[Zope] Cobalt Qube

have no Linux experience ) -- Graham Chiu ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http

Re: [Zope] insert but updates don't work

. Is this considered ancient? I have a work round, and now find what I was trying to do has not succeeded in speeding up my queries :-( -- Graham Chiu ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

[Zope] insert but updates don't work

into another table with each value returned, it works fine. Is there something special about sql updates? -- Graham Chiu ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope] insert but updates don't work

of the methods is using DTML which requires higher authentication privledges. But I'm the superuser. When it fails the authentication, it says I don't have rights to access standard_html_header -- Graham Chiu ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Zope] Tiny tables

/dtml-with I get: Error Type: AttributeError Error Value: 'string' object has no attribute 'manage_editData' or dtml-with MyZClass dtml-call "_[p_tinytable].manage_editData(newData)" /dtml-with I get: Error Type: AttributeError Error Value: manage_editData -- Graham Chiu

[Zope] Why doesn't this method work?

buteError Error Value: 'string' object has no attribute 'manage_editData' -- Graham Chiu ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/

Re: [Zope] Why doesn't this method work?

the howto at http://www.zope.org/Members/cguardia/changeTinyTable which doesn't use the getitem() function. -- Graham Chiu ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Rel

[Zope] Tiny tables

, it gets changed to just criteria. Any suggestions as to how to store the input as tokens for my reports? -- Graham Chiu ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

Re: [Zope] demo Zboard 0.2.4

' but this is not defined anywhere. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts

[Zope] worldpilot and communigate pro

if this combination ( NT, Communigate, worldpilot) works? The worldpilot mailing archives do not seem to be accessible. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist

Re: [Zope] worldpilot and communigate pro

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Graham Chiu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I came across communigate pro which is a multiplatform IMAP server ( www.stalker.com ). I've set it up under Win32, and tried to connect to it using a new installation of worldpilot. The IMAP port is at 143. However

Re: [Zope] Need an SQL based auth system that works with Zope 2.2

, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http

Re: [Zope] linuxworld article

"Expecting someone to code in a browser text box is considered a human-rights violation in most civilized nations" the small text browser box encourages code to be factored. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbas

Re: [Zope] Zboard 0.1 released

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], rainlood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hello. I want to announce this. http://www.zope.org/Members/rainlood/Zboard/ Umm, what is it? -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

Re: [Zope] ANN: Forthcoming Zope Book

to contribute their own chapters? Or, is this too radical g -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope

[Zope] Non compliant robots

going thru my site comes from 171.69.236.238 and 171.69.236.239 - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 iQA/AwUBOVpAZbTRdIWzaLpMEQLmGwCcDRIgm2pZo0XLAGTd

Re: [Zope] Non compliant robots

of a product g -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding

Re: [Zope] 2.2.0b2 dies in Windows NT4

step is to determine which product is activating the problem. Damm. It works okay as a fresh new installation. So, there must be something screwy with one of the products I have installed. I guess I have to go thru and delete each one until I find the culprit. -- Regards, Graham Chiu

[Zope] 2.2.0b2 dies in Windows NT4

authentication challenges from ZopeSecurityPolicy.py when I use the getName() method of the session object. Hopefully this will go away if I upgrade to the latest version. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

Re: [Zope] zgadfly and zsql problem

support da LIKE sql tag! anyone have an ID ??? It doesn't AFAIK. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org

Re: [Zope] Validating page entry help

MediServe Information Systems Never go back - always go forward! http://www.zope.com/Members/gchiu/ Explanation of one way to build bullet proof data entry forms -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

Re: [Zope] User DB, GUF, et al broken under 2.1.7?

and try to use it in 2.1.4. ARGH... Help! Have you actually tried reinstalling 2.1.4? I've never had a problem with installing an older version on top of a newer one. - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN

[Zope] Re: From where does nothing spring from?

. ha! OK, I maybe wrong.) Not really, I continue to be confused by Zope syntax and so make these errors all the time g -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.1.5/6/7 ZSQLMethods problem

? -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.1.5/6/7 ZSQLMethods problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In article 00036a32b44872a1_mailit@mail-hub, Stephen Cimarelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes So what the best choice? Zope 2.1.4 and MySQL or Zope 2.1.7 and no MySQL? It's all sql adapters not just MySQL. - -- Regards, Graham Chiu

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope 2.1.5/6/7 upgrading issues

. What's the explanation for the breaking of SQLMethods in the first place? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 iQA/AwUBOUnZILTRdIWzaLpM

Re: [Zope] zope-web issues was: (Re: [Zope] How do you search Tiny Tables?)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], ethan mindlace fremen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Graham Chiu wrote: There is a TinyTables+ product, but da***ed if I can find it thru the search mechanism on www.zope.com Graham, I'm trying to get the search engine

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.1.5/6/7 ZSQLMethods problem

like not being able to upgrade. Does anyone have a real fix for the ZSQLMethod problems in 2.1.6 that could be officially applied to the 2.1 series, or should I start using the 2.2 betas? May I second this! - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php

Re: [Zope] left(string, n) equivalent (newbie q.)

characters of. Hope this helps, But he is referring to a zsqlmethod, and you should be able to pass sql thru. Perhaps if he posts the zslqmethod.. Maybe it's an Access thing. - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and

Re: [Zope] zope as program

, but that's a work in progress already. It's a pity the mailing list software can't monitor the messages, and automatically re-post question messages that go unanswered. Questions could be flagged with a Q: header or whatever. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http

[Zope] PTK questions

rong url. Where can I patch that? I had a quick look thru the methods of the portal instance, and in the portal product, but couldn't find it. Also, I've deleted a couple of test members I created but they still show in the members listing. How can I reindex to remove them? -- R

Re: [Zope] How do you search Tiny Tables?

? There is a TinyTables+ product, but da***ed if I can find it thru the search mechanism on www.zope.com The new presentation of products also means that there is much more text to scroll thru. How about an option to present a product listing ordered by name, and case insensitive... - -- Regards, Graham Chiu

Re: [Zope] Zope/Interbase

driver for Win32/Linux is to be released in a few days. I don't know how you use ODBC from Linux though ... - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 iQA

Re: [Zope] mail host question

in 'registered_notify' If that still doesn't work, then change mailhost="MailHost" to smtphost="my.smtpserver.com" -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___

Re: [Zope] Beta Zope Error

in the security machinery. Anyone else see this? I got an authentication challenge on any page with sqlsession doing .getName() However, I found the NT exception more challenging, and have gone back to 2.1.4 -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered

[Zope] Zope/Interbase

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I saw the Interbase product on the website where Interbase is being used to store the Zope database. Does this mean that an Interbase DA also exists now for Linux? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz

Re: [Zope] mail host question

d if you get this going. I had the same error. You put the IP address for the SMTP server field. What goes in the 'local' field? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Vers

[Zope] closed Portal

authenticated outside the Portal. Is that correct? -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope

Re: [Zope] ANN: ZUBB 0.3.2 (Zope Ultimate Bulletin Board)

on screen, and then they post. I think in UBB you also have to log on to post, but you can read anonymously. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL

[Zope] Re: [ZCommerce] Secure storage of credit card info

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ng Pheng Siong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Take a look at ZSmime, http://www.post1.com/home/ngps/zope/zsmime Hi, Any ETA on the Win32 binaries? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http

Re: [Zope] Dynamically Picking which object to display

/auctions.php - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 iQA/AwUBOUC0crTRdIWzaLpMEQJJUgCg/zVzA+fisMQRtk1SJfaGv63q6sEAoKCk 8M1Tnvzx1vjNT0Nv2X7YrG0e =pKW1 -END PGP

[Zope] user contributions to Zope.org

indexed in a SQL table, and when a page is accessed, commentary is returned ordered by submission date. You may wish to allow only members rather visitors to make comments. Anything wrong with this scenario ( apart from comments not being Catalogued ) ? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu

Re: [Zope] user contributions to Zope.org

, then that would be better. New ideas are, of course, encouraged. I'll don my thinking cap! - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 iQA/AwUBOT

[Zope] Zope errors

the full url including the parameters of the queries that cause the problems? ( Interestingly most of the errors occur with DNS of the client browser based in the US whereas my target audience is home in New Zealand. ) - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http

Re: [Zope] PFH

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Heiko Stoermer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes snippo First spam in German I've come across :-( - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

Re: [Zope] ZHealth?

in Zope given the time. I've thought about doing this myself but not sure that I'm willing to give up the incremental searches that my current desktop application gives me. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

Re: [Zope] Using sql to search in zope

ype=string -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! *

Re: [Zope] Using sql to search in zope

In article 93F7843B0CACD311A5320090271F3C224D7938@redlion2, peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Where's the 'LIKE' ? It's Access. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

Re: [Zope] mailhost problem

iling Back Password Your password is Bdtml-var passwd/B. Thank you for shopping at sombody! /dtml-sendmail Your password has been mailed to dtml-var account. dtml-else blah blah blah /dtml-in Try removing all whitespace before the headers To: ,From: -- Regards, G

[Zope] Zope documentation

. The same report could then be run on the ancestors. This could serve as a documentation tool. -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Zope] What does it mean?

sting purposes as the data is stored in ram. So, if your table is going to grow, you might run out of memory :-( -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [

Re: [Zope] SQL query results as dtml values ?

and have the dtml-sqlvar type=blah use the values from the table ? Please, I just need a little help here. Thanks Richard dtml-in "sqlFirstMethod()" returning value1, value2 ... valueN dtml-call "sqlSecondMethod(arg1=value1, arg2=value2 ... )" /dtml-in -- R

[Zope] ZClass questions

) can be chosen" -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTM

[Zope] Zope.org down

Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon. Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking about doing ? -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

[Zope] ZClass - iterating over a propertysheet

How does one list the names/values of a property sheet from a Zclass's method? -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Zope] ZScheduler

://www.zope.org/Members/lstaffor/ZScheduler/ZSchedulerWiki/BugReports Loren, Since this bug referenced a reschedule operation, I didn't bother to apply the patch - should I? -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

Re: [Zope] newbie question: parameter passing for ZSQL Object

, field2, field3 field4 ) values ( dtml-sqlvar param1 type=int, dtml-sqlvar param2 type=int, dtml-sqlvar param3 type=int, dtml-sqlvar param4 type=int ) dtml-call "insertItem(param1=param1, param2=param2, param3=param3, param4 )" -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.

Re: [Zope] Help with simple dtml-if compare

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patrick J.M. Keane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes dtml-if "id == 'index_html'" dtml-if "_['id']=='index_html'" as discussed yesterday in this list! -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered b

Re: [Zope] E-Commerce solution using Python and Zope.

Ollerenshaw Photography site, put things into my shopping basket, and managed to lose those items by stepping back a few pages :-( -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

Re: [Zope] ZScheduler

ar I need to install this patch and try again. I'm using 2.1.4. - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 iQA/AwUBOS4xebTRdIWzaLpMEQIPWwCg5uZpGCphTW2S

Re: [Zope] SQLSession and Memory leak

Gadfly for a navigational tool. And since I have to reboot once every few weeks, I wasn't too concerned about it. Will you be releasing your Session management as a product? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

). It's a great language for writing internet robots ( grabbing content off remote pages or ftp sites, retrieving mail, sending mail, scheduling jobs ) inter alia. Would fill a lot of the gaps that Zope has. - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php

[Zope] sequence-*

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Many of these variables cause problems for those starting out with Zope. Why not create alternate names such as sequence_* and degrade the former? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered

[Zope] Running multiple instances of Zope with SSL

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm thinking of doing this ( on an NT box ), and was wondering what the easiest way to do this was ... Roxen? Apache? NT Server? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase

Re: [Zope] Passing multi-line field into SQL

are you using? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 iQA/AwUBOSphfrTRdIWzaLpMEQKc9ACg2/2B5q8Wtq0I8g6mgtbUGrWYMOIAoOp/ F4I2em/FF62qjkwoP/Ud/xG1 =2ttC

Re: [Zope] FTP

is the IP address of your Zope installation. In advanced tab, change the port setting from 21 to 8021. Put your superuser id and password in the connection tab, and you should be in. - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase

Re: [Zope] creating a generic field gadget

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Graham Chiu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes To help me with the tedious business of creating forms, I would like to make a generic field gadget. I thus have a dtml-document which has a number of attributes: Eg: fieldname

Re: [Zope] creating a generic field gadget

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] , R. David Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Here's a clue grin: dtml-if "_.has_key(fieldname)" value="dtml-var "_[fieldname]"" dtml-else Worked straight away. Thank

Re: [Zope] SQLSession users - who's using what DB?

was changed? The default schema uses names that conflict with some databases' keywords. Good idea! - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 iQA

[Zope] how do you iterate over tiny tables?

ng. Clues? - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 iQA/AwUBOShmmLTRdIWzaLpMEQK1bgCfZzGV36/mDJUv0cMs+l0aLXIx2eMAoKwF fFOcpW6t4quJ2qisBnvYU/n4 =hdRX -END PGP

Re: [Zope] Zope.org membership

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], mindlace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Graham Chiu wrote: Can it be changed so that it remembers both my userid and password, or just my password? I usually remember who I am! This is certainly true. Unfortunately

Re: [Zope] Zope.org membership

, and if they both match with what I have saved server side, then I display the userid and password which has also been stored server side. Obviously this is also vulnerable :-( - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Powered by Interbase and Zope

Re: [Zope] FYI: Some changes on Zope.org

for releasing it. --Paul Just wondering if Zope.org is an appropriate site for alpha testing software when it should be show casing Zope technology. One gets a bad impression when visiting the site of a web server company to find the web server down :-( - -- Regards, Graham Chiu

Re: [Zope] FYI: Some changes on Zope.org

is a great idea and we should have it no other way. At least they are not Hotmail (owned by MS) and running on FreeBSD! I believe that that remains a constant source of embarrassment to MS. - -- Regards, Graham Chiu gchiuatcompkarori.co.nz http://www.compkarori.co.nz/index.php Power