Re: [Zope-dev] I smell commercial interest: PLOPE

2002-10-04 Thread Nils Kassube

Andy McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 We thought Plop was a better name that Plope btw ;)

This would only cause confusion with Plob. All the good names are
already taken :-)

http://lki-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~kirschke/diplom/




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Re: [Zope-dev] XMLRPC and Basic Auth problems

2002-08-15 Thread Nils Kassube

Casey Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The server returns a 200 response status. Strangly, the response
 headers do include WWW-Authenticate. So, the xml-rpc code must be
 changing the response status.

Yes. It's probably this piece in ZPublisher/xmlrpc.py:

--cut-- 
# Do the damage.
self.setBody(f)
self._real.setStatus(200)
--cut--

Damage, indeed :-) or better :-( 




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Re: [Zope-dev] DISCUSS: Enhanced MailHost (was: Speaking of 2.6...)

2002-04-18 Thread Nils Kassube

Hello Brian. 

* Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-17 20:29]:
 
 Ok. I'd like to run the mbox thing by Jim to see if he has any 

The product now uses a Maildir-style approach to deal with
concurrent writes. The creation of the file name uses 
time(), gethostname() and randint() to hopefully create 
enough uniqueness in the names. 

 reservations about that (writing to the FS, potential effect on 
 security, etc.) 

The flooding problem still is not solved. For production sites
it's probably a good idea to turn off the backup to prevent DOS
attacks. But for debugging it's a valuable tool. 

 with MailHost up-to-date). Chris McDonough is nominally in 
 charge of making sure doc updates are taken care of 
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can send doc updates (or pointers to 
 them) to him.

Okay, I'll write it if the okay from the BDFL is here ;-)

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-21 Thread Nils Kassube

* Jim Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001-06-20 19:12]:
 
 As far as I can tell you are wrong, but there are certainly gray
 areas.  The last time this came up I wrote such a scenario up and 
 tried to get FSF clarification.  Nothing ever came back.

I got a clarification from the FSF. It's in the mailing list
archives at

http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2000-September/118024.html

Some topics never die :-) 

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[Zope] FSF about Zope and GPL'ed components

2000-09-20 Thread Nils Kassube

== Forwarded Message ==
Date: 19.09.2000 16:57 Uhr
Received: 19.09.2000 22:58 Uhr
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Free Software Foundation)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nils Kassube)

Nils Kassube wrote:

 If I use a GPL'ed component in a complex object oriented environment
 like Zope, does this mean that the whole work is now subject to the GPL? 
 
 work = Zope-based web site/web application
 use = e.g. subclassing it or method calls, etc.

It sounds like you are building software that combines Zope and GPL'ed
software to form a single, larger program.  In this case, the whole larger
program falls under the terms of the GPL.

This is a real problem, since the license of Zope is incompatible with the
GNU GPL.  This means you can't legally distribute the system.

 
 If the GPL applies to the entire work, the resulting question is: How do I
 separate my work inside a Zope-based application from GPL'ed pieces to
 prevent this from happening?  Or do I have to rewrite the GPL part?

You cannot legally combined GPL'ed software with Zope.  You'll need to
rewrite the Zope part and release the software under a license compatible
with the Zope license, or you'll need to convince the developers of Zope to
make their license compatible with the GPL.

(In the latter case, the whole system would be covered by the GPL, so you'd
still be bound by the terms of the GPL---the only difference would be that
it'd be legally to distribute the system, since Zope wouldn't be
GPL-incompatible anymore.)
 
 Everything would be easy, if we would only be talking about programs like
 Emacs but Zope products/modules/components/whatever look more like
 libraries to me...

Regardless of whether or not a program is a library, when you combine it
with GPL'ed software to form a larger program, all of the code in the system
falls under the terms of the GPL.

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Re: [Zope] ZOPE - Size reduction ???

2000-09-18 Thread Nils Kassube

Guten Abend.

 Er, this is fine if you're building a new box (and if you're using
 simple IDE drives) but rather less so if you've exceeded the capacity on
 an existing system and/or you're using SCSI drives.

I use Ultra Wide SCSI on my main workstation. Compared to what I had to
pay for a 20 MB HD for my Amiga ten years ago, it is really cheap :-)

Of course, storage is rather expensive if you're held hostage by a
proprietary workstation company with ridiculous pricing for HDs like
e.g. HP.  

 heat problems) but you've still got to manage allocation of storage to
 the new drive. If there isn't space then you're talking about adding in
 another box (rather less cheap) or transferring the data from old to new
 - slow and the accountants won't be happy about writing off the old
 one.

I don't know the situation in the Wintel world, but I did this with
Macintosh and Unix systems. I've also always been able to reuse the old
box for different purposes.

To stay on topic with Zope: You don't have to retire the old system,
instead you could use ZEO... =:-

 In addition you have to worry about the cost of the time taken to
 perform any of the above.

Yes, but you also have to consider the opportunity cost. It's not
exactly a productive use of the time of your highly paid developers to
think about things like adhering to disk quotas.

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill

2000-09-13 Thread Nils Kassube

Dario Lopez-K”sten wrote:

 and then, when you want to distribute your modifications, you find yourself
 in a bad position, because it will mean that you would have to give
 everybody else the same rights that allowed you to distribute a modification
 of someone elses work, in the first place?

What if I can't distribute the modifications or a web site built
using GPL'ed components because I also use a commercial library
in it? 

To quote Dave Winer: "[The GPL is] designed to create a wall between
commercial development and free development. The world is not that
simple. There are plenty of commercial developers who participate in
open source. Python belongs in commercial products. How does that hurt
Python?"

I _do_ want to give something back to the community, but I do not
want to be forced to give away for free every piece of code I wrote 
because some silly person thinks it's okay to earn money with everything 
else but it's morally wrong to earn money with software development. 

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill

2000-09-13 Thread Nils Kassube

Jim Hebert wrote:

 Look, I'm the last person on earth to say the GPL is perfect, or is the
 one true license, or anything else. I've heard a number of GOOD arguments
 in a number of venues about why the GPL may not be the best choice in that
 setting.

From:

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-09-07-011-21-OS-CY-SW

--cut--
LT: From your viewpoint, should the differences between your licenses
and the GPL attract or deter developers? 

GVR: Both. It may deter GPL hardliners (but there seem to be few of
these in the Python world). But it attracts developers from the
proprietary world like I mentioned above. Many of these "proprietary"
companies are major contributors to Python and other open source
products. For example the new Unicode support and regular expression
engine, as well as several existing core library modules, were
contributed by people who also develop proprietary Python software
--cut--

 But this thread boils down to a bunch of people who want to sell a
 solution which includes work other than their own, receive all the money
 from the sale, bar the client from getting other 3rd parties to help
 them improve what they paid for, and further have a legal monopoly on
 distributing that solution to any additional people.

Looks like these people displaying "utter bald-faced greed and 
ingratitude" by developing proprietary software based on open
source products are important to Guido van Rossum. 

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope] zope 2.2.1 and python 1.6

2000-09-13 Thread Nils Kassube

Jon Nathan wrote:

 could break code.  can i run zope 2.2.1 on python 1.6 or should i
 stick with 1.5.2?

According to Guido van Rossum in 

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-09-07-011-21-OS-CY-SW
 
you are not able to use GPL'ed Zope products with Python 1.6
(or 2.0) until the dispute is settled.  

| GVR: It should be clear by now that the future of the Python license
| is not in my hands (nor in BeOpen's hands) but in the hands of CNRI
| and Richard Stallman. If they can't agree on changes to the 1.6
| license or a different interpretation of GPL compatibility by the FSF,
| the final release of Python 2.0 (planned for early October) will be
| incompatible with the GPL. Stallman has already mentioned that in that
| case he will attempt to maintain a GPL-compatible fork of Python,
| probably based on version 1.5.2. This would be a great waste of time
| for all, but I can't stop him. 

Well, possibly we'll lose the GPL'ed Zope components this way. 

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope] zope 2.2.1 and python 1.6

2000-09-13 Thread Nils Kassube

Guten Abend.

I recalled (?) my mail within a few minutes after sending. It
didn't yet appear on the mailing list. Too bad you can't 
cancel a mail like a Usenet posting.

 They can only constrain *distribution* of that software and derived
 works.  This is a serious problem for software authors, but not for
 people running Zope-based sites.

I think a lot of the people running Zope sites are developing
software too. If you use e.g. ZSQL methods and DTML to connect
to a database, you _are_ a software author. Website development
in Zope is actually programming. 

Well, but now it's time for the big soccer match in Hamburg =:-

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope] zope 2.2.1 and python 1.6

2000-09-13 Thread Nils Kassube

I wrote a lot of nonsense:
 
 you are not able to use GPL'ed Zope products with Python 1.6
 (or 2.0) until the dispute is settled.  

This is WRONG. Of course it is possible to use GPL'ed software
with less restrictive licensed programs. 

Must be the starting alcohol intoxication because of the Hamburg 
vs Juventus Turin game in the Champions League :-)  

Prosit, 
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Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill

2000-09-13 Thread Nils Kassube

Jim Hebert wrote:

 Third, again, you're responding as though the discussion is about
 re-licensing all of Zope under the, which simply isn't what anyone has

I'm only pointing out what I think is a problem with using a
GPL'ed component in a Zope site. 

My Zope-specific problem is: If I use a GPL'ed component in a complex
object oriented environment like Zope, does this mean that the whole
work is now subject to the GPL? 

work = Zope-based web site/web application
use = e.g. subclassing it or method calls, etc.

 proposed. Again, one side suggests that no one ever write a zope product
 under the GPL, ever, that we all standardize on a more liberal license,

Who did this? A strawman. 

 Again, please explain a reason why you should dictate to every person who
 wants to write a zope module why they shouldn't get to have the license of
 their choice. My advocacy protects your choice, your advocacy destroys
 other peoples'.

Sorry, but all I wrote was this:

| I hope Zope product developers think twice about using the GPL.

I don't dictate anything. No one here does. 

Get a life^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HPeace. 

I am not interested in a discussion about the merits of the GPL or the 
GNU project, I'm only interested in the practical implications of 
using GPL'ed Zope components. I'm sure there are people working 
on components who would like to share their software and don't
realize that by using the GPL they make it impossible or difficult
to use their code for commercial development. 

Cheers,
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[Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill

2000-09-12 Thread Nils Kassube

Oleg Broytmann wrote:

 LICENSE
GPL

I've seen several Zope products using the GPL. In my not so
humble opinion, this could develop into a serious problem
for Zope deployment. I'm not a lawyer (nor do I play one on TV),
but the use of GPL'ed source code like e.g. Renderable ZClass
in your web site probably means that you're now forced to publish
every single bit of source built using the GPL'ed module --
including commercial intranet projects. This can be impossible
if you don't own the rights to every single piece of code used
in a project. 

I hope Zope product developers think twice about using the GPL.
The GPL license is not about sharing like e.g. the BSD license,
it's about enforcing the political agenda of people who think
that commercial ("proprietary") software w/o source code is evil.

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill

2000-09-12 Thread Nils Kassube

Danny William Adair wrote:

 Is it not possible to take a few GPLed Zope products, add your own effort of
 configuring, integrating, building, (re-)designing, and even documenting the
 outcome of your efforts and - ___sell___ this? Maybe not only to _one_
 customer, but burn a CD and sell it to _a couple_ of customers?

You can sell it but...

AFAIK you risk that everyone else can copy your effort for free
if you built software on GPL'ed code.

And what's only a compilation and what's a derived work (subject
to the GPL) is up to the lawyers. Personally, I try to avoid
legal ambiguities. 

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope] Zope and the GPL poison pill

2000-09-12 Thread Nils Kassube

Magnus Alvestad wrote:

 Third, you are only obligated to distribute source to parties you have
 already distributed the binary version to.  I can't really see a
 customer buying a zope site from you and not expecting 'source'
 anyway.

The problem is not that a client who paid for custom development
will get the source. It's the fact that you have to release the
source code of an enhanced GPL'ed component (and possibly stuff
built with it) for everyone else, too. 

Another issue is that in a complex object oriented environment
like Zope it's difficult to determine if you only used a GPL'ed 
component or "embraced and extended" it. 
  
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Re: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison

2000-09-10 Thread Nils Kassube

Jason Cunliffe wrote:

 What's missing?

For example, everything with Java (e.g. Apple WebObjects) or 
Perl (e.g. Mason). 
 
There is a good overview of Content Management Systems at

http://www.camworld.com/cms/

 For each of above I'd like to fill in the following:
 
 {'name':"name", 'features':{feature dict},'pro':[pros],
 'con':[cons] }

That's a bit difficult to do because we don't know what you
want to do with a CMS/web application platform. Manila, for
instance, is a nice end-user weblog application but not a
replacement for a real web app server. 

 If was more adept in DTML was I could put up a comparative poll page though
 I suspect most here would respond like you Nils.

I'm only an innocent Computer Science student who still thinks
that in Real Life (tm) outside university you research competing
solutions before selecting a product :-)

Anyone else seeing the parallel to software mentioned in Douglas
Adams' "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"? 

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope] Looking for Zope vs. Others at-a-glance comparison

2000-09-09 Thread Nils Kassube

Jason Cunliffe wrote:

 I need to present the arguments for why we haev chosen Zope vs. Others. 
 Does anyone know of a clear at-a-glance table or anything with the main
 contenders, features, price, licensing etc.

You didn't collect this data _before_ choosing Zope? :-)

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Re: [Zope] Problem with zope mailing list

2000-08-31 Thread Nils Kassube

Francois-Regis CHALAOUX wrote:

 Any idea ?

A broken X.400 e-mail gateway? Your sysadmin should be able to
help you. 

| Received: (from x400@localhost)
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| Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text
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Re: [Zope] How do I create a folder full of virtual DTML objectsfrom records in a database records in a database

2000-08-25 Thread Nils Kassube

R. David Murray wrote:

 http://www.yoursite.com/yourmethod/recordid

This is really easy to do. Now, what do I have to do if I want to use
URLs like this:

http://www.yoursite.com/events/recordid/index.html 
http://www.yoursite.com/events/recordid/pics.html
http://www.yoursite.com/events/recordid/[...]/edit

The real data is stored in a RDBMS, only the user interface templates
are in the ZODB. Currently I use the obvious:

http://www.yoursite.com/events_display_info/recordid
http://www.yoursite.com/events_display_pics/recordid

etc.

Is it possible to use methods which get the recordid and a 
possible /edit extension from the URL and create the requested
objects on the fly? There was a discussion about this topic a few
months ago but I don't remember the exact circumstances so it's 
difficult to search for in the mailing list archive.

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope] zope's competitors

2000-07-27 Thread Nils Kassube

Oleg Broytmann wrote:

I coolected some on the page: http://zope.net.ru/Zope/rivals/

Disney's Open Source Tea project looks interesting:

http://opensource.go.com/

Is here anyone with enough time to check it out? :-)

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Re: [Zope] [newbie] cgi-tasks howto? stupid question

2000-07-05 Thread Nils Kassube

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rajil Saraswat) wrote:
 
 No isee the rendered page in the browser but i donot see the dtml-var
 valname value. it just gives a blank.
 is something wrong here.

Weird. Are you absolutely, positively sure that you use the DTML
source you published here? I mean are you sure that the action
attribute of the form tag is pointing to the right method? Or
is it perhaps possible that the source in the print method somehow
was changed? 

Please check twice, I made similiar mistakes in the past. Like
everyone else doing software development... :-)

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Re: [Zope] Programmierungshilfe

2000-07-04 Thread Nils Kassube

[Sorry for writing in German.]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruno Nana) wrote:

[Die deutschsprachige Mailing-Liste zu Zope kann man auf

http://mailman.beehive.de/mailman/listinfo/zope

abonnieren. Diese Liste, [EMAIL PROTECTED], ist üblicherweise
englischsprachig.] 

 Und alle diese Tabellen habe ich definiert und initialisiert, bei bestimmten
 Sachen werden die einige Tabelle gefunden, oder andere Tabellen gar nicht.

In welchem DBMS, Name und Version sind hilfreich, wurden die 
Tabellen definiert? Wie wird auf sie zugegriffen? Wie ist
die Rechtevergabe? Welches Betriebssystem?

Auffällig ist doch schon einmal, daß die Probleme scheinbar
nur auftreten, wenn versucht wird, Datensätze zu löschen. 

 Bitte könnte jemanden mir helfen, diese Fehler aufzuheben?

Vielleicht :-)

Tip: Wenn man andere um Hilfe bitte, immer alle relevanten
Informationen mitliefern. Wenn man im Zweifel ist, lieber
zuviel Details geben als zuwenig. 

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Re: [Zope] [newbie] cgi-tasks howto? stupid question

2000-07-04 Thread Nils Kassube

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rajil Saraswat) wrote:

 browser with the name as valname. Then how do i print this valname thru
 dtml.

This is easy. 

dtml-var valname

See the rules for "Name Lookup" in the DTML Reference Guide. There
are circumstances where it's not so simple... 

 ofcourse i checked out with the guides but could locate cgi calls,

That's so because the documentation sucks^H^H^H^H^Hneeds to
be improved. Digital Creations is aware of this.

 ps: dont kick me out, everybody has to have a start.

We are all gentle tolerant people here. Well, most of the time.

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Re: [Zope] [newbie] cgi-tasks howto? stupid question

2000-07-04 Thread Nils Kassube

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rajil Saraswat) wrote:

 i tried out this but this isnt working  out for me. can you point out the
 error.

The DTML source is okay. This should work. 

 when i submit the form the print page is outputted but the value of the
 textbox(valname) is not outputted. whats wrong?

What do you mean by "the print page is outputted"? Do you see
the source? Or is only the dtml-var valname part not displayed?

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Re: [Zope] Howto engineer a scientific paper system

2000-06-29 Thread Nils Kassube

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 build on.  What I did not find about LaTeX was a screenshot (isn't it
 a wysiwg enviroment on top of TeX marked-up text) and a content link

No. LaTeX is, simply phrased, a collection of macros and templates
for the TeX system. They include a lot of professional typesetting
and design know-how which is applied dynamically to the document,
so the author of the paper can concentrate on the content, rather
than on the layout. You can still give explicit layout commands,
if you know what you're doing. (Most people imho don't.) 
 
LyX is a document processor for Unix and Win32 building on the
LaTeX/TeX engine which uses a wysiwym approach. It's worth one
or two looks:

http://www.lyx.org/about/

Yes, there are screenshots =:- 
 
 XML stuff in zope. Which leads me to the later suggestion, I have
 tried out DocBook product, rendering is very slow on my computer.

You could use any of the tools on

http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/tools/index.html

and then import the exported HTML and PDF documents to your
Zope installations to avoid the speed penalty. 

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Re: [Zope] Howto engineer a scientific paper system

2000-06-29 Thread Nils Kassube

Pavlos Christoforou wrote:

 contents in the formats required by most journals. Check also Lynx which

Lynx is text-only web browser with a code open for lots of
potential security issues. 

[A quick look to my TV: Netherlands vs. Italy still 0-0, okay,
so I can write a bit more...]

 is a minimal (last i checked) wysiwig environment for Latex.

What you're looking for is called LyX:

http://www.lyx.org

It's not really a WYSIWYG but a self described "what you see is
what you mean" editor.  

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Re: [Zope] Howto engineer a scientific paper system

2000-06-28 Thread Nils Kassube

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In short, I would like to have Zope assist me in producing a
 scientific paper.

Why do you want to use Zope for this? What's the expected
advantage against using e.g. LaTeX?

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Re: [Zope] PowerMac 7500 with LinuxPPC and Zope?

2000-06-28 Thread Nils Kassube

Guten Abend.

 Should I consider a different linux distribution than PPC?

SuSE 6.4 is now also available for the Power Macintosh and other
PowerPC platforms. I'm very interested in knowing if Zope runs 
as good on SuSE/PPC as on SuSE/x86. Please try it... :-)

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Re: [Zope] Howto engineer a scientific paper system

2000-06-28 Thread Nils Kassube

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Better integration into the Web, resources should be accessible on
 the fly. I would like to have the sources of my ideas packed close

You can have this with LaTeX _and_ an excellent quality
of the printed document. 

 together with the actual content I am producing, delving into a
 particular subject should then be straight forward. However,
 I have never used LaTeX.

You should change this :-)

A few URLs to get you started:

TeX User's Group 
http://www.tug.org/

A Guide to LaTeX: Third Edition
http://cseng.aw.com/bookdetail.qry?ISBN=0-201-39825-7

The LaTeX Web Companion: Integrating TeX, HTML, and XML
http://cseng.aw.com/bookdetail.qry?ISBN=0-201-43311-7ptype=0

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Re: [Zope] Question about dtml-in sorting

2000-05-30 Thread Nils Kassube

Patrick J.M. Keane wrote:

 I get the opposite behaviour.  Any easy way to reverse the sort order?

Well, I found there _is_ a reverse attribute to the dtml-in
tag, but it's not documented in my version (2.1.0, 1999/12/17)
of the DTML Reference. It works.

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Re: [Zope] HTML EDITORS

2000-05-29 Thread Nils Kassube

Bill Anderson wrote:

 GVIM

Yes! This is a powerful editor with an easy-to-use interface
available for every major platform (and a lot of minor ones): 

http://www.vim.org 
http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?EmacsVsVi

I use Vim daily on Mac OS, Win98 and Unix (Linux, Slowlaris) 
and love the consistent cross-plattform UI.

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