[Zope] ZCatalog : Searching Multiple Indexes : Returning One Result

2008-07-07 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Hi, I have a catalog called catalog that contains a bunch of cataloged
items. I have indexed 3 properties for each item, name, body and
description. I'd like to be able to search the catalog in the following
way:

if the word text shows up in any index, name, body or description,
return that result back once.

The problem is I have is that if a do a search for text and say there's
results that have the word text in one or more of those indexes:

catalog({name:query}) or catalog({body:query}) or
catalog({description:query})
only gives back limited results (leaves out some 'True' hits) and:
catalog({name:query}) + catalog({body:query}) + catalog({description:query})
gives me back the same result 3 times.

any ideas? Thanks.
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Re: [Zope] statistics and click analysis for a plone site

2008-06-02 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Highly recommend Google Analytics:
http://www.google.com/analytics/
I've used it myself to track usage for a zope intranet which is only
accessible on an internal network.

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:52 AM, robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,
 for a Client using a plone2 intranet (with no access from the outside world)
 I installed awstat to track the usage of the intranet.
 now I wonder how meningfull such statisics are.

 The intranet usage is roughly as follows:
 - user logs into the intranet authenticating against a
 Ldap/MSActiveDirectory
 - she stays in the intranet all day, probably never logs out
 - collects data as needed

 The awstats setup is very basic. I just installed it and adopted the config
 files such that it finds the apache log files.
 I did a second setup for the Z2.log (to get at the old data, as we do not
 rotate the Z2.log).

 Looking at the awstats statistics I do not find them of overwhelming
 informative.
 Now, I now awstats is not a click analysis tool. but maybe somebody has done
 some more analysis into how to provide useful statistics on the usage of an
 intranet.
 Any pointers would be welcome.

 thanks
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[Zope] manage_users.dtml

2008-04-25 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
I'm using Zope 2.10.5. Made a change to
/python/App/dtml/manage_users.dtml and it's not showing up after I
rebooted. I even removed /python/App/dtml/manage_users.dtml altogether
and and rebooted and the app came up fine, still not showing the
change. Is there another file that controls the ZMI tabs in Zope2 in
2.10.5. I have a couple of older version that I tested this on, 2.9.6
and ti worked fine. Thanks!

- Tom
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[Zope] manage_tabs.dtml (was manage_users.dtml)

2008-04-25 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Sorry!!  I meant /python/App/dtml/manage_tabs.dtml

-- Forwarded message --
From: Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Subject: manage_users.dtml
To: zope list user zope@zope.org


I'm using Zope 2.10.5. Made a change to
 /python/App/dtml/manage_users.dtml and it's not showing up after I
 rebooted. I even removed /python/App/dtml/manage_users.dtml altogether
 and and rebooted and the app came up fine, still not showing the
 change. Is there another file that controls the ZMI tabs in Zope2 in
 2.10.5. I have a couple of older version that I tested this on, 2.9.6
 and ti worked fine. Thanks!

 - Tom
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[Zope] Re: manage_tabs.dtml (was manage_users.dtml)

2008-04-25 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
It was using manage_tabs.dtml in /Products/ExternalEditor. Wow, that
was driving me nuts.

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry!!  I meant /python/App/dtml/manage_tabs.dtml

  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 4:07 PM
  Subject: manage_users.dtml
  To: zope list user zope@zope.org


  I'm using Zope 2.10.5. Made a change to
   /python/App/dtml/manage_users.dtml and it's not showing up after I
   rebooted. I even removed /python/App/dtml/manage_users.dtml altogether
   and and rebooted and the app came up fine, still not showing the
   change. Is there another file that controls the ZMI tabs in Zope2 in
   2.10.5. I have a couple of older version that I tested this on, 2.9.6
   and ti worked fine. Thanks!

   - Tom

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Re: [Zope] anyone heard of Zamasing?

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Thats pretty awesome. It's zamazing to me that Zope 2 is not a de facto
platform for Web 2.0 projects. I think it has some major benefits over
Rails and maybe even Django but there seems to be no interest in it from
that community. This is a great start.

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Peter Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not until now. But I'm amased! Really looking forward to taking it for a
 spin.

 On 16/04/2008, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...I certainly never had until someone threw a press release my way...
 
   http://zamasing.com
 
   Any ideas/comments/etc?
 
   Chris
 
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Re: [Zope] simple use case for rotating images

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Also check out:
Google AJAX Slide Show
http://www.google.com/uds/solutions/slideshow/index.html

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 --On 16. April 2008 09:32:38 -0700 David Bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  We are finding that flash is used to generate simple slide shows. I'm
  thinking it would be 'better' to use an ajax like method and zope to serve
  up a set of standard images. Anyone know of examples? I completely new to
  ajax and have looked at a few ajax libraries. So far they all see overkill
  for what I want.
 

 Lightbox2 is small and trivial to use:

 http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2/

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Re: [Zope] Conditional dtml-boundary in dtml-sendmail

2008-04-10 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
The email library should be available to use with a Script (Python) and can
be done all within the ZMI. Otherwise maybe use dtml-try?

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Josef Meile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear list

 I'm trying to send a multi-part email after having submitted a
 form. In that form, the user will give some basic information
 from him, then he will be able to send at most three files.

 This is my dtml-method to send email after having submitted the
 data:

 dtml-let email=REQUEST.get('aba_email_txt').encode('utf-8')
  name=REQUEST.get('aau_name_txt').encode('utf-8')
  lastName=REQUEST.get('aat_vorname_txt').encode('utf-8')
  company=REQUEST.get('aas_firma_txt').encode('utf-8')
  file1=REQUEST.get('aap_dateien_anhang_dat')
  file2=REQUEST.get('aaq_dateien_anhang_dat')
  file3=REQUEST.get('aar_dateien_anhang_dat')

 dtml-sendmail smtphost=my_host.my_domain.com
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: dtml-email;
 Subject: Anfrage dtml-name; dtml-lastName; - dtml-company;
 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
 dtml-mime type=text/html; charset=utf-8
 html
  body
Some html code comes here
  /body
 /html
 dtml-boundary type=application/octet-stream disposition=attachment
   filename_expr=file1.filename
 dtml-var file1.read()dtml-boundary type=application/octet-stream
 disposition=attachment
   filename_expr=file2.filename
 dtml-var file2.read()dtml-boundary type=application/octet-stream
 disposition=attachment
   filename_expr=file3.filename
 dtml-var file3.read()/dtml-mime
 /dtml-sendmail
 /dtml-let

 Let's say that the user doesn't submit file3, on that case, zope will
 generate something like this: some_ramdom_id.dat and it will attach
 an empty file. I tried something like this:

 dtml-if file1.filename not in ['', None]dtml-boundary
  type=application/octet-stream disposition=attachment
  filename_expr=file1.filename
 dtml-var file1.read()/dtml-if

 However when I try to save, zope fails and says:

 
 Error Type: Document Template Parse Error
 Error Value: Unexpected tag, for tag dtml-boundary
 type=application/octet-stream disposition=attachment
 filename_expr=file1.filename , on line 215 of sendAnfrage
 

 The only way I found to cope with this was doing a script to validate if a
 file has whether a name or not, then I will return a dictionary like this:
 {'name': real_name_or_dummy_name, 'data': file.read()_or_dummy_text}

 So, I feed the boundary with a dummy file when no file was uploaded. I
 don't
 really like to send dummy files since it may confuse the person receiving
 the emails. Is there any better way of achieving this? Please note that
 since I'm working in the zmi and I'm not the administrator of the machine
 where my page is hosted, I can only use dtml to send mail :-(, thus using
 the python mail library isn't an option on this case.

 Best regards
 Josef

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Re: [Zope] Conditional dtml-boundary in dtml-sendmail

2008-04-10 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
How is dtml more error-prone than python? I'd imagine that all depends on
who's authoring it.


 On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
  --On 9. April 2008 22:40:01 +0200 Josef Meile [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   Dear list
  
   I'm trying to send a multi-part email after having submitted a
   form. In that form, the user will give some basic information
   from him, then he will be able to send at most three files.
  
 
  I started shivering while reading your code. We would have written such
  code
  five or six years ago - because we had no other choice.
  Please use the standard 'email' module of Python...this just works
  and you don't need to write such ugly and error-prone DTML
  code.
 
  -aj
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Re: [Zope] Can Zope do this...?

2008-02-08 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


On Feb 7, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Eric Gorr wrote:

I need to create a site that works similarly to php.net...the  
problem is the same - to document a language.


From what I've seen, zope is fully capable of doing nearly  
everything I need it do, but I am uncertain about one aspect...check  
out:


http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.fopen.php

for an example.

The aspects of this page that I like are:

1. It is not frame based

2. The left column shows a list of functions in the same category

3. The left column allows one to move up the function tree (i.e.  
^Filesystem function, ^Function Reference, etc.)


4. There is static documentation for every function (Description,  
Parameters, Return Values, etc. - I'm sure zope could handle this  
part)


5. Users are allowed to comment on the functions


Assuming that Zope can do this, how difficult would it be? Can I get  
some pointers into the Zope documentation for how to accomplish  
this? Is it worth starting with something like Plone instead of with  
'raw' zope?


Thank you.


Yes, easily. I'd go with raw zope.






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[Zope] Z2.log

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

Can instance/log/Z2.log be deleted? On restart is fresh file created?
Also, is max-bytes supported for logfiles in zope.conf?

Thanks, Tom
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Re: [Zope] Z2.log

2008-01-30 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:



On Jan 30, 2008, at 18:17 , Tom Von Lahndorff wrote:

Can instance/log/Z2.log be deleted? On restart is fresh file  
created?


Yup.



Also, is max-bytes supported for logfiles in zope.conf?


What's that?


Saw it referenced here:
http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/568

logger access
  level WARN
  #logfile
  #  path $INSTANCE/log/Z2.log
  #  format %(message)s
  #/logfile
  rotatelogfile
path $INSTANCE/log/Z2.log
format %(message)s
max-bytes 5MB
compression zip
backup-count 0
  /rotatelogfile
/logger




jens



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Re: [Zope] Plone middle aligns all colums

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


If you've introduced tables into the overall layout tds will not align  
the content to the top by default. You'd need to add td {vertical- 
align: top} to your css. I doubt the problem has to do with a setting  
in Plone or Zope. It would be easier to trouble shoot this if there  
were a link to the page in question.


On Jan 16, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Lars Hohmuth wrote:

I have a weird problem with our Plone 2.5.3 test site after a new  
designer took over. Plone now middle aligns the content column and  
the portlets in the slot on the center line, instead of on top.



  

---
| Left-slots|
||center
||
---

 -

We can sort of fix this by manually adding vertical-align: top; in  
the css. But my designer claims that he caused this by “changing a  
setting in Plone or the ZMI” and doesn’t remember which one.


Since it’s not on the production site, it’s not a life and death  
situation, but any suggestions what might cause this are gratefully  
accepted. Google and the Plone site search yielded pretty much  
nothing.


Thanks,
Lars Hohmuth

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Re: [Zope] Zope ZMI Templates

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


You really should be writing a custom UI for this rather than hacking  
the ZMI. It will probably take less time, be much more manageable,  
flexible and secure.


On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Tim Nash wrote:


The other important difference between ajax loaded pages and iframes
is that when you click on a link within an iframe page, the returned
page is loaded into the same iframe.
If I am not being clear, please check out this png file.
a href=http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png;
http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png
/a
In this png I did a search for DML Docs within a tab panel and the
search results are loaded into the same tab.

BTW, I would like to simplify the zmi even more for my users. I want
to hide various tabs (eg. security, find, etc) and I want to restrict
the number of products they are shown in the drop down box for adding
to a folder.
However, I still want to offer complete zmi functionality to the
overall administrator.
I can probably hide the security tabs using css (the overall admin
won't load the css sheet) but how can I control the products displayed
to a user in the folder view of the zmi?

Thanks,
Tim



On Jan 16, 2008 9:54 AM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



--On 16. Januar 2008 09:33:58 +0100 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:



Tim Nash wrote:

Jurian,
 While the ZMI is a bit geeky for the average user, it works quite
well inside an iframe.
iframes are used by many ajax/web2 (whatever you want to call it)
libraries. So in my application (for example) I currently make ajax
calls to load specific zmi pages inside tabs of a window layout.


IFRames. You should avoid those. With ajax or similar its easy to  
skip

such stuff and just replace any named container tag.


Iframes are still a valid choice in case asynchronous won't work  
e.g. when
you need to load resources from servers != your origin server. Due  
the
security model of asynchronous requests, a browser will only load  
stuff
from the origin server. Iframes are a way to work around this  
limitation -

ugly as you said, but sometimes a good workaround.

Ansdeas

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Re: [Zope] Zope ZMI Templates

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


There's nothing wrong with the ZMI. You're just try to hack into some  
kind of cms rather than just build one. Hiding a link with css is  
nasty hack and major security issue. While it may seem like what  
you're doing is an easy path to a quick cms, you're really just  
setting yourself up for a management nightmare. I'd recommend reading  
through (all of) this:


http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook


On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Tim Nash wrote:


Tom,
 Thanks but I think I am almost done. I have replaced the old style
calls with id=Find id=Properties etc. by access the sequence. Then
I added css code at the top of that same file (I think it is
manage_tabs.dtml, I'm not on that computer right now). So now I can
format the tabs anyway I want. There is also a little bit of
javascript that checks window.parent.location and applies changes to
the tabs if the user hasn't logged into the base directory.(only
available to the admin).

My thinking is that the zmi is battle tested. I'd rather use something
that many people have already been using. Plus, from my perspective,
it looks to me like the zmi just needs a little updating.
Incorporating style sheets, etc. and it can have a new life.

zope 3 people:  zope zmi, dtml are fast and really useful, please
don't toss these valuable tools!

On Jan 17, 2008 6:25 AM, Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You really should be writing a custom UI for this rather than hacking
the ZMI. It will probably take less time, be much more manageable,
flexible and secure.


On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Tim Nash wrote:


The other important difference between ajax loaded pages and iframes
is that when you click on a link within an iframe page, the returned
page is loaded into the same iframe.
If I am not being clear, please check out this png file.
a href=http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png;
http://medicinebrain.com/iframe.png
/a
In this png I did a search for DML Docs within a tab panel and the
search results are loaded into the same tab.

BTW, I would like to simplify the zmi even more for my users. I want
to hide various tabs (eg. security, find, etc) and I want to  
restrict
the number of products they are shown in the drop down box for  
adding

to a folder.
However, I still want to offer complete zmi functionality to the
overall administrator.
I can probably hide the security tabs using css (the overall admin
won't load the css sheet) but how can I control the products  
displayed

to a user in the folder view of the zmi?

Thanks,
Tim



On Jan 16, 2008 9:54 AM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



--On 16. Januar 2008 09:33:58 +0100 Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED]



wrote:



Tim Nash wrote:

Jurian,
While the ZMI is a bit geeky for the average user, it works quite
well inside an iframe.
iframes are used by many ajax/web2 (whatever you want to call it)
libraries. So in my application (for example) I currently make  
ajax

calls to load specific zmi pages inside tabs of a window layout.


IFRames. You should avoid those. With ajax or similar its easy to
skip
such stuff and just replace any named container tag.


Iframes are still a valid choice in case asynchronous won't work
e.g. when
you need to load resources from servers != your origin server. Due
the
security model of asynchronous requests, a browser will only load
stuff
from the origin server. Iframes are a way to work around this
limitation -
ugly as you said, but sometimes a good workaround.

Ansdeas



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Re: [Zope] Intercept request

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


On Jan 7, 2008, at 9:00 AM, David Chelimsky wrote:


Hi,

I want to show different things to different viewers based on their IP
addresses. How can I do this?

Cheers,
David


swap out theipaddress with the actual IP.

dtml-if REMOTE_ADDR == 'theipaddress'
true
dtml-elif HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR == 'theipaddress'
true
dtml-else
false
/dtml-if

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Re: [Zope] Intercept request

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

On Jan 7, 2008, at 9:18 AM, David Chelimsky wrote:


On Jan 7, 2008 8:06 AM, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--On 7. Januar 2008 08:00:27 -0600 David Chelimsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:


Hi,

I want to show different things to different viewers based on  
their IP

addresses. How can I do this?



Basically you look at the clients ip address (from the REQUEST  
object)
and perform any action you need (redirections, conditions within  
scripts,
templates)...but no idea what the sense of this usecase is. If you  
have

different audiences, setup sites with different content or something
similar. In addition: using Zope behind proxy will lead in request  
coming

from the IP address of your reverse proxy. Additional
configuration/programming is necessary to get hold of the original  
IP.


Thanks for the reply.

The use case is that my client wants to block a range of IP addresses
from being able to view their site. So I need to access the
originating IP address and filter appropriately.

I've written a few custom zope products before, but I've not done
anything that really modifies zope's behaviour on every request - just
on requests for the specific objects I'm publishing. So I'm familiar
with the request object, but I don't know how to intercept *every*
request. Are there any global request life-cycle hooks? If you can
point me to those that would be a great help.

Cheers,
David


If you just need to redirect traffic from an IP range, and not do  
anything fancy, it may be better to do it in Apache rather than Zope.

http://wiki.zope.org/zope2/ZopeAndApache

Tom



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Re: [Zope] Best Practice for including Javascript in Zope Applications

2008-01-02 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

On Jan 1, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Matt Hollingsworth wrote:


Hello,

I’m new to developing for zope, and I have a quick question  
regarding some best practices when using Javascript in zope  
applications.


I would like to use Ext JS (http://www.extjs.com/ ) in an  
application that I am writing.  It is a fairly extensive library, so  
I didn’t really want to copy/paste every single file into a dtml  
method.  I looked all over the place for some discussion on this  
subject, but only found things relating to plone (which apparently  
has a javascript registry); however, I wish to stay away from plone  
for this particular application.


What should I do to use these libraries?  Is there a canned solution  
for this sort of thing?


Thank you much!

-Matt
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use LocalFS to access them.

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Re: [Zope] Frustrated with Python and Frameworks. Zope, Grok, Django, CherryPy

2007-11-27 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Zope2 + DTML + Python and you're good to go. I know a bunch of  
developers/designers, including myself that use this combo all the  
time. I currently use it for projects at a Fortune 500 company. The  
docs suck but once you get in the groove you can bang out solid,  
stable, good looking, standard compliant sites unbelievably fast.  
Acquisition can be your best friend and you reuse a lot of your coding  
for multiple projects. There are still developers on this list who use  
DTML over ZPT, they just dont post much to it because of the ZPT  
backlash you get when you do. I've gotten private messages off this  
list from people though about DTML so there is support out there. Its  
true that most of the products for Zope 2 have been updated in a while  
but I can tell you that most will work fine with the latest Zope 2  
release and are very customizable. The Zope2 ecosystem is pretty  
mature and stable just poorly documented or supported. I do think  
you'll probably get the Zope Zen quicker than you think and be able  
to figure out a lot on your own.


On Nov 26, 2007, at 8:18 PM, Rene B wrote:

I'm frustrated trying to select a python web framework. I’ve  
researched quite a
few. CherryPy,Karrigell,Zope 2,3,Grok, Gluon,Django,Mod_Python. I’ve  
also

looked at templating languages like Spyce, and Cheetah.
I’m beginning to think there’s nothing  out there  for a newbie python
programmer like myself.  I’m a Network Admin  that likes programming  
but

doesn’t have the time to get really proficient at it.
I selected Python as a language of choice and that’s all I’ve used.   
I’ve

written a  few scripts .
I’m interested in building dynamic web sites but I tell you  it’s  
impossible to

select a tool.
I’ve researched all the tools mentioned above.  The most important  
thing in my
decision is that I know some Python and want to use it to build the  
dynamic
site. I don’t want to learn a new language to do that. ZPT is a new  
language.
Its not python.  Not even close.  Out of all the ones I’ve  
researched I like
Zope 2 the best.  Not sure why. I want some thing easy.  I like  
DTML. It’s
easy. I know why ZPT has it’s advantages but for ease of use it  
doesn’t come
close to DTML. Most people like me wont  be building complex web  
sites and  I’d
be the only working on it meaning I’ll do the HTML layout and code  
the dynamic
portions of it. So I don’t’ need to worry about  an HTML editor  
getting

confused with the dynamic languages  mixed in blah blah  blah.

I’m afraid to learn Zope 2 because I have no idea what direction  
it’s going in.
Not to mention I don’t particularly like ZPT. I’ve read DTML isn’t  
going
anywhere but I don’t imagine I’ll get much support  on it when  
needed and I’m

sure people will be telling me to use ZPT cause DTML is dead.
Funny, I read something while reading news about Grok’s new plugins  
for any
template language . They used Genshi as an example and talked about  
template
languages and which one is better etc.. The bottom line was use the  
one that
you like.  So I wish people would stop putting down DTML or others  
over the
one they prefer and continue to help those regardless of which they  
choose.
Back to trying to choose. I think Django is too hard.  I like  
Mod_python with
PSP. PSP seems to be more python like then anything I’ve seen. Yet  
Mod_Python

has terrible docs for people like me and it doesn't seem to popular.
The other frameworks have some good ideas. I like Karrigell but you  
just don’t
know how long it will be supported.Gluon is cool but its new.  Zope  
3 is out of
the question. Grok looks to me like  another CherryPy. It may be  
easier the
Zope 3 but it’s not easier then Zope 2. Plus I’ve yet to get it  
installed on my

windows XP to play.
I like cheetah as a tool. There docs are not that great and not many  
examples.
Plus no auto generated content  like you get in Zope 2.  Yes some  
magic is
good. The CRUD is what made Rails over rated to start out  
with.People like some
magic. saves time.  Combining Cheetah and Zope sounds interesting to  
me.
So what do I do. I like Zope 2. I can’t find any books on it  
released after

2002. Plone is tooo much.
There aren’t any new products out for Zope 2 and the ones that are  
there

haven’t been touched for years.
Zope 2 wiki seems dead.  I was looking the other day for some type  
of  auto
CRUD for Zope 2. couldn’t find  anyting. No one seems to be adding  
anything new

to Zope 2 which scares me the most.
If I take the time to learn a tool I want to make sure it’s going to  
be around
for awhile and have good support and new addons  being added all of  
the time to

help me.


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[Zope] Zope Jobs

2007-11-06 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Anyone have any recommendations for a good place to post a Zope job?  
Its for a freelance, work from where ever gig. Thanks.


Tom
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Re: [Zope] SOAPMethod

2007-09-04 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
See Johnathan's comment. It sounds like an html/css issue. If it  
renders in the source its working.


On Sep 4, 2007, at 4:48 AM, Mark Baldry wrote:


Hi Tom

to be honest i would much rather use DTML as i understand this but  
it doesn't
seem to work it only returns the result of the SOAP query when i  
view the
source code. The SOAPMethod product recommends DTML but I have  
followed the

example they give and this is what is happening.

Mark

On Monday 03 September 2007 17:32, Jonathan wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: robert rottermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: zope@zope.org
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] SOAPMethod


Hi Mark,

There's nothing wrong with using DTML instead of TAL. each have  
their
drawbacks and benefits and it really comes down to user choice  
and  job

requirements. People on this list though will always recommend  TAL
because they are mostly developers who use WYSIWYG html editors.   
If you
hand code your design markup dtml can be much cleaner, require   
less code

and avoid annoying problems with javascript.

Tom


+1   ;-)


Jonathan


On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:10 AM, robert rottermann wrote:

Mark Baldry schrieb:
I need to get some information from a database and display it  
on  our

website.
It's a very simple query just passing one number to get the   
record.

The only
way i am allowed to query this database is via SOAP.

I have installed the SOAPMethod and have got it working but i   
cannot

get the
result to display. I can only view the result when i look at the
source of
the page.

the dtml Method i am using is written -

dtml-var expr=requestStudentData('5506239')

this is what the help that came with the product says to use.

(requestStudentData is the name of the SOAPMethod and 5506239  
is  the

query
string i am passing to the database.)


you better do not use dtml but tal (aka page templates). to  
learn  about

it go to the zope site and look up the zope book (take the one on
plope.org)

it would look something like:
html
  head
title tal:content=template/titleThe title/title
  /head
  body

bSome information on student 5506239/b
div tal:content=python:requestStudentData('5506239') /

  /body
/html


HTH
robert
robert.vcf
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Re: [Zope] Stripping Quotes

2007-09-04 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


doesn't work. the double quotes are not escaped and zope sees them as  
the end of the expression.


 From: Jaroslav Lukesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: August 29, 2007 6:16:12 PM EDT
 To: Zope user list zope@zope.org, Tom Von Lahndorff
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Stripping Quotes

 dtml-var _.str('string\with\'quotes').replace('\','').replace
 ('\'','')


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Re: [Zope] SOAPMethod

2007-09-03 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Hi Mark,

There's nothing wrong with using DTML instead of TAL. each have their  
drawbacks and benefits and it really comes down to user choice and  
job requirements. People on this list though will always recommend  
TAL because they are mostly developers who use WYSIWYG html editors.  
If you hand code your design markup dtml can be much cleaner, require  
less code and avoid annoying problems with javascript.


Tom

On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:10 AM, robert rottermann wrote:


Mark Baldry schrieb:
I need to get some information from a database and display it on  
our website.
It's a very simple query just passing one number to get the  
record. The only

way i am allowed to query this database is via SOAP.

I have installed the SOAPMethod and have got it working but i  
cannot get the
result to display. I can only view the result when i look at the  
source of

the page.

the dtml Method i am using is written -

dtml-var expr=requestStudentData('5506239')

this is what the help that came with the product says to use.

(requestStudentData is the name of the SOAPMethod and 5506239 is  
the query

string i am passing to the database.)


you better do not use dtml but tal (aka page templates). to learn  
about
it go to the zope site and look up the zope book (take the one on  
plope.org)


it would look something like:
html
  head
title tal:content=template/titleThe title/title
  /head
  body

bSome information on student 5506239/b
div tal:content=python:requestStudentData('5506239') /

  /body
/html


HTH
robert
robert.vcf
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[Zope] Stripping Quotes

2007-08-29 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Whats the best way to strip (double and/or single) quotes from a  
string in python and/or dtml? Thanks.

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[Zope] Can't start Zope

2007-08-28 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Getting the following error. Thanks in advance.

]# ./zopectl start
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/ 
zopectl.py, line 322, in ?

main()
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/ 
zopectl.py, line 280, in main

options.realize(args)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/ 
zopectl.py, line 91, in realize

ZDOptions.realize(self, *args, **kw)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/zdaemon/ 
zdoptions.py, line 273, in realize

self.load_schema()
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/zdaemon/ 
zdoptions.py, line 321, in load_schema

self.schema = ZConfig.loadSchema(self.schemafile)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/ZConfig/ 
loader.py, line 31, in loadSchema

return SchemaLoader().loadURL(url)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/ZConfig/ 
loader.py, line 65, in loadURL

return self.loadResource(r)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/ZConfig/ 
loader.py, line 159, in loadResource

schema = ZConfig.schema.parseResource(resource, self)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/ZConfig/ 
schema.py, line 27, in parseResource

xml.sax.parse(resource.file, parser)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/__init__.py, line 33, in  
parse

parser.parse(source)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py, line 107,  
in parse

xmlreader.IncrementalParser.parse(self, source)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/xmlreader.py, line 123, in  
parse

self.feed(buffer)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py, line 207,  
in feed

self._parser.Parse(data, isFinal)
  File /usr/local/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py, line 300,  
in start_element

self._cont_handler.startElement(name, AttributesImpl(attrs))
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/ZConfig/ 
schema.py, line 99, in startElement

getattr(self, start_ + name)(attrs)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/ZConfig/ 
schema.py, line 475, in start_schema

keytype, valuetype, datatype = self.get_sect_typeinfo(attrs)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/ZConfig/ 
schema.py, line 201, in get_sect_typeinfo

datatype = self.get_datatype(attrs, datatype, null, base)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/ZConfig/ 
schema.py, line 194, in get_datatype

return self._registry.get(dtname)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/ZConfig/ 
datatypes.py, line 398, in get

t = self.search(name)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/ZConfig/ 
datatypes.py, line 423, in search

package = __import__(n, g, g, component)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/ 
datatypes.py, line 21, in ?

import OFS.Uninstalled
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/OFS/ 
Uninstalled.py, line 16, in ?

import  SimpleItem, Globals, Acquisition
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/OFS/ 
SimpleItem.py, line 26, in ?

import AccessControl.Role, AccessControl.Owned, App.Common
ImportError: No module named AccessControl.Role
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Re: [Zope] Can t start Zope

2007-08-28 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


This is in the error log:

-08-20T15:12:21 ERROR root Exception while rendering an error message
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/OFS/ 
SimpleItem.py, line 225, in raise_standardErrorMessage

v = s(client, REQUEST, **kwargs)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/OFS/ 
DTMLMethod.py, line 143, in __call__

r=apply(HTML.__call__, (self, client, REQUEST), kw)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/ 
DT_String.py, line 476, in __call__

try: result = render_blocks(self._v_blocks, md)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/OFS/ 
DTMLMethod.py, line 136, in __call__

r=apply(HTML.__call__, (self, client, REQUEST), kw)
  File /opt/zope/Zope-2.10.1_Software/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/ 
DT_String.py, line 476, in __call__

try: result = render_blocks(self._v_blocks, md)
Unauthorized: You are not allowed to access 'admin' in this context

Any ideas?

On Aug 28, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:




--On 28. August 2007 12:32:42 -0400 Tom Von Lahndorff  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 import AccessControl.Role, AccessControl.Owned, App.Common
ImportError: No module named AccessControl.Role


Broken installation? And why Zope 2.10.1? We are currently at 2.10.4.

Andreas


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Re: [Zope] Form-Through-Script

2007-08-13 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

On Aug 13, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:




--On 13. August 2007 15:39:40 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi;
I have a form that I need to send to a script and then send off to  
a URL
(PayPal). I need to process it through the script to renumber  
things for

PP. How do I do this? I imagine I add an element to the PT like so:

form action=renumberTheCart(here/CheckOutAfterEditStuff)  
method=post


but I need to pass a parameter doc, which, of course, is the  
document

I'm submitting. So I tried this:

form action=renumberTheCart(here/CheckOutAfterEditStuff)  
method=post

p metal:use-macro=here/CheckOutAfterEditStuff/macros/main /


You might check out the basics about HTML forms first. The 'action'  
parameter is an URL and *not* some Python-like function call. You  
specify the destination URL inside the action attribute and pass  
the parameters as *hidden* form parameters to the URL - either  
using method GET or POST.


You'll find more on forms in any HTML tutorial. Start from here:

http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_forms.asp



If you're uploading a file you'll want to also add enctype=multipart/ 
form-data to the form tag. I usually add it by default.


http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.13.4
The content type application/x-www-form-urlencoded is inefficient  
for sending large quantities of binary data or text containing non- 
ASCII characters. The content type multipart/form-data should be  
used for submitting forms that contain files, non-ASCII data, and  
binary data.




-aj
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Re: [Zope] Form-Through-Script

2007-08-13 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


I think you want:

form action=renumberTheCart(here/CheckOutAfterEditStuff)  
method=post enctype=multipart/form-data

td
form action=http://example.com/s/renumberTheCart; method=post
input type=hidden name=doc value= tal:attributes=value here/ 
CheckOutAfterEditStuff /

p metal:use-macro=here/CheckOutAfterEditStuff/macros/main /
/td

(my tal may be a bit off)


On Aug 13, 2007, at 4:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No, it should work the way it is...that is a URL I passed. I  
changed it to an absolute URL just to double-check, and got  
basically the same error:


Invalid request
The parameter, doc, was omitted from the request.

How do I pass the parameter, which in my case is quite long and  
stashed neatly away in a PT macro?


td tal:define=docs here/CheckOutAfterEditStuff
form action=http://example.com/s/renumberTheCart?doc=docs;  
method=post

p metal:use-macro=here/CheckOutAfterEditStuff/macros/main /
/td

TIA,
Tony

-Original Message-
From: Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope@zope.org
Sent: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Zope] Form-Through-Script


--On 13. August 2007 15:39:40 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi;
 I have a form that I need to send to a script and then send off  
to a URL
 (PayPal). I need to process it through the script to renumber  
things for

 PP. How do I do this? I imagine I add an element to the PT like so:

 form action=renumberTheCart(here/CheckOutAfterEditStuff)  
method=post


 but I need to pass a parameter doc, which, of course, is the  
document

 I'm submitting. So I tried this:

 form action=renumberTheCart(here/CheckOutAfterEditStuff)  
method=post

 p metal:use-macro=here/CheckOutAfterEditStuff/macros/main /

You might check out the basics about HTML forms first. The 'action'  
parameter is an URL and *not* some Python-like function call. You  
specify the destination URL inside the action attribute and pass  
the parameters as *hidden* form parameters to the URL - either  
using method GET or POST.


You'll find more on forms in any HTML tutorial. Start from here:

http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_forms.asp

-aj
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Re: [Zope] Logon process

2007-07-05 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for but you may want to  
check out the Cookie Crumbler product.

http://packages.debian.org/stable/source/zope-cookiecrumbler

On Jul 5, 2007, at 2:41 AM, Garito wrote:


Hi all!
I've developed a site that if you are not logged in renders in a  
way but if you are logged in renders in another way (with more  
functionality)


I would like to create a logon form and the validate the user in an  
AJAX way


Where can I read about it? Or where the acl_users code is located?

I would like to avoid the use of alternatives acl_users products if  
possible because I would like to store users on the ZODB normaly as  
original acl_users object do (I don't need ExUserFolder or similar  
if possible)


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Re: [Zope] Mac OS X Server StartupItem for Zope

2007-06-28 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


I've used Automator to create an app that I have as a startup item  
which restarts Zope on reboot. You could also use iCal for scheduling.


In Automator choose Automator under Library and then Run Shell  
Script and type in your script, save that as an Application then add  
it to your startup items.



On Jun 28, 2007, at 5:09 PM, cristopher pierson ewing wrote:


Hello,

I'm trying to get a startup item set up under OS X Server 10.4 on  
an Intel XServe box.  I'd like not to have to manually restart Zope  
every time a software update forces me to restart the machine.   
I've gotten the following written up, but it failed to run for some  
unspecified reason.


Here's the plist:

{
  Description = Zope Application Server;
  Provides= (Application Server);
  Uses= (Disks, NFS);
}

And the startup script:

#!/bin/sh

##
# Zope Application Server
##

. /etc/rc.common

ZOPE_APP_BASE=/path/to/zope/instances; export ZOPE_APP_BASE

StartService ()
{
ConsoleMessage Starting Zope Application Server
${ZOPE_APP_BASE}/mysite1/zopectl start
${ZOPE_APP_BASE}/mysite2/zopectl start
}

StopService ()
{
ConsoleMessage Stopping Zope Application Server
${ZOPE_APP_BASE}/mysite1/zopectl stop
${ZOPE_APP_BASE}/mysite2/zopectl stop
}

RestartService ()
{
ConsoleMessage Stopping Zope Application Server
${ZOPE_APP_BASE}/mysite1/zopectl restart
${ZOPE_APP_BASE}/mysite2/zopectl restart
}

I have multiple zope instances running, and need to start them all,  
and this is my attempt, but it doesn't work.


Anyone out there have a successful StartupItem script that I could  
model mine after?  Alternatively, anyone have any debugging  
experience on StartupItems and could point me at how to figure out  
more than 'it failed' (which is all the system log tells me)?


thanks in advance for any advice you all might have!

Cris


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Re: [Zope] Zope products that allows people to Add Comments to publications

2007-06-27 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


I've been using it for years without issue. Very easy to set up and  
configure. Currently have it running in a 2.9 *and* 2.10 instance.


On Jun 27, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Chris Withers wrote:


Andreas Jung wrote:

Forget Squishdot, it's unmaintained since 4 years.


Urm, excuse me, but that's just plain lies.

I actively maintain Squishdot.

The svn trunk works fine in Zope 2.9 and should be fine in Zope 2.10.

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] Zope products that allows people to Add Comments to publications

2007-06-25 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


check out http://www.squishdot.org

On Jun 25, 2007, at 3:00 PM, kamal hamzat wrote:


Hello,

Is there any zope product that allows visitors to Add Comments to  
the news / articles, just like the one in plone.


Thanks
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[Zope] RSS to HTML in Zope

2007-06-18 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Hi, Im still struggling to get an RSS feed converted to HTML in Zope  
using


Universal Feed Parser
http://www.feedparser.org/
+
This feedpaser setup
http://www.zope.org/Members/johntynan/feedparser

I'm able to get an RSS feed converted to what looks like a dictionary  
and view it, however it shows up as a rendered string on the page.  
Whenever I try to get any of the keys, no matter how, I've tried  
every possible scenario, I get an error back every time. Blah Blah  
is not callable..., You care not allowed to access blah Blah in  
this context., Value 0, etc...


I've also tried using the RSS Document in the XML Kit which ended up  
causing a runaway python method and took down Zope so I'd like to  
avoid using it. Half the time it gives back an error message anyway.


If anyone has a relatively easy way to convert an RSS feed to HTML in  
Zope I would greatly appreciate any feedback on how to set this up.  
Thanks in advance.

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[Zope] Dictionary Key Error from Parsed RSS

2007-06-15 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Hi everyone, I've used Universal Feed Parser to parse an RSS feed.  
Then used these instructions below to get the parsed data into Zope  
via an External Method. Everything seems to work fine except that I  
keep getting an error whenever I try to access a key from the  
returned data. The resulting data is returned as a dictionary and if  
I render it as is it works fine, however in both ZPT and DTML, when  
trying to access a key, for instance feed or href from the  
dictionary I'm prompted to login, which I'm unable to do with my  
admin login. After hitting cancel I get a Key Error that says You are  
not able to access 'href' (or whatever) in this context. Is there any  
way to somehow let Zope know that this data is 'ok'? Thanks in advance.


Pre-requisites
==

- Zope 2.5.x (developed and tested with Zope 2.5.1, but other minor  
versions should work as well)


- feedparser.py 3.0 (http://diveintomark.org/projects/feed_parser/)  
developed and tested with 3.0 beta 22, the latest version


Installation


1. Installing feedparser.py
---

1.1. Unzip the archive (preserving path names) into /Zopesite/bin/lib/

1.2. open a command prompt window and go to /Zopesite/bin/lib/ 
feedparser/


1.3. enter the command (sans quotes): '..\..\python setup.py install'

1.4. after installation, enter the command: '..\..\python  
feedparsertest.py'


1.5. wait for testing to complete. On my laptop, 2051 tests ran in  
118.481s


2. Installing the external method
-

2.1 place the newsfeed.py module in the /Zopesite/Extensions/ directory
2.2 Add an external method to your zope site with an id and Module of  
'newsfeed', and a function of 'parsefeed'


3. Installing the feed template
---

3.1 Add a Page template to your Zope site with the contents of the  
nprnews.pt Page Template


3.2 examine the generic template rendering of NPR News, all fields  
from the feed should be available.

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Re: [Zope] Dictionary Key Error from Parsed RSS

2007-06-15 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
dtml-let news=newsfeed(feedurl='http://www.modscape.com/blog/ 
rss.xml')


dtml-var news.feed.href

/dtml-let

gives:

Site Error

An error was encountered while publishing this resource.

Error Type: Unauthorized
Error Value: You are not allowed to access 'feed' in this context

Troubleshooting Suggestions

* The URL may be incorrect.
* The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.
* A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an  
error.


For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the  
error log.


If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you  
for your patience.


Traceback (innermost last):

* Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 115, in publish
* Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
* Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 41, in call_object
* Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 144, in __call__
  DTMLMethod at /feeds/nprnews.html
  URL: http://localhost:8080/feeds/nprnews.html/manage_main
  Physical Path:/feeds/nprnews.html
* Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 476, in __call__
* Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 76, in render
* Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 196, in eval
  __traceback_info__: news
* Module string, line 1, in expression

Unauthorized: You are not allowed to access 'feed' in this context



On Jun 15, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Jonathan wrote:



- Original Message - From: Tom Von Lahndorff  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: zope@zope.org
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:18 AM
Subject: [Zope] Dictionary Key Error from Parsed RSS


Hi everyone, I've used Universal Feed Parser to parse an RSS  
feed.  Then used these instructions below to get the parsed data  
into Zope  via an External Method. Everything seems to work fine  
except that I  keep getting an error whenever I try to access a  
key from the  returned data. The resulting data is returned as a  
dictionary and if  I render it as is it works fine, however in  
both ZPT and DTML, when  trying to access a key, for instance  
feed or href from the  dictionary I'm prompted to login, which  
I'm unable to do with my  admin login. After hitting cancel I get  
a Key Error that says You are  not able to access 'href' (or  
whatever) in this context. Is there any  way to somehow let Zope  
know that this data is 'ok'? Thanks in advance.


You should post the full Key Error message with traceback (from  
error_log in the root folder of the zmi).


Jonathan


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Re: [Zope] Dictionary Key Error from Parsed RSS

2007-06-15 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

shouldnt this prevent that?

def dictify(p):

Since the FeedParser returns a dictionary-like class instance,  
rather than
a real dictionary, We must iterate through all nested instances  
and convert
them to dicts to avoid security problems within Zope. I have no  
idea *why*

feedparser doesn't just use real nested dicts in the first place.

newdict = {}
if type(p) in [types.DictionaryType, types.InstanceType]:
d = p # for clarity
for k,v in d.items():
newdict[k] = dictify(v)
elif type(p) == types.ListType:
l = p # for clarity
for ss,v in zip(xrange(len(l)), l):
l[ss] = dictify(v)
return l
else: return p
return newdict


On Jun 15, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Andreas Jung wrote:




--On 15. Juni 2007 11:45:49 -0400 Tom Von Lahndorff  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


dtml-let news=newsfeed(feedurl='http://www.modscape.com/blog/ 
rss.xml')


dtml-var news.feed.href

/dtml-let

gives:

Site Error

An error was encountered while publishing this resource.

Error Type: Unauthorized
Error Value: You are not allowed to access 'feed' in this context



Likely because the module has no security assertions. All your  
stuff runs
under the conditions of Restricted Python. The standard Zope  
security applies.


-aj


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Re: [Zope] Dictionary Key Error from Parsed RSS

2007-06-15 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

Here's a snippet of the rendered RSS feed:

{'feed': {'subtitle': u'', 'links': [{'href': u'http:// 
www.modscape.com/blog', 'type': 'text/html', 'rel': 'alternate'}],  
'title': u'modscape.com Home', 'subtitle_detail': {'base': 'http:// 
www.modscape.com/blog/rss.xml', 'type': 'text/html', 'value': u'',  
'language': None}, 'title_detail': {'base': 'http://www.modscape.com/ 
blog/rss.xml', 'type': 'text/plain', 'value': u'modscape.com Home',  
'language': None}, 'link': u'http://www.modscape.com/blog'},  
'status': 200, 'updated': (2007, 6, 15, 16, 48, 28, 4, 166, 0),  
'version': 'rss20', 'encoding': 'iso-8859-15', 'bozo': 0, 'headers':  
{'content-length': '18486', 'via': '1.0 px04.bc.fw.cbs.net:80  
(squid)', 'x-cache': 'MISS from px04.bc.fw.cbs.net', 'x-powered-by':  
'Zope (www.zope.org), Python (www.python.org)', 'x-cache-lookup':  
'HIT from px04.bc.fw.cbs.net:80', 'expires': 'Fri, 15 Jun 2007  
17:48:28 GMT', 'server': 'Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) DAV/2 SVN/1.2.3  
mod_ssl/2.0.52 OpenSSL/0.9.7a PHP/5.1.2 mod_fastcgi/2.4.2', 'last- 
modified': 'Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:48:28 GMT', 'connection': 'close',  
'cache-control': 'max-age=3600', 'date': 'Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:48:28  
GMT', 'content-type': 'text/xml; charset=iso-8859-15'}, 'etag': None,  
'href': 'http://www.modscape.com/blog/rss.xml', 'namespaces': {},  
'entries': [{'updated': u'Mon, Sep 04 2006, 06:23PM',  
'updated_parsed': None, 'links': [{'href': u'http://www.modscape.com/ 
blog/index_html?showall=yes#id1157412223', 'type': 'text/html',  
'rel': 'alternate'}], 'title': u'Ubuntu: Linux For Human Beings',  
'summary_detail': {'base': 'http://www.modscape.com/blog/rss.xml',  
'type': 'text/html', 'value': u'img src=http://www.modscape.com/ 
blog/1157412223/ubuntu.jpg width=150 alt=ubuntu.jpg  
align=right hspace=10 /\n\nTom wrote:br /br /\n\na  
href=http://www.ubuntu.com/;Ubuntu/a is an easy


On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:

No idea what this method should tell use?! Your code uses  
news.feed.href...nothing's like that can be found here in the code.

We can not guess what this snippet is doing and where and why.

-aj

--On 15. Juni 2007 12:02:48 -0400 Tom Von Lahndorff  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



shouldnt this prevent that?

def dictify(p):
 
 Since the FeedParser returns a dictionary-like class instance,
rather than
 a real dictionary, We must iterate through all nested  
instances and

convert
 them to dicts to avoid security problems within Zope. I have  
no idea

*why*
 feedparser doesn't just use real nested dicts in the first  
place.

 
 newdict = {}
 if type(p) in [types.DictionaryType, types.InstanceType]:
 d = p # for clarity
 for k,v in d.items():
 newdict[k] = dictify(v)
 elif type(p) == types.ListType:
 l = p # for clarity
 for ss,v in zip(xrange(len(l)), l):
 l[ss] = dictify(v)
 return l
 else: return p
 return newdict


On Jun 15, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Andreas Jung wrote:




--On 15. Juni 2007 11:45:49 -0400 Tom Von Lahndorff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


dtml-let news=newsfeed(feedurl='http://www.modscape.com/blog/
rss.xml')

dtml-var news.feed.href

/dtml-let

gives:

Site Error

An error was encountered while publishing this resource.

Error Type: Unauthorized
Error Value: You are not allowed to access 'feed' in this context



Likely because the module has no security assertions. All your
stuff runs
under the conditions of Restricted Python. The standard Zope
security applies.

-aj




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Re: [Zope] Automatic Cataloging

2007-06-10 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


On Jun 10, 2007, at 2:49 AM, Andreas Jung wrote:




--On 9. Juni 2007 14:09:15 -0400 Tom Von Lahndorff  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi,

I have a zCatalog installed and I'm trying to automatically  
catalog an

object and it's properties using:

dtml-with manage_clone(base_business,newid,REQUEST)
dtml-call manage_changeProperties(
title=REQUEST['business_name'],
business_name=REQUEST['business_name'],
business_company=REQUEST['business_company'],
business_street=REQUEST['business_street'],
business_town=REQUEST['business_town'],
business_county=REQUEST['business_county'],
business_state=REQUEST['business_state'],
business_zipcode=REQUEST['business_zipcode'],
business_phone=REQUEST['business_phone'],
business_website=REQUEST['business_website'],
business_email=REQUEST['business_email'],
)
/dtml-with
dtml-call zCatalog.catalog_object(business_name,newid)



What a dirty code :-)

Such code should be written using a PythonScript:

newob = container.manage_clone(...)
newob.manage_changeProperties(REQUEST=context.REQUEST)
catalog.catalog_object(...)



im aware. humor me. :)





The zCatalog has indexes and metadata:
business_name
business_company
business_street
business_town
business_county
business_state
business_zipcode
business_phone
business_website
business_email

The object does get cataloged with the newid but none of the  
indexes or

metadata get updated.


Hard to believe...do you have properties defined for the particular  
object?


Yes. same names as whats listed above.



-aj



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[Zope] Automatic Cataloging

2007-06-09 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

Hi,

I have a zCatalog installed and I'm trying to automatically catalog  
an object and it's properties using:


dtml-with manage_clone(base_business,newid,REQUEST)
dtml-call manage_changeProperties(
title=REQUEST['business_name'],
business_name=REQUEST['business_name'],
business_company=REQUEST['business_company'],
business_street=REQUEST['business_street'],
business_town=REQUEST['business_town'],
business_county=REQUEST['business_county'],
business_state=REQUEST['business_state'],
business_zipcode=REQUEST['business_zipcode'],
business_phone=REQUEST['business_phone'],
business_website=REQUEST['business_website'],
business_email=REQUEST['business_email'],
)
/dtml-with
dtml-call zCatalog.catalog_object(business_name,newid)

The zCatalog has indexes and metadata:
business_name
business_company
business_street
business_town
business_county
business_state
business_zipcode
business_phone
business_website
business_email

The object does get cataloged with the newid but none of the  
indexes or metadata get updated.

Thanks in advance.

Tom

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[Zope] adding objects to a ZCatalog

2007-02-23 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

Hi,

I have a folder called images and a form that to add images to that 
folder. The form called an external method (../images/addImage) that 
references a python script, the one I sent earlier, that creates 4 
versions of the images in 4 sizes and places them in the images 
folder. Also in the images folder I have a ZCatalog called 
ImageData. I'm trying to add a line to the python script to 
automatically catalog any images that are added to the images folder. 
I tried ImageData.manage_catalogObject... but I kept getting back: 
NameError: global name 'ImageData' is not defined. Any advice? Thanks.


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Re: [Zope] adding objects to a ZCatalog

2007-02-23 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff



Peter Bengtsson wrote:

On 2/23/07, Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I have a folder called images and a form that to add images to that
folder. The form called an external method (../images/addImage) that
references a python script, the one I sent earlier, that creates 4
versions of the images in 4 sizes and places them in the images
folder. Also in the images folder I have a ZCatalog called
ImageData. I'm trying to add a line to the python script to
automatically catalog any images that are added to the images folder.
I tried ImageData.manage_catalogObject... but I kept getting back:
NameError: global name 'ImageData' is not defined. Any advice? Thanks.


Perhaps you meant
context.ImageData.manage_catalogObject(...


This is the complete script:

def makeImages(self, imagefile, newkeywords, newcaption, newsource):

   import PIL.Image, ImageEnhance, ImageFilter
   import PIL
   from StringIO import StringIO
   import os.path
   import datetime
   import time

   # create the data in a new PIL Image.
   image=PIL.Image.open(imagefile)
   image=image.convert('RGB')
   image=image.filter(ImageFilter.SHARPEN)
   image=image.resize((640, 480), PIL.Image.ANTIALIAS)
   image2=image.resize((320, 240), PIL.Image.ANTIALIAS)
   image3=image.resize((160, 120), PIL.Image.ANTIALIAS)
   image4=image.resize((80, 60), PIL.Image.ANTIALIAS)

   # get the data in memory.
   newimage_file=StringIO()
   image.save(newimage_file, JPEG)
   newimage_file.seek(0)
   newimage_file2=StringIO()
   image2.save(newimage_file2, JPEG)
   newimage_file2.seek(0)
   newimage_file3=StringIO()
   image3.save(newimage_file3, JPEG)
   newimage_file3.seek(0)
   newimage_file4=StringIO()
   image4.save(newimage_file4, JPEG)
   newimage_file4.seek(0)

   # create an id for the image
   now = datetime.datetime.now()
   newimageid=now.strftime('%Y%m%d%H%M%S')
   newimage_id=newimageid + '-640.jpg'
   newimage_id2=newimageid + '-320.jpg'
   newimage_id3=newimageid + '-160.jpg'
   newimage_id4=newimageid + '-80.jpg'

   # if there's an old image, delete it
   if newimage_id in self.objectIds():
   self.manage_delObjects([newimage_id])
   if newimage_id2 in self.objectIds():
   self.manage_delObjects([newimage_id2])
   if newimage_id3 in self.objectIds():
   self.manage_delObjects([newimage_id3])
   if newimage_id4 in self.objectIds():
   self.manage_delObjects([newimage_id4])

   # create the Zope image object for the new image
   self.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addImage(newimage_id, 
newimage_file, '')
   self.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addImage(newimage_id2, 
newimage_file2, '')
   self.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addImage(newimage_id3, 
newimage_file3, '')
   self.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addImage(newimage_id4, 
newimage_file4, '')


   # now find the new zope object so we can modify
   # its properties.
   newimage_image=getattr(self, newimage_id)
   newimage_image.manage_addProperty('keywords', '', 'string')
   newimage_image.manage_addProperty('caption', '', 'string')
   newimage_image.manage_addProperty('imageid', '', 'string')
   newimage_image.manage_changeProperties(keywords=newkeywords, 
caption=newcaption, imageid=newimageid, source=newsource)

   context.ImageData.manage_catalogObject(newimage_image, uid)
   newimage_image2=getattr(self, newimage_id2)
   newimage_image2.manage_addProperty('imagefile2', '', 'string')
   newimage_image3=getattr(self, newimage_id3)
   newimage_image3.manage_addProperty('imagefile3', '', 'string')
   newimage_image4=getattr(self, newimage_id4)
   newimage_image4.manage_addProperty('imagefile4', '', 'string')




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[Zope] Resizing an Image with PIL via a Form Upload

2007-02-22 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


I'm trying to resize an image uploaded from a form using PIL. I got it 
to work on an existing image but I can't seem to get it to work on an 
image that's uploaded through the form. The ID of the file I'm trying to 
upload is DSCF0004.jpg. The form, script and traceback are listed 
below. Thanks in advance.


form action=processed/imgSizer method=post 
enctype=multipart.form-data
input type=file name=original_id input type=submit 
name=submit value= Add 

/form

(imgSizer External Method)
1 def makeImages(self, original_id):
2 
3import PIL.Image

4import PIL
5from StringIO import StringIO
6import os.path
7
8original_image=getattr(self, original_id)
9original_file=StringIO(str(original_image.data))
...

returns:

Traceback (innermost last):

   * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 115, in publish
   * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
   * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 41, in call_object
   * Module Products.ExternalMethod.ExternalMethod, line 225, in __call__
 __traceback_info__: ((Folder at /dev/imgtest/processed,
 'DSCF0004.jpg'), {}, None)
   * Module .../Zope/Extensions/imgSizer.py, line 9, in makeImages

AttributeError: DSCF0004.jpg

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Re: [Zope] Resizing an Image with PIL via a Form Upload

2007-02-22 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Thanks for everyone's help. I got it to work, here's the script. It  
creates 4 images, enhances them and adds some properties to the  
largest one.


--

def makeImages(self, imagefile, newkeywords, newcaption):

import PIL.Image, ImageEnhance, ImageFilter
import PIL
from StringIO import StringIO
import os.path
import datetime
import time

# create the data in a new PIL Image.
image=PIL.Image.open(imagefile)
image=image.convert('RGB')
image=image.filter(ImageFilter.SHARPEN)
image=image.resize((640, 480), PIL.Image.ANTIALIAS)
image2=image.resize((320, 240), PIL.Image.ANTIALIAS)
image3=image.resize((160, 120), PIL.Image.ANTIALIAS)
image4=image.resize((80, 60), PIL.Image.ANTIALIAS)

# get the data in memory.
newimage_file=StringIO()
image.save(newimage_file, JPEG)
newimage_file.seek(0)
newimage_file2=StringIO()
image2.save(newimage_file2, JPEG)
newimage_file2.seek(0)
newimage_file3=StringIO()
image3.save(newimage_file3, JPEG)
newimage_file3.seek(0)
newimage_file4=StringIO()
image4.save(newimage_file4, JPEG)
newimage_file4.seek(0)

# create an id for the image
now = datetime.datetime.now()
newimageid=now.strftime('%Y%m%d%H%M%S')
newimage_id=newimageid + '-640.jpg'
newimage_id2=newimageid + '-320.jpg'
newimage_id3=newimageid + '-160.jpg'
newimage_id4=newimageid + '-80.jpg'

# if there's an old image, delete it
if newimage_id in self.objectIds():
self.manage_delObjects([newimage_id])
if newimage_id2 in self.objectIds():
self.manage_delObjects([newimage_id2])
if newimage_id3 in self.objectIds():
self.manage_delObjects([newimage_id3])
if newimage_id4 in self.objectIds():
self.manage_delObjects([newimage_id4])

# create the Zope image object for the new image
self.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addImage(newimage_id,  
newimage_file, '')
self.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addImage(newimage_id2,  
newimage_file2, '')
self.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addImage(newimage_id3,  
newimage_file3, '')
self.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addImage(newimage_id4,  
newimage_file4, '')


# now find the new zope object so we can modify
# its properties.
newimage_image=getattr(self, newimage_id)
newimage_image.manage_addProperty('keywords', '', 'string')
newimage_image.manage_addProperty('caption', '', 'string')
newimage_image.manage_addProperty('imageid', '', 'string')
newimage_image.manage_changeProperties(keywords=newkeywords,  
caption=newcaption, imageid=newimageid)

newimage_image2=getattr(self, newimage_id2)
newimage_image2.manage_addProperty('imagefile2', '', 'string')
newimage_image3=getattr(self, newimage_id3)
newimage_image3.manage_addProperty('imagefile3', '', 'string')
newimage_image4=getattr(self, newimage_id4)
newimage_image4.manage_addProperty('imagefile4', '', 'string')

--

On Feb 22, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Andrew Langmead wrote:


On Feb 22, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote:


8original_image=getattr(self, original_id)
9original_file=StringIO(str(original_image.data))

[and later]

AttributeError: DSCF0004.jpg


I think your line numbers are off by one, because I'd think it is  
the getattr that would be causing the Attribute Error (at most,  
line 9 could give an attribute error for something called data.


Zope turns file upload objects into   
ZPublisher.HTTPRequest.FileUpload instances. and pass them to your  
method. FileUpload instances have an interface similar to python  
file objects, you can .read(), .seek(), .close() or do whatever you  
want to them and might not need to wrap the contents into a  
StringIO object first. (your trying to fetch the file as an  
attribute of self seems to imply that you think the form data is  
already uploaded into zope and is an Image object in a folder. It  
isn't there yet, and won't be unless you store it there.)


I think if you removed lines 8 and 9 (by your numbering) and  
renamed the second argument to the method to original_file,  
things would work as you need:


1 def makeImages(self, original_file):
2
3import PIL.Image
4import PIL
5import os.path
6
...





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[Zope] LocalFS1.7rc1 with Zope 2.10.1

2006-12-28 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Im unable to install LocalFS 1.7rc1 into a Zope 2.10.1 instance. I place 
the folder in the Products directory but upon restart nothing shows up 
in Zope. Any ideas as to what may be causing the problem or any 
suggestions for an alternative product for accessing filesystem files in 
Zope? IM not getting any error message, it just doesnt show up in the 
list of installed products or the add menu.


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Re: [Zope] LocalFS1.7rc1 with Zope 2.10.1

2006-12-28 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

Thanks! worked.

Andreas Jung wrote:

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- --On 28. Dezember 2006 12:50:39 -0500 Tom Von Lahndorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


  

Im unable to install LocalFS 1.7rc1 into a Zope 2.10.1 instance. I place
the folder in the Products directory but upon restart nothing shows up in
Zope. Any ideas as to what may be causing the problem or any suggestions
for an alternative product for accessing filesystem files in Zope? IM not
getting any error message, it just doesnt show up in the list of
installed products or the add menu.





Running Zope in debug mode will tell you:

2006-12-28 19:06:58 ERROR Application Could not import Products.LocalFS
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, 
line 703, in import_product

product=__import__(pname, global_dict, global_dict, silly)
  File 
/Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/Products/LocalFS/__init__.py, 
line 44, in ?

import os, LocalFS
  File 
/Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/Products/LocalFS/LocalFS.py, 
line 52, in ?

from OFS.content_types import find_binary
ImportError: cannot import name find_binary
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py, 
line 56, in ?

run()
  File 
/Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py, 
line 21, in run

starter.prepare()
  File 
/Users/ajung/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/__init__.py, 
line 102, in prepare

self.startZope()
  File 
/Users/ajung/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/__init__.py, 
line 278, in startZope

Zope2.startup()
  File 
/Users/ajung/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/Zope2/__init__.py, line 
47, in startup

_startup()
  File 
/Users/ajung/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/Zope2/App/startup.py, 
line 45, in startup

OFS.Application.import_products()
  File 
/Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, 
line 680, in import_products

import_product(product_dir, product_name, raise_exc=debug_mode)
  File 
/Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, 
line 703, in import_product

product=__import__(pname, global_dict, global_dict, silly)
  File 
/Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/Products/LocalFS/__init__.py, 
line 44, in ?

import os, LocalFS
  File 
/Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope-2.10/Zope/lib/python/Products/LocalFS/LocalFS.py, 
line 52, in ?

from OFS.content_types import find_binary


Try to adjust the code to use zope.contenttype

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[Zope] Zope on Mac OS X Server

2006-11-17 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
Hi I'm having trouble setting redirecting port 80 to port 8080 on Mac OS 
X Server 10.4. I installed Zope via the Plone installer and have a an 
Instance running in the Applications folder. I can access the ZMI on 
port 8080 via the machines IP address, but I can't seem to get the 
Apache rewrite rule to work as shown in the various documentation. I'm 
curious if anyone has done this before and/or has used OS X Server's 
Server Admin tool to create an alias or redirect from port 80 to 8080. 
Thanks in advance.


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Re: [ZWeb] wiki skin

2006-10-30 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


On Oct 29, 2006, at 10:29 PM, Simon Michael wrote:


Chris Withers wrote:
Is it going to move to the great new style that's been used for  
the Zope 3 wiki?


Chris - I have several thoughts on that which I wanted to air -

I took some time to get used to the new skin. I like it a lot -  
great work Kevin (and Tom).


(In fact I'd like to include a generic version in Zwiki as a wiki  
template - are the authors ok with this ? I will make it as  
different as you think necessary to avoid confusion with the zope  
wikis.)


fine with me. :)



I'm also quite fond of the basic Zwiki skin, which is adapted to my  
needs. For jumping around between many wikis, many pages, and doing  
serious wiki gardening, I find it less distracting, also the page  
hierarchy is clearer. For some people it will also be faster. So I  
wanted to leave it in place for at least a few days to give people  
a chance to see how it works for browsing these wikis.


I also like that big Zope planet floating in the background of the  
zope2 wiki. The sense of wide-open spaciousness. And I like that  
it's visually distinct from the zope3 wiki, so you know at a glance  
where you are.


I have been guessing the consensus will be to use the new skin  
across all the wikis, though. But I think we definitely need some  
way to differentiate them.


I'll see if I can come up with something.



Just now, motivated by Martijn's talk at DZUG (recommended!) I  
started to move the templates from /zope3 up to the root folder,  
then I realized the skin has zope3 wiki stuff hard-coded. So some  
more work is needed before the skin can be reused. Kevin, I wonder  
what your thoughts/plans are (feel free to try them out).


Comments ?

-Simon

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Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-16 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Ill look into it.

On Oct 15, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Andrew Sawyers wrote:


On 10/14/06 2:12 PM, Michael Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 23:37 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote:

See:  foundation.zope.org

This is using Darryl's magic.  It was painful to get such a beast  
of RH 9
working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it.  Thanks  
Darryl and

David from ZC.

I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary  
pieces from

Darryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn.


Great work! Very classy looking, and well organized.

Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width of  
the
'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is  
causing the
grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these  
pages,

instead of lining up with the to header watermark.

This was observed with Firefox 1.5.

- Michael Bernstein



Yeah, this happens to me as well.  I'm cc'ing Tom to see if he  
might have

some fixes in mind...

Andrew Sawyers



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Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-16 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Im noticing that the pages of the Foundation website are pages within  
pages. Meaning entire pages including the doctype, body and head tags  
were pasted within the site wrapper. These secondary doctype body and  
head tags should be removed.


On Oct 15, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Andrew Sawyers wrote:


On 10/14/06 2:12 PM, Michael Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 23:37 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote:

See:  foundation.zope.org

This is using Darryl's magic.  It was painful to get such a beast  
of RH 9
working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it.  Thanks  
Darryl and

David from ZC.

I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary  
pieces from

Darryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn.


Great work! Very classy looking, and well organized.

Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width of  
the
'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is  
causing the
grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these  
pages,

instead of lining up with the to header watermark.

This was observed with Firefox 1.5.

- Michael Bernstein



Yeah, this happens to me as well.  I'm cc'ing Tom to see if he  
might have

some fixes in mind...

Andrew Sawyers



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Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-16 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Also noticed the Committer Member links goes to a broken page.
http://foundation.zope.org/members/committer_members.html


On Oct 16, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote:



Ill look into it.

On Oct 15, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Andrew Sawyers wrote:


On 10/14/06 2:12 PM, Michael Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 23:37 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote:

See:  foundation.zope.org

This is using Darryl's magic.  It was painful to get such a  
beast of RH 9
working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it.  Thanks  
Darryl and

David from ZC.

I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary  
pieces from

Darryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn.


Great work! Very classy looking, and well organized.

Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width  
of the
'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is  
causing the
grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these  
pages,

instead of lining up with the to header watermark.

This was observed with Firefox 1.5.

- Michael Bernstein



Yeah, this happens to me as well.  I'm cc'ing Tom to see if he  
might have

some fixes in mind...

Andrew Sawyers



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Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site

2006-10-16 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

It should be:

.columntwo {
display: block;
position: absolute;
top: 0px;
left: 150px;
right: 0px;
}


On Oct 16, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Sawyers wrote:


All kinds of weird behavior with that under Firefox on my Mac.
Paste me the entire class definition for .columntwo

Andrew


On 10/16/06 2:51 PM, Darryl Cousins [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 15:25 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote:
I don't see a rightcolumn class in Foundation stuffmaybe  
missing the

obvious though.

A



Hi Andrew,

This works for me (Firefox 1.5.0.4 - haven't tested IE, but should be
ok):

Replace:

.columntwo {
display: block;
position: absolute;
top: 0px;
left: 150px;
...

With:

.columntwo {
display: block;
position: absolute;
top: 0px;
right: 0px; /* changed from left */
margin-left: 150px; /* added */
...

Regards,
Darryl




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Re: [ZWeb] Zope Foundation Design 1 Version2

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

+1

On Sep 5, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote:


I prefer the fluid layout from a visual perspective, and the fixed,
from a usability/readablity persepctive. Hence, I don't are which you
choose. :)

Stop bickering and Just Do It (tm). ;)


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Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


semi-stretchable

Would be nice if IE supported min-width and max-width in css. It  
doesn't. The only way I've seen anyone get that to work in IE is with  
some nasty javascript hack. We can keep going down this road though,  
fine with me. We'll be here for literally weeks and months going  
through all of the pros and cons of fixed vs. fluid layouts that have  
been debated for years. There is no right answer.


p.s. Lennart, 1600 wide? Are you serious? Regardless of monitor size,  
do you actually leave your browser window open to that size? In all  
the stats I've seen 1600 represents 0% to 1% of users and I'd imagine  
most sites look like shit at that size (in the rare case, I'd  
imagine, that the user has the browser set to full screen).


p.p.s. I will be working on the Linux rendering issues which is  
actually a good example of the real challenges with web design.  
Getting a standards based site to look good on IE an Firefox on a PC  
is a (nightmarish at times) challenge alone (mostly thanks to IE's  
lack of standards support). Getting it to work on every browser on  
every OS and look good is a boatload of work. My focus is to do just  
that while keeping the html and css *clean* and free of hacks and  
javascript as much as possible. Also, keeping the html reusable to  
easily implement future design changes and as maintenance free as  
possible.


p.p.p.s. Jens hit the nail on the head. Believe it or not, but 800 x  
600 still represents ~20% of users and I'd rather not have them have  
to scroll horizontally to get to content. Thats *way* worse than  
having extra space on the sides.


Really, guys, what all of this boils down to is that with all of the  
various browsers, OSs, screen resolutions, javascript support etc.  
there can be no one size fits them all answer. Designing a good site  
is about getting to work as well as possible for the majority of  
users, but at the end of the day, no matter what, some users are not  
going to like it. It annoys me that digg.com is fixed for 1024  
because when I have my bookmarks sidebar open in Firefox I have to  
scroll horizontally or close my bookmarks. Great site though and I go  
to it every day. It bugs me that cnn.com has inconsistent navigation  
throughout the site. I go to cnn.com for news all the time. Although  
these features annoy me I'm sure they have valid reasons for doing  
them and they don't prevent me from using the site.


Right now the biggest problem that Zope, zope.org as well as other  
zope products/properties suffers from is useability and marketing.  
The least of any problems is what color the sites are, whether the  
pages are fluid or fixed width or whatever. The real problem is that  
no knows what Zope is, how it works or how to use the sites. I've  
been using Zope and zope.org for like 7 or 8 years now and you know  
what, I have no clue how to add content to my page on zope.org and to  
upload any of the interesting products or skins Ive created. Thats a  
problem when people within the community can't figure stuff out,  
forget newcomers. Zope is better than PHP or Ruby on Rails but is  
getting it's a$$ kicked every single day by them because of just this  
kind of stuff. At this point it's a game of catch up for Zope and for  
any of these projects to get stalled because a website looks like  
shit on a 1600 pixel wide monitor is just insane.


Lets get past these basic design issues, get a test site up and  
running and start getting our hands dirty. Lets implement the html  
and css and then get down to brass tacks and start the *real* work of  
editorializing the content so that it's understandable to newcomers  
as well as veterans, making content easily accessible and clearly  
labeled, providing easy to use interfaces and functionality. Keep  
this in mind too, that a many times a decision as to whether or not  
to use Zope for a particular project, *cough* *especially for large  
scale projects* *cough* (trust me, I know), will be greatly  
influenced by some non-technical people. If they can't go to a site  
and at least get a basic idea of the strengths of the product and  
feel comfortable with the marketing of that product they'll forget  
about it in 2 seconds. Its the details of this site that are much  
more important at the end of the day than how wide the margins of the  
page are.



On Sep 4, 2006, at 5:08 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:


Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 4 Sep 2006, at 10:26, Martijn Faassen wrote:
  o Trading in having the space on the sides for less  
control over all page layouts. I'm going for functional control  
in this case over a prettier layout.
  o The current page is laid out to work on 800 x 600  
and above. Most people will view the site at 1024 x 786 or 800 x  
600 and not see large gaps on the side.


Is 800x600 that common these days?
It is very common to have users who will see scrollbars with fixed 

[ZWeb] Zope Foundation Design 1 Version2

2006-09-04 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


http://www.modscape.com/zope

Please let me know of any bugs and what your browsers/os setup is.

Zope Foundation
Design 1, Version 2

* Changed the layout from fixed to fluid. Right column expands  
and contracts based on browser window size. This means that any right  
column content must be fluid as well and work in various browser  
window sizes. For instance, ample space will need to be given to any  
floated images within text areas to prevent overlapping on larger  
browser windows.

* Fixed overlapping nav text bug in Firefox/Linux.
* Updated the logo in the upper left to be include the Zope logo  
and font (now image based).

* Tested in Firefox/Mac, Opera/Mac, Safari/Mac, Firefox/Linux.
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[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-09-02 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


http://www.modscape.com/zope

Please let me know of any bugs and what your browsers/os setup is.

Zope Foundation
Design 1, Version 1

* Try the nav.
* Updated the colors of the nav to make it stand out more.
* Added the extras box to the top right hand side of the main  
column.

* Not going to make a fluid layout because:
  o Trading in having the space on the sides for less  
control over all page layouts. I'm going for functional control in  
this case over a prettier layout.
  o The current page is laid out to work on 800 x 600 and  
above. Most people will view the site at 1024 x 786 or 800 x 600 and  
not see large gaps on the side.
  o The simple nature of the site means a thinner page is  
more appropriate. Most of the content will be text that is easier to  
read the less wide the page is. This is not some multi column news  
site that has multiple content boxes.

* Not going to add a top navigation because:
  o Its inconsistent. The navigation should be in one place.  
period. I find Plone to be confusing and annoying in it's use of  
seperate nav areas. 2 Navs will cause confusion on the front and back  
end of things. Im sticking with a standard left hand navigation based  
on an unordered list that will make sense normally, without a  
stylesheet, on text readers, mobile browsers...





On Aug 28, 2006, at 7:09 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:


Tom Von Lahndorff wrote:

http://modscape.com/zope
New Foundation page. Try the nav. Only tested on Firefox/Mac so  
far.


Looks nice. Some comments:

* I get text flowing into each other in the sidebar. About The  
Foundation overlaps whatever is on the next line, with the word  
Foundation on the next line. There's another such instance lower  
down, where it says Foundation..Projects? (can't read).


This is on firefox 1.5 on linux.

Here's my feedback. Some of it is echoing Chris' feedback except I  
am being more constructive about it. Please don't give up! My main  
aim is to try to get some aspects of what I liked in version 3,  
which I think is good for a homepage design, into the sub-page design.


* I think it would be nicer with the margins somewhat smaller. I  
also liked version 3's smaller marging and background color. You  
changed the texture here but with a small marging I like the other.


* It would be nice to have optional sidebar boxes on the right,  
like they are in design 3. Could you create a page with such a box  
in it?


* I think a list of links on the top, layouted much like the menu  
in version 3, but without dropdowns, would be useful to have. We  
could use it to navigate between major sections on a site.


* I'm wondering whether we can do something slightly more exciting  
with the colors of the navigation sidebar on the left. I liked the  
use of blue in version 3, but now the blue has mostly gone into the  
margins. More functional blue, perhaps?


Regards,

Martijn


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Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Here we go again.

Step 1. Propose a project to the Zope community.
Step 2. Plone sucks / Plone is great battle begins, everyone  
complains about what they dont like.

Step 3. No actual work ever gets done.
Step 4. Repeat in 6 months.


On Aug 28, 2006, at 5:24 AM, Chris Withers wrote:


Tom Von Lahndorff wrote:

http://modscape.com/zope
New Foundation page. Try the nav. Only tested on Firefox/Mac so  
far.


Personally, I hate sites that leave whacking great margins either  
ide of the actual content.


Not sure about the colours or shadows either.

And the left nav doesn't feel like a left nav to me, just seems  
like some entries vanish when you click on other entries :-S


So far, version 3 of design 1 is still my favourite...

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Re: [ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Sorry Chris, I didnt mean to harsh on you. That was meant in fun as  
much as it is in truth.


I dont mind any negative feedback, but what Im looking for more like:

- What content do we need and where should it go.
- Suggestions for better functionality (like the title bars of a  
table should be clickable to rank items by that criteria).

- This page blows up in my browser or the nav doesnt work.
- Suggestions for homepage content (News and updates RSS Feeds,  
Testmonials...).

- Editing of text if some information is too wordy or confusing.
- Site structure and content boxes, wireframes.

Im trying to avoid things like:

- I dont like that color. (Unless its really nasty this is 100%  
subjective)
- Fixed width vs. Fluid layouts. (This debate has been around since  
tables. We need to just pick one. For every person that doesnt like  
the space on the side of the page with fixed width there will be  
another person who doesnt like the extra white space at the bottom of  
every page on fluid width layout)
- Anything thats really subjective issue that can be debated ad  
infinitum.


Im trying to avoid design by committee. Ive worked on like hundreds  
of TV and Radio websites and basically they all look a$$. This is  
because everyone from the morning show host to the general manager to  
the salespeople all b!tch and moan until they get what they want and  
the end product is hideous frankensite. I dont think that would  
happen here but I want put down the hammer anywhere I see it start to  
creep in.


The big difference here as well is that the site will be built on  
Zope! This means was can all tweak it to our hearts content because  
it's built smart, on a flexible and scalable backend. Instead of  
trying to get something *great* out of the box, lets get up a *good*  
site and go from there and make it great. Lets get it up and running  
and functioning and focus on the content wrapped a good and nice  
design and go from there...


I want to keep momentum on this.


On Aug 28, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Chris Withers wrote:


Tom Von Lahndorff wrote:

Here we go again.
Step 1. Propose a project to the Zope community.
Step 2. Plone sucks / Plone is great battle begins, everyone  
complains about what they dont like.

Step 3. No actual work ever gets done.
Step 4. Repeat in 6 months.


Er, Tom, you asked for feedback...

I *like* version 3 of design 1.

I *really* like all the work you've put in to this.

Given a choice between the latest design going in and nothing  
happening,  I'd choose the latest design any day of the week.


Given the choice betwen the latest design and version 3 of design  
one, I'd choose version 3 of design 1.


I'm sorry not all feedback is positive, but if you don't want it,  
don't ask for it...


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[ZWeb] Re: website design discussion

2006-08-26 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


http://modscape.com/zope

New Foundation page. Try the nav. Only tested on Firefox/Mac so far.
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Re: [ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-25 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


Working on it. :)

On Aug 25, 2006, at 6:59 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:


Tom Von Lahndorff wrote:
Yeah, thats the problem. Because IE6 doesnt fully support the  
hover function in CSS you need a javascript 'hack' to get a flyout  
to work. It actually a very small and clean script, but an IE hack  
nonetheless. More info here:

http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/
I think we could have submenus display under the menu item once a  
section is clicked, but until IE gets it together (Im not reading  
too many promising reviews of IE7) we should probably avoid any  
'IE hacks'.


Instead of worrying about the drop-downs too much, I'd really like  
to see a template that uses a fairly standard left-hand-side  
navigation (perhaps with major categories on the top).  
www.plone.org uses this pattern, for instance.


Regards,

Martijn


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[ZWeb] Re: volunteers wanted! zope foundation website as guinea pig

2006-08-22 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


I'm here. I'll tweak the design per the suggestions below and send it  
out. I actually worked on another one since then. Ill send that out  
as well.



On Aug 22, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote:


Hi there,

It's nearing september, and I'd like to start some work on  
zope.org, in particular www.zope.org/foundation. I'm looking for  
volunteers to help.


As you all probably know, we have a Zope Foundation, of which I'm a  
board member (representative for the committer members). Aroldo  
Souza-Leite is also on the board as chairman.


Aroldo and I are the board members responsible for the zope.org  
website committee. The task of the zope.org committee is to improve  
the zope.org web presence. Aroldo and I won't be doing the work or  
decision making alone, but since we have the backing of the  
foundation, we can make decisions stick. Volunteers are welcome to  
join this committee!


One of the first tasks at hand is to improve the presence of the  
Zope Foundation on the web. We currently have a section here:


http://www.zope.org/foundation

This website doesn't look very pretty at all. My proposal is to  
reorganize it, have some introductory text, put in links to  
relevant information resources, such as mailing lists (including  
this one), and to stick a nice layout around it.


This project will serve two purposes:

* to create a nice website for the foundation.

* serve as an example and test case for the wider zope.org renewal  
project.


So, please help us out.

Layout
--

I propose we use Tom Von Lahndorff's design for the foundation  
website. For the purposes of the foundation site we should strip it  
down:


* no login necessary

* no search (unless we integrate google-based search, perhaps)

* possibly no drop-down menus at the top. We could simply have  
links there, or possibly a standard left-hand side navigation. This  
design is the top page; we need to see a sub-page design as well.


Tom, are you still there? This time we're going to use what you  
made quickly, if you're willing!


Structure and text
--

Aroldo and I (Aroldo, I'm volunteering you :) are willing to work  
on a bunch of restructured text documents that introduce the zope  
foundation and set up the site structure.


Technology
--

I've said this before, and I'll just repeat it again: let's try to  
avoid technology discussions as much as we can. Most of us,  
including myself, are techies, so it's attractive to do this, but  
we just want to put a website up. This doesn't require any new  
technology, nor does it require a heavy-duty CMS.


To break my own rule on no technology discussions right way:

I propose letting www.zope.org/foundation point to a Apache  
directory, where we maintain HTML files. We will then generate such  
HTML files from restructured text we maintain in the zope SVN  
repository, using a simple script that drives docutils.


If you want examples of websites that are managed this way and I  
have personal experience with, check out the following places on  
codespeak:


http://codespeak.net/z3/

http://codespeak.net/lxml/

Since we're not aiming for a big site, this should be sufficient  
technology.


For the larger zope.org, we may need something else, or we may not.  
Let's treat the foundation website as a trial case here too, and  
see how we like it.


There's one alternative to this approach that will also work on the  
short term: a volunteer that's willing to work with zope.org and  
integrate the layout and text and structure we want into existing  
zope.org infrastructure. If someone volunteers to work on this, I'd  
be happy to do it that way as well. Does anyone volunteer?


Any other technological approaches require more setup and I'd like  
to defer them for the time being. We can take them up when we  
tackle zope.org proper.


I hope we can all have this together in a couple of weeks, so let's  
start working!


Regards,

Martijn


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Re: [ZWeb] V3 Updated

2006-03-26 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:06 AM, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:


Chris Withers wrote:
 Tom Von Lahndorff wrote:

 http://www.modscape.com/zope/v3/products_html

 Added a products page. Linked from the nav.

 Damn. This really is very good. Would there be any problem with just
 replacing the main_template and Products page on Zope.rog with  
this design?



I already proposed to setup his design as an alternative skin in  
zope.org for *testing* with the current content to Tom - he did not  
comment on that.


Sounds good to me, what do I need to do? I'm happy to edit/create ZPT  
as necessary.




Nevertheless, even if we could use it as suggested, we'd need to  
make some changes (right column should be removed or replaced on  
non-Frontpage pages), styles should be defined along the current  
stylesheet, ...


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[ZWeb] V3 Updated

2006-03-25 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff

http://www.modscape.com/zope/v3/products_html

Added a products page. Linked from the nav.
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Re: [ZWeb] V3 Updated

2006-03-23 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff



- I think fly out menus on Web pages just don't Feel Good (not to
  mention the debatable usability problems they might introduce[2]).


See Mike D.'s comments on that article which pretty  much sums up my 
rationale and implementation.


Still not convinced, but that's just me. We don't have such a deep 
structure or information density, I would simply put a context navigation 
on the left (or right) for each section but not on the homepage, like on 
this two pages:


http://www.mozilla.org/support/
http://www.mozilla.org/about/

Very simple.


Not really. Just the opposite actually, confusing. My design is certainly 
more simple than mozilla's. Inconsistent page layout. I like sites that 
have a consistent layout throughout, including the homepage. It's confusing 
when the navigation changes on a page by page basis. In my case there's no 
scheme that the user has to *get*.





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[ZWeb] V3 Updated

2006-03-22 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff


http://www.modscape.com/zope

03/22/06. Updated the homepage. Added the Zope 3 box. Created a  
download page. Click on Download Zope under Download in the nav.


Thanks for all of the comments. Keep 'em coming. A couple of people  
had mentioned the background was a bit dark so I've lightened it. It  
seems though that people are pretty happy with the general look and  
feel of the layout. I'd like to start drilling down into content at  
this point and this where I'll really need people's feedback,  
especially editorially. I want to try and keep the content simple and  
not make the assumption that visitors know what Zope is and what it  
does.


I was also thinking that there should be a discussion board on the  
site like Apple's support boards. Many of the support questions  
answered on Apple's boards are from other customers. It's a nice one  
stop shop for questions and answers for those who may not want to  
subscribe to mailing list. It would be nice to have that option.

http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa
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Re: [ZWeb] Version 3

2006-03-20 Thread Tom Von Lahndorff
About printing. The CSS for printable pages has not been added yet. The 
pages will be printer freindly (inluding menus).


- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Brad Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: zope-web@zope.org
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [ZWeb] Version 3





---
I have bigger questions though.

1. Does the page print well?

Dunno, a print css would solve this easily.


2. Is the site to represent -both- Zope2 and Zope3, or just Zope3?
Wit mentions of Plone, CMF and Zope Products on the drop-down menus,
it seems to be targeted at Zope2.

It has always been in my scope of trying to direct this to focus on Zope
the technology, not a specific zope version.


3. On those drop-down menus, lose the constant prefix Zope.  For
example, under Business, we don't need Zope Training, just
Training.

Drop down menus are placeholders - there is actually structre in svn we
are going to be using on the live site.


4. Re the copyright at the bottom - shouldn't that be Zope Foundation 
instead?\

There is no Zope Foundation yet.  Suppose it likely should be when it is
formed.


5. I like the drop-down menus, although they won't print.

Do we care?  Can this be handled in css?




Andrew

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