Re: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-28 Thread Yves-Eric Martin

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:30:41 +0200
"Johan Carlsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have another feature that would be nice for the zzLocale framework.
 Support for localized images. As far as I know the Zope Management 
 Interface doesn't use any images containing strings, but I know that I might 
 use images that needs to be localized in my products. 

So far, there is no specific plan to provide localized images
support. In fact, you can already use the current framework to provide
localized images: since the images are usually referenced by an IMG
tag in a DTML code, and since zzLocale allows you to localize this
DTML code, you can do the following:

In the French DTML template: img src="fr_icon"
In the Swedish DTML template: img src="sv_icon"

Create the appropriate fr_icon and sv_icon, and there you are:
localized images! :)



 Are there any zzLocale Wiki for frameworks discussions?

No there isn't, but thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into
creating one.



Regards,


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Re: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-27 Thread Yves-Eric Martin

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:59:32 +0200
"Johan Carlsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's absolutly brilliant!

Thanks for the support. :)


 What are the performance impact of the zzLocale?
 Do more installed translations effect performance in any way.

On our test machines, we did not notice any significant performance
loss when using zzLocale. But we made no actual measurement, and these
machines were not loaded at all. Performances may degrade:

zzLocale creates some overhead at Zope initialization, when it loads
all the localized templates, then at every call of a management screen,
when it must decide which localized screen to use according to the
REQUEST and server settings. Other Zope operations should not be
affected.

The first overhead may get longer as more localized templates are
installed. But anyway, since this matters only once, at initialization,
I don't think it will ever be a problem.

The second overhead, however, happens every time a management screen
is accessed. Luckily it is almost independent from the number of
templates installed, and should be reasonably small. But it is here
anyway, and on a site with many managers, there might be some loss in
performance...


Anyone for a quick performance testing?


Regards,

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Re: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-27 Thread Johan Carlsson


I have another feature that would be nice for the zzLocale framework.
Support for localized images. As far as I know the Zope Management 
Interface doesn't use any images containing strings, but I know that I might 
use images that needs to be localized in my products. 

Maybe that's a requirement you can take in consideration?

Are there any zzLocale Wiki for frameworks discussions?

Regards,
Johan

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Re: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-26 Thread Johan Carlsson


 "Johan Carlsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Are there any plans on expanding the framework to include
  python embedded strings.
 
 Yes there is, and that's what the development of zzLocale is now
 centered on. We are still in an early design stage, so I cannot give you
 much information or any expected release date, but the next version of
 zzLocale will definitively include some python-embedded strings
 localization features.
 

That's absolutly brilliant!

What are the performance impact of the zzLocale?
Do more installed translations effect performance in any way.

//Johan



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[Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-25 Thread Johan Carlsson


Yves-Eric,
Brilliant product!
Are there any plans on expanding the framework to include
python embedded strings.
I know it's would be hard to identify all strings in Zope itself,
but providing a framework would encurage python product 
developers that care about i18n and give them a perferd method.

Best Regards,
Johan Carlsson

 
 
  Hi Zopistas,
  
  
  This is the second alpha release of zzLocale, a Zope locale support
  Product.
  
  zzLocale provides a framework for Zope interface internationalization
  (Zope and Products management screens). The localization is done on a
  per request basis, which allows developers from different countries to
  work on the same Zope while each of them having an interface in his
  native language.
  
  With zzLocale, Product developers can easily provide localized
  interfaces for their Products. All that is needed is to put the
  localized interface DTML templates in a "locales/[lang]" subdirectory of
  the Product, and zzLocale does the rest.
  
  This version of zzLocale is pretty useable, and usually falls back
  nicely when something goes wrong. However, it is still alpha, and we
  would not recommend using it on a production server.
  
  This release includes a complete (I mean, as complete as current
  zzLocale features permit) French interface, and a partial Japanese one.
  Tranlators are welcome to provide other languages. Please send us your
  translated templates so that we can include them in the next release.
  
  
For more information and download:
  http://www.zope.ne.jp/users/yemartin/zzLocale
  
  
  
Regards,
  
  
  -- 
  Yves-Eric Martin
  Digital Garage Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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Re: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-25 Thread Yves-Eric Martin

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:37:20 +0200
"Johan Carlsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are there any plans on expanding the framework to include
 python embedded strings.

Yes there is, and that's what the development of zzLocale is now
centered on. We are still in an early design stage, so I cannot give you
much information or any expected release date, but the next version of
zzLocale will definitively include some python-embedded strings
localization features.


Regards,

-- 
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Digital Garage Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-21 Thread Yves-Eric Martin

Hi Zopistas,


This is the second alpha release of zzLocale, a Zope locale support
Product.

zzLocale provides a framework for Zope interface internationalization
(Zope and Products management screens). The localization is done on a
per request basis, which allows developers from different countries to
work on the same Zope while each of them having an interface in his
native language.

With zzLocale, Product developers can easily provide localized
interfaces for their Products. All that is needed is to put the
localized interface DTML templates in a "locales/[lang]" subdirectory of
the Product, and zzLocale does the rest.

This version of zzLocale is pretty useable, and usually falls back
nicely when something goes wrong. However, it is still alpha, and we
would not recommend using it on a production server.

This release includes a complete (I mean, as complete as current
zzLocale features permit) French interface, and a partial Japanese one.
Tranlators are welcome to provide other languages. Please send us your
translated templates so that we can include them in the next release.


  For more information and download:
http://www.zope.ne.jp/users/yemartin/zzLocale



  Regards,


-- 
Yves-Eric Martin
Digital Garage Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-21 Thread Peter Bengtsson

IN SWEDISH - ABOUT SWEDISH

Finns det ett intresse av fler an mig att jobba med detta?
Om, det gor det, hur manga blir vi, och hur ska vi lagga upp arbetet?

Smidigast vore ju att ge deltagare access till .dtml filer, med version'ing,
pa en och samma server.
Syftet ar nog mest att skriva om sidor som klienter kan tenkas anvanda.

Intresserad?

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From: Yves-Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 10:53 AM
Subject: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan


 Hi Zopistas,


 This is the second alpha release of zzLocale, a Zope locale support
 Product.

 zzLocale provides a framework for Zope interface internationalization
 (Zope and Products management screens). The localization is done on a
 per request basis, which allows developers from different countries to
 work on the same Zope while each of them having an interface in his
 native language.

 With zzLocale, Product developers can easily provide localized
 interfaces for their Products. All that is needed is to put the
 localized interface DTML templates in a "locales/[lang]" subdirectory of
 the Product, and zzLocale does the rest.

 This version of zzLocale is pretty useable, and usually falls back
 nicely when something goes wrong. However, it is still alpha, and we
 would not recommend using it on a production server.

 This release includes a complete (I mean, as complete as current
 zzLocale features permit) French interface, and a partial Japanese one.
 Tranlators are welcome to provide other languages. Please send us your
 translated templates so that we can include them in the next release.


   For more information and download:
 http://www.zope.ne.jp/users/yemartin/zzLocale



   Regards,


 --
 Yves-Eric Martin
 Digital Garage Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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