[Zope] Re: Zope restart fails

2005-10-03 Thread George Donnelly

John Poltorak wrote:

running 'sh zopectl start' appears to work but then Zope quickly falls 
over.



try ./runzope and tell us what happens.

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[Zope] Re: MemoryError that brings my zope to its knees

2005-09-13 Thread George Donnelly


This problem will happen and there will still be 1GB of free RAM and it 
hasn't touched the swap at all.  We are running FreeBSD 4.10 on this box.


the kernel limits the amount of ram a process can bind by default.


try the following

put this in /boot/loader.conf


kern.maxdsiz=1610612736
kern.dfldsiz=1610612736
kerm.maxssiz=1610612736

put the following into your kernel conf file, rebuild your kernel and 
reboot:



options MAXDSIZ=(768*1024*1024)
options MAXSSIZ=(256*1024*1024)
options DFLDSIZ=(768*1024*1024)


the values are examples only, you will need to play with them to find 
the right ones. keep in mind that the wrong ones, e if you put them too 
close to the amount of physical ram in the box could cause the box not 
to boot.


hth

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[Zope] Re: Zope Foundation Update

2005-07-21 Thread George Donnelly

Hadar Pedhazur wrote:
George Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Making either side into the bad guy is not only innacurate but also
inappropriate and is not conducive to building a community around the
software we all love and are grateful to ZC and non-ZC related
programmers alike for, Zope.



Please don't say that things are innacurate when you
aren't involved, and have already repeated a number of
innacuracies yourself, which were readily available for
you to check before you repeated them...


Thankfully i'm not directly involved in these pointless  internecine
battles between ZC and one of its founders, but I am involved in the zope
community and ZC brought this issue into the community so i am involved
as is everyone else here. You don't get to make the issue public and
then tell people they aren't involved.

According to rob page's post of yesterday, Zope registered the word
Zope while ZEA registered the Zope logo. So when i ask why didn't ZC
register the marks earlier, i am clearly not repeating an innaccuracy,
unless you are saying that rob page's post to zope announce was innacurate.









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[Zope] Re: Zope Foundation Update

2005-07-20 Thread George Donnelly

Hadar Pedhazur wrote:

ZC says: the marks were stolen
ZEA seems to be saying: the marks were registered defensively.

My read on this is that there is a serious communication problem going
on here between the lines. Why doesn't Paul come out and state what the
ZEA position is? Why are ZC's words so angry?

ZC saying the marks were stolen seems a little over the top. What if ZEA
registered them defensively? if that's possible then ZEA should be given
then  benefit of the doubt and not be called a thief. If there was a
need to register them to protect zope, then why didn't ZC do it?

Everybody needs to calm down, stop insulting each other and stop
broadcasting this problem to the whole world on zope-announce (for
example). Its making us all look  childish.

Making either side into the bad guy is not only innacurate but also
inappropriate and is not conducive to building a community around the
software we all love and are grateful to ZC and non-ZC related
programmers alike for, Zope.

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[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Using 2.3.2 for Zope 2.7

2003-10-03 Thread george donnelly
[Chris McDonough wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 10/3/03 9:21 AM]

 Some people at ZC have made pretty compelling arguments to make Python
 2.3.2 the recommended version of Python to use with Zope 2.7 final.
 I'm wondering if other people have a strong feeling about this either
 way.

yes please. :) python 2.3 seems a lot faster to me and even quite stable so
far.

or did you mean 2.2.3?

fwiw, i built zope 2.7.0b2 with python2.3 on freebsd 5.0 a couple days ago
without problem and its now serving several medium-traffic CMF sites stably
and with very little if any mem leakage.

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Re: [Zope] DTML problem

2000-07-26 Thread George Donnelly

this is probably a hack but you could use the id of the document you want to
exclude with an unless statement.  this is what i did when i wanted to
exclude the index_html doc

dtml-in "PARENTS[0].objectValues(['DTML Document'])" reverse
sort=bobobase_modification_time
dtml-unless "_.string.find(_['id'],'index_html')==0"
pa href="dtml-var URL1/dtml-var id"dtml-var title/abr
dtml-if jdatedtml-var jdatebr/dtml-if
dtml-if summary dtml-var summarybr/dtml-if
last modified: dtml-var bobobase_modification_time fmt=pCommonp
/dtml-unless
/dtml-in

hth

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 But I don't want to show the current "DTML Document" as part
 of the menue.


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Re: [Zope] ZClass tutorial

2000-07-24 Thread George Donnelly

yeah i know how ya feel. even for little stuff i have to scrounge and beg
for help. :-(

hopefully this will improve when the O'Reilly Zope book comes out.

btw have you checked out the pdf files of all the howto's and tip's? i've
found them to be really helpful

http://www.zope.org/Members/AlexR/

also this list archives is really useful i think. i get a lot of stuff from
here

http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/$$Search?OpenForm

hth

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own. --Aesop 

 Hi, some thoughts(and frustrations) from a newbie having his "first time"
 with Zope.
 
 The documentation needs a lot of improvement.
snip
 sigh...i foresee a rocky road ahead for this newbie to master the 'Zen' of
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Re: [Zope] zcatalog and squishdot newbie question

2000-07-23 Thread George Donnelly

i'm a bit of a newbie myself so take my advice with a grain of salt, but...

you shouldn't need to create a Catlog and then put your Squishdot site in
it. The main squishdot site *is* a Catalog, or has Catalog-like qualities.
(i think).

if you want to be able to search the Squishdot site *and* other stuff you
should be able to select the Squishdot site as well as whatever other
Catalogs you have when you add a Z Search Interface.

hth

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The man who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever
been. --Alan Ashley-Pitt

 I have created a catalog and added my squishdot site to it.  However,
 when I go to look at the catalog contents there are no squishdot
 articles listed (the suishdot site object is listed though).  When I run
 a search for a keyword that I know is in the squishdot object, I get no
 matches (but do when I search for other non-squishdot keywords).  I
 thought this may have something to do with running squishdot 3.1 so I
 upgraded to 4.1, reindexed and still nothing.  What could be the
 problem?  I heard somone say something about your catalog cataloging
 itself (mine does)- should it do this?  I tried removing it but nothing.


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Re: [Zope] all DTML Methods of current folder and subfolder

2000-07-21 Thread George Donnelly

sorry to butt-in on this thread :^)

how can i get the contents of sub-folders as well?

i tried ZopeFind but i am just getting errors.

thanks

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 At 07:21 21.07.2000 +, Wolfgang Klinger wrote:
 I have a dtml method in a folder which should
 display all "document_title"s of all
 "DTML Method"s in the current folder and
 all sub folders!
 
 (should work as navigation frame)
 
 How can I do that?
 
 I tried
 dtml-in "Info.objectValues(['DTML Method'])"
 where "Info" is the current folder where the
 method itself is stored
 but that didn't work ... :-(
 
 Try using PARENTS[0] instead of Info if you want to display the current
 folder content. I am using the following (with a few sorting options for
 the dtml-in tag) in a ZClass (inheriting from CatalogAware and Folder) I
 created to render the content of the current folder.
 
 dtml-in  "PARENTS[0].objectValues(['DTML Method'])"
 dtml-var title_or_id
 /dtml-in


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Re: [Zope] linuxworld article

2000-07-17 Thread George Donnelly

as a newbie i am kind of glad that there are no slick interfaces. i want to
learn. i dont need to be coddled. :-)

is it important for zope to be "big" like MS and oracle? [lets think about
that for a second; do you really want to say that zope should be like MS or
MS products? yeah MS has some good points, but ...] or high-quality, open,
"home-grown", *real* ...?

i thought oss was supposed to be different ... ? :-/

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... However, for new users it could be disappointed.
 The interface does not look slick and does not offer interesting looking
 wizards that invite to click on. I think it should ! The first acquaintance
 with Zope should be a joy ! A new world opening up, a world where everything
 seems to be possible !  ;-)
 Maybe a bit commercial thinking, but hey, thats what made Microsoft and
 Oracle big. Not by delivering but simply by promising... At least Zope
 delivers, so what we need is showing the world it does.


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Re: [Zope] Re: Re: [Zope] ZStylesheet

2000-07-16 Thread George Donnelly

h. thats too bad. you should upgrade him to mozilla at least ... :-)

seriously tho i think (havent tried it) that the stylesheets at w3c will get
as muuch mileage out of nn4 as possible ( tho you probably knew this
already)

well hth

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 Thanks for the encouragement George. By the way, my director uses Netscape 4
 :-(
 
 Neil
 
 try http://www.w3.org/StyleSheets/Core/
 
 dont give up on css yet! frankly i woudnt even worry about netscape 4.x,


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[Zope] FW: [Zope] linuxworld article

2000-07-16 Thread George Donnelly

this is a smear and a cowardly one. one small complaint about the default
dtml methods produced when creating a zclass does not an intelligent
criticism make!

zope is not perfect  but he failed to describe any serious problems. imo


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abdication that invites them to take over. --Ayn Rand


 http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2000-07/lw-07-penguin_2.html
 
 Hmm...what is your opinion on the article above? I'm interested to see the
 author's comparison btwn Enhydra and Zope.
 
 regards,
 firestar


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Re: [Zope] MetaPublisher DB - was linuxworld article

2000-07-16 Thread George Donnelly

 this version will come with a few other goodies --- but we prefer to keep some
 things a surprise.

might i hope that one of these goodies will be an improvement in the way
metapublisher interacts with zcatalogs?

see my post in june to the mp list below:


i have several MP instances in subfolders and need to present the most
recent mp entries from any/all of the these MP instances on my index_html
page in the zope root.

when i add a Z search interface in the zope root it only offers me the
Catalog in the zope root as a searchable object and does not seem to be
aware of any mp_catalog's.

alternatively i could find all meta entry's to the Catalog in the zope root
but the meta entry meta type does not show up in the selection list. how
could i find the meta entrys without finding all objects? can anybody
recommend an expression? i tried something like meta type==meta entry but
this was a no go -- it returned ALL objects

the only way i could do it is by adding each individual mp entry's id into
the find to catalog mechanism. for a site with any traffic this could be a
major bummer!

then the next problem was that when i used the getpath directive to get a
url for the records returned by the Catalog i got a url like this
mpfolder/mp_entries/9995757.435 which plays all kinds of havoc with my
carefully crafted directory structure ;-|

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Re: [Zope] ZStylesheet

2000-07-15 Thread George Donnelly

try http://www.w3.org/StyleSheets/Core/

dont give up on css yet! frankly i woudnt even worry about netscape 4.x,

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 Warning: This is a 'get it off my chest' e-mail.
 
 Well, I am going to give up with CSS. I am sure ZStylesheet is a fine
 product, its just that CSS implementations lets it down.
 
 I have struggled for ages to get anything more sophisticated than
 font-family* to work on both IE5 and Netscape 4.6 - no chance. It seems
 they have both implemented CSS from a different hymn sheet :-( Basically,
 nothing to do with sizes works the same, and it boils down to Netscape
 ignoring the inheritance model of CSS. table rows and cells are a
 particular mystery.
 
 If anyone has cracked it and has developed a ZStylesheet which can second
 guess both browsers, please let me know. Until then, I will go back to
 using font size="12pt" or whatever. Shame, but I have more interesting
 things to worry about.
 
 Regards
 
 Neil
 
 *even font-family doesn't work for the BODY selector. Tables in Netscape
 ignore it so you have to use BODY TR TD as the selector.


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[Zope] RFC: is this the best way to make a referal app and a jump navmenu *2nd time*menu *2nd time*

2000-07-04 Thread George Donnelly

Basically i would like people's opinions as to whether i built these things
in the "right" way or not. tia!

jump menu

*created a selection list and told it to pass a variable (the url of the
selected item) called "url" to a method called "jump" which consists of the
following:

dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"

its a little slow but it works :-)

referral product (as in http://www.recommend-it.com/)

i pass the variables on the first page (where people enter name, email, and
up to 5 of their friends email addresses) to a method called success

here's the problem i think: since i am enabling people to email up to 5
friends, i've got 5 copies of the same email message in the success method
inside the sendmail tags. the last 4 are in if statements.

i know there must be a better way but i really have no idea. any help?

(btw if anybody wants to use these things just email me and ill send you the
terribly simple yet useful code. :-)

tia!

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[Zope] RFC: is this the best way to make a referal app and a jumpnav menunav menu

2000-07-01 Thread George Donnelly

Basically i would like people's opinions as to whether i built these things
in the "right" way or not. tia!

jump menu

*created a selection list and told it to pass a variable (the url of the
selected item) called "url" to a method called "jump" which consists of the
following:

dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(url)"

its a little slow but it works :-)

referral product (as in http://www.recommend-it.com/)

i pass the variables on the first page (where people enter name, email, and
up to 5 of their friends email addresses) to a method called success

here's the problem i think: since i am enabling people to email up to 5
friends, i've got 5 copies of the same email message in the success method
inside the sendmail tags. the last 4 are in if statements.

i know there must be a better way but i really have no idea. any help?

(btw if anybody wants to use these things just email me and ill send you the
terribly simple yet useful code. :-)

tia!

Regards,
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Re: [Zope] newbie changingover to zope from html/cgi??

2000-06-17 Thread George Donnelly

you do need zope to be installed on your isp (webhost). not all hosts will
allow it though. you should ask whether they have any policy about
long-running processes.

in order to install you need to download the appropriate version of zope,
ftp it into the appropriate place and then unpack it and there's more.

download zope and then take a good look at the included documentation. it
can be confusing but you'll just have to work thru it. there are also some
how-to's on the zope.org site that can help fill in some of the gaps.

as far as perl goes maybe this will help:
http://www.zope.org/Members/Mamey/PHP

as far as converting your previous site, it will most-likley not be a
one-click thing. it shouldn't be too difficult though. the strcuture and
organization that works well for html/perl stuff is not the optimal one for
zope. in zope you can break stuff down into pieces, like a header footer and
etc and then include them anywhere for example (maybe you are already doing
this with ssi.)

hth


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tried. --Bud Wilkinson

 
 Hi,
 I am newbie to zope(infact installed it yesterday). Just impressed with
 its capabilities. But there are somethings i cant figure out.
 
 I want to transfer a whole website containg javascript/html/cgi on
 zope. how do i do it. is it possible.
 
 Do i need to have zope on the ISP for my zope website to run.
 
 I only have ftp access on my ISP. Which files should i transfer so that
 the zope application works. btw i couldnot locate the files/database on my
 system about the webiste i am building. where is the database for the
 application kept.
 
 I donot know python but do know perl, can i add modules to zope in perl.
 
 Thanks.


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Re: [Zope] zope as program

2000-06-13 Thread George Donnelly

as a newbie myself i can say that i experienced some considerable
frustration in getting zope up and going and using it. (i still am!) the
documentation and mailing list support is mediocre so far at best,
especially when it comes to newbie questions.

so i can understand where you're coming from.

**BUT** zope kicks ass. so just give it a little time. its worth it.

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Love does not consist of gazing at each other, but in looking outward
together in the same direction. --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

 On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Malcolm C. Mallette wrote:
 
 Zope is the worst excuse of a program I have ever encountered.


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Re: [Zope] zope as program

2000-06-13 Thread George Donnelly

true. and this newbie searches first before asking. however i have noticed
my questions very often going unanswered. yeah they may be stupid but i only
ask if i cant find it myself.

it only takes a moment for you gods to respond to easy newbie questions and
help point us in the right direction. in other areas where i approach god
status i do it all the time. it falls under the heading of being a good
community member. 

the fact is that the zope documentation sucks bigtime and is not easy to
search. there are lots of ambiguities.

if people really want zope to be successful and reach a wide audience i
encourage you to think about this.

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It's a funny thing about life; if you refuse to accept anything but the
best, you very often get it. --W. Somerset Maugham

 People are usually annoyed about newbie questions, since they have been
 answered a thousand times, but noone is willing to search the mailing list
 archives. I usually find 70% of the time the answers to my questions there.


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Re: [Zope] Where can I install Zope?

2000-05-29 Thread George Donnelly

it can be run on a virtual host its just that zope is a long running process
and therefore uses up a lot of resources. so some hosts dont like it.

you can search at zope.org for some official zope hosts that will provide
you a vhost account with zope already installed. alternatively if you are
wiling to install maintain etc yourself you can look for a more agreeable
host. i took the second route with csoft.net

be advised tho that installing zope without having root acess is a major
headache

Regards,
GEORGE DONNELLY
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And be on they guard against the good and the just! They would fain curcify
those who devise their own virtue -- they hate the lonesome ones.
--Friederich Nietzsche


 I just found out that I cannot run executable files on my server.  I have a
 9NetAve.net virtual hosting account.  They tell me I cannot run Zope on the
 server.  
 
 Does anyone know this to be true?   (Will not run on a virtual host)  Do I
 have to have my own server?
 
 If so could someone suggest an alternate service or something for me?
 
 
 Thank You
 Darin Mosier


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[Zope] km net news: missing rate and genpop?

2000-05-26 Thread George Donnelly

when i create a lm artticle store i only 5 files (plus the catalog of
course)
  article_footer
  article_header
  incoming.html
  item_html
  popular.html

although there are a tons of files inside the km net news folder in the
products folder i am not seeing anything else when i create the article
store. is this right? am i missing something?

zope 2.1.6 with python methods installed.

tia

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whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can
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