Re: [Zope] installing zope in a web hosted environment
At Sunday 8/1/2006 11:47, Daniel Gross wrote: Thank you for your reply. Actually, i first installed and configured plone/zope on a local server at home. Due to problems with dynamic ip mapping i decided to move it to a hosted environment. It appears however that unfortunately i can't do it, unless i get a dedicated server, which is way too expensive for my resources and needs ... Another option would be to keep it on your local server at home and setup a dynamic dns name (try http://www.yi.org/ or many others) Gabriel Genellina Softlab SRL ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] installing zope in a web hosted environment
Hello, I am using a linux web hosting service, who has recently installed python into apache. Usually i install web products via ftp. After reading how to install zope (and plone), I couldnt find a reference how to install zope using ftp only. Is there a way to do so, also, so that zope does not use its built in web server but the apache server of the web host. appreciating your response, Daniel ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] installing zope in a web hosted environment
On 8 Jan 2006, at 14:30, Daniel Gross wrote: Hello, I am using a linux web hosting service, who has recently installed python into apache. Usually i install web products via ftp. After reading how to install zope (and plone), I couldnt find a reference how to install zope using ftp only. Is there a way to do so, also, so that zope does not use its built in web server but the apache server of the web host. You didn't find that reference because you can't do that. Simple as that I'm afraid. You need shell access to install and run Zope. jens ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] installing zope in a web hosted environment
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 09:30 -0500, Daniel Gross wrote: Hello, Hi, to install zope using ftp only. If FTP-only, you wont be abble. If you have ssh/shell acces too, it is possible if the shell is not too much restricted. Finally, on a shared hosting service, I really doubt you could do it, because of the ressources Zope could take. Zope itself is not ressources consuming, but If you add such things as Plone or CPS, you will often take 100% of the CPU, so that you could disturb your co-hosted collegues. But fisrt of all, what I advice you is to test on a local machine. Try to install linux home and then have a try with Zope... -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source GPL). Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. http://www.cps-project.org for downloads documentation. Free hosting of CPS groupware: http://www.objectis.org. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] installing zope in a web hosted environment
Hello, Thank you for your reply. Actually, i first installed and configured plone/zope on a local server at home. Due to problems with dynamic ip mapping i decided to move it to a hosted environment. It appears however that unfortunately i can't do it, unless i get a dedicated server, which is way too expensive for my resources and needs ... thanks, Daniel Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 09:30 -0500, Daniel Gross wrote: Hello, Hi, to install zope using ftp only. If FTP-only, you wont be abble. If you have ssh/shell acces too, it is possible if the shell is not too much restricted. Finally, on a shared hosting service, I really doubt you could do it, because of the ressources Zope could take. Zope itself is not ressources consuming, but If you add such things as Plone or CPS, you will often take 100% of the CPU, so that you could disturb your co-hosted collegues. But fisrt of all, what I advice you is to test on a local machine. Try to install linux home and then have a try with Zope... ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] installing zope in a web hosted environment
On 8 Jan 2006, at 14:39, Daniel Gross wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 8 Jan 2006, at 14:30, Daniel Gross wrote: Hello, I am using a linux web hosting service, who has recently installed python into apache. Usually i install web products via ftp. After reading how to install zope (and plone), I couldnt find a reference how to install zope using ftp only. Is there a way to do so, also, so that zope does not use its built in web server but the apache server of the web host. You didn't find that reference because you can't do that. Simple as that I'm afraid. You need shell access to install and run Zope. Hello Jens, Thank you for yoru prompt response. Is this an oversight, or general lack of need as virtually all Zope users run their own servers, or an inherent limitation of how Zope works ... Please keep this on the mailing list. What you are referring to is a use case Zope cannot cater for. To run a Zope server you must have certain levels of access to the server. Zope is not like a CGI-script that you can upload and run out of Apache, it is a full-blown server process on its own. This is neither an oversight nor a limitation, this requirement exists for all real server software you want to install and run. jens ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] installing zope in a web hosted environment
On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 09:47 -0500, Daniel Gross wrote: Hello, Hi, Thank you for your reply. Actually, i first installed and configured plone/zope on a local server at home. Due to problems with dynamic ip mapping i decided to move it to a hosted environment. It appears however that unfortunately i can't do it, unless i get a dedicated server, You can also rent a virtual dedicated server. Or use one of the free services available, such as: - http://www.objectis.org/. - http://wiki.python.org/moin/FreeHosts But if you have specific needs, I can lend you a part of my dedicated server, for free. It is under-used for the moment. -- A powerfull GroupWare, CMS, CRM, ECM: CPS (Open Source GPL). Opengroupware, SPIP, Plone, PhpBB, JetSpeed... are good: CPS is better. http://www.cps-project.org for downloads documentation. Free hosting of CPS groupware: http://www.objectis.org. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] installing zope in a web hosted environment
snip Thank you for your reply. Actually, i first installed and configured plone/zope on a local server at home. Due to problems with dynamic ip mapping i decided to move it to a hosted environment. It appears however that unfortunately i can't do it, unless i get a dedicated server, which is way too expensive for my resources and needs .../snip Some IP's have an upgrade to their service which will give you a static IP (for a few dollars more per month of course!) which would allow you to run on your home server. Jonathan - Original Message - From: Daniel Gross To: Rakotomandimby Mihamina Cc: zope@zope.org Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] installing zope in a "web" hosted environment Hello,Thank you for your reply. Actually, i first installed and configured plone/zope on a local server at home. Due to problems with dynamic ip mapping i decided to move it to a hosted environment. It appears however that unfortunately i can't do it, unless i get a dedicated server, which is way too expensive for my resources and needs ...thanks,DanielRakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 09:30 -0500, Daniel Gross wrote: Hello, Hi, to install zope using ftp only. If FTP-only, you wont be abble. If you have ssh/shell acces too, it is possible if the shell is not too much restricted. Finally, on a shared hosting service, I really doubt you could do it, because of the ressources Zope could take. Zope itself is not ressources consuming, but If you add such things as Plone or CPS, you will often take 100% of the CPU, so that you could disturb your co-hosted collegues. But fisrt of all, what I advice you is to test on a local machine. Try to install linux home and then have a try with Zope... ___Zope maillist - Zope@zope.orghttp://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope** No cross posts or HTML encoding! **(Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announcehttp://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
