Re: [Zope] Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: There is no standard start up script (as far as I have seen), Then you haven't been looking very hard ;-) zopectl has been standard as of 2.7.0, it can be symlinked right into /etc/init.d and works prettymuch perfectly. to the same port. There's a patch here: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1733 If that provides a commandline options to specify a port range, then it's a good patch :-) cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: Don't install Zope from OS packages like debian, they never get it right and you will just end up getting confused ;-) I don't come to this conclusion at all. That's 'cos you haven't run into the problems that come with using OS packages and the added level of maintenence they require (by the os package maintainers) - yet! The only problem with the debian package is that people on this list who don't know what is going on give unhelpful answers. Are you including yourself in that group? ;-) The recommendations not to use OS packages come from bitter experience of people who've experienced weird edge case errors and totally out of date software versions as a result of using OS packages, Debian and RedHat being prime examples... This is the message that is printed by debian's /etc/init.d/zope2.7 when no instances exist yet. Run mkzope2.7instance to make an instance. As was already mentioned, all this is explained by debconf when you install debian on Zope. It's probably a bug worth fixing, though. It should say No instances have been created yet. Yes, my point exactly. If you use a standard source install, many more people will have seen any message you see and are likely to be able to help. Adding non-standard setup scripts like this means there's another opportunity for bugs to creep in and something else that needs to be maintained. I think it's worth installing the zope package, but not the products from the debian packages, unless they are zope2.7 packages, but there aren't many of those. Yes, layering a pluggable distribution system over a plugin system seems somewhat bizarre... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
charlie derr wrote: I (a relative zope amateur) would offer my own counter-experience. I recently set up zope-coreblog and zope2.7 (using packages from debian sarge/testing), and it's been running with very few issues for several months (and I additionally was able to get ldap integration working using the ldapuserfolder Product) Wait till you want to use a feature or need a bugfix from a later point release than the one you're currently on ;-) cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
The moral of this whole story seems to shine through: Don't install Zope from OS packages like debian, they never get it right and you will just end up getting confused ;-) cheers, Chris Andreas Pakulat wrote: On 01.Apr 2005 - 14:34:22, Peter Bittner wrote: Hi there! I am running a Debian Linux box with Debian/testing (Sarge) and I am trying to get Plone up and running. I have made a clean, new install of the whole system last week, so all packages are really up-to-date and there was no dirty installation that was updated. I have noticed that the Plone package on Debian is or was somewhat broken, but there was a notice about that on the Plone website (download page) which has disappeared. For me that looked like this problem was fixed by the package maintainer. Unfortunately still, after installing Plone (and implicitly thus Zope 2.7) Zope did not want to come up, saying: Did you read the debconf-pages that were presented to you during the installation of zope and plone? I guess not, because else you won't ask that question. Short answer: create a new Zope instance using mkzope2.7instance, check it's config and remove the '#' on the lines: products /usr/lib/zope2.7/lib/python/Products products /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products products $INSTANCE/Products To have Zope 2.7 find the Plone Product. The documentation of Zope and Plone will explain why you need to do that. Zope starting all instances '*' is an old/purged instance, not started Looks like Zope2.7 finds an old 2.6 instance, but I'm not sure... Andreas -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
On 04.Apr 2005 - 14:02:43, Chris Withers wrote: The moral of this whole story seems to shine through: Don't install Zope from OS packages like debian, they never get it right and you will just end up getting confused ;-) Yepp, especially, since Zope is that easy to install into your home... Andreas -- Chicken Little was right. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
On 01.Apr 2005 - 14:34:22, Peter Bittner wrote: Hi there! I am running a Debian Linux box with Debian/testing (Sarge) and I am trying to get Plone up and running. I have made a clean, new install of the whole system last week, so all packages are really up-to-date and there was no dirty installation that was updated. I have noticed that the Plone package on Debian is or was somewhat broken, but there was a notice about that on the Plone website (download page) which has disappeared. For me that looked like this problem was fixed by the package maintainer. Unfortunately still, after installing Plone (and implicitly thus Zope 2.7) Zope did not want to come up, saying: Did you read the debconf-pages that were presented to you during the installation of zope and plone? I guess not, because else you won't ask that question. Short answer: create a new Zope instance using mkzope2.7instance, check it's config and remove the '#' on the lines: products /usr/lib/zope2.7/lib/python/Products products /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products products $INSTANCE/Products To have Zope 2.7 find the Plone Product. The documentation of Zope and Plone will explain why you need to do that. Zope starting all instances '*' is an old/purged instance, not started Looks like Zope2.7 finds an old 2.6 instance, but I'm not sure... Andreas -- You're definitely on their list. The question to ask next is what list it is. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
