Re: [Zope] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers wrote at 2009-4-2 21:29 +0100: Andreas Jung wrote: Andrew others have been working on this issue at the sprint. There is consensus that www.zope.org must be turned into landing page with some mission statement and then links to the related subprojects. The current zope.org site should be moved to old.zope.org (it must remain available for the time being (with URL redirections to the Products and Member area). Why does it need to keep living even at old.zope.org? Because members put there content (product implementations) still usable? There really should be not problem to integrate current www.zope.org/Products and www.zope.org/Members including the LDAP authentication service into an new www.zope.org. No need to break any links - we already did similar with moving DevHome wikis out to wiki.zope.org. I'd be happy to adjust the current skins (Plone1.0.3) to whatever look is needed. Regards Michael - -- http://blog.d2m.at http://planetzope.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ2GPfl0uAvQJUKVYRAs8rAJ49vcytk452m3tLmAx8zAO76SsmXgCdEXPT 6VfdYi9qIEwq4tcIojsxFSQ= =P5SS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...
Andrew Milton wrote: +---[ Chris Withers ]-- | Remember this: | Seriously, how do people feel about this? You can do anything you want with your time... who are we to judge? d8) Well, if there were no complaints I might do just that... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...
Andrew Milton wrote: | - mature | - stable | - maybe not the best choice for new development. ^ for you Indeed, but classic doesn't have any bad connotations as far as I'm concerned, and it'll need to keep living as long as Plone relies on it, which will be forever... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...
Andrew Milton wrote: | Why does it need to keep living even at old.zope.org? Why do you care if it does? Because someone needs to look after the (rather large, ancient and crufty) zope instance in which it lives, and it keeps on tripping up innocent passers-by. I don't think many of these passers by will be put off by the old.zope.org url and we'll still end up with people wondering why LocalFS doesn't work in Zope Classic 4.0 ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...
Andrew Milton wrote: | Indeed, but classic doesn't have any bad connotations as far as I'm | concerned, and it'll need to keep living as long as Plone relies on it, | which will be forever... Plenty of people use it without plone. You might want to crawl out of the vacuum you live in. Yes, and I'm one of them, but I don't think it's fair to try and tempt new users into it... I'm happy to be proven wrong by you writing lots of decent docs, picking up maintenance of zope.org and LocalFS ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...
Remember this: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/04/01/parrot.htm Well, that lead to this: http://www.parrot.org/ One of the reasons I got suckered into replying was that I thought this might be the result of some stuff a few of us had talked about at the Zope BOF at PyCon. I actually think having a 4.0 release of Zope that unifies things could be used to make things a lot clearer... - Zope Framework 4.0 What Martijn has announced and is already being worked on extensively. - Zope A 4.0 What was to be Zope 2.12 - Zope B 4.0 Whatever the next pending release of the Zope 3 appserver stuff was to be. (Need to keep the Canonical and ZC guys happy afterall ;-) ) www.zope.org could then just be a radically cut down link portal to a.zope.org, b.zope.org and framework.zope.org, which I'd imagine to be brochurewear, download and/or KGS sites for each of the above. I'd suggesting splitting the svn access stuff out to dev.zope.org because it transcends all three. docs.zope.org could hoover up the rest, with any remaining stuff being humanely dispatched. Seriously, how do people feel about this? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...
+---[ Chris Withers ]-- | Remember this: | Seriously, how do people feel about this? You can do anything you want with your time... who are we to judge? d8) -- Andrew Milton a...@theinternet.com.au ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 4.0, maybe not such a bad idea...
Andrew Milton wrote: +---[ Chris Withers ]-- | Remember this: | Seriously, how do people feel about this? You can do anything you want with your time... who are we to judge? d8) Well, if there were no complaints I might do just that... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
