Re: [Zope] Zope 4 migration

2019-12-13 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

Hello Michael,

thanks. I'll install Products.TemporaryFolder to avoid the warnings but will 
replace /temp_folder with a normal folder as recommended by the maintainers
of the Sessions product. Now let's see how the more complicated setups cope
with Zope 4 - LOL.

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 07:46:29AM +0100, Michael Howitz wrote:
> Am 12.12.2019 um 10:22 schrieb Michael Brunnbauer :
> [???]
> > Thank you very much for your help. I have some reservations about installing
> > Products.TemporaryFolder.
> 
> You seem only to need ZODBMountPoint. But maybe you do not use server side 
> sessions so you can live without TemporaryFolder which needs ZODBMountPoint 
> to mount the temporary folder.
> There is https://github.com/zopefoundation/Products.TemporaryFolder/issues/12 
> to extract ZODBMountPoint into its own package. Feel free to comment there if 
> you actually need ZODBMountPoint without TemporaryFolder.
> 
> > See here:
> > 
> > https://pypi.org/project/Products.Sessions/
> > 
> > "The default session support under Zope 2 relied on Products.TemporaryFolder
> >  for storing session data, which in turn used the tempstorage package.
> >  tempstorage is no longer recommended because it has unfixed and possibly
> >  unfixable issues under Zope 4 that lead to corrupted temporary storages.???
> 
> This is only the case when using tempstorage, a RAM based storage 
> implementation.
> You could also configure an additional ZODB for the server side session data 
> and mount it instead of using Products.TemporaryFolder.
> This makes server side sessions persistent between restarts.
> 
> > Also, for me this means installing 8 Products after installing Zope with 
> > pip:
> > Sessions, ExternalMethod, PythonScripts, ZSQLMethods, ZMySQLDA, MailHost,
> > TemporaryFolder, SiteErrorLog.
> 
> That???s right, some Products were part of Zope2 or install dependencies.
> Zope 4 is a but more lightweight. So you have to install the Products you 
> need.
> 
> > Would the standard zc.buildout install already contain some of those?
> 
> No, you have to add them to buildout.cfg.
> 
> > I somehow got attached to the pip way over the years but maybe I should
> > really switch.
> 
> If you know how to use pip: It???s okay to use it.
> I personally find Buildout more convenient.
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Re: [Zope] Zope 4 migration

2019-12-12 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

Hello Michael,

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 07:42:21AM +0100, Michael Howitz wrote:
> This means you have to install some packages (how to do this depends on your 
> installation variant.)
> 
> ZODBMountPoint.MountedObject lives in the package Products.TemporaryFolder.
> The SiteErrorLog lives in Products.SiteErrorLog.

Thank you very much for your help. I have some reservations about installing
Products.TemporaryFolder. See here:

 https://pypi.org/project/Products.Sessions/

 "The default session support under Zope 2 relied on Products.TemporaryFolder
  for storing session data, which in turn used the tempstorage package. 
  tempstorage is no longer recommended because it has unfixed and possibly 
  unfixable issues under Zope 4 that lead to corrupted temporary storages."

Also, for me this means installing 8 Products after installing Zope with pip:
Sessions, ExternalMethod, PythonScripts, ZSQLMethods, ZMySQLDA, MailHost,
TemporaryFolder, SiteErrorLog.

Would the standard zc.buildout install already contain some of those?
I somehow got attached to the pip way over the years but maybe I should
really switch.

> The documentation says to use virtualenv instead of venv on Python 2.7, see
> https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/4.x/INSTALL.html#built-in-standard-buildout-configuration

Can't remember seeing that note yesterday :-) In any case - thanks!

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

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Re: [Zope] Zope 4 migration

2019-12-11 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

Hello Jürgen,

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:47:13PM +, Jürgen Gmach wrote:
> So, how did you start Zope?

../4.1.3/bin/runwsgi -v etc/zope.ini

(my instance home is outside the virtual environment I installed Zope in)

I suppose I can send a signal to runwsgi to shut it down properly but which one?

> As an advice - this list ist extremely low traffic, and I do not know how 
> many Zope developers still read it.

OK. What's the scope of this list? Am I also off topic?

> There are two places where you usually get answers

I'll try it there for further questions.

> or concerning your other question about zodbupdate at 
> https://github.com/zopefoundation/zodbupdate

I did not mention zodbupdate, only zodbverify. Should I use zodbupdate
even in the step from Zope 2 to 4 with Python 2?

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Re: [Zope] Zope 4 migration

2019-12-11 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

u disregard that one - the ZMI is at /manage of course :-)

It works but zodbverify seems to complain about more than it should:

 Found 4 records that could not be loaded.
 Exceptions and how often they happened:
 ImportError: No module named ZODBMountPoint.MountedObject: 1
 ImportError: No module named SiteErrorLog.SiteErrorLog: 2
 ImportError: No module named Product: 1

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 01:18:20PM +0100, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> 
> hi all,
> 
> I made a first test with Zope 4 under Python 2 and my old ZODB. I followed
> the instruction to delete all objects in the Products folder and pack the ZODB
> with Zope 2:
> 
>  
> https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/latest/migrations/zope4/zodb.html#delete-zodb-objects-that-no-longer-exist-under-zope-4
> 
> Then I shut down the old Zope and copied the Data.fs* files to Zope 4. 
> Now on calling http://hostname:8080 in my browser (the ZMI), I get:
> 
>  Error Type: KeyError
>  Error Value: zope_quick_start
> 
> Am I missing something here? My old Zope is still 2.13.27 and not 2.13.29 but
> I can't find anything in the Changelog hinting that this could be relevant.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael Brunnbauer
> 
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:42:04PM +0100, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> > 
> > hi all,
> > 
> > Python 2 is nearing end of life and the next weeks will be a horrible time
> > of migration and swearing for me. I will simply abandon many old 
> > projects and websites but there is still a lot to do.
> > 
> > I have started looking into Zope 4. The recommended way to install it is to
> > use zc.buildout:
> > 
> >  python3.7 -m venv .
> >  bin/pip install -U pip zc.buildout
> >  bin/buildout
> > 
> > Python 2 does not have a venv module and the recommended way to migrate is 
> > to
> > first migrate to Zope 4 with Python 2. Does the buildout thing work with
> > Python 2?
> > 
> > I managed to install Zope 4 using pip and get an instance running with
> > runwsgi. Now I am wondering how to stop it? How am I supposed to stop a
> > running instance? There seems to be no command and no option in the GUI.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
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Re: [Zope] Zope 4 migration

2019-12-11 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

I made a first test with Zope 4 under Python 2 and my old ZODB. I followed
the instruction to delete all objects in the Products folder and pack the ZODB
with Zope 2:

 
https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/latest/migrations/zope4/zodb.html#delete-zodb-objects-that-no-longer-exist-under-zope-4

Then I shut down the old Zope and copied the Data.fs* files to Zope 4. 
Now on calling http://hostname:8080 in my browser (the ZMI), I get:

 Error Type: KeyError
 Error Value: zope_quick_start

Am I missing something here? My old Zope is still 2.13.27 and not 2.13.29 but
I can't find anything in the Changelog hinting that this could be relevant.

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:42:04PM +0100, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> 
> hi all,
> 
> Python 2 is nearing end of life and the next weeks will be a horrible time
> of migration and swearing for me. I will simply abandon many old 
> projects and websites but there is still a lot to do.
> 
> I have started looking into Zope 4. The recommended way to install it is to
> use zc.buildout:
> 
>  python3.7 -m venv .
>  bin/pip install -U pip zc.buildout
>  bin/buildout
> 
> Python 2 does not have a venv module and the recommended way to migrate is to
> first migrate to Zope 4 with Python 2. Does the buildout thing work with
> Python 2?
> 
> I managed to install Zope 4 using pip and get an instance running with
> runwsgi. Now I am wondering how to stop it? How am I supposed to stop a
> running instance? There seems to be no command and no option in the GUI.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael Brunnbauer
> 
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[Zope] Zope 4 migration

2019-12-11 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

Python 2 is nearing end of life and the next weeks will be a horrible time
of migration and swearing for me. I will simply abandon many old 
projects and websites but there is still a lot to do.

I have started looking into Zope 4. The recommended way to install it is to
use zc.buildout:

 python3.7 -m venv .
 bin/pip install -U pip zc.buildout
 bin/buildout

Python 2 does not have a venv module and the recommended way to migrate is to
first migrate to Zope 4 with Python 2. Does the buildout thing work with
Python 2?

I managed to install Zope 4 using pip and get an instance running with
runwsgi. Now I am wondering how to stop it? How am I supposed to stop a
running instance? There seems to be no command and no option in the GUI.

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

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Re: [Zope] Upgrading from 2.6.0

2018-08-08 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi

I ended up manually creating every object with copy+paste in a fresh
instance of Zope 2.13.x. It took me several hours of work but was probably
the fastest solution at this point...

Regards,

Michael Brunnnbauer

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 09:47:37AM +0200, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> 
> hi all,
> 
> I can try some different approaches (e.g. pip instead of easy_install)
> and some different versions but I need to know where the cutoff point for
> supporting the 2.6.0 format is.
> 
> https://pypi.org/project/Zope2/2.13.0/ says "You can no longer directly 
> upgrade a Zope 2.7 or earlier database to Zope 2.13" so I figured something
> below 2.13 would do it. Is this correct?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael Brunnbauer
> 
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 02:49:07PM +0200, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> > 
> > hi all,
> > 
> > I was still running a 2.6.0-instance of Zope without upgrading it because
> > it was not publicly accessible. Big mistake! After upgrading from MySQL 5.5
> > to 5.6 the authentication protocol used by MySQL-python-0.9.0 is no longer
> > supported. The oldest version supporting the new protocol seems to be
> > MySQL-python-1.1.8 but Zope 2.6.0 comes with a precompiled Python 2.1.3
> > and MySQL-python-1.1.8 needs at least Python 2.3.
> > 
> > Now using the ZODB with Zope 2.13 does not work. I was hoping that 2.12.28
> > would work but
> > 
> >  virtualenv --no-site-packages 2.12.28
> >  cd 2.12.28
> >  ./bin/easy_install -i http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.12.28 Zope2
> > 
> > will get me this:
> > 
> >  error: ClientForm 0.2.10 is installed but ClientForm==dev,>=0.2.6 is 
> > required by set(['mechanize'])
> > 
> > Any idea on how to best migrate to a recent version? Export/Import also was
> > not made for that job...
> > 
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> > 
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Re: [Zope] Upgrading from 2.6.0

2018-08-06 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi

WTF? A 403 instead of a redirect? Why is breaking old stuff in the name
of security/progress considered OK?

./bin/easy_install -i https://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.12.0 Zope2
Searching for Zope2
Reading https://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.12.0/Zope2/
Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/Z/Zope2/Zope2-2.12.0.tar.gz
error: Can't download 
http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/Z/Zope2/Zope2-2.12.0.tar.gz: 403 SSL is 
required

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

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> 
> hi all,
> 
> I can try some different approaches (e.g. pip instead of easy_install)
> and some different versions but I need to know where the cutoff point for
> supporting the 2.6.0 format is.
> 
> https://pypi.org/project/Zope2/2.13.0/ says "You can no longer directly 
> upgrade a Zope 2.7 or earlier database to Zope 2.13" so I figured something
> below 2.13 would do it. Is this correct?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael Brunnbauer
> 
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 02:49:07PM +0200, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> > 
> > hi all,
> > 
> > I was still running a 2.6.0-instance of Zope without upgrading it because
> > it was not publicly accessible. Big mistake! After upgrading from MySQL 5.5
> > to 5.6 the authentication protocol used by MySQL-python-0.9.0 is no longer
> > supported. The oldest version supporting the new protocol seems to be
> > MySQL-python-1.1.8 but Zope 2.6.0 comes with a precompiled Python 2.1.3
> > and MySQL-python-1.1.8 needs at least Python 2.3.
> > 
> > Now using the ZODB with Zope 2.13 does not work. I was hoping that 2.12.28
> > would work but
> > 
> >  virtualenv --no-site-packages 2.12.28
> >  cd 2.12.28
> >  ./bin/easy_install -i http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.12.28 Zope2
> > 
> > will get me this:
> > 
> >  error: ClientForm 0.2.10 is installed but ClientForm==dev,>=0.2.6 is 
> > required by set(['mechanize'])
> > 
> > Any idea on how to best migrate to a recent version? Export/Import also was
> > not made for that job...
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Michael Brunnbauer
> > 
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Re: [Zope] Upgrading from 2.6.0

2018-07-31 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

I can try some different approaches (e.g. pip instead of easy_install)
and some different versions but I need to know where the cutoff point for
supporting the 2.6.0 format is.

https://pypi.org/project/Zope2/2.13.0/ says "You can no longer directly 
upgrade a Zope 2.7 or earlier database to Zope 2.13" so I figured something
below 2.13 would do it. Is this correct?

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 02:49:07PM +0200, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> 
> hi all,
> 
> I was still running a 2.6.0-instance of Zope without upgrading it because
> it was not publicly accessible. Big mistake! After upgrading from MySQL 5.5
> to 5.6 the authentication protocol used by MySQL-python-0.9.0 is no longer
> supported. The oldest version supporting the new protocol seems to be
> MySQL-python-1.1.8 but Zope 2.6.0 comes with a precompiled Python 2.1.3
> and MySQL-python-1.1.8 needs at least Python 2.3.
> 
> Now using the ZODB with Zope 2.13 does not work. I was hoping that 2.12.28
> would work but
> 
>  virtualenv --no-site-packages 2.12.28
>  cd 2.12.28
>  ./bin/easy_install -i http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.12.28 Zope2
> 
> will get me this:
> 
>  error: ClientForm 0.2.10 is installed but ClientForm==dev,>=0.2.6 is 
> required by set(['mechanize'])
> 
> Any idea on how to best migrate to a recent version? Export/Import also was
> not made for that job...
> 
> Regards,
> 
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[Zope] Upgrading from 2.6.0

2018-07-30 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

I was still running a 2.6.0-instance of Zope without upgrading it because
it was not publicly accessible. Big mistake! After upgrading from MySQL 5.5
to 5.6 the authentication protocol used by MySQL-python-0.9.0 is no longer
supported. The oldest version supporting the new protocol seems to be
MySQL-python-1.1.8 but Zope 2.6.0 comes with a precompiled Python 2.1.3
and MySQL-python-1.1.8 needs at least Python 2.3.

Now using the ZODB with Zope 2.13 does not work. I was hoping that 2.12.28
would work but

 virtualenv --no-site-packages 2.12.28
 cd 2.12.28
 ./bin/easy_install -i http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.12.28 Zope2

will get me this:

 error: ClientForm 0.2.10 is installed but ClientForm==dev,>=0.2.6 is required 
by set(['mechanize'])

Any idea on how to best migrate to a recent version? Export/Import also was
not made for that job...

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

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Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Annoucement: Zope2 2.13.27 released

2018-01-31 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

Hello Michael,

I installed virtualenv 15.1.0 manually and tried again with the --no-binary
option. Works fine - no need to install setuptools_scm manually. But total
loss of control and understanding occurs again when I try to install
Products.ZSQLMethods with "./bin/pip install Products.ZSQLMethods":

...
  Found existing installation: Zope2 2.13.27
Uninstalling Zope2-2.13.27:
  Successfully uninstalled Zope2-2.13.27
Successfully installed AccessControl-4.0b3 AuthEncoding-4.0.0 BTrees-4.4.1 
Chameleon-3.2 ExtensionClass-4.3.0 Persistence-3.0b2 Products.ZSQLMethods-3.0.1 
Record-3.4 RestrictedPython-4.0b2 ZODB-5.3.0 Zope-4.0b3 Zope2-4.0b1 
ipaddress-1.0.19 persistent-4.2.4.2 waitress-1.1.0 z3c.pt-3.1.0 
zodbpickle-0.7.0 zope.browserpage-4.2.0 zope.browserresource-4.2.1 
zope.globalrequest-1.4 zope.pagetemplate-4.3.0

This cannot be intended - can it? Did I make a mistake?

cu,
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Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Annoucement: Zope2 2.13.27 released

2018-01-31 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

Hello Michael,

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 09:39:53AM +0100, Michael Howitz wrote:
> These versions are really old. You could try to omit `--no-binary 
> zc.recipe.egg` from the command line shown above and see if this is 
> successful. (`--no-binary zc.recipe.egg` is needed because otherwise modern 
> pip versions think that zc.recipe.egg is an egg and not the name of a 
> package. I don???t know what older pip versions without support for wheels do 
> in this case.)

Works for a while but then at some point setuptools_scm cannot be installed
automatically. If I download and install it manually in the virtualenv subdir 
before starting pip, the install for Zope2 seems to finish.

Same problem later with "./bin/pip install Products.ZSQLMethods":

 No local packages or download links found for pytest-runner

> This would be the first step I???d suggest: update the used virtualenv 
> package and create a new virtualenv to install Zope there.

virtualenv was installed with easy_install and easy_install says "Best match:
virtualenv 1.9.1", which is the current version. So what would be the best 
way to update virtualenv?

> Distribute is dead nowadays all its changes have been merged back into 
> setuptools. It is no longer needed/suggested to use distribute.

Yeah I get that.

> > -Switch to setuptools (probably the recommended way which would break most
> > things? :-))
> 
> I don???t understand what you want to switch to setuptools.

My system. Because setuptools is not installed. If I install it while other
stuff was installed with Distribute, what is the probability that anything 
inside or outside my virtual environments will break? That's the question I'm 
asking myself.

cu,
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Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Annoucement: Zope2 2.13.27 released

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

What is the minimum Version of pip required to install 2.13.27?

cu,
brunni

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:31:14AM +0100, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
> 
> hi
> 
> I used to install with
> 
>  ./bin/easy_install --index-url=http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.xx/ 
> Zope2
> 
> but I remember a conversation here that this is deprecated and support will
> be dropped at any time. No idea wether that time has arrived but the 2.13.27
> directory is not populated yet.
> 
> So the correct method to install with virtualenv is the one described here?
>  
>  https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/2.13/INSTALL-virtualenv.html
> 
> ./bin/pip install \
>  --no-binary zc.recipe.egg \
>  -r https://zopefoundation.github.io/Zope/releases/2.13.27/requirements.txt
> 
> pip says "no such option: --no-binary" but I am still using
> distribute-0.6.45 and virtualenv-1.9.1 (the virtualenv pip seems to be 1.3.1
> shipped with virtualenv). I have many options now and not a clue which one 
> will work and what would break then:
> 
> -Update virtualenv
> -Update distribute and virtualenv
> -Install pip
> -Switch to setuptools (probably the recommended way which would break most
>  things? :-))
> 
> cu,
> brunni
> 
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 03:56:19PM +0100, Michael Howitz wrote:
> > On behalf of Zope developer community I am pleased to announce the
> > release of Zope2 2.13.27.
> > 
> > You can download it via PyPI: https://pypi.org/project/Zope2/2.13.27
> > 
> > For more information on what is new resp. fixed in this release, see the
> > change log: https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/2.13/CHANGES.html#id1
> > 
> > --
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> > Michael Howitz
> > 
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Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Annoucement: Zope2 2.13.27 released

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi

I used to install with

 ./bin/easy_install --index-url=http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.xx/ 
Zope2

but I remember a conversation here that this is deprecated and support will
be dropped at any time. No idea wether that time has arrived but the 2.13.27
directory is not populated yet.

So the correct method to install with virtualenv is the one described here?
 
 https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/2.13/INSTALL-virtualenv.html

./bin/pip install \
 --no-binary zc.recipe.egg \
 -r https://zopefoundation.github.io/Zope/releases/2.13.27/requirements.txt

pip says "no such option: --no-binary" but I am still using
distribute-0.6.45 and virtualenv-1.9.1 (the virtualenv pip seems to be 1.3.1
shipped with virtualenv). I have many options now and not a clue which one 
will work and what would break then:

-Update virtualenv
-Update distribute and virtualenv
-Install pip
-Switch to setuptools (probably the recommended way which would break most
 things? :-))

cu,
brunni

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 03:56:19PM +0100, Michael Howitz wrote:
> On behalf of Zope developer community I am pleased to announce the
> release of Zope2 2.13.27.
> 
> You can download it via PyPI: https://pypi.org/project/Zope2/2.13.27
> 
> For more information on what is new resp. fixed in this release, see the
> change log: https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/2.13/CHANGES.html#id1
> 
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Re: [Zope] How to install Zope 2.13.26 using virtualenv?

2017-08-21 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi

using easy_install instead of pip worked for me:

 ./bin/easy_install --index-url=http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.26/ 
Zope2

Regards,

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> <https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/2.13/INSTALL-virtualenv.html>:
> 
> """
> (virtualenv)# bin/pip install \
> >  --trusted-host download.zope.org \
> >  --index http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.26/ Zope2
> Collecting Zope2
>   Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement Zope2 (from
> versions: )
> No matching distribution found for Zope2
> """
> 
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Re: [Zope] Installing Zope 2.13.25

2017-02-13 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

Hello Michael,

On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 08:12:46AM +0100, Michael Howitz wrote:
> > I miss the Zope2 subdirectory at 
> > http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.25/
> > Can someone help?
> Maybe you should file a ticket at 
> https://github.com/zopefoundation/Zope/issues.

No reaction there too:

 https://github.com/zopefoundation/Zope/issues/101

F-Secure is right saying that Zope2 has reached EOL:

 
https://community.plone.org/t/zope-2-13-24-falsely-considered-end-of-life-by-f-secure/2748

This should finally be admitted by the responsible persons so we can move on 
to something else.

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Re: [Zope] Installing Zope 2.13.25

2017-02-07 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

I miss the Zope2 subdirectory at http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.25/
Can someone help?

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

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> hi all,
> 
> I see that 2.13.25 has been released but the Zope2 subdirectory is missing
> again. Can someone populate it? This command fails:
> 
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> Zope2
> 
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[Zope] Installing Zope 2.13.25

2017-02-02 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

I see that 2.13.25 has been released but the Zope2 subdirectory is missing
again. Can someone populate it? This command fails:

./bin/easy_install --index-url=http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.25/ 
Zope2

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Re: [Zope] Zope 2 Status

2016-11-02 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

Hello Johannes,

On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 01:03:09AM -0500, Johannes Raggam wrote:
> Still, the 2.13 branch is still being used and security-patched.

Great! What is the URL I watch for updates - the home of the 2.13 branch?

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[Zope] Zope 2 Status

2016-10-04 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

I used to watch https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Zope2/ for Zope 2 updates. Last
version I updated to was 2.13.24.

Now this page offers version 4.0a2 - the a indicating alpha status - but 

 https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/2.13/CHANGES.html

announces an unreleased version 2.13.25. What does this mean?

Does Zope 2 still receive security updates? How can I stay informed?

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Re: [Zope] Zope2 2.13.24

2016-03-14 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

can somebody help me? I used to install Zope2 with 

 ./bin/easy_install --index-url=http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.23/ 
Zope2

and the other ways to install it never seemed to work. I can pay for support
or to get things done.

cu,
brunni

On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 01:16:38PM +0100, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
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> hi all,
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> I see that Zope2 2.13.24 was released yesterday. Can somebody put the release
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[Zope] Zope2 2.13.24

2016-03-01 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

I see that Zope2 2.13.24 was released yesterday. Can somebody put the release
at http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.24/ ?

thnx!

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[Zope] Zope 2.13.23 installation

2015-07-01 Thread Michael Brunnbauer

hi all,

Tres Seaver wrote:
On behalf of the Zope Foundation and its members, I'm pleased to
announce the 2.13.23 release of the Zope2 package:

Great!

/path/to/venv/bin/pip install \
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zopefoundation/Zope/2.13.23/requirements.txt

raboso:/home/zope/2.13.23$ ./bin/pip install 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zopefoundation/Zope/2.13.23/requirements.txt
Downloading/unpacking 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/zopefoundation/Zope/2.13.23/requirements.txt
  Downloading requirements.txt
  Cannot unpack file /tmp/pip-9UQkA6-unpack/requirements.txt (downloaded from 
/tmp/pip-GQuiZE-build, content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8); cannot detect 
archive format
Cannot determine archive format of /tmp/pip-GQuiZE-build
Storing complete log in /home/zope/./.pip/pip.log

---

raboso:/home/zope/2.13.23$ ./bin/pip install 
--index-url=http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.23/ Zope2
Downloading/unpacking Zope2
  Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement Zope2
No distributions at all found for Zope2
Storing complete log in /home/zope/./.pip/pip.log

---

raboso:/home/zope/2.13.23$ ./bin/easy_install -i 
http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.23 Zope2
Searching for Zope2
Reading http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.23/Zope2/
Couldn't find index page for 'Zope2' (maybe misspelled?)
Scanning index of all packages (this may take a while)
Reading http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index/2.13.23/
No local packages or download links found for Zope2
Best match: None
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./bin/easy_install, line 8, in module
load_entry_point('setuptools==0.6c11', 'console_scripts', 'easy_install')()
  File 
/home/zope/2.13.23/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py,
 line 1712, in main
  File 
/home/zope/2.13.23/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py,
 line 1700, in with_ei_usage
  File 
/home/zope/2.13.23/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py,
 line 1716, in lambda
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/core.py, line 151, in setup
dist.run_commands()
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py, line 953, in run_commands
self.run_command(cmd)
  File /usr/lib/python2.7/distutils/dist.py, line 972, in run_command
cmd_obj.run()
  File 
/home/zope/2.13.23/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py,
 line 211, in run
  File 
/home/zope/2.13.23/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py,
 line 434, in easy_install
  File 
/home/zope/2.13.23/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/setuptools/package_index.py,
 line 475, in fetch_distribution
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'clone'

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./bin/easy_install ../Zope2-2.13.23.tar.gz works but seems to use the wrong
requirements so Zope2 does not start.

How am I supposed to install Zope2 this time? Which INSTALL.rst,
INSTALL-buildout.rst or INSTALL-virtualenv.rst am I supposed to read (please
provide URL)?

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

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