Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-14 Thread Christopher N. Deckard
We are running Zope 2.13.10.  (So this may not be too helpful.)  We are testing 
the hotfix.  This is the output in our event log.

2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied setHeader patch
2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied allow_module patch
2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied 
get_request_var_or_attr patch
2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply gtbn
2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply 
membership_tool
2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply 
queryCatalog
2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply 
uid_catalog
2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply 
renameObjectsByPaths
2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply 
at_download
2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply 
safe_html
2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied python_scripts 
patch
2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied ftp patch
2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Applied atat patch
2012-11-14T10:16:49 WARNING Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Could not apply 
random_string
2012-11-14T10:16:49 INFO Products.PloneHotfix20121106 Hotfix installed

Without knowing how to specifically break things I can't say if it is good to 
be running this or not.  I'm sure a new Zope2 release will include these 
updates?

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On Nov 13, 2012, at 4:30 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 
 On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:16 , Jürgen Herrmann juergen.herrm...@xlhost.de 
 wrote:
 I successfully applied these hotfixes to Zope 2.13 versions
 without any problems. What puzzles me though is why was there
 no announcement for theses fixes here on zope ml? Or are these
 fixes not critical for pure Zope2 users? Or are these all fixed
 in the latest version of Zope2?
 
 There was no announcement here because those patches were prepared by Plone 
 developers without our knowledge and announced without our knowledge. The 
 Zope developers know as much about these patches (meaning little to nothing) 
 as any other Zope user.
 
 jens
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-13 Thread johannes raggam
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from the security announcement page:
https://plone.org/products/plone/security/advisories/20121106-announcement

This patch is compatible with all supported Plone versions (i.e.
Plone 3 and Plone 4), it may work on earlier versions of Plone, but as
these are unsupported they have had less testing done.

so probably zope versions from 2.10.11 onwards are supported. see:
http://dist.plone.org/release/3-latest/versions.cfg

other versions UNSUPPORTED. if you really need to know which versions
exactly are affected, you HAVE to find out yourself. either by trying
it out in a test environment or by analyzing the whole commit history
of affected modules in zope.

people reported successful patching of Plone2.1 and i patched a Zope
2.8 instance too. but this is informal, not an official statement.



On 11/13/2012 12:49 AM, Marcus Schopen wrote:
 Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 11:13 -0700 schrieb Sean Upton:
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Marcus Schopen
 li...@localguru.de wrote: Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 12:07
 + schrieb Richard Harley:
 So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone?
 
 
 That's still the question to me ;)
 
 Why not try product installation and running your instance in
 the foreground.  If anything breaks, comment out any specific
 inapplicable hotfix in __init__.py.  A brief look at the source
 will tell you that it is unlikely you should need to do this, as
 conditional imports check what to apply.
 
 Yes, we all can go the long way of try and error and code
 inspection ... without knowing anything for sure in the end.
 
 Ciao!
 
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-13 Thread Jürgen Herrmann

Am 13.11.2012 10:05, schrieb johannes raggam:

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from the security announcement page:

https://plone.org/products/plone/security/advisories/20121106-announcement

This patch is compatible with all supported Plone versions (i.e.
Plone 3 and Plone 4), it may work on earlier versions of Plone, but 
as

these are unsupported they have had less testing done.

so probably zope versions from 2.10.11 onwards are supported. see:
http://dist.plone.org/release/3-latest/versions.cfg

other versions UNSUPPORTED. if you really need to know which versions
exactly are affected, you HAVE to find out yourself. either by trying
it out in a test environment or by analyzing the whole commit history
of affected modules in zope.

people reported successful patching of Plone2.1 and i patched a Zope
2.8 instance too. but this is informal, not an official statement.


Hi!

I successfully applied these hotfixes to Zope 2.13 versions
without any problems. What puzzles me though is why was there
no announcement for theses fixes here on zope ml? Or are these
fixes not critical for pure Zope2 users? Or are these all fixed
in the latest version of Zope2?

kind regards,
Jürgen





On 11/13/2012 12:49 AM, Marcus Schopen wrote:

Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 11:13 -0700 schrieb Sean Upton:




On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Marcus Schopen
li...@localguru.de wrote: Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 12:07
+ schrieb Richard Harley:

So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone?



That's still the question to me ;)

Why not try product installation and running your instance in
the foreground.  If anything breaks, comment out any specific
inapplicable hotfix in __init__.py.  A brief look at the source
will tell you that it is unlikely you should need to do this, as
conditional imports check what to apply.


Yes, we all can go the long way of try and error and code
inspection ... without knowing anything for sure in the end.

Ciao!



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Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:16 , Jürgen Herrmann juergen.herrm...@xlhost.de wrote:
 I successfully applied these hotfixes to Zope 2.13 versions
 without any problems. What puzzles me though is why was there
 no announcement for theses fixes here on zope ml? Or are these
 fixes not critical for pure Zope2 users? Or are these all fixed
 in the latest version of Zope2?

There was no announcement here because those patches were prepared by Plone 
developers without our knowledge and announced without our knowledge. The Zope 
developers know as much about these patches (meaning little to nothing) as any 
other Zope user.

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Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-13 Thread johannes raggam
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it was overseen.

quoting David Glick on [Zope-CMF] from 9-11-2012:


We should have informed you earlier. There are a lot of tasks
associated with preparing a hotfix (and this one in particular covered
many vulnerabilities), and it got missed. I apologize.

In the future, what's the best place to report possible CMF security
issues? zope-cmf Launchpad?


On 11/13/2012 10:30 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 
 On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:16 , Jürgen Herrmann
 juergen.herrm...@xlhost.de wrote:
 I successfully applied these hotfixes to Zope 2.13 versions 
 without any problems. What puzzles me though is why was there no
 announcement for theses fixes here on zope ml? Or are these fixes
 not critical for pure Zope2 users? Or are these all fixed in the
 latest version of Zope2?
 
 There was no announcement here because those patches were prepared
 by Plone developers without our knowledge and announced without our
 knowledge. The Zope developers know as much about these patches
 (meaning little to nothing) as any other Zope user.
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-12 Thread johannes raggam
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The affected versions go back a long time. I don't know it exactly,
but people have used it successfully with Plone 2.1 (from ancient
times) and I have patched Zope 2.8 instances too.


On 11/11/2012 09:43 PM, Allen Schmidt wrote:
 For which zope versions?
 
 On Nov 11, 2012 2:16 PM, johannes raggam raggam...@adm.at 
 mailto:raggam...@adm.at wrote:
 
 You can just apply the Plone hotfix for Zope only installations.
 The Plone patches are not applied then.
 
 Johannes
 
 On 11/11/2012 06:32 PM, Marcus Schopen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is a standard Zope affected by this security vulnerability or
 only if Plone is installed:
 
 
 http://plone.org/products/plone/security/advisories/20121106-announcement

 
 The patch is replacing some basic classes therefore it looks to
 me that Zope itself without any Plone is vulnerable too. If so
 is there a Hotfix for Zope or new Zope version which fixes these 
 bugs?
 
 Ciao Marcus
 
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-12 Thread Richard Harley

So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone?

Rich
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The affected versions go back a long time. I don't know it exactly,
but people have used it successfully with Plone 2.1 (from ancient
times) and I have patched Zope 2.8 instances too.


On 11/11/2012 09:43 PM, Allen Schmidt wrote:

For which zope versions?

On Nov 11, 2012 2:16 PM, johannes raggamraggam...@adm.at
mailto:raggam...@adm.at  wrote:

You can just apply the Plone hotfix for Zope only installations.
The Plone patches are not applied then.

Johannes

On 11/11/2012 06:32 PM, Marcus Schopen wrote:

Hi,
is a standard Zope affected by this security vulnerability or
only if Plone is installed:


http://plone.org/products/plone/security/advisories/20121106-announcement



The patch is replacing some basic classes therefore it looks to
me that Zope itself without any Plone is vulnerable too. If so
is there a Hotfix for Zope or new Zope version which fixes these
bugs?
Ciao Marcus



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Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-12 Thread Marcus Schopen
Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 12:07 + schrieb Richard Harley:
 So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone?

That's still the question to me ;)

Ciao!


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Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-12 Thread Sean Upton
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Marcus Schopen li...@localguru.de wrote:

 Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 12:07 + schrieb Richard Harley:
  So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone?

 That's still the question to me ;)


Why not try product installation and running your instance in the
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hotfix in __init__.py.  A brief look at the source will tell you that it is
unlikely you should need to do this, as conditional imports check what to
apply.

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Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-12 Thread Marcus Schopen
Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 11:13 -0700 schrieb Sean Upton:
 
 
 
 On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:31 AM, Marcus Schopen li...@localguru.de
 wrote:
 Am Montag, den 12.11.2012, 12:07 + schrieb Richard Harley:
  So, to clarify, does this affect plain Zope 2.10, no Plone?
 
 
 That's still the question to me ;)
 
 Why not try product installation and running your instance in the
 foreground.  If anything breaks, comment out any specific inapplicable
 hotfix in __init__.py.  A brief look at the source will tell you that
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Yes, we all can go the long way of try and error and code inspection ...
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Ciao!



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Re: [Zope] Zope and security vulnerability: 20121106

2012-11-11 Thread johannes raggam
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You can just apply the Plone hotfix for Zope only installations. The
Plone patches are not applied then.

Johannes

On 11/11/2012 06:32 PM, Marcus Schopen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 is a standard Zope affected by this security vulnerability or only
 if Plone is installed:
 
 http://plone.org/products/plone/security/advisories/20121106-announcement

  The patch is replacing some basic classes therefore it looks to me
 that Zope itself without any Plone is vulnerable too. If so is
 there a Hotfix for Zope or new Zope version which fixes these
 bugs?
 
 Ciao Marcus
 
 
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