[Zope] Re: low level HTML in Zope

2000-07-10 Thread Anser

"Henny van der Linde" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...Zope forces you often to go to  nitty gritty details of HTML
programming.
 I think that's a good thing (for me). GUI tools tend to make
 you very lazy and often produce horrible HTML (for example Frontpage).

Today's best WYSIWYG editors produce excellent HTML, including Dreamweaver
and Allaire Homesite.  (There should be a rule that nothing is every
usefully compared to the hideous Frontpage.)

Zope's text box interfaces do encourage you to mess with low level HTML, but
there is no help or verification that you actually know what you're doing.
Learning raw HTML is fun and can be useful, but if you program that way, you
should always follow up with a *validator* like CSE HTML Validator or a
recent build of Weblint.  You will find errors!  And errors do matter!


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Re: [Zope] Re: low level HTML in Zope

2000-07-10 Thread Gregory Haley

Hi folks,

I wholeheartedly agree that one should learn handcoded html,
if only in order to be able to clean up what the html
editors do that you want to customize.  I have found that it
is possible to write very complex files with code warrior or
dreamweaver.  From the zope interface, you can import a dtml
document, and pull up the edited file into zope.  When you
try to submit the 'change' command, the zope parser will
throw out any errors, etc.

ciao!
greg.

Gregory Haley
venaca.com

Anser wrote:
 
 "Henny van der Linde" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...Zope forces you often to go to  nitty gritty details of HTML
 programming.
  I think that's a good thing (for me). GUI tools tend to make
  you very lazy and often produce horrible HTML (for example Frontpage).
 
 Today's best WYSIWYG editors produce excellent HTML, including Dreamweaver
 and Allaire Homesite.  (There should be a rule that nothing is every
 usefully compared to the hideous Frontpage.)
 
 Zope's text box interfaces do encourage you to mess with low level HTML, but
 there is no help or verification that you actually know what you're doing.
 Learning raw HTML is fun and can be useful, but if you program that way, you
 should always follow up with a *validator* like CSE HTML Validator or a
 recent build of Weblint.  You will find errors!  And errors do matter!
 
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