Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Future of ZClasses

2006-10-04 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
more stable is the Java API, in Point 2 and 3 of this entry: http://www.z3lab.org/sections/blogs/jean-marc-orliaguet/2006_09_23_times-they-changin But it is not fair to compare the stability of a programming language standard modules API with a application framework api. But maybe I am not good

Re: [Zope-Checkins] Re: [Checkins] SVN: Products.Five/trunk/ Now you can use the old registry with the new API for registerig components.

2006-07-29 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Florent Guillaume wrote: Indeed :) On 29 Jul 2006, at 00:39, Benji York wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: On 27 Jul 2006, at 16:15, Lennart Regebro wrote: Modified: Products.Five/trunk/site/localsite.py === ---

Re: [Zope] Re: database conflict errors

2006-06-29 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan wrote: - Original Message - From: Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan wrote: During recent load testing of a new application 3.1% to 7.6% of all http requests resulted in conflict errors (3.1%

[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Products.Five/branches/philikon-local-components/ - fixed import errors

2006-06-21 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Log message for revision 67141: - fixed import errors Changed: U Products.Five/branches/philikon-local-components/fiveconfigure.py U Products.Five/branches/philikon-local-components/meta.zcml -=- Modified: Products.Five/branches/philikon-local-components/fiveconfigure.py

Re: [Zope] Re: filter messages at startup

2006-06-13 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Florent Guillaume wrote: thomas desvenain wrote: i mean i would like to filter warning/error messages that appears in console when starting zope server or debugger in order to ignore those i'm not interested with for the moment for instance : [EMAIL PROTECTED] tests]# /zope/test/bin/zopectl

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Two visions

2006-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: [snip] I think that having one name for two radically different, though related, things is very confusing. There are really 2 main technologies that people care about: 1. The Zope app server. This is characterized by things like

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Two visions

2006-02-28 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Martijn Faassen wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: [snip] I would vote for spelling out Zed (which would also be a little easier to google but might create trademark problems). The namespace package could either be 'z' or 'zed'. Then again, I really should take Jim's side and stay out

[Zope-dev] traversable methods / docstrings.

2006-01-30 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Hi! I didn't know that methods needed to have docstrings to be traversable (it took me some time to find out why I was getting Not found errors on some of a tool's methods). Is there any reason to still have such a feature in Zope2.9? or at least maybe there could be a hint in the trace

Re: [Zope-dev] traversable methods / docstrings.

2006-01-30 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Paul Winkler wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:34:17AM +0100, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Hi! I didn't know that methods needed to have docstrings to be traversable (it took me some time to find out why I was getting Not found errors on some of a tool's methods). Is there any reason

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: traversable methods / docstrings.

2006-01-30 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: I didn't know that methods needed to have docstrings to be traversable (it took me some time to find out why I was getting Not found errors on some of a tool's methods). Is there any reason

Re: [Zope] Leave the ivory tower now!

2006-01-08 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Greg Fischer wrote: Yes, we need hype! And a hot looking site, WITH Web 2.0 features. Many of these frameworks are providing AJAX capabilities, simple graphics and data/object access without page reloads. (like I am using with Dojo right now) What does Zope not provide these features

Re: [Zope] Re: Java vs Zope

2006-01-06 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Here is a document that explains why scripting languages are better than system programming languages (like C, C++, Java) for creating large scale applications, for gluing components together, thanks to weak typing: http://home.pacbell.net/ouster/scripting.html this too might be

Re: [Zope] Javascript obfuscator and Zope

2006-01-04 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Peter Bengtsson wrote: It's not a Zope product but at least it's python. http://www.issuetrackerproduct.com/Download#slimmer It's basically a javascript whitespace optimiser Compare http://real.issuetrackerproduct.com/tw-sack.js with the original: http://www.issuetrackerproduct.com/tw-sack.js

Re: [Zope] Human validation in zope/python

2005-12-07 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Robert Boyd wrote: On 12/7/05, Ed Colmar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey All I'm wondering if anyone has a module that will generate the randomized images that are so common these days in registration forms to verify that the user is a human. Or, alternativly, other strategies to block

[Zope-dev] Re: ConflictError's worthwhile to note?

2005-12-06 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Dieter Maurer wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote at 2005-12-4 22:28 +0100: ... In the log flle I'd like to be informed about events that are unexpected. Conflict errors of this kind occur by design. This argument is not convincing: In a similar way, I could argue that MemoryErrors

Re: [Zope] Re: Python Classes and Zope.

2005-12-06 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: Paul Winkler wrote: On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 04:12:01PM +0100, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: does zope2 do an access control based on acquisition for public methods, that would be a waste of resources since the answer is always yes, granted

Re: [Zope] Re: Python Classes and Zope.

2005-12-06 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: Paul Winkler wrote: On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 04:12:01PM +0100, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: does zope2 do an access control based on acquisition for public methods, that would be a waste of resources since the answer is always yes, granted

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-04 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Dieter Maurer wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote at 2005-12-2 23:57 +0100: ... on what level to report retried ConflictError ... BLATHER (I have never be able to get any meaningful information from them, except that zope tries several times) That's because the generated messages *were

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-02 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Florent Guillaume wrote: Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried conflict errors. These are the ConflictErrors that aren't returned to the user but automatically retried by the Zope publisher. 1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level: - INFO -

Re: [Zope] Python Classes and Zope.

2005-12-02 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Paul Winkler wrote: On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 09:04:11PM +0100, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: You need to call InitializeClass on your object, and that's it. cf http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za/courses/zope/ch04.html under Zopifying our Python classes initializeClass() only helps

Re: [Zope] Python Classes and Zope.

2005-12-01 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 1. Dezember 2005 13:46:55 -0200 Fernando Lujan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a way to use a Python class inside zope? For instance, if I create the class: class MyClass: A simple example class i = 12345 def f(self):

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 in the source code repository

2005-11-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Martijn Faassen wrote: ... Outside the Zope community Zope 3 doesn't have such a great image indeed. It's either ignored, or it's actively rejected. There is a lot of competition with other frameworks. Zope 3 is currently not doing particularly well in this competition, something we need to

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Reunite Zope 2 and Zope 3 in the source code repository

2005-11-24 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Martijn Faassen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: [snip] It is a bit like this: the zope2 community wants the zope3 technology and zope3 wants the zope2 community. I like this analysis. :) I think the question about the technology should be treated as such on a technical level

Re: [Zope] passing the parameters to zsql method

2005-10-27 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: Denis V. Gudtsov wrote: DLK use an intermediary Script (Python), ie: [..skipped..] Thank you. But, can i do this without using python? From zpt - to zsql? Just curious too: isn't

Re: [Zope] JSON for Ajax applications

2005-09-23 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Max M wrote: I don't know how many has seen this, but it's pretty cool. JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) is a lightweight data-interchange format. http://www.crockford.com/JSON/index.html It is used for Ajax applications to transfer data instead of xml. It uses repr() versions of

Re: [Zope] Re: CPSSkins perfs

2005-09-23 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
N.Davis wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Hi! I usually don't read the posts on zope-list, but I found this one: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2005-September/161330.html sorry this is a bit old, but ... M. Davis, what are your benchmark figures based on? I just ran a quick

[Zope] CPSSkins perfs

2005-09-21 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Hi! I usually don't read the posts on zope-list, but I found this one: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2005-September/161330.html sorry this is a bit old, but ... M. Davis, what are your benchmark figures based on? I just ran a quick benchmark on Plone's front page and found: siege -v

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-18 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: kit blake wrote: Wow, what a difference two days makes. I heard about the ZF announcement by telephone two mornings ago, and I breathed a huge sigh of relief. It solves a problem we've been worrying about for years. It means we can sit across from a nervous

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting Chalmers to be one of the key players in the foundation which would make the foundation even more vendor-neutral. I am confident that this will go through

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: This is really great news! I am going to start working at getting Chalmers to be one of the key players in the foundation which would make the foundation even more

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-17 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Chris McDonough wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 07:52 -0400, Stephan Richter wrote: Also, I agree with Andreas and Philipp that developers should be members, not companies. Otherwise, how could I, as an independent developer, have a say? BTW, this is also positive for companies, since they can

[Zope-dev] Re: [Z3lab] Nuxeo supports Zope Corp announces

2005-06-16 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Eric Barroca wrote: Hello, Following the announces from Zope Corporation yesterday about their willingness to create a Zope Foundation (that would manage independently Zope 2 and Zope 3 projects) and to participate actively in the Z3ECM project, I would like to express briefly Nuxeo's

[Zope-dev] zpt code crashes zope 2.7.3

2004-12-09 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Hi! the following zpt snippet crashes zope 2.7.3 on Linux (the python process hangs). tal:block define= items python: {u'\xc4': ''}; key python: u'\xc4' content=items/?key / can someone confirm that the bug is present in zope 2.7.4-b1 too before I do a bug report? regards /JM

Re: [Zope-dev] zpt code crashes zope 2.7.3

2004-12-09 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Hi! the following zpt snippet crashes zope 2.7.3 on Linux (the python process hangs). tal:block define= items python: {u'\xc4': ''}; key python: u'\xc4' content=items/?key / can someone confirm that the bug is present in zope 2.7.4-b1 too before I do a bug report

Re: [Zope-dev] zpt code crashes zope 2.7.3

2004-12-09 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Andreas Jung wrote: --On Donnerstag, 9. Dezember 2004 13:12 Uhr +0100 Jean-Marc Orliaguet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: Hi! the following zpt snippet crashes zope 2.7.3 on Linux (the python process hangs). tal:block define= items python: {u'\xc4': ''}; key python: u'\xc4