Re: [Zope] Squid ESI
--On 1. Juni 2008 02:37:07 -0300 Luciano Ramalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm reviving this thread from 2006 hoping to hear news about current ESI usage in the Zope community. Has anyone since then had success deploying sites with ESI-enabled caching? Using Squid, Varnish or any other product? Never heard of anyone using ESI in production. Consider it being a dead horse or being used by only by a few people. -aj pgpHs6Hbr4H4s.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Squid ESI
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Luciano Ramalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm reviving this thread from 2006 hoping to hear news about current ESI usage in the Zope community. Has anyone since then had success deploying sites with ESI-enabled caching? Using Squid, Varnish or any other product? Lovely systems did a talk touching upon this subject about this last year at EP2007: http://plone.tv/media/689203036/view http://www.zope.de/redaktion/dzug/tagung/potsdam-2007/folien/potsdam-zope3-performance.pdf/download They also blogged about their SSI solution: http://valentinewebsystems.com/topics/ssi Here's the relevant README (pretty parse): http://svn.zope.org/lovely.remoteinclude/trunk/src/lovely/remoteinclude/README.txt?rev=76474view=auto -- Martijn Pieters ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Squid ESI
I'm reviving this thread from 2006 hoping to hear news about current ESI usage in the Zope community. Has anyone since then had success deploying sites with ESI-enabled caching? Using Squid, Varnish or any other product? Cheers, Luciano On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 4:51 AM, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/30/06, Andrew Langmead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't involved in the Squid3/ESI work done at boston.com before, so I don't know if there are any issues beyond the ones I resolved in getting things to build. At the time I was involved the implementation came up short of anything useful and was prone to crashing the server. 2 of the bugs I filed at the time are still listed as 'open', and IIRC I didn't get round to filing a bug for everything I found (I communicated those to Robert directly). Here are the open bugs: http://www.squid-cache.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=652 http://www.squid-cache.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=656 -- Martijn Pieters ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Squid ESI
Yes it works; we have some stuff working here at my place of employment. I had some problems getting the right squid build to work last year when looking at this for a customer, but since the team here has had no problems that I'm aware of with current builds. Andrew On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 19:44 +, Chris Withers wrote: Alan Milligan wrote: We haven't had any problems in building Squid-3.x images ...with ESI enabled? I've also heard of at least one other abandoned Squid3 rollout, and it's quite possible that without Robert's participation, Squid3 isn't really production strength. Yup, that and Squid 3's not production quality status makes the whole Squid/ESI thing a total non-starter, which is a shame... ...but I do wish, as a result, that people would stop touting it as a way to scale Zope apps. cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Squid ESI
Andrew Sawyers wrote: Yes it works; we have some stuff working here at my place of employment. I had some problems getting the right squid build to work last year when looking at this for a customer, but since the team here has had no problems that I'm aware of with current builds. Perhaps you could write a short how-to describing the exact versions you used? Both myself and Jens had little joy with this... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Squid ESI
On Jan 30, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Chris Withers wrote: Perhaps you could write a short how-to describing the exact versions you used? Both myself and Jens had little joy with this... I just managed to build myself an ESI enabled Squid3 with the following configure invocation. It is based roughly on the example on longsleep.org,but it removes the ssl module and adds one critically needed adjustment of specifying libxml2 env CXXFLAGS=`xml2-config --cflags` CFLAGS=$CXXFLAGS LDFLAGS=`xml2-config --libs` sh configure --prefix=/usr/local/ squid3 --enable-gnuregex -with-pthreads --enable-esi --enable- storeio=ufs,aufs --with-aufs-threads=10 --enable-useragent-log -- enable-referer-log --enable-x-accelerator-vary --with-dl make sudo make install Getting the SSL module to work seemed to require one small adjustment to to the source in src/client_side.cc . I'll try to get a patch to configure.in together so that the correct paths are recognized automatically. I wasn't involved in the Squid3/ESI work done at boston.com before, so I don't know if there are any issues beyond the ones I resolved in getting things to build. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Squid ESI
On 1/30/06, Andrew Langmead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't involved in the Squid3/ESI work done at boston.com before, so I don't know if there are any issues beyond the ones I resolved in getting things to build. At the time I was involved the implementation came up short of anything useful and was prone to crashing the server. 2 of the bugs I filed at the time are still listed as 'open', and IIRC I didn't get round to filing a bug for everything I found (I communicated those to Robert directly). Here are the open bugs: http://www.squid-cache.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=652 http://www.squid-cache.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=656 -- Martijn Pieters ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Squid ESI
Alan Milligan wrote: We haven't had any problems in building Squid-3.x images ...with ESI enabled? I've also heard of at least one other abandoned Squid3 rollout, and it's quite possible that without Robert's participation, Squid3 isn't really production strength. Yup, that and Squid 3's not production quality status makes the whole Squid/ESI thing a total non-starter, which is a shame... ...but I do wish, as a result, that people would stop touting it as a way to scale Zope apps. cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Squid ESI
Paul Winkler wrote: (and final page composition) downstream. This generally means either: - Squid and ESI Has anyone actually implemented this? I see it thrown out as a suggestion quite often, but when I tried the how-to on longsleep.org yesterday I found that the latest Squid 3.0 pre-release won't even compile with ESI enabled :-( cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Squid ESI
On 1/25/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone actually implemented this? I see it thrown out as a suggestion quite often, but when I tried the how-to on longsleep.org yesterday I found that the latest Squid 3.0 pre-release won't even compile with ESI enabled :-( Squid 3.0 is a bit of an orphan. Zope Corp at one point paid for ESI support in Squid 3.0 for the Boston.com project, but it was never used for Boston in the end and development on it stalled. With Squid 2.x meeting current demands and little funding and incentive for completing ESI development this has fallen by the wayside. I certianly haven't touched Squid 3.0/ESI since the Boston.com days, and as far as I know only one or two others in the Zope community have looked at it since. -- Martijn Pieters ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
