[Zope-dev] ping

2001-07-02 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.org Product Release

2001-05-13 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Hi,

It's much easier for me to see this if you send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You are still having this problem?  Do you get a traceback of any kind?

--On 05/09/01 10:18:02 +1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] chiseled:
 I'm trying to upload a .zexp to a product release (Add Product Release)
 and it's not working. The export is only 57k, but all I get is zope.org
 not responding...

 Any hints? Should I upload something other than a zexp?

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[Zope] zope.org downtime

2001-01-31 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas,

Zope.org has suffered a disk failure that evidently our raid array did not 
correctly recover from.

We should be back up shortly in "degraded" mode.

I am going to be working on changing things around so that the zeo clients 
to continue operating in read-only mode even if the storage/ staging server 
goes down.

Once replicated storage comes about, this single point of failure will go 
away.

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Re: [Zope] Postgresql Query.

2001-01-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

--On Wednesday, January 17, 2001 04:33:25 PM +1000 Andrew Kenneth Milton 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Normally, I would tell you to visit;

 http://www.zope.org/Documentation/

 but, some monkey has designed the interface w/o actually testing it,
 since there's no direct references to the online ZSQL Reference there
 any more, and the online dtml reference shoves you into dtml-var.

Monkey fix! bannana?

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Re: [Zope] ZWiki -- MS Word

2001-01-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

--On Tuesday, January 16, 2001 08:10:11 AM -0500 Frank McGeough 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 More than Word I would really like something that would convert the wiki
 into a Windows help file.

well, wikis render as html, and there's lots of things that let you convert 
web to help (which is just a degraded html anyway). Here's the first link 
google sent me:

http://www.webtwin.com/

Hope that helps,
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Re: [Zope] Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 comments

2001-01-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

--On Wednesday, January 17, 2001 08:32:34 AM -0500 Jens Vagelpohl 
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 i had the intermittent "browser displays the CSS text and not the real
 page" in another situation go away by expressly setting the content type
 in the linked CSS file. the first line would become...

 dtml-call "RESPONSE.setHeader('Content-Type','text/css')"

Note that this isn't a "cure all": it is still possible to get a buffer 
overflow that causes netscape to spew its garbage into the browser, IIRC.

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Re: [Zope] exporting zope

2001-01-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen



--On Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:50:12 AM +0100 Tom Deprez 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm looking for the products who can make plain html-files from zope
 folders. Unfortunately, I can't find them anymore on the zope.org site.
 Probably I missed them, but are there people who know the names of these
 products/tools, for easier finding. Are there people who have experience
 with some of them. (good, bad).


http://www.zope.org/Members/rossl/ZMirror

Claims to do what you want. All the tools that do things like this are in 
the "External Access" category.

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Re: [Zope] How do I get the size of an item ?

2001-01-11 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Dimitris Andrakakis wrote:
 
 ...anyone ?
 
 Say I have these folders:
 /
 /news
 /news/files
 What I need is, from a dtml method in /news, to get
 the size of an object (a file, say /news/files/file01.pdf)
 in /news/files.

dtml-with files
dtml-var "_.get_size(_['file01.pdf'])"
/dtml-with

should do the trick.
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Re: [Zope] Downloading All Zope products

2001-01-11 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Jerome Alet wrote:

 I've decided to do something to solve this problem, so I've created the
 "Zope Complete Products List for easy batch download".
 
 You can find it at http://www.zope.org/Members/jerome/ZCPL
 
 This document dynamically lists all available Zope products (from
 zope.org) and for every product put one and a single link to its latest
 version archive.

This is not a dreadful thing, but how is it different from:

http://www.zope.org/Products/all_products?batch_size%3Aint%3Arequired=265

 It also explains how to download all Zope products available in
 one Wget run, but please consider not making this an habit because the DC
 folks don't seem to like that (see http://www.zope.org/robots.txt).

What I don't like is people using wget to suck the entire site and then
hitting (for example) the "tree" version of the Zope Quick Reference and
expanding *every single node*.

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Re: [Zope] Disabling Services : WebDAV

2000-12-08 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Chris Withers wrote:


 Great :-(
 
 Any other way to turn WebDAV off? Not sure about Zopes supprot and not
 sure if I like the protocol on production servers anyway ;-)

As I'm sure someone has explained, WebDAV is just HTTP on crack.  HTTP 
requests go like so:

GET / HTTP/1.0

Webdav requests are *exactly the same* except sometimes it has something 
in lieu of 'GET'.

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Re: [Zope] Cataloguing on zope.org

2000-12-06 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Andy McKay wrote:

 I've had quite a few things waiting in the catalog, is anything happening
 there?


Sorry, I handed this off to Andrew, but forgot to give him the Reviewer 
role.  Fixed now.

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[Zope] zope.org down, my fault

2000-12-04 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas:

Never try to scp a file onto itself. Especially if it's your httpd.conf.

I'll be back up in a bit.

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Re: [Zope] Does 2.2.4 solve Proxy+ZCatalog bugs?

2000-11-29 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Marcin Kasperski wrote:

 The question as in the title. In changes for 2.2.3 I found:
 
- Resolved known condition in the Catalog where objects are
  not guaranteed to be unindexed before indexing happens
  again.  Now objects are guaranteed to be unindexed correctly
  first.  This should resolve all outstanding KeyErrors with
  Catalog, although currently broken Catalogs will require a
  reindex to resolve them. 
 
 Has anyone verified whether this in fact corrects the infamous ZCatalog
 key errors when one tried to reindex site proxied with Apache?
 
   Regards


Zope.org has been updated to 2.2.4 and we're still getting key errors.  
However, the current suspicion is that one of our products isn't playing 
nice with the catalog.  More information when we get it.

Thanks,

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[Zope] DC and the PTK?

2000-11-29 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Dennis Nichols wrote:

 At 11/28/00 11:34 AM, albert boulanger wrote:
 
 Whether to go with portal products from Plumtree or iPlanet.
 
 
 If this implies that you are considering using Zope's PTK, then you 
 should  be aware of this: You can *not* get commercial support from 
 Digital  Creations for PTK because PTK is not a released product. If 
 you think you  may need such support before PTK gets to 1.0, then you 
 had best not use the  PTK. But that's no reason to not use the rest of 
 Zope. 


This needs to be clarified.   We actively do consulting with the PTK.  
If you want to enter into a consulting contract with Digital Creations 
that involves the PTK, that's not a problem.

If you decide you want to use the PTK yourself, there exists a mailing 
list and a product tracker. (see http://www.zope.org/Products/PTK ) The 
PTK is under heavy development and is not a full release yet, so that 
does need to be taken into account if you wish to use it yourself.

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[Zope] distributing products

2000-11-29 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

jacintha menezes wrote:

 Hi,
 I have developed a product in windows 95/98. Is it possible to port that
 product to
 NT Machine. If so please tell me how?.
 
 Thanks,
  jacintha


Products have a "distribution" tab that creates a distribution of your 
product.  Alternatively, you can select the product in the management 
interface and choose "export" and then reimport it in your NT Zope, 
though you need to make sure you are in the Product folder.

Hope that helps,

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Re: [Zope] Editing SQL methods from Emacs (+ FTP server)?

2000-11-29 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

 On Thursday 30 November 2000, at 0 h 19, the keyboard of Anthony Baxter 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I added a patch for ftp-enabling SQL Methods to either the collector
 or the zopeshell patch manager on sourceforge (I forget which right 
 now, and it's late and I'm going to bed right now...) If you can't
 find it, email me and I'll dig it up.
 
 
 No change in zopeshell for three months and I cannot find the collector on 
SourceForge?


The collector is here:

http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector
Hope that helps,

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Re: [Zope] Building Zope within a Virtual Server

2000-11-28 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Norman Khine wrote:

 Hello,
 The new zope site seems to be running very well.
 
 I have a virtual server account on which I had previously installed zope
 2.2.2 which was later successfully upgraded to 2.2.4, unfortunantly I had
 problems in setting up MySQLdb.
 
 I have now removed zope and python 1.5.2, re-installed python2.0, within my
 domain. Which is part of the larger domain. So my root directory is not in /
 but is in /usr/home/mydir/ , within which I have installed python2.0 I have
 changed the .login file so that the path for the new python installation is
 available through out my domain. So that when I type python2.0 at the # I
 can use the python interpreter, this seems to work OK.
 
 Therefore my question/s are:
 If there is python on the root machine as well as on the virtual servers, so
 that both python and python2.0 will run from the command prompt, will this
 cause problems when I install the new virsion of zope 2.2.4?


If you run the server as you, and you compile zope from source as you, 
it should use "your" python.


Don't know.

Hope that helps,

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Re: [Zope] Zope mailing list doesn't work

2000-11-28 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Milos Prudek wrote:

 Today, I can't change my options for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I went to
 http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope, and it says that the
 document has moved to http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope, ad
 infinitum.
 
 If youa are reading this then I can post, but I cannot read since I have
 disabled delivery a few days ago and now I can't enable it due to the
 above mentioned problem.
 
 Thanks for any help, and please mail me directly


It appears that for some brief period of time, lists.zope.org was 
pointed at the wrong IP address. I'm not sure how that happened- all the 
dns records point the right place.

Anyway, it's working for me now, but if it is still not working for you, 
please visit:

http://209.67.167.110/lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope

to adjust your changes.

Thanks,

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[Zope] come see new.zope.org

2000-11-27 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas!

The cluster is up and running.  Please go pound it to see if it breaks:

http://new.zope.org

That lovely color is to remind you that you are *not* at the live site.  
Any changes you make here *will* be lost.

If you have any questions or comments, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A full report on how we did it will be appearing soon after the site 
goes live.

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Re: [Zope] come see new.zope.org

2000-11-27 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Dany Rioux wrote:

 Well,
 
 I have to say the new.zope.org is much faster than the other one.
 Great work!
 
 BTW, is this going to stay for some times or will it be migrated
 sometime soon? I'm wondering about bookmarking this site. When do you
 expect it to go "live"?


If no one manages to break it, we're going to switch over wednesday, late.

In the meantime, if people want to wget or ab it, feel free!

~ethan


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[Zope] restarting

2000-11-15 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Please bear with me, this nonsense will be over soon

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[Zope] restarting zope.org

2000-11-10 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

we'll be back after these messages.

~ethan


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[Zope] zope.org mistake

2000-11-01 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Um...

I inadvertently deleted the Data.fs whilst compressing it.  Then I
compounded my mistake by not remembering that the storage server still
had the inode open, and closed the storage server.

I have restored from the compressed version of the Data.fs, but it
appears that a day or so of information is missing.

Rest assured that I will not be so stupid in the future.

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org down?

2000-11-01 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Dennis Nichols wrote:
 
 At 11/1/00 03:22 PM, Phil Harris wrote:
 Subject says it all
 
 Well, not here but it does seem to have fallen back one or more days.

I just sent a message explaining what happened to this list.

 I'm also curious about the zope.org site performance. Zope is said to
 capable of a million hits per day on commodity hardware, yet zope.org
 receives only about 20% of that on its busiest days. This would not be
 remarkable except that the response times from zope.org seem to usually be
 10 seconds or so. I am on a T-1 line and 13 hops and 80ms from the zope.org
 server.

My current tracking shows that zope.org is pretty snappy until the
server gets attacked from a bunch of spiders.  Because zope.org has a
huge quantity of pages (500+MB of (packed) content and climbing), and
because objects get loaded into ram as they get accessed, accessing
*everything* on the site multiple times causes zope to load things in 
out a lot, causing it to slow down.

IOW, if you have a zope running with, say, 100 mb of content (that's
2048 50 kb pages) on a box with, say 256mb of ram, and you have your
caching policy set very liberally, then you should be able to hit 30
requests per second, or 2.5 million hits per day.

Zope.org will be on hardware that stretches the notion of "commodity"
soon, but it will be sufficient such that all 500mb of our objects can
be floating about in ram if need be.  This should improve our
performance drastically.

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Re: [Zope] Help! Zope Crash

2000-11-01 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Edward Muller wrote:
 
 I am running a Zwiki site at http://www.handhelds.org:8080/wiki. This site has
 become invaluable to our growing handhelds.org community as a place to collect
 information. But, sadly our zope server keeps dyingNo idea why
 
 Sometimes the zope server can be up for a few days, sometimes only a few
 hours. I am not sure what is causing this or how to go about tracking it
 down. Is there anything I can do?

make sure you start zope with the STUPID_LOG_FILE environment variable
set. Then, when your zope dies, look at the tail end of the log file. 
It should have a line that has an "Aiieee ! 12312 exited with error
code: xx".

The error code is what you should be looking at- it will tell you what
your OS reports the problem as being.  error 11 on linux is segfault,
which *may* be hardware related.

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Re: [Zope] How: /foo?var=bar equiv to /foo/bar

2000-10-23 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Heymann William wrote:
 
 I am trying to get rid of those question marks in my urls since it
 seems to confuse the users but I am not sure really how to do that. I have
 heard that it can but done but so far I have not found out how it can be
 done. I want for the last piece of the url to be assigned to the varialbe
 if a valid object can not by found. I don't really have a problem if this
 involves python coding I just need a place to start.

You're looking for the DirArg product:

http://www.zope.org/Members/itsafire/releases/DirArg

Found in http://www.zope.org/Products/Helpers
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Re: [Zope] (no subject)

2000-10-23 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Robert Joseph Roos wrote:

 invalid attribute name, "manage_addproperty(name", for tag dtml-call
 manage_addProperty(name='foo', value='bar', type='string'), on
 line 10 of makeSched

don't know if anybody helped you on this already, but any method call is
an expression, and should be (pedantically) spelled:

dtml-call expr="manage_addProperty(name='foo',value='bar',
type='string')"

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[Zope] Zope Hotfix: ObjectManager subscripting

2000-10-11 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

This hotfix addresses an important security issue that affects Zope
versions up to and including Zope 2.2.2. 

The issue involves the fact that the 'subscript notation' that can be
used to access items of ObjectManagers (Folders) did not correctly
restrict return values to only actual sub items. This made it possible
to access names that should be private from DTML (objects with names
beginning with the underscore '_' character). This could allow DTML
authors to see private implementation data structures and in certain
cases possibly call methods that they shouldn't have access to from
DTML. 

While we know of no instances of this issue being used to exploit a
site, we recommend that any Zope 2.2.x site that allows DTML to be
edited by untrusted  users apply this Hotfix. 

http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/Hotfix_2000-10-11/Hotfix_2000-10-11.tgz 

The hotfix will work for all versions of Zope 2.2.0 and higher. A future
version of Zope will contain the fix for this issue, and you will be
able to uninstall the hot fix after upgrading.

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[Zope] zope.org restarting

2000-10-04 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas,

we're tracking down a memory leak.  Thanks for your patience,
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Re: [Zope] Zope stalls indefinitely

2000-10-04 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"Leichtman, David J" wrote:
 
 Thought we had a problem of ours fixed, but here it is once again, a month
 later.
 Zope, every once in a while, will just stall indefinitely. The Zope process
 doesn't die, it just hangs.

 Any thoughts. I've posed this question to a lot of people many times. Now
 that it's back, I'm hoping for fresh insight.

hm.  have you been using -M to see which things are being called when it
hangs?

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Re: [Zope] Last-modified header missing -- time-stamps turned off.

2000-10-04 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Jean Jordaan wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 Just a note from the blue .. I'm snarfing the ZB using
   wget -np -m http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/ZB/
 and for every document I'm seeing:
 
   Last-modified header missing -- time-stamps turned off.
 
 What's the significance of this? I assume something to
 do with the http headers returned by Zope. Does Zope not
 include last-modified headers since it predominantly serves
 dynamic pages?

This is correct. No Last-Modified headers except for files and images
(and that is specific to zope.org).

Including a last modified header isn't hard, however:

http://www.zope.org/Members/rbeer/caching

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] trouble with SiteAccess; can't manage subtree mapped to inaccessible domain name

2000-09-26 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Fred Yankowski wrote:

 I'm glad to have SiteAccess.  In combination with the Apache ProxyPass
 method http://www.zope.org/Members/anser/apache_zserver/ it's been
 working well to host several domains from the same Zope/Zserver
 instance.  Very cool.  It _did_ take me while to realize that I needed
 version 2 of SiteAccess to work with Zope 2.
 http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/SiteAccess only has links to version
 1 of SiteAccess, which threw me off for a while.

Ok, well, SiteAccess2 is now the only "canonical" version.  The only way
to get to SiteAccess1 is by going to SiteAccess2 and selecting the old
version.

Hope that helps,

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Re: [Zope] http://webcompare.internet.com/

2000-09-26 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Hung Jung Lu wrote:

 I just ran across this website: http://webcompare.internet.com/
 
 Interesting that I did not see anything on Zope. Shouldn't we write
 something to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let them know about Zope?
 
 (Look also under
   http://serverwatch.internet.com/appservers.html

Thanks for letting us know about this.  I'm looking into getting Zope
mentioned here...

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Re: [Zope] How to give content maangers ability to update a Zope site ?

2000-09-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Plan B was to use the export facility but they would then need to have
 telnet access to the Zope import directory in order to put the .zexp file
 there, which seems a huge security gap to me.

I set up ncftp to allow ftp uploads (but not erasures or the creation of
new directories) to the import directory as a special user (i.e. one ftp
user for all managers).

Then people can import those files into zope wherever they have
permisssion.

A cron job wipes out the imported files every night.

Hope that helps,

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Re: [Zope] Major problem involving Multiple zopes on one machine

2000-09-06 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Bill Anderson wrote:

 Clarification:
  While in the manage screen for ServerA, I occasionally see the
 management screen for ServerB. Even wihtout being logged into ServerB.
 (IE. clean browser session)

I have 5 zopes on the same machine  i have never noticed this problem.
do the different ip's have different names?  what do you get from when
you start as far as computing default hoistname goes?

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[Zope] super cannot do

2000-09-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Chris McDonough wrote:
 
 On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Evan Simpson wrote:
 
   I've got to say I agree with you here.  I'm still not 100% sure why the
   superuser or bootstrap user can't own anything.
 
  It's due to a combination of the trojan horse issue and the sticky
  authentication issue, I think.  You really don't want to be authenticated as
  super very often, because while you are, if you visit a page someone else
  wrote, they can make your browser do evil things to your site.  This is also
  true of Managers, but less so.  Similarly, a page owned by non-super has
  tighter permissions than one owned by the super would.
 
 Yes... the PDG security chapter has all of this in it, but it would seem
 that neither Chris W or I are completely satisfied by these answers.  :-)
 It seems a matter of diminishing returns, especially when newbies hit the
 wall during install, since we haven't provided them with an airbag yet.

I think this is exlusively because as of 2.2.1 objects execute according
to their ownership, not according to the permissions of the
AUTHENTICATED_USER.

Because of the widespread security implications of letting an object
that can be called by anyone have superuser permissions (which was not
possible under the prior regime), superuser can no longer own.

You can still get superuser-esque behavior by doing something in
external methods or some other mechanism that bypasses the security
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Re: [Zope] illegal id chars?

2000-09-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Jason Byron wrote:
 
 Why is it that objects can't be created because the id
 chosen contains characters that aren't proper in urls?
  Spaces are allowed and converted to their hex values
 when you create an object.  Why not do this with every
 illegal url character?

As far as I personally know, illegal characters for id's are regulated
by what limits python sets on things, with the caveat that . is legal
even though you can't use a . in a pythonic context.

Whether it's "legalized" for URLS is totally dependant on url_quote.

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[Zope] binary math filesize

2000-09-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Kapil Thangavelu wrote:

 http://www.zope.org/Members/ZQR
 
 get size in kbs assuming its an int
 
 dtml-var "get_size/1000"

 dtml-var "get_size/1024"

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Re: [Zope] Getting the Date from Zope

2000-09-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Stuart Foster wrote:
 
 I know I've seen many posts about this, I just can't find one.
 
 I need to put the current date into an input's value when a form is loaded.
 Is there a way to do this with DTML.

input type="text" name="now" value="dtml-var ZopeTime fmt="fCommon""

See DateTime.py or the Zope Quick Reference for more information on how
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[Zope] wikis down momentarily

2000-09-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas,

Wikis will be offline briefly as we ZEO-fy them.  Thanks for your
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[Zope] The Ascetic Superuser

2000-09-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Chris Withers wrote:

 Well, okay, let me rephrase the question:
 Why is it bad for the bootstrap user to own anything?
 It used to be considered okay before Zope 2.2, so was has been
 changed/discovered that makes this now such a bad idea that despite
 loads of newbie pain and confusion, it's still worth while/necessary?

Objects used to execute according to the permissions of the
AUTHENTICATED_USER or the proxy role.  "Ownership" only applied (for
execution purposes) if you explicitly set the proxy role to "Owner".

This was a Very Bad Thing (tm) because once you authenticated as
superuser you could view a random HTML page on the web/in your inbox
that had a little javascript thingy that went and wiped out your entire
site or insert maliciousness here

Now every object excecutes according to the permision of the owner,
*not* the viewer. It can also run as a proxy role.  The
super-bootstrap-user lives outside of "normal" zope authentication  has
permission to do anything save that which NotEvenGodShouldDo. 
Therefore, it shouldn't own objects.

This is *quite* important, and needs to stay.  I don't know how to
emphasize enough that this is a well thought out correction to an
extremely deadly class of security problems that still (afaik) plagues
many "other" through-the-web management systems.

The newbie pain, however, could probably be mitigated- don't call it a
Super user, since it hardly deserves the S or the cape.  Have a user in
the default install.  Something like that.  Patches accepted.

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Re: [Zope] newbiz : zope connection

2000-09-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Stephan Goeldi wrote:

 But if you use ProxyPass like me, there is only the IP address of the Apache
 Server in this logfile, so there is only one user in the Z2.log file logged.
 You have to check out the Apache logfile, usually /var/log/httpd/access_log
 to see the different IP addresses. The logfile-format of Apache is the same
 as in Zope.

You can also set up apache with server-status which indicates the
current requests.  See mod_status on the apache page.

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[Zope] categorization request

2000-09-05 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas!

I'd like to categorize the how-Tos in a similar style to how the
products have been categorized.
What I'm looking for is a volunteer who is willing to go through *all*
the current HowTos and propose a classification.
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[Zope] What's up with zope.org?

2000-09-01 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"Bak @ kedai" wrote:
 
 what's happenng to zope.org?  i got this message when i tried accessing it

Ok, this is a bit late, but "Running into ZEO/ mounted file storage
bugs" is the answer.  

Aparently, our in-house MountedClientStorage (and the MountedDatabase)
doesn't play nice with ZEO.  So we've backed off of ZEO for the moment,
pending the magic Jim touch.
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[Zope] Slow zope.org?

2000-08-31 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Erik Enge wrote:
 
 [J. Atwood]
 
 | Umm.. what makes you say it is slow? It popped up just as fast as
 | Microsoft.com and Apple.com this morning (with each page after even
 | faster).
 
 It _was_ slow.

The main problem is that *nothing* on zope.org is cacheable.  Therefore,
any intermittent slowdown between you  codeit is going to hurt.

Short term, we will soon have a mirror of zope.org, which should reduce
the possibility of slowdown. 

At some point in the future, there'll be more fine-grained caching
availiable, at which time all the pages that can be cached will be,
which should speed up Zope.org's percieved performance.

 | Might be your connection. Certainly not slow from here (NYC, DSL)
 
 No.  I check a zillion other sites; they were fast and responsive.
 
 The Zope.org site is back up again now.  At one point, just before it
 came back to life, it reported a Proxy error.

Zope fell over and died due to a database error.  We're beginning to
suspect that there may be hardware issues.  We'll keep this list (or
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[Zope] brief downtime

2000-08-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas,

We're having a brief downtime whilst we work out some issues that have
been preventing zope.org from functioning normally.

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Re: [Zope] copy / paste support

2000-08-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Andy McKay wrote:
 
 I know some people have helped me on this thread before but Ive had chance
 to look at this again and Im still stumped on this.
 
 Newly created 2.2 objects still have a problem. Using custom class in Zope
 2.2.0.

Try with 2.2.1: I had a copy/paste problem with 2.2.0 too.
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Re: [Zope] Zope is very slow!

2000-08-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Christiano Anderson wrote:

 Do you have any example of the best Apache and ProxyCache configuration to
 running zope?
 
 My configuration looks like this:
 
 IfModule mod_proxy.c
 ProxyRequests On
 #ProxyReceiveBufferSize 65536
 ProxyReceiveBufferSize 0
 CacheRoot "/www/proxycache"
 CacheSize 5000
 CacheGcInterval 1
 CacheMaxExpire 48
 CacheLastModifiedFactor 0.1
 CacheDefaultExpire 5
 ProxyPass /paginas/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/
 ProxyPass /p_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/p_/
 ProxyPass /misc_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/misc_/
 ProxyPassReverse /paginas/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/
 ProxyPassReverse /p_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/p_/
 ProxyPassReverse /misc_/ http://200.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080/misc_/


afaik this is far larger than you need.  First, i've started using
rewrite rules as i find it far more flexible.  For Zope.org, in lieu of
ProxyPass  ProxyPassReverse I just use:

RewriteRule / http://www.zope.org: [L,P]

If you've got the SiteAccess set up correctly (i.e. it reads
http://xxx.xxx.xxx/paginas/ ) then you should have no problems.

ProxyPassReverse is, as far as I can discern from the apache docs,
completely superfluous for Zope.

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Re: [Zope] anyone got a foolproof 2.1.6 - 2.2.0 via import schema?

2000-08-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Tony McDonald wrote:
 
 I get KeyErrors from 2.2.0 with an Error value of a rubbish character
 when trying to import a folder of various objects. This also happens
 when trying to import the XML version, except the Error Value is 'id'
 (but with no idea of where the error is in the XML file ...
 irritating).
 
 any ideas? this is driving me up the bloody wall.
 ta
 tone

Hi, Tony.  2.2.0 had some problems with the ZDOM that prevented XML
documents from functioning properly.  This should be fixed in more
recent versions.

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[Zope] proxy roles in 2.2

2000-08-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Sven Hohage wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I've got two questions.
 1.Is Zope 2.2.0 masking the length of the passwords?
 2. the more important-
 I'm using a method to change properties by form. The user i.e. Tim has
 the role manager in the highest user_folder and acquisition is kept but
 Zope tells me that the user is not authorized.  Why???
  Thanks!

in 2.2 proxy roles are that of the object owner.  Therefore, the role(s)
of the user that calls the object aren't relevant.  If you need it to
execute with higher permissions you need to give ownership of it to
someone with the proper permissions.  you may then restrict access to
the method according to the authenticated user.

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[Zope] packing issue

2000-08-11 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

i just packed zope.org, and we're getting the "oversized int" error.

I am correcting this.

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Re: [Zope] 2.2.0, LoginManager and ZPatterns

2000-08-01 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Bill Anderson wrote:
 
 ethan mindlace fremen wrote:
 
  Bill Anderson wrote:

   http://www.zope.org/Members/Bill/Products/Membership
 
  well, it may be alpha, but I catalogued it anyway (so that people can
  find it)
 
 OK. I marked in RED letters that it is alpha. :)
 
 Thinking aluod
 Perhaps the Product Release page can put 'development' in red, so that devel 
products are
 easier to spot?

You could go to your product, and for topics use "Example" and
"Developer".

That should do the trick :)

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[Zope] restarting zope.org

2000-07-31 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

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Re: [Zope] 2.2.0, LoginManager and ZPatterns

2000-07-31 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Bill Anderson wrote:

  Where I can find this 'Membership' product ? (I've tried
  www.zope-treasures.com and 'Search' on www.zope.org).
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/Bill/Products/Membership

well, it may be alpha, but I catalogued it anyway (so that people can
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Re: [Zope] PTK question ..

2000-07-31 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Chris Withers wrote:
 
 Jean Jordaan wrote:
ZopePTK-0.7.1.tar.gz
 
 Erk :(
 
 Theres' a much newer snapshot available at:
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/taz/PTK
 

This is catalogued now.

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Re: [Zope] Full path var on Zope.org login link (Ethan!)?

2000-07-28 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"J. Atwood" wrote:
 
 What DTML-VAR do they use on Zope.org to populate the came_from variable for
 the 'login' link?

http://www.zope.org/standard_html_header/view_source

dtml-URL0;

:-)

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Re: [Zope] search on www.zope.org

2000-07-28 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Chris Withers wrote:
 
 Andy Pahne wrote:
  Can anybody please tell me the search on www.zope.org does not find any
  pages containing?
 
- mod_pcgi2
 
 IIRC, The splitter on Zope.org treats punctuation as stop characters,
 that includes . - and _
 
 So searches like yours, or for dtml-in, etc will return nothing.
 However, as search for pcgi2 returns lots. dtml-in isn't too easy since
 I think 'in' is too short to actually turn up in a catalog and 'dtml'
 doesn't exactly get what you're after :S

Actually, - is treated as a continuation (ala hyphen) so searching for
dtmlin works fine.

_ is a stop word, so searching for "mod pcgi" works.

I'm going to note this on the search page.

I'm looking into changing this, but Splitter.c is a good description of
the headache I get :)

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Re: [Zope] In fact, it was HOW can I write an email with HTML inside... ;-)

2000-07-28 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

dtml-sendmail mailhost="MailHost"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HTML in Email

HTML
HEADTITLESending HTML to the list/TOPIC/HEAD
BODY
pplease don't send HTML formatted mail to the list!
p(I know, I'm being a hypocrite)
/BODY
/HTML
/dtml-sendmail


Also see the sendmail tag, in the DTML user's guide.

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Re: [Zope] zope.org down

2000-07-24 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Cary O'Brien wrote:

 Hold on. I am confused, and I really need to understand this.
 Why do you need a 40 gb drive to store something that might get to 2GB?
 Do thing get really big during packing?  (Thinking PostgreSQL index creation
 here, where it uses temp files for sorting, which has bit me more than
 once).  Or do you just want to keep N old versions around?

I need to have n versions for various testing purposes: this is what got
me in trouble in the first place- I was packing to try to make room. 
The pack makes a full backup of your data, so it needs about 1.75*n
space where n is the size of your current Data.fs

 Also, (besides "upgrade to alpha"), what is the workaround for Data.fs
 bigger than 2GB?  Are there any plans to split it across multiple
 files? (Once again, the PostgreSQL people recently added this -- database
 files don't exceed 1GB, when the table gets that big it splits them
 across multiple files).

One solution is to have your Data.fs actually be split using mounted
databases, something I consider a sub-optimal solution.  Another option
would be to store the entire zodb in a relational database, but as far
as I know none of the products that attempt to provide that are
full-featured.

The bottom line is that the OS should support the creation of very large
files.  Note that any of the BSD variants, or Solaris for x86, or SCO
unix, all will let you have a ZODB larger than 2gb, assuming python was
compiled properly.

I have spent literally about 40 hours trying to get Linux to support
large files.  While the code is integrated into kernels 2.3.27 and up,
something still isn't quite right because I cannot get python to support
large files although I can get c to create 17GB files using lseek().

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[Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] July 20th Zope Weekly News

2000-07-24 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Simon Michael wrote:
 
 ethan mindlace fremen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 o Wikis are now searchable - and they have history,
   too! This was a little bumpy, with Steve
   Alexandar pointing out a search bug.
 
 Yay! where can we see this ?

Search for anything.  If the icon is a white page with a bunch of funny
black squiggies, that's a zWiki page :)
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Re: [Zope] Zope/Apache/ProxyPass

2000-07-24 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Joshua Brauer wrote:
 
 I'm having trouble getting Zope and Proxy Pass to work the way I expect
 
 Specifically if you look at this site:
 
 http://www.bmb.colostate.edu:8111/

I can't get to this url at all.  In fact, I don't know how this relates
to the proxypass rules below...

 it's really supposed to proxypass to webdev.bmb.colostate.edu, but the 
ProxyPassReverse directive doesn't seem to clean/modify/correct the base tag in the 
header as I understand it should

You have to use siteAccess to correct the base tag  any generated
URL's.
 
 Here's the proxypass section of my httpd.conf for apache:
 ProxyRequests   on
 NoCache *
 ProxyPass / http://webdev.bmb.colostate.edu/
 ProxyPassReverse / http://webdev.bmb.colostate.edu/
 ProxyPass /misc_ http://webdev.bmb.colostate.edu/misc_
 ProxyPass /p_ http://webdev.bmb.colostate.edu/p_

Josh,

the proxypass rules on zope.org are pretty simple:

VirtualHost 209.67.167.55
 ServerName www.zope.org
 ProxyPass / http://www.zope.org:93/
 ProxyPassReverse / http://www.zope.org:93/
/VirtualHost

and everything seems to work fine, with a SiteRoot that says that
SiteRootBASE is http://www.zope.org

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Re: [Zope] ZEO and a front end...

2000-07-18 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Curtis Maloney wrote:
 I think most people seem to be missing the point here.

While I think Bill addressed this, I am not missing your point.  By subdomaining
areas, you can assign those subdomains an IP address, which can be primarily
served by a Zope Client.

 The idea is that ALL servers can serve ALL content.  HOWEVER, the 'load
 balancer' will opt for a certain server for a certain URL, in order to
 improve cache hits.

Because you're using SiteAccess, every node can access the objects that the
subdomain-primary serves, so you can do loadbalancing or failover.  There might
be some delay as the secondaries draw objects from the siteserver.

 Have a better one,

My life has been so good lately I'm almost afraid to think of what that would be
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[Zope] Re: Member Login

2000-07-18 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Frank McNamara wrote:
 
 Thanks for the help. Wouldn't it be a good idea to include this information
 somewhere in the documentation, or have I missed it?

Basic Authentication is part of the "architecture standards", like
TCP/IP and
HTML, are generally beyond the purview of zope documentation. 
The standard in this case is HTTP, where Basic Authentication is
defined:

 http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc2068.html

There is another rfc - the next one, submitted the same month- that
describes
digest authentication, a vastly more intelligent scheme.  However,
despite the
fact that Netscape and Microsoft both partook in making this RFC nearly
three
*years* ago, neither of the browsers support the standard.

RSA's patent caused a modularization of Mozilla's crypto functions, so
there is
a faint hope that some enterprising soul will implement digest auth. 
There's a
post just to that effect in this week's status update at mozilla.org.

It would be even better (for me at any rate) if there was some other way
to change user and/or log out.

We definitely feel your pain: there are many authentication packages out
there. 
LoginManager, MySQL user folder, smb User Folder, etcUserFolder and
GenericUserFolder are all tools people have used to provide
authentication in
different ways.

Hope that helps,

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Re: [Zope] Zope Knowledge Base on www.faqts.com

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Fiona Czuczman wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 It seems the consensus is that my working on a zope knowledge base would
 be appreciated so I'll take up the challenge 
 
 The issue of where to enter the questions was a tough one...
 zdp.zope.org or zope.faqts.com (FAQTs still need to set this up,
 currently http://www.faqts.com/knowledge-base/index.phtml/fid/295/lang/
 though there's not much there yet :)
 
 I decided to go with FAQTs for a couple of reasons.
 
 - the admin behind the site, for sending out summaries etc, is great.
 - I'll be working off the one site for python and zope.
 
 Basically it just makes the job easier for me.

Hi, fiona.  Thanks for doing this.  Email me once you're up and running
so I can link to it from zope.org.
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Re: [Zope] Re: Zope 2.2.0 Startup

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Chris Withers wrote:
 
 Indra Gunawan wrote:
  I've just install Zope 2.2.0 from 2.1.6 but when I run the start.bat it
  seems the startup process took a very2 long time compared to the usual, is
  it normal?

Did you just copy the Data.fs ? If so, your old zope had a Data.fs.index
that greatly speeds the startup of zope.  It is regenerated if zope
starts  stops safely, so probably it will start much faster next time.
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[Zope] product docs Re: [Zope] Zope docs ??

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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 Anynoe recommend any documentation on Zope; esp. extending it with Python
 methods; besides the ZOpe.org stuff?

Beehive has a zclasses tutorial availiable for DM25 at
http://www.beehive.de . I would recommend zclasses over "pure python"
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Re: [Zope] Zboard 0.1 released

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

rainlood wrote:
 
 Hello.
 I want to announce this.
 
 http://www.zope.org/Members/rainlood/Zboard/

Rainlood, thank you for making a product for Zope!

It helps your product get more widespread use when you add a description
to the product.  There is also an informative document on how to do
context sensitive help in your product:

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/Docs/HelpTopicUsage

Also, when your product has these features, the Catalog Help tells you
how to make it appear in the Product's Page:

http://www.zope.org/Members/CatalogHelp
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Re: [Zope] ZEO and a front end...

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Curtis Maloney wrote:
 Yes, however his point is that by having each Zope instance 'predominantly'
 serving one portion of the site, its cache will contain more objects
 relevant, and thus be just that little bit faster.
 
 Personally, I find this such a simple idea that it MUST be good. (o8
 So much so, in fact, that I've decided to have a crack at writing just such a
 redirector.  I feel the Zope world (and others, most likely) could benefit
 from a 'preferential' redirector.

The way I would do this is have 

section1.contrived-example.com
section2.contrived-example.com
section3.contrived-example.com

with siteAccess, and then each zope would serve it according to it's IP
(though each "could" serve each site).  Then you can use whatever IP/DNS
load balancing tool your heart desires.

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Re: [Zope] Importing exchange rates

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Adrian Madrid wrote:
 
 I need to obtain the current exchange rates for the yen, mark, etc. with
 at least once a day, preferrably every other 15". Is there an easy way
 to do this in Zope?

It depends on where the exchange rates are.  

If you get them from a database, you can make zope display the current
rates. 

If you get them from a web page, you can use the client feature of zope
to go snarf the web page and then extract what you need (hope you have
permission :)

If some other mechanism can write them to a file, you can suck them up
with an external method whenever someone asks for it.

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Re: [Zope] help

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

danchik wrote:
 
 how can I fix this??

 dtml-var SomeVar  !-- there is a valid namespace SomeVar and this line
 prints it out... --
   !-- the next line works fine with
 Number 5, but not if I substitute SomeVar instead of 5 --
 dtml-var "Some_Header(style=Some_Style_css(SomeKey=5))"

The wrapping makes it very hard to read. I don't believe you need to do
this.

With these changes:

  the Some_header dtml file has the following
 lines-
 style
 --!
 dtml-var "_.getitem(style)"
 --!
 /stile

  the Some_Style_css dtml file has the following
 lines--
 input{ position: relative;
 
   font-size: dtml-var SomeKey
 }

You can do this much more simply as long as Some_Style and Some_header
are methods, and style and SomeKey are in REQUEST:

dtml-var Some_header

Then Some_header will have Some_style passed to it in the request, and
SomeKey will come from REQUEST too.

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Re: [Zope] Writing a Zope Help System

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"J. Atwood" wrote:
 
 Has anyone posted a help on writing Zope help into your product for 2.2?

Docs Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/Docs/HelpTopicUsage

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[Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Problem with Zope

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"Tina Goyne (TT)" wrote:
 
 Hi:
 
 I am a novice Zope user--my web master left my company and I have been
 pegged with the responsibility of maintaining our internal website.  I am
 having a problem adding a new folder and then adding a file to the folder.

Questions like these are for [EMAIL PROTECTED], the mailing list for site
builders.
I've redirected this there.

 The file is located on another server with appropriate permissions.

I'm not certain this is what you're trying to do, but if you're adding
the file from the management interface, it must come from your machine,
not another server.

 However, this is the error message I get:

[not found error]

 Can you please direct me on what to do to correct this problem?  Thanks.

when posting errors, first do "view source" on the page, and inside that
you should see a traceback. Posting the traceback helps us know what
happened.

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[Zope] zope.org going down now

2000-07-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

zope.org is going down now for the upgrade.

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[Zope] zope.org updated

2000-07-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

zope.org is now running the release version of zope (2.2), which should
be availiable for download shortly.

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Re: [Zope] Linux user group

2000-07-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

CURTIS David wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 I am a member of the a Linux users group and I have been asked to do a demo on ZOPE 
because I am using it and many members are curious. I consider myself a ZOPE newbie, 
because use I use ZOPE  to access some really  simple databases.  I have NOT done any 
special python programming (but not for lack of trying) but would like some input on 
what I should say about ZOPE.  1) Is there a ZOPE demo for that runs on a CDROM?

I think you're looking for the "Zope on CDROM howto":

http://www.zope.org/Members/jens/news/zope_on_cdrom

 2) What is the best way to present ZOPE?

Hm.  In a bed of lettuce with an olive on top?
(sorry)

the advantages I noticed when first using zope:

Reduction of redundancy through aquisition (increases maintainability,
etc)
Easy dynamically generated pages (with or without RDB access)
Through the web management.

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Re: [Zope] Blank Date Field?

2000-07-13 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"James W. Howe" wrote:
 
 Is there some easy way to allow for the storage and display of an
 empty/blank date field?  It seems that you are unable to enter a blank
 value if you defined a property field as storing a date value.  I want to
 be able to store dates in my object, but the date value is optional.

This is fixed in 2.2, which should be released mere days from now.

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[Zope] zope.org going down for upgrade

2000-07-13 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Zopatistas:

zope.org will be going down the morning of Friday the 14th during the
transition to zope 2.2.  It should be no more than a 15 minute downtime.

In the mean time, if you want to hit http://www.zope.org:666/ to see if
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Re: [Zope] Re: Document Title

2000-07-12 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Terry Babbey wrote:
 
 Here is my next problem ... I have a variable called ProgCode. That is where I
 store the College Program I want to look up information on (eg. T043). Now all
 the dtml documents associated with program T043 have T043 as the base of their
 name and then the names have extra characters (eg. T043PIC is the picture
 associated with the T043 program). So what I want to do is append the letters
 PIC to the variable ProgCode and then test to see if the file exists.
 Here is one thought I have had so far but it does not work.

Assuming that the picture is an image:
you have to put it in a dtml-var:

 dtml-if "_.getitem(ProgCode+'PIC')"
  dtml-var "_.getitem(ProgCode+'PIC').tag(ALIGN='RIGHT')"
 /dtml-if

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Re: [Zope] hard dtml syntax problem

2000-07-12 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Jerome Alet wrote:
 
 Hi want to call ZopeFind to find all folders in the current folder which
 doesn't have got any subfolder.
 
 the following query works but returns all folders, even those which have
 got subfolders:
 
 dtml-let myresult="ZopeFind(this(), obj_metatypes=['Folder'],
 search_sub=1)"
 dtml-in myresult
 ...
 /dtml-in

Couldn't you just do a nested dtml-in?  It's kind of hacky, but...

dtml-in "objectValues(['Folder']"
 dtml-in "objectValues(['Folder']"
 dtml-else
  pdtml-var title_or_id has no folders.
 /dtml-in
/dtml-in

you may or may not have to change the dtml-var statement to get the
correct title-or-id.

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Re: [Zope] Current Year

2000-07-12 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Aaron Williamson wrote:
 
 I hate to sound like such a newbie, but I am having the darndest time
 trying to figure out how to get the current year.  I know that the
 current time is ZopeTime, but I have tried every way I can think of to
 get the year() function to work with it, and at last have given up.  The
 documentation I have found is vague at best (imagine).  Please help.

The zope quick reference is my source for answers about time
formatting.  I also hear that DateTime.py has excellent in-source
documentaton.

Unlike steve, I would do dtml-var ZopeTime fmt=year

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Re: [Zope] simple instructions for site search

2000-07-12 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Sean Kelley wrote:
 
 I am a new Zope user- Can anyone tell me if there is documented
 anywhere, simple instructions for creating a full site search by
 keyword?  I have a simple site with squishdot and zope chat.
 Thanks

You want the ZCatalog Howto:

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/How-To/ZCatalogTutorial
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Re: [Zope] Document Title

2000-07-10 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Terry Babbey wrote:
 
 I am trying to get a document title to print out and am having
 problems.
 
 As part of my web page I would like to display the title of a
 document, and the document id is stored in a variable. But Zope is
 interpretting the information in the variable as a string and not as a
 document id.

I guess I'm confused.  You don't use id for the ID?  As in, dtml-var
id doesn't work properly?

There's also dtml-var title, dtml-var title_or_id, dtml-var
document_title ...

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Re: [Zope] product import error - please help

2000-07-10 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Eagan hills wrote:
 
 All,
 
 I am working on a new installation of Zope under Red Hat 6.3. When trying to
 import any product (Portal Toolkit, Squishdot, KM news etc.), I get an
 error - internal server error (500). It seems as if the page isnt there.
 There is an import directory under the Zope root directory.
 
 Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

You need to be in Control_Panel/Products when you import products.  Does
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Re: [Zope] Adding users via external method

2000-06-27 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Timothy Grant wrote:

 I have come upon some situations where I also need to add Roles. I can find
 nothing archived nor on the Zope site about programmatically adding Roles.
 Can anyone assist me?

hmm.  I don't know how you're adding users without indicating their
roles.

I do this:

  dtml-call "acl_users.manage_users('Add',REQUEST)"

where REQUEST includes these variables:

name
password
confirm
roles

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Re: [Zope] (no subject)

2000-06-26 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Luc Tonin wrote:
 
 does anybody know how to have some statistic about each web pages
 under zope?? each pages is da result of query on a mysql database !
 any id ???
 thx by advance

I don't know if this is what you mean, but you can use webalizer or
another statistics package on the log file created by zope. If you run
it behind apache, you can use the log file apache creates.

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Re: [Zope] Re: SiteAccess 2.1.6

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

"Wright, Geoff" wrote:
 
 Oleg Broytmann writes:
 
   I am using SiteAccess and 2.1.6 at iMeme, and they play
   fine together.
 
  This is one success story among millions failures. I
  certainly would not upgrade to 2.1.6.

Oleg, you may indeed have had problems with SQL methods, but if you can
repeatably make 2.1.6 not work with SiteAccess 1.0.1 , you should let us
know about it.  I don't think there are millions of failures with
SiteAccess.
 
 I am running SiteAccess on two 2.1.6 installs -- one on a RedHat 6.1 box and
 the other on a RH6.2 box.  Both work like a champ.
 
 These were both fresh 2.1.6 installs.  Does the problem typically occur
 w/upgrades or did I just get lucky twice?  I ask because I have a 2.1.4
 install that I've been planning to upgrade -- and it serves several domains
 and depends heavily upon SiteAccess.

I don't believe you were lucky.  I have had no problems whatsoever with
SiteAccess (aside from known issues).

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Re: [Zope] ZPhotoAlbum

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Mechtild Hofmann wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have a Problem with "Photo". When I will add  one, I get the
 message: The _imaging C module is not installed
 I have installed an folder .../lib/Python/Pil ... It is not enough.
 But I don't know, where I found  _imaging C and which file does it
 use.

You don't appear to have the python imaging library installed.  You need
this installed in order to use ZPhoto.
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Re: [Zope] HTML Editors that recognize DTML (was bastardized form of XML)

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 OK, now the same question (what HTML editor understands / can be
 made to understand DTML), but rund on Linux instead of Windows?
 Right now, I use vi. I'll have to try the vim ftp plugins I've
 seen on the list.
 Anything else that works?

you can extend vim to tag hilight dtml, if you want.  I'd certainly love
to see it. http://www.vim.org/lang.html would be where to start.

I think you could do the same thing with emacs, if you were so inclined.

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Re: [Zope] Disabling tracebacks

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Matt Behrens wrote:

 That's cool, but that just comments out the tracebacks.  How can I
 make them disappear entirely?  Or is that code hacking :-)  (I just
 noticed zope.org is just commenting them too...)

http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/ByKey/ECACFFAB06D4E55E

I think answers your question: I found it by searching for the word
"traceback" at the mailing list archives maintained by our NIP friends: 
They are linked from the Mailing List pages on Zope.org.

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Re: [Zope] geting the type of an object from within dtml ???

2000-06-25 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Thierry Nabeth wrote:

 for instance:
 dtml-var meta_type
 does not return the correct type.

dtml-var "meta_type" works.  You can also use things like
dtml-in "objectValues(['DTML Document'])"

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Re: [Zope] newbie question

2000-06-22 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Alexander N Gould wrote:
 
 Now that I've set up some virtual hosts off my zserver, I have another
 question.  These sites (each in a folder in the zope DB) share a lot of
 data in the form of some custom zobjects representing contacts, calendar
 items, and posts to discussion boards.  If I put these objects in folders
 on the root level, how do I access them from dtml methods somewhere else?
 Or am I going about this all wrong?

dtml-with SomeTopFolder
dtml-var SomeObject
/dtml-with

A revamped "transparent folder" will allow you to make global objects
more easily sometime in the near future (after 2.2 release)

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Re: [Zope] Adding users via external method

2000-06-22 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Timothy Grant wrote:

 I'm working on a project where it would be very nice to add all the original
 users via a script.
 
 I'm working with an external method that should--I believe use manage_user()
 to add the users.

I use a dtml_method for this, actually. I don't know how to do it with
an external method (or why you would want to).

I have an external method that does external things, like call adduser
on the system, but the things you do inside the ZODB are probably better
done in a Product or just a regular method.

hope that helps,

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[Zope] this is not the message you are looking for

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

move along

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Re: [Zope] Zope jobs.

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Erik Enge wrote:
 
 On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Patrick Lewis wrote:
 
  Funny you should mention this. I have mocked up a job board at:
 
  www.zope.org/Members/plewis/job_board
 
 Let's hope they're not _too_ slow ;-).

who you calling slow? :-P

Well, I'm johnny on the spot on this one, and I just finished getting
set up here in scenic Fredericksburg.  Well, sort of.  Anyway, I can
send email.

dtml-with standard_work_disclaimer

I want to have a whole site dedicated to commerce-type activities.  I'm
spending this week putting together a "vision thing" for the zope web so
that where we go next will *scale*.
/dtml-with

So I ask for your patience: I will be moving on this soon.

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[Zope] SiteAccess 2.1.6

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Oleg Broytmann wrote:
 
I run 2.1.4 too, and for the same reason - ZSQL and SiteAccess. I am
 afraid I couldn't upgrade to 2.1.5+ nor 2.2+ due to SiteAccess :(

Oleg,

I am using SiteAccess and 2.1.6 at iMeme, and they play fine together.

SiteAccess is also tracking 2.2, if you take a look at it.

~ethan

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Re: [Zope] ZODB or not ZODB?

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Casey Duncan wrote:

 Is ZODB up to the task of storing this quantity of objects? What problems
 might I run into? Is it a wise idea, could a data.fs file of this size
 (~3-400MB) become too easily corrupted? Should I use a separate data.fs file
 just to store the documents (ie using mountedFileStorage)? Or is it better
 to use method #1 or #2? Information from anyone with experience in this
 regard is greatly appreciated.

Casey,

Zope.org is 375 MB packed, and it grows by 100 MB a *day*.  There are
8500 member folders.  When you get this many objects in a folder, accessing the 
folder (though not the objects themselves) gets *slow*.

more info here:

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-dev/ReallyBigFolders

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Re: [Zope] Big folders

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Jimmie Houchin wrote:
 My apologies if this covered somewhere.

no, but it is talked about:

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-dev/ReallyBigFolders

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Re: [Zope] Multiple virtual hosts and domains

2000-06-21 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Alex Gould wrote:
 
 Hugo Ramos wrote:
 
  After testing SiteAccess for about 100 times... i still can't get zope to
  serve multiple virtual hosts and domains...

[...]

 I just recently asked this question and got it to work.  This setup
 works if you have several subdomains 'sitea.domain.tld' and
 'siteb.domain.tld' etc.  It may have to be modified to work with other
 setups - don't ask me how!

but please do look at Evan's excellent documentation, where he does
cover several examples.

 http://www.zope.org/Members/4am/SiteAccess/info

 -  create folders sitea, siteb, and so on in your root zodb directory
 -  put a siteroot in each folder, leaving all fields except name blank
 -  make a dtml method in the root directory called virtual_hosts or
 something, consisting of the following script:
 dtml-comment
 Get subdomain:
 /dtml-comment

[snip]

quick note: Access rules don't care if you leave out the dtml-comment
tags.

 This should work, but don't ask me how (credit goes to Ethan Mindlace
 Freeman, who gave me these instructions).  Good luck!

it's Fremen, as in spice, giant worms, arrakis ... :-)

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[Zope] Zope Weekly News June 14th

2000-06-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

LinuxTag, the Open Source Conference, Launch of Zope 2.2.0b1,
a Docs Wiki and much Documentation work, PTK gains steam,
Guido's time machine stolen, Improved Products page
and more!

The opinions expressed in Zope Weekly news are solely the authors',
and not the opinions of Digital Creations, The Zope Community
at-large, or the Spanish Inquisition.

The Zope Weekly News now has a "permanent home",
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN.

And Now For Something Completely Different:

Coming Events

  LinuxTag

There will be a Zope booth at the "LinuxTag",
http://www.linuxtag.de
in Stuttgart, Germany from June 29th to July 2nd.
In addition to the booth that will be there for the 
whole conference, there will be 2 rooms available 
for talks and discussions on the business day, 
Thursday 29th.  There will not be an additional charge
for the two rooms on buisness day.

We are still looking for people who want help 
organizing the conference, give some talks and 
attend the booth. Generally, it would also be great
to know who is planning to be at the conference.
Please send feedback to "Stephan Richter",
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
See "Zope at Linuxtag",
http://www.zope.org/Members/Linuxtag/
for the most up-to-date information.
  
  The Open Source Convention

   This "enormous convention",
   http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon2000/
   hosted by O'reilly, is shaping up to be pretty
   interesting.  Aside from the State of Python,
   given by Guido von Rossum, there's also going
   to be a "talk on the CERT Advisory",
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/w/evening_events.html
   about cross-site scripting, a web-wide security 
   issue that the Zope Community was among the first
   to begin implementing security policies for: they'll
   land with zope 2.2.
   
   Zope is going to be at the conference in force,
   with:
 
 - Paul "opening eyes to the Zope-Mozilla initiative",
   http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/e_sess/853
 
 - Ryan telling the world "you can have web
   IMAP and collaboration",
   http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/e_sess/725

 - Christopher, as always, concentrating
   on the "edification of the community",
   http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/w/python_tutorials.html

Documentation

   -- by Amos Lattier

  This Week

* We've released the Docs Wiki

  http://www.zope.org/Wikis/Docs

  This is your source for information on official
  Zope documentation. You can find out about all
  our projects including their status and timelines.
  You can also see what Amos, Michel and Stephan are
  doing each week. Plus, since it's a wiki you can
  add your comments.

* The bulk of this week's work will be spent trying to
  get the online docs ship shape for Zope 2.2 final. Mike
  is finishing up the API docs, Amos is working on the
  help system framework and tutorial and Stephan is working
  on the management help content.

* Mike is working with O'Reilly this week to clarify the
  status of his book. If all goes well we should have a
  definitive answer on making it official Zope documentation
  by the end of the week.

  Next Week

* Next week will be spent finishing any bits that need finalizing
  for Zope 2.2 that we don't finish this week.

* Hopefully next week we can begin making Mike's book public.

Zope Status

  -- by Brian Lloyd

Summary

  We finally beat the todo list and got the 2.2 beta 1 release 
  "out the door",
  http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.2.0b1
  (and there was much rejoicing!).

Last week highlights

7 more collector issues were closed last week, and the remaining 
items on the todo list for 2.2 beta 1 were knocked out. The needed 
hooks for non-invasive virtual hosting support were added, as well 
as better Undo handling, several catalog fixes and some long overdue 
fixes to the way that HTTP HEAD requests are handled that should 
make Zope more friendly to various spidering tools. This week's 
good-buddies-of-the-core:

  o Chris Withers and others for forcing some action on the HEAD
issue

  o Toby Dickenson and Butch Landingin contributed fixes for ZCatalog

  o taz sent a patch to un-screw what I screwed up last time 
I worked on MailHost :^)

Next week

Next week we'll be absorbing feedback on the beta release and planning 
for final. More importantly, work will begin in earnest on the "opening 
the development process" initiative. I hope to get a basic "Zope core 
development"- focused area set up, publish the draft Zope roadmap for 
comment and start working out some post-2.2 plans.

This week in the PTK Community
  
  -- by Tres Seaver

 * David Brown, author of 
   "Zope Fish":http://zopefish.weblogs.com/ZopeFishRelease,
   agreed to join TeamPTK.  Welcome!

 * We arrived at protocol for gaining consensus on proposed changes:

   - Create a tracker issue embodying the proposal (which then
 

Re: [Zope] virtual hosts with ZServer

2000-06-14 Thread ethan mindlace fremen

Alexander N Gould wrote:
 
 On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, ethan mindlace fremen wrote:
 
  dtml-let hostname="_.string.join(_.string.split(_.string.split(HTTP_HOST,
  ':')[0], '.')[0], '')"
dtml-try
   dtml-if "_[hostname]"
  Set logical root: dtml-call "REQUEST.set('SiteRootPATH', '/')"
  Add physical root: dtml-call "REQUEST.path.append(hostname)"
   /dtml-if
 dtml-except KeyError
dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect('http://penguinpowered.com/NoHostHere')"
 /dtml-try
  /dtml-let
 
 This almost works, but then even the superuser can't access these folders
 (unauthorized)!
 Help!

Hmm.  superuser can't manage the folders? They should be able to.  I assume you
mean by "almost works" it doesn't let you manage?

First, you can always disable siteaccess by using __no_before_traverse__ as the
first item in the path.

Second, once you set this up, you cannot manage the folder except from it's url
( host1.penguinpowered.com/manage should work)

These are kind of stabs in the dark. If you could show me some urls that don't
work, then maybe I can do some more.

Thanks,

~ethan

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