Re: [Zope] Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please
On Tuesday 23 January 2001, at 23 h 17, the keyboard of "alankirk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using Zope 2.2.2 on windows(this time i'd appreciate no sarcastic = comments this time) Feel free to interpret every comment you don't like as "sarcastic", but it will not save your business. to this address) and the response has been pretty poor, i've even tried = to email people involved with the mysql database adaptors and got no = response. You use a commercial operating system: pay for a commercial support. It is really important that i get this problem sorted now if possible as = my final year project for university depends on this 'bug' getting = fixed. If it is important, do not run it on MS-Windows. Otherwise, some people may think you know nothing about software... ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please
- Original Message - From: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope] Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please On Tuesday 23 January 2001, at 23 h 17, the keyboard of "alankirk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using Zope 2.2.2 on windows(this time i'd appreciate no sarcastic = comments this time) Feel free to interpret every comment you don't like as "sarcastic", but it will not save your business. to this address) and the response has been pretty poor, i've even tried = to email people involved with the mysql database adaptors and got no = response. You use a commercial operating system: pay for a commercial support. It is really important that i get this problem sorted now if possible as = my final year project for university depends on this 'bug' getting = fixed. If it is important, do not run it on MS-Windows. Otherwise, some people may think you know nothing about software... And this kind of harsh response was necessary, because... ? /dario *end of thread* - Dario Lopez-Ksten Systems Developer Chalmers Univ. of Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ will yield no hitsIT Systems Services ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 11:17:32PM -, alankirk wrote: Hi there, i sent an email the other week regarding problems i've been experiencing with zope and MySQL. I've set up a database connection for zope and mysql and it sort of works. I can send queries to add data to my database ok but when i send a query to get data from my database i get one of 3 errors and my python server that zope runs from stops. The errors i get are Python experienced an error in (either nothing,MYSQL.DLL or PYTHON15.DLL). I am using Zope 2.2.2 on windows(this time i'd appreciate no sarcastic comments this time) I've sent a few emails about this problem to various people (including to this address) and the response has been pretty poor, i've even tried to email people involved with the mysql database adaptors and got no response. It is really important that i get this problem sorted now if possible as my final year project for university depends on this 'bug' getting fixed. If you can give me help on this or point me in the direction of someone who can, i'd be grateful Cheers Alan Alan: This is not meant sarcastically. You are probably the only person who has ever tried to do this! Probably no one can help you. (In case people don't remember, Alan is working on Win9x; windows 98, as I recall.) I thought it was ME. But hopefully it was 98 You are working on a platform which is known for instability, with limited debugging capabilities. I urge you to either change to NT/SQL Server or to Linux/MySql or to Linux/PostgeSQL. I can help you with the last, I suspect others can help you with either of the first two. [...] I have to concur here. I do a _lot_ of development against MySQL -- I've dealt with it on both Win32 and various *NIXes. MySQL is really much more at home in a *NIX environment. If you're completely tied to Win32, you'd likely save yourself a lot of grief by moving to Win NT. And if you go that far, I have to agree with Mr. Penny that SQL Server would be a much better choice on NT for a DB. My experiences with MySQL on NT have tended to be frustrating -- but then I'm a fairly poor NT admin. But on *NIX MySQL is both extremely easy to administer and solid as a rock. Of course, I was a college student not so long ago, and know well that an NT license isn't cheap. And neither is SQL Server. But maybe you have a rich relative. If not and you still really want this to work, here's my sarcasm-free suggestion. Pick up a used low-end Pentium. I just grabbed a P120 with 32 megs of RAM, a 750 meg HD and a 3Com EtherLink III for 80 bucks for use as a firewall. You could probably do better if you shopped around. If you intend to put both Zope and MySQL on the this box, I would up the RAM to 64 megs. The whole thing should certainly set you back less than 100 bucks. Now install Linux. If you're new to it, pick an easy distro like RedHat or Mandrake. Both have a very strait-forward install process. If the idea if installing Linux by yourself for the first time makes your hands tremble, find your local Linux User Group (LUG). If you're at a big university, check with the CS department. They can probably give you a contact. In all likelihood, somebody in the LUG will be falling over himself (herself?) to help you out. FreeNIX people are usually like that. Worst come to worst, a case of cheap beer should buy you a working install of Linux/MySQL. In fact, if you happen to live in Alaska I'll do it for that price! Once you're at that point you'll probably find a lot more help. I think your problem at this point is simply that you have a fairly exotic configuration. Most people haven't seen the problems you're having because they aren't using the same platform. Both Zope and MySQL are server software packages, and server software usually finds its home on server OSes. And even though Zope seems to bridge the great MS/*NIX cultural divide quite nicely, MySQL is really from a *NIX world. I think it's just not a common choice for databases amongst Microsoft devotees. I would guess that 95+ percent of people who have tried to connect Zope and MySQL have been working with some UNIX variant, and of those the majority are probably using some flavor of Linux. So I guess I could distill all of this advice down to one simple statement: If you pick a software combination used by a large number of people, you'll likely find yourself with a strong base of user support. If you use an unusual combination, you may have to tough it out on your own. Best 'o luck! //glw ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please
Hi, I see that you get all kinds of responses on the zope mailing list regarding Zope, mySQL and Windows. Hate to see that ... well .. to your problems: I run Windows 2000 on my laptop with Zope 2.2.4 and mySQL 3.23.30. I even run the same Zope and mySQL setup on a Compaq server with Windows 4.0 in a production environment. Not the kind of setup I would prefer, but my customer wanted it installed on this server. Anyway: the setup is 100% stable, and I and my customer is really satisfied with the solution. I had problems getting things working when I compiled the mysql.dll file manually. Instead, I downloaded the files as specified in the HOW-TO on mySQL in win32 environment. With these files installed I have no problems performing different queries, inserts, updates etc in the mySQL database. I have not experienced one crash!! The setup has also been tested (though not thorougly) under Windows 95 and Windows 98! So: try to follow the HOW-TO and download the files specified there. Setting up Zope mySQL on Win32 machines takes no for me at all, and it always runs very well!! Best of luck to you! Best regards Petter Enholm
RE: [Zope] Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of alankirk Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Zope] Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please I am using Zope 2.2.2 on windows(this time i'd appreciate no sarcastic comments this time) I just installed MySQL 3.23.32 on Win 2000 Pro with Zope 2.3b2 by following this HowTo: http://www.zope.org/Members/philh/mysql I had to edit the DA.py file at zope dir\lib\python\Products\ZMySQLDA and change the path to the connectionAdd.dtml from 'Shared/DC/ZRDB/connectionAdd' to 'Shared/DC/ZRDB/dtml/connectionAdd'. I then started ZOPE, created the DB from the MySQL admin interface, created a connection object, connected, created a table and did some minor testing. All seems to work fine currently. So, from what I can tell, aside from the minor change noted above (which without actually looking, I assume is a change from 2.2.x to 2.3) everything worked fine for me, I hope that this will help or at least give you some hope. __ Jeffrey D. Peterson Webmaster/Web Web Applications Developer Range TV Cable Broadband 1813 E. 3rd Ave. Hibbing, MN 55746 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please
Alan, So what are the errors, are there any tracebacks, does the thing your trying to do work when outside of Zope? What version of MySQL is it? Can you run any queries, or is it one particular query? What versions of the MySQLDB and MySQLDA are you using? Answering some/all of these questions will get you closer to an answer. I can give you some hope though. I have a Zope+MySQL site that has been running non-stop for about 7-8 months with no problems at all, so it can be done. One final note, the people on the list are, as I'm sure you are, busy people. They do their best to help and generally do. Some posts slip through the net though, I wouldn't take offence at not getting answered. hth Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday 23 January 2001 23:17, alankirk wrote: Hi there, i sent an email the other week regarding problems i've been experiencing with zope and MySQL. I've set up a database connection for zope and mysql and it sort of works. I can send queries to add data to my database ok but when i send a query to get data from my database i get one of 3 errors and my python server that zope runs from stops. The errors i get are Python experienced an error in (either nothing,MYSQL.DLL or PYTHON15.DLL). I am using Zope 2.2.2 on windows(this time i'd appreciate no sarcastic comments this time) I've sent a few emails about this problem to various people (including to this address) and the response has been pretty poor, i've even tried to email people involved with the mysql database adaptors and got no response. It is really important that i get this problem sorted now if possible as my final year project for university depends on this 'bug' getting fixed. If you can give me help on this or point me in the direction of someone who can, i'd be grateful Cheers Alan Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please
Phil Harris wrote: Alan, So what are the errors, are there any tracebacks, does the thing your trying to do work when outside of Zope? What version of MySQL is it? Can you run any queries, or is it one particular query? What versions of the MySQLDB and MySQLDA are you using? Answering some/all of these questions will get you closer to an answer. Agreed I can give you some hope though. I have a Zope+MySQL site that has been running non-stop for about 7-8 months with no problems at all, so it can be done. One final note, the people on the list are, as I'm sure you are, busy people. They do their best to help and generally do. Some posts slip through the net though, I wouldn't take offence at not getting answered. I would add that many of us (specially the more busy ones) ignore posts in HTML, so posting in plain text is very helpful. Just thought I'd help you to get help quicker. :) Bill PS. I skipped the request for help because I don't use MySQl, and thus wouldn't be able to help much, if any. ;^)= ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time please
alan, it seems like people are trying to help you. NOTE: no ones getting paid to answer your questions :) here are binaries for win32 for PostgreSQL and MySQL, http://highqualdev.com/ you can probably try these w/ the existing DA's ~runyaga ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
