Hmm...
(a) Is a great idea
(b) How would this work in practice?
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as the
user Zope runs as, which I assume is not the same as ${zopeuser}
Minor personal request:
*) Is there any way to detect if apache is installed, and have zope run as
the apache user? This would be great for CGI support, etc.
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were not at all disappointing.
Thnx in advance,
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I wouldn't say so. I used to run Zope on a Win2k A/S and the perf was not
noticably better than on a similar Pro machine.
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to note that I am *very* pleased with recent Collector activities!
Dieter
Yeah! Of course, I forgot it was a bug day, and I saw the collector
mailbombing me - I was about to file a bug report on it, I couldn't believe
that much activity was genuine! :)
Good work guys!
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(but I can't remember for sure).
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, or could it have a ZMI tab of it's own
(Both of these are easier than live patching the DTML)?
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, then what is the problem with a ZMI
tab (Titled zShell or Command Line or whatever). This could easily be
implimented, would survive upgrades, and (To me at least) would be a more
logical interface.
Jim
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Why do you say it will not always work?
What situations might cause it not to work (Assuming that we already know
that the object is acquisition wrapped?)
Also, is there any hope of the documentation for acquisition being fleshed
out a little and brought up to date?
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Ooops, I meant this to go to the list as well...
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Although I would probably avoid what you are trying to do
How hard would it be to move these into DateTime? Or is there are reason
they were not put there in the first place?
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clients improve, caching is just bad IMHO.
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Hmm... which of 'title' and 'Title' is now considered correct form? That one
certainly needs and index and metadata. The others probably not.
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If this is not in the PatchKit you have, you can get it from my CVS at
http://cvs.haqa.co.uk/viewcvs/Products/PatchKit (there is a tarball option
there to, which should work).
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Computers are like air conditioners
PatchKit handles this for you (If you ask it to).
:)
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Computers are like air conditioners
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) but there is a patch that puts the ZMI in the ZODB.
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Computers are like air conditioners
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Look at my PatchKit product. It provides a framework that allows multiple
patches to be applied to any combination of products.
Drop me a line if you need the api clarified.
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Computers are like air conditioners
I've seen this under 2.5.0, but I don't recall seeing it under 2.3.x or
2.4.x
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no
significant problems with it, and as for it being a problem for caching
proxies, many of the objects that get acquired are dynamic, and provide
different content based on context, so multiple cache entries is the correct
answer.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the TTW part is what is one of the
strenghts of Zope -
Well, no, not really. Being able to edit stuff remotely is where Zope's
real strength
lies. WebDAV and FTP are much better than using sucky HTTP forms to do
this ;-)
Babies. bathwater.
Whereas XML attributes, order indeterminisim, slots, METAL and templates
are?
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Don't even get me started on that one!
I don't think this is neccessarily a criticism of Zope though, or ZPT. We
are all human, and apt to err. ZPT is imperfect, but the balance of opinion
would appear to be that it is better than what has gone before. It is
irritating to learn a new syntax, it
Hey, watch who you are calling One Person... :)
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Yeah, for CSS I'd use ZStyleSheets, and for javascript I'd use a very large
magnet... but that is another argument.
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Maybe a little Perl psychology might help us here, i.e. There is more than
one way to do it - Some are faster, some more feature rich, and (in this
case) some are TTW codeable. The only ones that are actually _wrong_ are the
ones that don't work at all.
ZClasses are one of the two things that
From: Gary Poster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree that
we ought to trash frames
we ought to use strict xhtml 1.0
we ought to rely on CSS for all graphic elements
(correlative) we ought to not use *any* shims or non-logical tables
the site ought to work completely without JS or Flash
Yes. The best solution would be for the ZEO protocol to support auth and
crypto natively...
+10 (At least)
The next best solution (while you wait) is to use CIPE ;-)
Could be, if you can:
a) Get your customers to run a platform it's been ported to
b) Run something so low level that is
If you want to make a quick change to the ZMI top or left pane, look at my
latest PatchKit - It turns them into ZMI objects so you can customize the
ZMI.
(I am sure there are as many changes people want to make to the ZMI as there
are users of Zope...)
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I agree, though the problem would not have even occured if someone had not
put in the style=width:100%. IE's width=100% attribute works ok, it's just
the style and stylesheet handling that blows.
There is already a way (In fact two ways) to define the width of text entry
boxes, please can the
Two points about deleting services (Well one really, just looked at from two
angles):
1) Services must have fully stopped before you delete them, or they get
marked for deletion on the next reboot (Good, solid server software:
expecting frequent reboots!)
2) The service must have had all the SCM
This sounds like a security acident waiting to happen. I wouldn't want to be
the one to have to ensure there were no security holes in the surrounding
code that might allow the script to get rewritten.
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I would like to second this idea.
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Not a bad idea. On that note, can we add an API to add Control_Panel icons
please?
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, and misfortune into gain.
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As far as I can tell from my experiences at work, the answer is somewhere in
between. Yes it acts on all User Folders below the folder containing the CC,
but it seems to get a little confused if the DTML scripts (Or at least some
of them) are not in the same folder with each UF.
Not fully tested
I have to say I agree, up to a point.
I think that monkeypatching goes right to the very heart of the language -
Python was written not just to allow it, but it's opperation almost
encorages it (Sort of). HOWEVER, I am somewhat against a monkeypatch being
made part of the core distribution (No
I have been working on a compression patch as a component of my PatchKit
product for some time now, but I have been hitting a few problems, and had
put it to one side while I worked on a couple of other products. If people
still want to see something like this, I can bring the code out of
It uses the configuration set on the ODBC DSN I think. At least that is what
appears to happen.
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Just to paint the complete picture (As I think the readme/news article does
not at the moment).
1) The ODBC Socket Server software for the Windows database server can be
downloaded from http://odbc.sourceforge.net/ which is the primary source for
Team FXML's excellant product.
2) The next
This is based on the new Python 2.2 stuff, isn't it? I would guess the
answer would be You exclude the 'self' first arg in a class method.
Unfortunately I am still trying to digest what has changed in Python 2.2, so
I am probably not the best person to answer beyond this point. There was a
link
Try using a site access rule, it's almost as powerfull as the traversal
roulette, but it happens after zope has finished traversing. You could write
a Python Script, something like:
=
import string
if string.split(context.REQUEST['PATH_INFO'], '/')[-1] ==
'my_parent_folder':
the
right things?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Just a quick note on this point, there are two points during startup when a
product can get control:
1) When the __init__.py is imported
2) When the initialize function within that __init__.py is called.
These seem to occur quite far apart in terms of loaded modules so to get
something done
.
If there is just one point in the code that I need to add a few exceptions
to the Can't start with _ rule, then I can do that - This project is
fairly important.
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Now there is an idea. Not product'able (Is that a word?) but it might work
for this specific instance.
Thanks
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about everything I can think of, can anyone shed any light?
Is this a special rule I have broken?
Thanks.
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working for IE
If anyone wants the patch to play with, drop me a line (It's a file to add
to the PatchKit folder. PatchKit auto-loads all patches it finds - just
restart Zope, or refresh PatchKit).
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I've been away and I am only just catching up with Zope-dev. I have been
working on a ZCGI product for a long time, but I keep getting stuck when I
try to port it to Windows (No pipes - No nothing in fact) :(
If you want to look at the code, drop me a line
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You might have a point there. RedHat seem to have quite a functional
business model going on, perhaps zope could borrow some ideas from there. I
know that many people that currently run Linux (Home and work) would no do
so except for RedHat, Suse or Mandrake.
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Just to let you know, I am looking at patching ZServer using my PatchKit
product to do Content-Encoding: ... stuff... anyone interested in testing
when I get it running?
(Probably a couple of days before I get a running version...)
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Limiting the list of products in the Add Object list can be done currently
using my PatchKit product - http://www.zope.org/Members/haqa/PatchKit
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I'll leave the CVS to others, XML stuff is right where I am looking at the
moment. My XML kit is not standards based (And anyone who has spoken to me
about XMLKit will know that I don't like the current SAX/DOM implementations
in python as they try to make Python think like Java...). I have been
This sugestion gets my vote. Simple enough that it could be implemented
without major work, transparent enough for people debugging, but making the
REQUEST object more accessible to non-experts.
I like!
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I suspect this is a bug. I thinmk it is due to upgrading your data.fs from
an earlier version of Zope. At some point in time Control_Panel has been
created as a object in data.fs, and this object has an _objects tuple that
contains the objects from 2.2 or more likely 2.3...
I have this at work,
( normal stuff ...):
def icon(self):
if self._i_am_broken_:
return misc_/MyProduct/MyClassBrokenIcon
else:
return misc_/MyProduct/MyClassNotBrokenIcon
You've got to love python :)
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I have to disagree about the Zope (%s), I have been known to run 2 or 3 Zope
services, for different instances, and I always know that I can find them
all huddled together at the bottom of the Service Manager - Very useful.
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I edit the registry... One of my many favourite pass-times, right up there
with running out in traffic.
Seriously though, once an instance is configured, why would you want to
change it? (Assuming you get it right that is)
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Sent: Monday, 09 July
Rename the catalog from 'events' to 'Catalog' and CatalogAwareBase should
start working.
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Subject: [Zope-dev] ZClass and ZCatalog
Hello Guys,
I've a
Title: Formatted Document
Is the code for the Formatted Document object type used in the Zope.org Members area available anywhere? I would like to use it as the basis for something I am working on.
If not I'll just roll my own STXDocument and STXMethod types.
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Title: RE: [Zope-dev] request.set
What this does is set a key/value pair in the REQUEST variable (Which is a sort of python dictionary, just with extra smarts).
DTML will not let you do dtml-call REQUEST['record_ids']=0 for security reasons, so the REQUEST variable has the .set method which
Title: RE: [Zope-dev] SOAP again (or, xml-rpc client for MSIE)
What are you actually trying to achive?
Adrian...
Phil Harris wrote:
Brad,
There are a few COM/COM+ components around that do xml-rpc.
I use them with MS Word to write Word files directly to Zope for instance.
Title: RE: [Zope-dev] dtml-in batching improved
Back before the zope.org product directory became so easy to navigate I wrote an index
that I used to use which has batch links top and bottom:
http://www.zope.org/Members/haqa/productlist/view_source
Dunno if this helps...
Adrian...
)? In that case, Zope will not show you the other tabs because the Anonymous User is not allow to see them.
(Does it show that this one got me too???)
What version of which browser are you using?
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Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog features
RE: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog features I think that the idea of exposing these
_in addition_ to (as opposed to instead
of) the current way it works is a good idea.
What does
Title: RE: [Zope-dev] CoreSessionTracking
Do you mean:
from AccessControl import getSecurityManager
security = getSecurityManager()
user = security.getUser()
userName = user.getUserName()
???
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Title: RE: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)
May be I am misunderstanding your problem here, but are you suggesting that
SELECT tab1.col1 col1, tab2.col1 col2
FROM ... etc ...
Does not expose 'col1' and 'col2' in the namespace for you? This is not my
cnt, with testval=0 you get a column called halfcnt. Isn't this just what you are saying doesn't work?
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Sent: Friday, 20 April 2001 15:21
To: [EMAIL
, in evaluate
File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\SearchIndex\UnTextIndex.py, line 448, in __getitem__
TypeError: (see above)
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Title: RE: [Zope-dev] Catalog in 2.3.1
Does anyone know if/when this will make it into a release? I am about to deploy a Helpdesk/Knowledge Base product which is very heavily Catalog based.
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From: seb
Is it just me, or is there a bug in the "Edit" tab of the "Zope Permission"
object used when creating ZClass products?
When I hit "Save Changes" I get:
-
Zope Error
Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
Invalid request
The parameter, name,
Does the same occur if you serve using something else ('DTML Method',
'File', 'ZStyleSheet' etc)
I have noticed problems with Netscapes handling of Text/CSS stylesheets. It
appears that long or particularly complex stylesheets that can be (And here
is the kicker) downloaded too quickly, do not
Is there a database connector or similar for MS-SQL Server that might run on
non-windows Zopes?
Adrian...
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