Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-20 Thread Chris Withers

David Pratt wrote:
for this feedback. I will be evaluating this option as well.  There are 
differences in licensing that may be a factor in what I decide to use 
after some evaluation.  BSD with XUF compared to MIT with 
SimpleUserFolder.  


Huh?! What exactly is the problems with the MIT license? It's prettymuch 
the simplest and least restrictive open source license out there, which 
is why I selected it. Did you actually read the license file? ;-)


 I try to learn from GPL-like sources as opposed to using them in my
 code.

The MIT license has NOTHING to do with the GPL.

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Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-16 Thread David Pratt
Hi Garth. Yes, it is very compact compared to XUF for sure. Thank you 
for this feedback. I will be evaluating this option as well.  There are 
differences in licensing that may be a factor in what I decide to use 
after some evaluation.  BSD with XUF compared to MIT with 
SimpleUserFolder.  I have tended to stick with ZPL and BSD only 
sources. I try to learn from GPL-like sources as opposed to using them 
in my code. This may be a factor in my decision despite the fact that 
SimpleUserFolder may be smaller and simpler to implement.


Regards,
David

On Friday, July 15, 2005, at 08:57 PM, Garth B. wrote:


For what it's worth, I recently used the SimpleUserFolder for an
application that uses Postgres as the backend.  It was terrifically
easy to implement authentication through Postgres via the
SimpleUserFolder.  It does exactly what I want without unnecessary
frill or complications.

Garth


On 7/15/05, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

David Pratt wrote at 2005-7-14 20:30 -0300:

Thanks Dieter. I was really hoping it is a good solution since it is
the only User Folder product for Postgres that I have seen thus far.


Chris Withers would tell you, that Simple User Folder can do this
as well :-)

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Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-15 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Am Donnerstag, den 14.07.2005, 12:46 -0300 schrieb David Pratt:
 I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres.  Any users of 
 this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on 
 how this solution is working for them. Many thanks.

I use it but in a very hacked up form because I need inline auth
and I wanted sha1 hash instead of the default crypt.

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Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-15 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ Tino Wildenhain ]--
| Am Donnerstag, den 14.07.2005, 12:46 -0300 schrieb David Pratt:
|  I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres.  Any users of 
|  this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on 
|  how this solution is working for them. Many thanks.
| 
| I use it but in a very hacked up form because I need inline auth
| and I wanted sha1 hash instead of the default crypt.

BTW, the 0.50.x branch has pluggable crypt types..

crypt, md5, sha are part of the crypts you can pick.. or you can write your
own in about 30 seconds if you need something else.

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Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-15 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Am Freitag, den 15.07.2005, 16:25 +1000 schrieb Andrew Milton:
 +---[ Tino Wildenhain ]--
 | Am Donnerstag, den 14.07.2005, 12:46 -0300 schrieb David Pratt:
 |  I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres.  Any users of 
 |  this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on 
 |  how this solution is working for them. Many thanks.
 | 
 | I use it but in a very hacked up form because I need inline auth
 | and I wanted sha1 hash instead of the default crypt.
 
 BTW, the 0.50.x branch has pluggable crypt types..
 
 crypt, md5, sha are part of the crypts you can pick.. or you can write your
 own in about 30 seconds if you need something else.
 
Well this sha1 patch wasnt the real hard work ;-)

Inline auth was the real nut to crack. And the fact XUF returns HTML
instead of using appropriate exceptions add to the complexity :-)

I hope PAS will fill the gap although it isnt yet ready for prime time.

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Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-15 Thread David Pratt

Thanks Tino and Andrew. This is all useful feedback.

Regards,
David

On Friday, July 15, 2005, at 05:11 AM, Tino Wildenhain wrote:


Am Freitag, den 15.07.2005, 16:25 +1000 schrieb Andrew Milton:

+---[ Tino Wildenhain ]--
| Am Donnerstag, den 14.07.2005, 12:46 -0300 schrieb David Pratt:
|  I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres.  Any users 
of
|  this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) 
on

|  how this solution is working for them. Many thanks.
|
| I use it but in a very hacked up form because I need inline auth
| and I wanted sha1 hash instead of the default crypt.

BTW, the 0.50.x branch has pluggable crypt types..

crypt, md5, sha are part of the crypts you can pick.. or you can 
write your

own in about 30 seconds if you need something else.


Well this sha1 patch wasnt the real hard work ;-)

Inline auth was the real nut to crack. And the fact XUF returns HTML
instead of using appropriate exceptions add to the complexity :-)

I hope PAS will fill the gap although it isnt yet ready for prime time.

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Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-15 Thread Chris Withers

David Pratt wrote:
I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres.  Any users of this 
combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on how this 
solution is working for them. Many thanks.


You might want to take a look at SimpleUserFolder. It's a lot more light 
weight that XUF and handles RDB-based auth of any variety really well...


cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-15 Thread Dieter Maurer
David Pratt wrote at 2005-7-14 20:30 -0300:
Thanks Dieter. I was really hoping it is a good solution since it is 
the only User Folder product for Postgres that I have seen thus far.

Chris Withers would tell you, that Simple User Folder can do this
as well :-)

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Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-15 Thread Garth B.
For what it's worth, I recently used the SimpleUserFolder for an
application that uses Postgres as the backend.  It was terrifically
easy to implement authentication through Postgres via the
SimpleUserFolder.  It does exactly what I want without unnecessary
frill or complications.

Garth


On 7/15/05, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Pratt wrote at 2005-7-14 20:30 -0300:
 Thanks Dieter. I was really hoping it is a good solution since it is
 the only User Folder product for Postgres that I have seen thus far.
 
 Chris Withers would tell you, that Simple User Folder can do this
 as well :-)
 
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Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-14 Thread Dieter Maurer
David Pratt wrote at 2005-7-14 12:46 -0300:
I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres.  Any users of 
this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on 
how this solution is working for them.

We use it and are satisfied with it.

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Re: [Zope] XUF and Postgres

2005-07-14 Thread David Pratt
Thanks Dieter. I was really hoping it is a good solution since it is 
the only User Folder product for Postgres that I have seen thus far.


Regards
David

On Thursday, July 14, 2005, at 06:49 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote:


David Pratt wrote at 2005-7-14 12:46 -0300:

I am looking at using the ExUserFolder with Postgres.  Any users of
this combination that could share feedback (positive or negative) on
how this solution is working for them.


We use it and are satisfied with it.

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