Re: [Zope] Not like ASP complaint - any good answers

2000-09-04 Thread Bill Anderson
Sean McGrath wrote: All, I have had a number of e-mails from developers using Microsoft ASP in recent days. The paraphrased consensus in the e-mails is that the external methods/python methods approach to mixing markup with code in Zope is more clunky than in ASP where you can

Re: [Zope] Not like ASP complaint - any good answers

2000-08-25 Thread Phil Harris
I can't say I see too much difference between the way Zope and ASP accomplish things, Zope has External Methods and Products, ASP has COM objects which I'd say are a darn sight harder to grok. Fact is that if these developers say you can do everything in VB/Jscript in an ASP page then they are

Re: [Zope] Not like ASP complaint - any good answers

2000-08-25 Thread Peter Bengtsson
Sean Just ignore them. I used to be an ASP developer myself not long code ago. What do you mean "intermingle"? If you want to loop though a list or db-table row, you will have to "intermingle" your good old TD and TR tags. There is no way of getting around that in ASP as far as I know, unless

RE: [Zope] Not like ASP complaint - any good answers

2000-08-24 Thread Chris McDonough
Sean, This is mostly on purpose. It will probably only get more like this in time to come. There's a good article on this topic (although it deals with JSP as opposed to ASP) at http://www.servlets.com/soapbox/problems-jsp.html -Original Message- From: Sean McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Zope] Not like ASP complaint - any good answers

2000-08-24 Thread Luciano Ramalho
Intermingling application logic with HTML code is a good idea if these conditions are met: 1) your website logic and its graphic design always change in sync; 2) you have more real programmers than HTML coders; 3) your programmers´ workload is so light that you don´t care about reusing code;

Re: [Zope] Not like ASP complaint - any good answers

2000-08-24 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+---[ Sean McGrath ]-- | All, | | I have had a number of e-mails from developers | using Microsoft ASP in recent days. The paraphrased consensus | in the e-mails is that the external | methods/python methods approach to mixing markup | with code in Zope is more clunky