting) Editing * fix the keys attribute error when creating pages in plone (#1062) * deleting a top-level page redirects to the front page again; new upUrl method (#917, Martijn Pieters, SM) Issue tracking * no bogus property change. Some very aggressive search engines (spiders) seem to be following form action="" references in pages as well as the usual href links. As a result probes by such greedy theives can cause unexpected changes to wiki web pages. One such example recently has been the triggering of the Change button on the Issue pages. The script changeIssueProperties should be more careful not to record any change if the Change action is triggered with no actually changes. (Bill Page) General - i18n * new japanese translation (Masaya Kato, Manabu Terada, Yoshiki Shibukawa, Takayuki Shimizukawa, Junya Ogino, Takanori Suzuki) * chinese translation updates (T.C. Chou) * updated all po files from latest pot General - skins * the site_logo folder property didn't work in plone ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Does anyone care whether we deprecate ZClasses?
FYI, there's a kind of overview of possible ZClass alternatives at http://zopewiki.org/HowToAddCustomContentTypes . ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: ZWiki - MoinMoin markup
Hi Malthe, I don't think moin markup allows html tags, so br is out. Also, consider whether this work will really pay off. Unless it gets incorporated into the upstream MoinMoin code, it might or might not make sense to support a non-standard moin markup feature in the shipping Zwiki. But I don't want to discourage you, perhaps you just want this for local use. It's not clear to me either, but I think: - the class you need to change is Parser - start by looking at formatting_rules. The format() method may also be relevant. - try to find some other formatting rule that's similar, and copy/tweak it. Perhaps li ? - the regexps named there are somehow handled by the similarly-named repl methods, like _li_repl() - you might find more help with this code on the moin channel/list/wiki. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Does anyone care whether we deprecate ZClasses?
Sascha Welter wrote: If the new stuff is so great and easy to use, it should also be easy to put some documentation of it in Hear, hear. +1 insightful. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: developer docs
Since it wasn't mentioned: you may want to check out http://zopewiki.org/ZopeDevelopment and http://zopewiki.org/DiskBasedProduct . Pretty much all the known relevant links should be there, and if you know others, please add them. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: ZWiki and Kupu
Daniel Dekany wrote: Why, does ZWiki work with Epoz? For me Epoz ruin the comments added to the page ... (And of course Epoz/Kupu works only with HTML ZWiki pages, not with structured text. Hi Daniel.. correct on both counts. We could use some patches here. http://zwiki.org/1085CommentsArentFormattedProperlyInHtmlPages There's no wysiwyg editor for structured text but the blogger and wikipedia wysiwyg editors might be good starting points. http://zwiki.org/IssueTracker?category:list=user-editing-htmlsort_on=status_index#issues ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: i am completely new to zope
It would be interesting to really mine the list archives for the wealth of answers in there, and present them in an organized fashion. At least the last year's archive, say. But, I think it would take an army of slaves^H^H^H^H^H^Hvolunteers akin to the builders of the pyramids, java developers, etc. Am I wrong ? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: i am completely new to zope
Paul Winkler wrote: I dunno... if you don't mind it happening in a disorganized, haphazard fashion, zopewiki.org is the perfect place for this IMO. You'd hear no argument from me.. I think it would need to be a little bit organized though.. without some rough standard for presentation, some visible measure of progress, volunteer instructions etc. it seems an overwhelming task. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zwiki 0.41 released, news for april
Seems I'm never going to finish this.. just *post* it! *What is it ?* Zwiki is a Zope product for building wikis - a special kind of website that's easy for anyone to edit. Zwiki was started in 1999 by Simon Michael and now receives improvements from many contributors. It is released under the GNU GPL. A new version is released on the first of the month. See http://zwiki.org for more. *0.41 release summary* Some anti-spam features, skin fixes and translation updates. Full release notes are below. *Zwiki news this month* Development activity, contributors Translation updates from T.C. Chou (chinese) and Gaspar Quiles (spanish), and a number of fixes from Jens Nachtigall. Thank you! Bug reporting closing activity bug day on the first friday of the month Documentation activity reorganized front page UsersGuide and AdministratorsGuide are fairly complete and accurate old docs have been demoted to *Notes and linked less prominently Discussion New zwiki-edits list and mail setup new anti-spam features installed (no external links by unidentified users, delayed indexing); no spam since As a reminder, experimental rss links are available, linked on the FrontPage. They are .../pages_rss - new pages in this wiki .../changes_rss - recent edits in this wiki *Links* http://zwiki.org - Zwiki home, with all download, documentation discussion links http://zwiki.org/ZwikiFunding - how to donate or sponsor a feature *Release notes* Summary Some anti-spam features, skin fixes and translation updates. Upgrade notes Translations may be somewhat in flux this release. Configuring * restrict external links: if a max_anonymous_links int property is defined, edits from unidentified users (with no username) containing more than that number of http:// links will be refused and logged * delayed indexing: pages now include the NOINDEX meta tag for 24 hours after an edit, to reduce the chance of spam links being indexed by search engines. Browsing * show page source links when using thorough search, to help with spam cleanup Mail * make subscribe form help reflect the comments/edits mailout policy (Jens Nachtigall) * AnonymousUserSubscriptionInPlone (Jens Nachtigall) fixes #878 anonymous subscription in cmf/plone subscribes Anonymous User * br_for_subscribed_pages_list_on_subscribeform (Jens Nachtigall) If one is subscribed to several pages, theses pages are on the same line, which looks confusing. Now it is done as with the page_subscribers list on the very same subscribeform, ie an is inserted between each page name. General - i18n * regenerate pot and po files, and this time with up-to-date Default comments (#1093, SM, Jens Nachtigall) * mark_PREVIEW_as_translatable (Jens Nachtigall) * chinese translation updates (T.C. Chou) * spanish translation updates (Gaspar Quiles) General - skins * subscribeform_remove-unneccessary-span-tags (Jens Nachtigall) * new api method: lastEditIntervalInHours ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zopewiki news for april
*About the Zopewiki project* zopewiki.org aims to be a simple, comprehensive, user-maintained repository for Zope documentation, notes and links - a hitch-hiker's guide to Zope. See http://zopewiki.org for more. *News* In april, the wiki seemed to come alive due to the number of different people editing (10, as a rough guess). There has been a fair amount of cleanup activity in recent weeks. Some anti-spam measures were installed and there have been no spam incidents recently. This impacts users, however: you will not be allowed to add external links until you have configured a username at http://zopewiki.org/ZopeWiki/useroptions . At the moment this is not spelled out explicitly. The mirrored ZopeBook content has been removed in favour of links to the master copy at plope.com. There is a page linking to each chapter, which might serve for annotation/discussion of the chapters as long as backtalk comments are disabled. For more, see http://zopewiki.org/ZopeWikiNews http://zopewiki.org/ZopeWikiDiscussion http://zopewiki.org/WikiStats ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: DTML in Zope 2 vs Zope 3
It's not so hard. :) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: New External Editor release 0.9
Chris - I and my windows users thank you! Some little notes are gathered at http://zopewiki.org/ExternalEditor . The biggest gotcha for EE on windows seems to be that the ZopeExternalEdit.ini in the \program files directory has no effect, it needs to be moved to the user's profile. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: From Zope 2.5.1 to Zope 2.7.6
Tim, subtopics appearing from nowhere could be due to a Zwiki upgrade. If you are indeed looking at a wiki page, the Zwiki release notes and admin guide will explain. Add a false boolean 'show_subtopics' property to the folder to make them go away. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: ZSyncer and Zope-2.8.0
In my, similar, situation it is:: Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 113, in publish Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object Module Products.ZSyncer.ZSyncer, line 1199, in call_ Unauthorized: You are not allowed to access 'manage_listObjects' in this context If I try Sascha's username:password@ workaround, I get:: ... File /zope1/Products/ZSyncer/ZSyncer.py, line 1050, in _getRemoteList return serverconn.manage_listObjects(path) File /zope1/Products/ZSyncer/ConnectionMgr.py, line 164, in __call__ raise IOError, msg IOError: http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/zsyncer/call_: 400 - Bad Request Bad Request (Invalid Hostname) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: zope.org site and limited search results
Then you may try to post a bug in the collector of the zope.org site: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/ZopeOrg It's there.. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: [ANN] iungo released to the wild...
Oh no! Your logo-fu is the greatest. I really like what I've seen of this, it seems an elegant zopish solution. Great food for thought. Thanks! -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Using Structured Text and HTML-quote together for RSS 2.0
Chris, you are hurting my ears, please stop. :) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Zwiki conflicts with my product
Forwarded to http://zwiki.org/1158 , thanks for the report. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] [1158] Re: Zwiki conflicts with my product
Hi Nicholas, I think use of the encoding argument just failed two lines above that one, and so Dieter's suggestion may not work. In your event log at blather severity, or on the console if you start with zopectl fg -Xdebug-mode=on, you should see: ZWiki... Warning: unicode() LookupError for encoding ___, WikiNames will not use the system locale What is the encoding it reports there ? Is it trying a strange one due to your product setting the locale ? (usually not recommended, incidentally..) It shouldn't crash of course. As a workaround you could try: lang, encoding = None, None at line 79. Feel free to take this to http://zwiki.org/1158 if you like. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: [1158] Re: Zwiki conflicts with my product
you should see: ZWiki... Warning: unicode() LookupError for encoding ___, WikiNames will not use the system locale Oops, I didn't get it quite right. You won't see that, but hopefully you can see how to tweak the code to find out the encoding it's attempting to use. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] runzope vs zopectl fg ?
Question: is runzope now equivalent to zopectl fg (turning on debug mode for you etc.) and if so could we drop it ? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: ZWiki RecentChanges as RSS feed
Hi Peter, I've got a Zwiki instance that works just fine. If I visit it at http://localhost:8080/wiki/RecentChanges?action=rss_rc I get a nice feed of all the recent changes. I'm not familiar with ?action=rss_rc at all, it sounds like a local customization. But I don't want to reach it by URL, I want to reach it programmatically. How do I do that?? return self.wiki.RecentChanges() gives an AttributeError. If you want to know why, post the traceback and I'll say more. Generally, to get a zwiki page to render itself programmatically, give it a REQUEST. Eg self.wiki.RecentChanges(REQUEST=REQUEST). In certain contexts you might still have skin trouble, in which case try self.wiki.RecentChanges(REQUEST=REQUEST,bare=1) to render without the skin. Current Zwiki has changes_rss and pages_rss methods built in, eg wiki.AnyPage.pages_rss(). Cheers -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: ZWiki RecentChanges as RSS feed
Peter Bengtsson wrote: The big problem with this is that it seems to be in reverse order with the first wiki page first. I'd like it the other way around. Have a look at the changes_rss method in RSS.py (in 0.46). It calls pages(), which is essentially a catalog query restricted to this folder. You could move this method back to a pythonscript and tweak that query, or do it in dtml. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zwiki contributor policy update
Hi all! I'm slightly burned out and bored with certain areas of Zope 2 Zwiki development. I think the product will provide some value for a while yet, and it's not too late to shake things up and make a bigger splash. If we don't do this during the period of Zwiki Zope 2's relevance, our good work will bring less benefit than it might have. So I'm putting out a call for help. I'd really like to see more people take on development of Zwiki. What are the roadblocks - of my making, and otherwise - to a more active Zwiki developer community ? For one thing I needed to nail down some copyright/license issues more explicitly, to make contributing and accepting contributions more of a no-brainer. Here's my latest thinking: LICENSE Much Zope code uses the ZPL. We want to maximize code sharing and participation with the whole Zope community. Much of the rest of the FOSS world uses the GPL, and the same goes for them. Dual GPL/ZPL licensing may seem a good option, but I'm convinced it's not worth the added complexity, legal uncertainty and fragmentation; either straight GPL or straight ZPL is preferable. GPL is the mainstream license for the future IMHO, I think it's still the best option, and I have no plan to leave it. Also I think we should adopt GPLv3? when it's ready. That said, there's now clear policy allowing non-GPL code to be added to Zwiki if necessary (below). Also I remain open to license exemption requests from Zope developers. COPYRIGHT I no longer think the single copyright holder policy is best for this project, and I'm going to drop it. I am changing the main repo's policy to multiple copyright holders ( allowing multiple licenses), with the simple condition that the overall project manager is assigned the right to relicense to newer license versions. The powerful darcs revision control system (together with new CONTRIBUTORS list) should help us to keep track of copyright licensing status and even remove problematic commits later if needed. CONTRIBUTOR'S AGREEMENT To ensure that everyone gets proper credit for their work; a clear audit trail and legal status for the project; and that the project can remain license-compatible with other free open-source software in future, I have added a very simple contributor agreement/contributor list: http://zwiki.org/repos/ZWiki/CONTRIBUTORS.txt . All Zwiki contributors should read and consider signing this file, to help us meet these goals. You can follow this easy procedure to add your name to the glorious list: (install darcs if needed, see http://darcs.net/DarcsWiki/CategoryBinaries) darcs get --partial http://zwiki.org/repos/ZWiki cd ZWiki echo "- Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]" CONTRIBUTORS.txt darcs record -a -m"signed it" CONTRIBUTORS.txt (enter your name email address again) darcs send This will become the authoritative list of code committers (at least), and I'll be working to make sure all of you are listed properly. Many have donated their time and creativity over the years - this list will make that clearer. All comments, help and other ideas welcome. And I hope to see some of you online or off. Happy holidays, and thanks -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Problem with Zwiki mail-out
Thanks Tracy, I'll include that in the next release. If you find more problems consider reporting at http://zwiki.org/IssueTracker as well so we don't miss it. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] how to add zopewiki product pages
Following on from a zope-dev thread: On 3/15/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Michael wrote: You forgot to make a page under http://zopewiki.org/Products . Doh! :) Only half joking. If I'm looking for a dimly-remembered product from six months ago, this is where I find what I need to know fastest. Is there any chance I could persuade you to add some info on them all? (or at least some stub pages you can point me at to edit?) There are a lot, and more than that I don't think it's a great model to have me typing in every product page myself. On the other hand.. it wouldn't take *that* long.. If you and I another volunteer or three spent 10 minutes a day on #zope, it wouldn't take long at all. Here's three ways to add a page: - create by url: go to http://zopewiki.org/TheProduct . If it isn't found, click the create button. Enter some notes. Even a single hyperlink or a one-line description is a good start. - create in the right place: go to http://zopewiki.org/products . Scroll down, look for a suitable sub-category and go there. Enter TheProduct in the page management form at the bottom of the page and click the create button. - create by mail-in: subscribe (http://zopewiki.org/ZopeWiki/subscribeform) and then forward email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Here are some niceties, which you can follow if you like: - include the word ZopeProduct, to unambiguously mark this page as a distinct zope product. This is a little bit handy for things like http://zopewiki.org/WikiStats#products . - the first paragraph is used as the page summary, so make it a nice snappy overview. - after that, add the home page link and any others you want. Most pages use STX's -- definition lists. - subscribe to the wiki or watch the front page to hear about and augment new product pages ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: zwiki connection error
Hi Josh. Does a zope restart fix it ? Does anything appear in event.log/error_log ? Do you see the expected url in Z2.log (ruling out an apache rewrite problem) ? Have you been using the product refresh feature ? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: zope 3 invisibility
For the record, I found this thread illuminating and entirely on-topic for this list. Thanks Carlos! ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: zwiki users - own color text?
That sounds not so easy. Do you mean just comments, or all edits ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: zwiki users - own color text?
bigger boat wrote: we're wanting to use a wiki to discuss things in our organisation, and want it to be clear who wrote what... Sorry Roy.. no per editor colours right now. I'm not even sure how you'd go about adding it. Are there existing wiki engines which do othis well ? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: combining all zope2 FAQs into one big one at wiki.zope., org/zope2
+1 for most of them, thanks for doing this. How about just /FAQ, then wiki.zope.org/zope2/faq works, it's consistent with zope3 etc. FAQs can become a placeholder pointing there. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] FAQ writing tips (Re: combining all zope2 FAQs into one big one at wiki.zope., org/zope2)
PS, here's a word of warning to FAQ writers from my own experience, a trap to avoid: You start writing answers for questions - it's so easy and tempting - later you find better answers out on the web, even elsewhere in the same wiki, but now you have a big, verbose body of duplicated docs that's too good to throw away but not quite valuable enough to attract a lot of maintenance. Result: stagnation. How to avoid this ? Maybe keeping these goals in mind will help: - research, link, gather, consolidate docs first; write new ones as last resort - keep answers in the faq short and to the point, link to best detailed docs elsewhere - avoid unnecessary duplication. Use the contents link to see what's in the zope2 and other zope wikis. Refactor the wiki content aggressively when appropriate. Also, long wiki pages are less fun to edit than short ones, use an external editor for FAQ work to avoid this pain. Emacs users, try rst-mode.el. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zwiki bug day tomorrow
Friday may 4th is Zwiki Bugfix Day! Drop by the #zwiki IRC channel any time on friday to help, hack, heckle, and join in the fun. http://zwiki.org/BugDay has more info. Hope to see you there! -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Static Zope 3 APIDOC available!
Great work!! Here are some things I think would make it even better: - a last updated timestamp - a zope version string - automatic updating, eg nightly - apidoc.z.o - api.z.o Thanks a lot. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Static Zope 3 APIDOC available!
PS and, a Zope 2 version! I assume that's hard though. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Happy Valentine's Day from Zwiki HQ
Hello Zopistas.. a happy Valentine's day to all! Continuing with my spring cleaning theme over at http://zwiki.org/GeneralDiscussion , here are some musings. Like many of you, I'm always wondering where is the most useful place to spend my community hacking time. Sometimes Zwiki seems like the very best place; other times it doesn't. Development pretty much came to a full stop at times last year. So I'm kicking around some ideas. I'm pondering what slows down my Zwiki hacking. First, let me get one thing off my chest: for me, Python is a `blub http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blub`_! There, I said it. Moving on.. then, there are the usual questions of project and platform maturity, legacy cruft, how many people actually use this thing, what is the benefit, what's the future potential, etc. Don't get me wrong, I expect Python and Zope 2 to keep growing and succeeding for a very long time. And so I guess Zwiki will continue to be used and perhaps grow in user base. At the current rate of development, though, we will not stay competitive with other software or even catch up with our own bug reports. Looking at current code, I am reminded that Zwiki 0.x is mature, built on early zope 2 architecture, and that cleanup continues to be expensive (compared to starting something fresh). Of course, many hands make light work. Imagine ten developers working on Zwiki at once - cleanup expense would no longer be noticeable, we could pretty much do whatever we want. That's not our current reality. Is it possible to find ten Zwiki developers now or in future ? I'm sure I could increase our numbers (from two active) by sustained effort, but how far and how smart a strategy that is I don't know. Another idea which inspired this post is to branch, mothballing 0.x as-is and moving development focus to a Zwiki 2.x where we would do aggressive disruptive cleanup. Say we did that. What would you throw out of Zwiki 0.x ? What would you keep ? This is to air these thoughts, solicit your ideas, and also a kind of ping to gauge support for the project circa 2008, I guess. Warm regards - Simon -- forwarded from http://zwiki.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Joyful Systems http://joyful.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] A Zwiki roadmap
All - thanks for the interesting feedback on zwiki.org, zope/plone-user lists and #zwiki channel. Based on this I see the following as a good roadmap. - Plone needs native wiki-ish solutions that fit the Plone model. It's time to stop chasing Plone, remove the CMF/Plone support (simplifing code and skins), and focus on plain Zope 2 as our platform. - Ideally there would be one last release to fix cosmetic issues with current Plone 3 support. Anyone who wanted Zwiki in Plone would use this version. This, call it Zwiki Classic, would enter mothball/deep maintenance mode. (We might call it 1.0. Don't freak out. I'm just saying.) - New development would focus on a 2.x branch where we would drop backwards compatibility, do very aggressive cleanup and generally make our life easier. Other priorities would be all-unicode, ease of hosting, pluggability and modularisation, moving to zope3 technologies, and extracting reusable python/zope3 libs. This would be a refactor not a ground-up rewrite - we should be able to use it pretty much right away. - Z3wiki (the all-zope3, ZPL zwiki codebase) might be able to use and help extract libs from above. I don't expect to work on z3wiki directly myself because Zope 2 is our mainstream appserver and because I prefer to spend most of my time in GPL-land. So there is one possible path into the future, though I don't yet know how far down it we'll go. zwiki.org has a hundred subscribers, but I'm not hearing strong support/interest/need. And there are other projects and other implementation strategies to explore. One basic issue is that with wikis proliferating and traffic intensifying, 100%-dynamic, memory-intensive wikis are not always economic. Eg for slashdottings and for busy developers, an RCS-based solution like ikiwiki is attractive. And so on. Just pondering; we shall see. As always, further thoughts welcome. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] A Zwiki roadmap
All - thanks for the interesting feedback on zwiki.org, zope/plone-user lists and #zwiki channel. Based on this I see the following as a good roadmap. - Plone needs native wiki-ish solutions that fit the Plone model. It's time to stop chasing Plone, remove the CMF/Plone support (simplifing code and skins), and focus on plain Zope 2 as our platform. - Ideally there would be one last release to fix cosmetic issues with current Plone 3 support. Anyone who wanted Zwiki in Plone would use this version. This, call it Zwiki Classic, would enter mothball/deep maintenance mode. (We might call it 1.0. Don't freak out. I'm just saying.) - New development would focus on a 2.x branch where we would drop backwards compatibility, do very aggressive cleanup and generally make our life easier. Other priorities would be all-unicode, ease of hosting, pluggability and modularisation, moving to zope3 technologies, and extracting reusable python/zope3 libs. This would be a refactor not a ground-up rewrite - we should be able to use it pretty much right away. - Z3wiki (the all-zope3, ZPL zwiki codebase) might be able to use and help extract libs from above. I don't expect to work on z3wiki directly myself because Zope 2 is our mainstream appserver and because I prefer to spend most of my time in GPL-land. So there is one possible path into the future, though I don't yet know how far down it we'll go. zwiki.org has a hundred subscribers, but I'm not hearing strong support/interest/need. And there are other projects and other implementation strategies to explore. One basic issue is that with wikis proliferating and traffic intensifying, 100%-dynamic, memory-intensive wikis are not always economic. Eg for slashdottings and for busy developers, an RCS-based solution like ikiwiki is attractive. And so on. Just pondering; we shall see. As always, further thoughts welcome. -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: running in debug mode
ZEO clients connecting to one and the same ZEO database server then that's pretty dangerous. It is ? Yikes. I believe you, as I remember this working for a while and then giving zodb errors requiring a restart. I wonder why ? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: anyone heard of Zamasing?
Tim Nash wrote: up-to-date documentation than anything else. Products are the way to go. It is very much like wriitng 'Scripts Python'. I am going to put a simple 'boring' product on the zope.org site (if they let me) which Hi Tim.. put it also on http://wiki.zope.org/zope2 if you wish. That is an easy place to grow and rework documentation. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: anyone heard of Zamasing?
Tim Nash wrote: I created a zexp that demonstrates the use of extjs and zope but I don't know where to put it for anyone that might be interested. Can the wiki.zope.org/zope2 site accept .zexp uploads? Hi Tim - yes it can, see the edit form. However there is a size limit, it's either 1Mb or 1Gb. :) See if it works for you. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: anyone heard of Zamasing?
Tim Nash wrote: find a way to upload the zexp to the wiki but I don't see how to do You're absolutely right, I forgot we restricted this to authenticated users when junk uploads became a problem. I did the upload and changed the link. Contact me for a wiki.zope.org login so you can do more uploads, or you may prefer to just link to your site. Thanks for sharing this example! ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] zope 2 wiki updated
Good day all.. http://wiki.zope.org/zope2 has just received a pretty major cleanup (I can tell by my inbox, this was about a 400-er.) Your critique, help and improvements are welcome. Best - Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] calling satisfied Zwiki users
Forwarding this to the Zwiki and ex-Zwiki diaspora. Thanks all! -Simon On Jan 28, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Simon Michael wrote: Marketing.. sure, why not. New Zwiki users are still showing up and a little more marketing wouldn't hurt. I think some of us enjoy using Zwiki and I've thought about collecting some testimonials/quotes. I know when I see a project that has realistic testimonials from happy users, that really helps motivate me to try it out. I don't have much sense of how large/active/plugged in to this page the Zwiki-using community is, but if you are reading this, are happy with the software and can write a short testimonial, please send it. Don't wait, just hit reply now! :) Testimonials are like a micro-review, typically a short quote. (Longer reviews are of course welcome too!) They should come from your real experience with Zwiki, and be honest (negative reviews are also useful.) Include the name you'd like to appear with the quote; the strongest testimonials include a real full name and organization. You might mention whether you are using Zwiki with or without Plone. If I can collect enough positive ones, I'll start rotating them on the zwiki.org home page. -- forwarded from http://zwiki.org/generaldiscussion#msg5b888b82-b2dc-4c76-8007-18d87c7ba...@joyful.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] string index out of range
Now reported as https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/487998 . ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zwiki with plone.
Fabien Combernous wrote: We are using plone 2.9 with zwiki 0.60. We used a Data.fs from old zope. Since we upgraded our zope/plone/zwiki we are unable to use/add zwiki in our new zope/plone. Hi Fabien. Did you mean Zope 2.9 ? Anyway, take a look at http://wiki.zope.org/zope2/VersionsMatrix - this may help you figure out what version you need. If not, come to http://zwiki.org/FrontPage#discussion and we can figure it out. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] www.zope.org relaunched
Ding dong! The witch is dead! Great work Andreas and team. The new site does a good job of presenting the big picture, tying together the complex Zope web presence, and moving old zope.org into graceful retirement at long last. With this in place, further improvements to the web presence are much easier, should anyone wish to make them. And it makes existing and future Zope-technology deployments look more viable. Thanks, -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Alternatives to ZWIKI?
Hi Jesús, Zwiki author here. You're not far wrong. Zwiki development stalled a couple of years ago as I moved away from python and Zope. http://zwiki.org is in read-only mode, http://wiki.zope.org is offline, and I'm not aware of many live public zwiki instances. I expect there are some internal ones, like yours. The latest/last release of Zwiki should still work fine on any Zope 2.x version. What versions do you have ? What problems/needs do you have ? -Simon On 11/13/13 4:06 PM, Jesus Cea wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ZWIKI is quite old and looks like dead. Am I misunderstanding the situation?. Anybody has any suggestion to replace my really OLD zwiki deployment?. I looking forward your opinion. Thanks a lot. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zopache = ZTK + Grok + ZMI
On 7/30/14 6:07 AM, Christopher Lozinski wrote: On 7/30/14, 2:11 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: Maybe, but Unix file system development is at least 36 years old. Heheh, touché. Some reasons many Zope developers may have moved on, with a tear in their eye: - fashion - community - maintaining large projects written in a dynamic language gets very costly (think of the number of runtime errors you've run into while working with zope projects). Today's newer better statically typed languages help quite a lot. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope2 - pro/contra
On 3/16/15 6:37 PM, Jesus Cea wrote: ZWIKI... God... Is there any possibility of upgrading it to support current Zope2?. I have currently two zope instances: a current zope and an aging Zope 2.10 just to host ZWIKI :(. Hi Jesus, as far as I know it works out of the box with Zope 2.13, at least 2.13.5. What and where is current Zope2 ? Feel free to open an issue (or pull request). The old issue tracker was read-only so I've activated a new one at github (see https://github.com/simonmichael/ZWiki/issues/2). Best -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope2 - pro/contra
Nice discussion! I don't know about docs.zope.org, but I'll just add a status update on the zope wikis, which held quite a lot of historical and reference information. They used to be hosted by Zope Corp or maybe Zope Foundation, they went dark a few years back and no-one complained, more recently Fred Drake sent me a snapshot of their content, I forgot about it for a while, now I should probably revive and host them in read-only mode, as soon as I find a tuit. If anyone else would like to work on it sooner, just let me know. Best -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope2 - pro/contra
I've sent you a download link. I’m somewhat familiar with it, as I managed at least the zope2 wiki (and wrote Zwiki), so please call on me for help as you need, on the mail list or directly. I’m sm in the #zope IRC channel. Thanks for working on it. -Simon On 3/7/15 7:17 AM, Simon Michael wrote: Hi Bernard, great! You'll hear more from me in the next couple of days. -Simon On 3/7/15 2:49 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: Hi Simon I'd like to work on hosting the wiki information. Regards Bernard On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Simon Michael si...@joyful.com wrote: Nice discussion! I don't know about docs.zope.org, but I'll just add a status update on the zope wikis, which held quite a lot of historical and reference information. They used to be hosted by Zope Corp or maybe Zope Foundation, they went dark a few years back and no-one complained, more recently Fred Drake sent me a snapshot of their content, I forgot about it for a while, now I should probably revive and host them in read-only mode, as soon as I find a tuit. If anyone else would like to work on it sooner, just let me know. Best -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope2 - pro/contra
Hi Bernard, great! You'll hear more from me in the next couple of days. -Simon On 3/7/15 2:49 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: Hi Simon I'd like to work on hosting the wiki information. Regards Bernard On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Simon Michael si...@joyful.com wrote: Nice discussion! I don't know about docs.zope.org, but I'll just add a status update on the zope wikis, which held quite a lot of historical and reference information. They used to be hosted by Zope Corp or maybe Zope Foundation, they went dark a few years back and no-one complained, more recently Fred Drake sent me a snapshot of their content, I forgot about it for a while, now I should probably revive and host them in read-only mode, as soon as I find a tuit. If anyone else would like to work on it sooner, just let me know. Best -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Plans for Zope 2 after Python 2.7 deadline
On 2/12/19 3:27 PM, Jesus Cea wrote: With less than a year away until Python 2.7 becomes "deadware", I wonder about the plan. I am using Zope 2.13 under Python 2.7. Huge sites with ZODB sizes in the multi gigabyte range. A handful of custom classes I could rewrite in Python 3 if needed. Is there any best practices I should be aware/follow to survive after Python 2.7 demise?. How long will be Zope2 2.13 be alive after that?. What about migration plans to Zope 4? Of course, I know that Python 2.7 interpreter will not suddenly die 1st January 2020. Just wondering if there is a ZOPE roadmap migration or if it will be a procedure each of us will need to overcome alone. Thanks for like 22 years of great service, so far :). That is very appreciated, whatever happens. Hear hear! Zope2 still running merrily at http://zwiki.org , for what it's worth. (Zope 2.13.5, python 2.6.6) Best, -Simon ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-Annce] zopewiki news for april
*About the Zopewiki project* zopewiki.org aims to be a simple, comprehensive, user-maintained repository for Zope documentation, notes and links - a hitch-hiker's guide to Zope. See http://zopewiki.org for more. *News* In april, the wiki seemed to come alive due to the number of different people editing (10, as a rough guess). There has been a fair amount of cleanup activity in recent weeks. Some anti-spam measures were installed and there have been no spam incidents recently. This impacts users, however: you will not be allowed to add external links until you have configured a username at http://zopewiki.org/ZopeWiki/useroptions . At the moment this is not spelled out explicitly. The mirrored ZopeBook content has been removed in favour of links to the master copy at plope.com. There is a page linking to each chapter, which might serve for annotation/discussion of the chapters as long as backtalk comments are disabled. For more, see http://zopewiki.org/ZopeWikiNews http://zopewiki.org/ZopeWikiDiscussion http://zopewiki.org/WikiStats ___ Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions (Related lists - Users: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope Developers: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-Annce] Zwiki 0.43 released
A quickie: Changes: Chinese and Spanish translation updates (thank you T.C. Chou and Gaspar Quiles) and a fix for setupDtmlMethods in plone sites. A couple of fixes from Stefan Rank are still pending. I'm in Ireland until the end of july, and on dialup, so you won't see me on #zwiki as much. But I may get in some hacking soon. Hope you're having fun, -Simon ___ Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions (Related lists - Users: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope Developers: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-Annce] Zwiki 0.45 released
Zwiki is a free wiki engine for Zope, for creating both standard Zope and CMF/Plone wikis. You can find out all about it at http://zwiki.org . This month we have some http://joyfulsystems.blogspot.com/2005/09/bug-squashing.html and the return of CMF metadata. Thanks to alecm, jbb, Tim Olsen and Mark Ferrell in particular. Summary Robustness fixes, Plone 2.1 compatibility fixes, simplifications, CMF metadata support. Upgrade notes You might want to delete the "outline" object using the ZMI, allowing Zwiki to create a more ZMI-compliant one. Note this will lose any manual re-ordering of subtopics you may have done. The default colour for "serious" issues is lighter. This will take effect for each issue page as it is edited. To make all pages show the correct colour right away, visit SomePage/upgradeAll in your browser. Changes Installing make the outline cache replaceable to avoid errors during migration of plone 2.1rc3 sites (#1143, SM, alecm) make catalog lookup more robust when there is another object named Catalog (#1132, SM, Tim Olsen) catch errors when importing page types and plugins at startup (#809, #1148) make fit import error at startup less verbose (#1054) Configuring make the outline cache object fully ZMI-manageable (#1144) drop support for alternate catalog names via SITE_CATALOG property drop support for overriding the contents view with a SiteMap page don't update page creation times when moving/renaming/importing in the ZMI Browsing Editing fix page creation/editing breakage in plone 2.1 due to explicit acquisition (#1137, SM, alecm) enable CMF/Plone document metadata support (jbb) Page hierarchy Mail Issue tracking make the serious issue default colour lighter allow issues without numbers (with at least a "status" property) General - i18n remove unnecessary -en po files add missing headers for german po drop unnecessary -PT for pt po files fix space-separated i18n attributes to avoid deprecation warnings on startup General - skins make hasSkinTemplate check filesystem templates, such as the alternate subtopics template (#1113, Mark Ferrell, SM) drop the special style for ratings, for now General allow create to work without a request, for debugging merge moin_support.py with moin.py for easier handling don't bother noting pre-renders in the transaction log (#948) drop unused getSkinTemplateWithDefault method Best, -Simon ___ Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions (Related lists - Users: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope Developers: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-Annce] Zwiki 0.52 released
No time for foolery! Alas. Zwiki 0.52 has been released at http:// zwiki.org . Zwiki is a free, powerful, easy to use and manage wiki engine for Zope 2; it works with standard Zope, CMF or Plone sites. Here is the news. Summary Restructured Text fixed now the default markup, standard skin templates refactored and used for plone, zwiki/plone skin switching always available, wiki navigation links and issuebrowser (re-)enabled, better styles, zope 2.7 support fixed, slow freeform link rendering fixed, translation updates including a new Thai translation, much code cleanup. Upgrade notes A lot of skins code has changed. Your old wikis should keep working as before except: - if you have a customized ``recentchanges`` or ``searchwiki`` template you'll need to delete it or replace with the latest and re-customize - full/simple/minimal links in old custom skin templates will no longer work. - http://zwiki.org/HowToUseTheStandardSkinInPlone is now built in, if you made a Zwiki CMF skin you can delete it. Changes Installing * fix startup failure with Zope 2.7 (#1222, Frank Laurijssens) * fix a mysterious new bug with cmf/plone registration (#1237) Configuring * leave site links enabled by default again (home, changes, issues...) * fix container context, make page management form create button respect folder permission (#1220) Browsing * switching between plone and standard zwiki skins in CMF/plone sites is now always available, and no longer changes the url. Just use the - and + access keys (in firefox: alt minus, alt plus). * fix the two-year-old freeform links speed regression (#818, Warren Holt, Simon Michael) * fix double-linking of bare urls in rst pages * add standard RST styles and latest zwiki.org tweaks to stylesheet - black headings subtopic links, limited text width, etc. * tweak rst comment headings - remove blank line after heading, don't italicise username * fix too-small headings on RST pages, and don't show so many RST warnings (#1224) * work better with plone livesearch * UserOptions.dtml was missing a (Andrew Milton) * remove unneeded styling of external editor icon * remove unnecessary inconsistent-looking access key on logo * show a heading on all views except editform Editing * make restructured text the default page type, change page type order in editform. (AdoptRestructuredText) As of today, RST is the default page type. Hurrah! And three cheers for trusty old STX, which served us well. It is still the page type of choice when you want to do stuff with embedded DTML or HTML. * fix error displayed on first comment to an RST page (#1233) * show HTML (WYSIWYG) in the editform when Epoz is available * remove editform's hard-coded gray background Page hierarchy * make backlinks form smarter * make singletons have same style as other links in contents Mail Issue tracking * don't bother showing (property change) in issue mailouts * provide a link to issuebrowser by default * make IssueBrowser show categories more usefully out of the box Translations * Thai translation started (Bunyawat Singchai) * update po files from rosetta and code, simplify file names General * namegeddon. File and class renames and re-ordering for clarity and better organization eg in wing ide * major refactoring of skin templates using macros, the same templates are now used for standard plone skins (ViewGeddon) * document skin code in Views.py * use PageTemplateFile so view templates will reload in debug mode (macros still don't) * move all images to skins dir, use the standard zwiki page icon in plone * standard_error_message cleanupsUrls: http://zwiki.orghttp://joyful.com http://joyfulsystems.blogspot.com http://zwiki.org/FreeHostingHappy Springcleaning!-Simon ___ Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions (Related lists - Users: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope Developers: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-Annce] Zwiki 0.54 released
Zwiki 0.54 has been released. This one comes you from the garden, in lovely county Wicklow. Thanks for all bug reports and input. An announcement from Joyful Systems: my current consulting gig is winding down; it's time for me to do something new, creative, financially rewarding. This could mean a greater focus on Zwiki. If you need Zwiki/Zope/Squeak/Unix consulting, or have any other thoughts on this, let me know! Best, -Simon Summary Miscellaneous view-related and general enhancements. Upgrade notes CMF/Plone users: the zwiki_standard and zwiki_plone skin layers have been replaced by a single zwiki layer. Re-install Zwiki in your CMF/Plone sites, using Plone's add/remove products or CMF's quickinstaller, to register the new skin layer. Also remove the zwiki_standard and zwiki_plone skin layers from your skins in portal_skins - Properties. Changes Installing * cleaned up ZMI Add ZWiki and Add ZWiki Page forms * remove _getViewFor import that broke with CMF 2.0 * fix upgradeAll's batch option Browsing * /myvotes view shows your votes in this wiki * highlight your current vote for this page, if any Editing * support a max_identified_links property also, for cookie-identified users (for now) * edit history enhancements, a more useful diff browser and more powerful revert methods. Renames can now be reverted, reverting is more reliable, and appropriate mail notifications are sent. General * replace zwiki_standard and zwiki_plone with just skins/zwiki * Views code cleanup * simplify definition of view macros and make them refresh immediately in debug mode * more code docs * don't bother identifying the catalog in event log Urls: - http://zwiki.org - start here - http://zwiki.org/FreeHosting - free experimental zwiki hosting - http://joyful.com - zwiki demos and other zwikis - http://joyfulsystems.blogspot.com - blog ___ Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions (Related lists - Users: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope Developers: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-Annce] Zwiki 0.57 released
Good day all! Zwiki 0.57 has been released. If you feel like it's been a while since last announcement, you're right. I have been in an intense phase of travelling, work hunting, adapting to a new job, and could not avoid the hiatus, for which I apologise. To be precise, in september, 0.56 was released but not announced on zope-announce; in august, 0.55 was released but not announced on zope-announce or zwiki.org; and in july, there was no release. Ack! Thus ends my four-year run of monthly releases. If you're interested in helping out with release management, or have ideas for simplifying Zwiki processes, get in touch. Thanks for your support. Peace, -Simon Summary --- Style and help cleanups, bugfixes. Upgrade notes - If you use the http://zwiki.org/HowToMakeContentsExpandable , you'll need to update it to work with the new expandable css class. Changes --- Configuring ... * reorganize stylesheet * add missing mathaction styles * rename aqtree3clickable css class to expandable Browsing * subtopics, page context, wiki contents styling fixes * make help page a built-in view like recentchanges etc. * help updates * make rss feeds and creationTime()/lastEditTime() more robust, eg when creation_time property is blank General ... * fix backwards compatibility for old page objects more detail at http://zwiki.org/ReleaseNotes. URLS - http://zwiki.org - start here - http://zwiki.org/FreeHosting - free zwiki hosting - http://joyful.com - zwiki demos and related sites - http://joyfulsystems.blogspot.com - blog ___ Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions (Related lists - Users: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope Developers: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-Annce] ANN: more zope.org wikis moved, zopewiki.org renamed
Zopistas, all wikis that were under http://zope.org/Wikis have now been moved to http://wiki.zope.org . The old wikis have been made read only. 60 wikis were moved. ~500 old dtml methods and ~1500 old wiki help pages were cleaned out. Mail subscriptions still need a little work. Enjoy! You may see some excellent docs you never saw before, I certainly did. I'm sure there's a lot of cleanup opportunities here - jump in. Also, zopewiki.org has been renamed to http://wiki.zope.org/zope2 . The old url was great to use, but the new one will fit better with the new scheme. Old zopewiki urls will redirect. All of these wikis should share cookies, so you only have to set your zwiki options once. All should have similar edit policies - full edit access, username option required. Please reply here with any problems. Thanks for going along with this - it was satisfying. :) -Simon ___ Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions (Related lists - Users: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope Developers: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-Annce] Zwiki 0.58 released
Zwiki 0.58 has been released: Simpler skin customization, bugfixes, cleanups. Upgrade notes If you have a very old zwiki relying on standard_wiki_header standard_wiki_footer dtml methods, these will now be ignored; you must use a wikipage page template to customise the skin. I don't think this will affect anyone (let me know if it did!) Installing * remove bad import from CMFInit breaking CMF/Plone installation (#1291, #1295) * /upgradeAll now sets up a catalog and tries to fix some common character encoding problems Configuring * accept zodb skin templates with .pt or .dtml suffixes too, for easy upload * when adding a wiki, keep image and file suffixes * when adding a wiki, set the stylesheet's content type to text/css * code cleanup, drop standard_wiki_header/standard_wiki_footer support * add use_issue_links boolean property Browsing * help page cleanups, link UsersGuide * clarify username option help * fix subtopics layout interference from unterminated stx lists literal blocks (#625) * improve contents page styling, make it like subtopics (but bigger) * fix star image in message-board-style subtopics template (#1305) Editing * fix editform helppage link * clarify page type names, change type to markup Issue tracking * set a medium severity when mailing in a new issue (kludgy, just picks the middle list element) General * use a more stable contents url to reduce bot traffic (#762, #699) (Simon Michael, Daniel Yount, Michael Haubenwallner, Sascha Welter) * handle unrecognised page types properly * numericVotes method to get votes without voter identities * merge Wikis.py into __init__ and Admin URLS - http://zwiki.org - start here - http://zwiki.org/FreeHosting - free zwiki hosting - http://joyful.com - zwiki demos and related sites - http://joyfulsystems.blogspot.com - blog ___ Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions (Related lists - Users: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope Developers: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope-Annce] Zwiki release process
Dear Zopistas and Zwiki fans, There will be no Zwiki release today; I haven't had time to work on the project. I apologise for being less active lately. I expect to put some more energy into it soon, but in the meantime if anyone wants to step up and take on some project/release management responsibility, to get things moving faster, that could be very useful. Please contact me if you're interested! Otherwise I will probably change the release schedule and process a bit to suit my current work/personal situation. Best wishes to all -Simon ___ Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions (Related lists - Users: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope Developers: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope-dev] I feel your Wiki Pain ;-)
Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder what Simon Michael is up to nowdays? I have been visiting family.. I'll be back in the US next week. Great thread here. I also feel this pain, grovelling around between wiki, mailing list, newsgroup, message board, etc. I wonder if we should expose all messages, edits and annotations in some RSS/RDF-like format, for easier syncing/monitoring/indexing of the different forums and to faciliate alternate UIs. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] I feel your Wiki Pain ;-)
I like where you're going with this Martijn. Spurred on by your concrete examples, how about this: every wiki page has an email address and functions as a "mailing list". Eg: I could subscribe or send edits to ZWikiWeb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] StructuredTextWiki:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (defaults to the front page) A zwikiweb could be seen as a hierarchy of very lightweight mail lists. When I subscribe to a page(list), I would also receive edits(mail) to its child pages(lists) by default. Implementation: a sufficiently smart mail server, or (better?) build on the "mail into zope" project for an all-zope solution. Eg: I might install and configure the "ZWikiMail" product, and suddenly my existing wikis are mail-enabled.. Comments ? -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] mailing list 'noise'
"Rik Hoekstra" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think everyone agees about that, but at least some of the participants in this discussion also agree that most of the existing discussion tools for any mode of discussion are frustrating and insufficient at times. Moreover, apparently not everyone favours the same mode of discussion and this alone would be more than enough justification for a product that would cater different modes of discussion _at_the_same_time_. Hear hear! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Flat Database/ZPatterns api, performance ?
Flat Database (was ListMate) is just what I need to whip up an
interface for non-technical administrators - thanks. So I migrated two
data tables ("workshops" "registrations") from gadfly to flatdb
instances using the CSV import feature, and the admin interface is
working fine.
I'm having a hard time, though, figuring out how to access the data
programmatically. I scavenged the docs (zpatterns wiki very helpful,
as far as it went; not much available for flatdb), searched the lists
(nothing) and grovelled around in the code. I'd appreciate any
comments or advice on the following.
1. how can I look up a row in the table by column value, other than
searching the whole table: ?
dtml-in "workshops.entryValues()"
dtml-if "getProperty('col_workshopid') == workshop"
dtml-var "getProperty('col_description')"
/dtml-if
/dtml-in
2. how can I add an entry to a table ? I tried this:
dtml-let entry="registrations.manage_addEntry()"
dtml-call "entry.manage_addProperty('col_workshopid','string','TEST')"
dtml-call "entry.manage_addProperty('col_firstname','string','TEST')"
dtml-call "entry.manage_addProperty('col_lastname','string','TEST')"
...
/dtml-let
and it seems to create a number of spurious rows with only the first
field set. This didn't work either:
dtml-call "registrations.manage_addEntry().manage_changeProperties(
col_workshopid='TEST', col_firstname='TEST', col_lastname='TEST', ... )"
3. displaying table contents seems quite slow. On this P100 with 48Mb
ram doing nothing but zope, no load and generally snappy, generating
the 50-row, 20-column registrations table listing takes 15
seconds. Any ideas about where this comes from ?
4. this is my first encounter with the mighty zpatterns. I wonder how
one might add a thing (data plugin ?) so that FlatDb could read the
data out of zgadfly or something faster, instead of migrating it as I
did ?
Many thanks!
-Simon
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[Zope-dev] ZWiki 0.7.0 release candidate (was Re: Cruft on dev.zope.org)
He 8-) ... sounds like a good time to mention the below (and Ken, your new feature priorities look very close to mine): I have uploaded a release candidate: http://zwiki.org/zwikidir/releases/ZWiki-0.7.0.tgz . Please hammer on it if you can - tomorrow is an auspicious date for release! ZWiki 0.7.0 2000-10-31 "Halloween!" * cookie-based user options, including edit form size, timezone, bookmarks and wikiwikiweb-style username (help from Phil Armstrong) * ZWiki is now zope 2.2-compatible (Garth Kidd) and -requiring, and benefits from the 2.2 security model. Executable dtml pages now run with those permissions that are common to both the page-viewing user and the wiki web's owner. Set the folder's owner to limit the permissions of executable pages. * incorporated updated Chris Withers' product for creating wiki webs * added streamlined "hierarchal2" wiki style other layout tweaks * wikiwikiweb-style late page creation * added simple javascript-disabling code * made paths work with virtual hosting again (Evan Simpson) * fixed unreliable ! line protection in structuredtext modes * fixed unreliable remote wiki links in classicwiki mode * more permissive remote wiki link regexps (Geoff Gardiner) * "with this" dtml kludge no longer needed * added built-in defaults for all dtml methods * simpler, more consistent urls api * code refactoring/cleanups, other misc. bugfixes It's dark.. and the witching hour is near. Don't be afraid.. :) -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] another debugging howto, and a question
Here are some draft howto-like things some might find helpful (improvements welcome) : http://zwiki.org/ZopeDebuggingRoadmap http://zwiki.org/HowToDebugZopeInEmacs and a burning question: how can I invoke zserver such that I will get the interactive debug prompt ? I'd like to have my breakpoints trigger when I access the server in the normal way with a web browser, poke around, let it run on and do it again. I was able to do this in the past and it's useful. Many thanks! -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zwiki 0.7.0 bugfix
this should resolve a problem with the recent release. From http://zwiki.org/FrontPageNews: "The original (pre-0.7.0) problem was this: in dtml modes, initial lines containing : followed by a blank line were not rendered (because they were considered to be http headers). The symptoms of my interim fix in 0.7.0 are this: ^M's appear at the beginning of pages and blank lines sometimes get eaten. I think I have a suitably ugly workaround now. It's running here and available in http://zwiki.org/zwikidir/releases/ZWiki-0.7.1rc3.tgz, please try it out." ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: question re problem adding zwiki webs
Re this error when adding a zwiki web: Error Type: KeyError Error Value: H?v`H?v$y_?-006412673360557 Content-Disposition: form-data; name="wiki_type" basic Tony McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is a Mac actually. IE 5.0. I've just asked a colleague to try creating a ZWikiWeb on his PC and it's worked fine! I do have other problems with IE 5.0 in that it has a limit on the number of things I can 'copy' and 'paste' - in general I don't bother doing it and export and reimport folders etc. I'd really like to know why it's behaving like that, I do have a *lot* of cookies in my IE and have also heard that the sequence in which HTTP headers are sent to IE can be an issue to (sigh) Thanks, that helps a lot! To narrow it down, if not to solve it :( It does appear that the problem is not with zwiki, but that HTTP form data headers are being sent in some unusual format and confusing zope. I wonder if you experience mac-IE-specific problems with other zope forms or forms in general. I suppose it could be related to your cut/paste problems. I'm cc'ing the list, perhaps someone knows more. Cheers, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] License issues
Juan, thanks for shining some light towards this murky area. Maybe ZWiki and other zope products need to be LGPL or dual-licensed, maybe the zope license can use some refinement. I for one won't know without seeing some enlightened discussion of the issue. This stuff is unsexy but important. Best regards, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] License issues
Simon Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, if someone wants to distribute something which includes zope and one or more GPL products. I mean, eg, you want to distribute your end-user package Easy Portal Creator 2000, based on zope/ptk/squishdot/zwiki. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] zwiki ZUnit support added
This is great, Lalo! Thanks. I checked in ZUnit support to ZWiki-cvs, and the first couple of unit tests. Suddenly, I feel all Extreme! FWIW, here's how I run the tests. I made a TestRunner called ZWikiTests, pointing to "Products.ZWiki.TestSuite". I have these rules in a makefile: unit-test test: @wget -nv 'http://username:password@localhost:port/ZWikiTests/manage_startTests' -O TESTOUTPUT @cat TESTOUTPUT refresh: @wget --spider -nv 'http://username:password@localhost:port/Control_Panel/Products/ZWiki/manage_refresh?performRefresh=1quickRefresh=1' After making some changes to the product files, I make refresh test 200 OK 14:03:17 URL:http://username:password@localhost:port/ZWikiTests/manage_startTests [34] - "TESTOUTPUT" [1] . . . Time: 1.329s OK (3 tests) This rocks. In fact, as I ran the above it caught a typo in ZWiki/Tests.py which otherwise you all would have had to deal with. -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] FYI: calling doctest from ZUnit
I added some ZUnit tests which invoke Tim Peters' doctest testing framework in the zope environment. More at http://zwiki.org/DocTest regards, -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] (was Flat Database/ZPatterns api, performance ?)
Itamar Shtull-Trauring [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon Michael wrote:
Flat Database (was ListMate) is just what I need to whip up an
interface for non-technical administrators - thanks. So I migrated two
data tables ("workshops" "registrations") from gadfly to flatdb
instances using the CSV import feature, and the admin interface is
working fine.
I wrote flat database because I wanted some features ListMate didn't have
and didn't want ZClasses. I basically copied the structure from ListMate,
so it's probably not the best design possible for ZPatterns. So (1) may not
be possible with the current code.
Itamar, thanks for your suggestions on this. I never got it working.
Frustrated by a period of intense Zope Developer Pain I fell back
on.. you've guessed it.. my favorite hammer.
For this application I found that a zwiki page containing a CSV table
makes a micro-db that's relatively easy to administer work with (and
it's almost editable with MS Excel). I made a support method for doing
queries: http://zwiki.org/QueryCsv
Question for the list: is this nuts ? I somehow doubt it would pass
the ACID test, but zope's transactions help and at least for this app
(small data, low load, mostly appending) it seems to have worked well.
-Simon
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Re: [Zope-dev] Significance of the ZODB split?
Michel Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am, in particular, barely not lazy enough to check stuff into branches, much less whole other repositories. ;) Nicely put. Posted on zwiki.org so I can use it later. :) -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] New UI for 2.3
Simon Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it needs an image content-type ? Sorry, just my flaky link. For shame, to think such a thing. My two cents on the screenshot: - looks like good progress! - the top bar as shown definitely doesn't make best use of my precious screen space, should become a user option - for what it's worth I too spend most of my time in manage_main to avoid frames confusion - agree with Andy's point about many shades of blue - I think the black might grow on me - stating-the-obvious: a centralized stylesheet and more user preferences for all management pages would be good -Simon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
