[Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
Wolfgang Strobl wrote: On 30 Oct 2000, 17:32 Michel Pelletier wrote: Amos and I are gibbering like madmen with excitement to announce the Zope Book Beta. [...] Great! For my own use, I'Ve just created a fully indexed MS-Windows HTMHelp-Version, see http://www.zope.org/Members/strobl, that I want to share with others doing Zope work on that platform. I believe that O'Reilly doesn't want the book redistributed before it is printed. I'll recheck with them. Take a look at the copyright stuff info on each page. Luckily the book will soon be under an open content license, and then you'll be free to do what ever you wish. Thanks for taking a look at the book! -Amos -- Amos Latteier mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
On 31 Oct 2000, at 10:39, Amos Latteier wrote: I believe that O'Reilly doesn't want the book redistributed before it is printed. It's gone. I'll recheck with them. No need to. But what is the meaning of This is the one to print out and give to your friends as christmas gifts, folks, so get crackin and start reading at." in the announcement? Take a look at the copyright stuff info on each page. didn't restribute it, I uploaded the same content in a different format to the very same site I got it from: www.zope.org. -- Wolfgang Strobl ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
Wolfgang Strobl wrote: On 31 Oct 2000, at 10:39, Amos Latteier wrote: I believe that O'Reilly doesn't want the book redistributed before it is printed. It's gone. I'll recheck with them. No need to. But what is the meaning of This is the one to print out and give to your friends as christmas gifts, folks, so get crackin and start reading at." in the announcement? That was a joke. Sorry. -Michel ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
On 31 Oct 2000, at 12:54, Michel Pelletier wrote: That was a joke. Sorry. Uh, oh. Well, my thought was as follows: people are already annoucing making PDF versions, which are a much greater potential harm to to the number of sales of a printed book.With a good pdf file, I can get to my local prinshop and get a perfect bounded book back within half an hour. On the other hand, a MS HTML help file is of little use other than having a compact, searchable file which fits well into a development environment on Windows. Frankly, I can't see how these could do any harm to selling your book. To the contrary; I tend to beleive that having a properly indexed and tightly integrated online format might even might help selling the book. For example; I have HTML help versions _and_ printed copies of the - outdated - Zope docs, and one of each from the actual howto-collection, and I'm using them both. -- Wolfgang Strobl ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
At 10/31/00 11:08 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: For example; I have HTML help versions _and_ printed copies of the - outdated - Zope docs, and one of each from the actual howto-collection, and I'm using them both. Wolfgang - How about putting up your HTML help version of the howto-collection? That would be very cool. Thanks! -- Dennis Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: On 31 Oct 2000, at 12:54, Michel Pelletier wrote: That was a joke. Sorry. Uh, oh. Well, my thought was as follows: people are already annoucing making PDF versions, which are a much greater potential harm to to the number of sales of a printed book.With a good pdf file, I can get to my local prinshop and get a perfect bounded book back within half an hour. On the other hand, a MS HTML help file is of little use other than having a compact, searchable file which fits well into a development environment on Windows. Frankly, I can't see how these could do any harm to selling your book. To the contrary; I tend to beleive that having a properly indexed and tightly integrated online format might even might help selling the book. I certainly can't speak for O'Rielly, but I can take a guess at their logic. It goes something like this: If people begin reproducing copies of the book, in PDF, HTML Help, whatever form, and distributing it, they will soon be all over the net. It is not in its finished form. It may have misspellings, or technical errors that will (hopefully) be corrected before publication. When the final version comes out, will they be able to guarantee that all old copies of the book are updated with the final version? If someone downloads a copy with a lot of errors, and gets a bad impression of the book, is that fair to O'Reilly, given that it was not the final version they were looking at? If we simply wait until its final before reproducing it, this becomes much easier to manage. At least, that's my $0.02. Wolfgang Strobl --Jeff --- Jeff K. Hoffman 704.849.0731 x108 Chief Technology Officer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Going Virtual, L.L.C. http://www.goingv.com/ ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
