Re: [Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage'?

2001-01-09 Thread Ken Manheimer
[This thread should not be crossposted to both mailling lists. I'm following up to zope-dev, and will post a note to zope saying i did so. In general, please do *not* cross-post - it's almost never justified, certainly isn't in this case.] On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Mohan Baro wrote: My view is

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:19:36AM -0500, Jason Cunliffe wrote: The need to improve the manage interface has grown urgently clear to me while using Zope myself, designing for all sorts of community and collaborative Zope-based projects, demos for a number of innocent bystanders, interested

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:18:37PM -0500, Mohan Baro wrote: Are you planning a manage_install for products? The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through the management interface, no need for ftp. similar to import/export feature I hope not! Anyone gaining

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Joachim Werner
- You can work with full SSL-encryption, maybe even client certificates. This is much more secure than TELNET or FTP. (Unfortunately, SSH/SCP, while being the "better TELNET/FTP" is not always an option, and it always opens up more than necessary) what exactly does SSH open

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Jonas Luster
* Joachim Werner sez: Again you are right, but as Zope is really easy to install, I'd guess that it is not only used (and installed) by "uberadmins" who know exactly what they are doing ... Hmmm... coming to think about it. Zope comes with /Extensions as drwxrwxr-x and UID='nobody' in

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Joachim Werner
On Tuesday 09 January 2001 15:41, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:18:37PM -0500, Mohan Baro wrote: Are you planning a manage_install for products? The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through the management interface, no need for ftp.

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Jonas Luster
* Joachim Werner sez: Ok, let me try to understand this one. I am a bit dumb, sorry... - You can work with full SSL-encryption, maybe even client certificates. This is much more secure than TELNET or FTP. (Unfortunately, SSH/SCP, while being the "better TELNET/FTP" is not always an

[Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Mohan Baro
, January 09, 2001 9:42 AM To: Mohan Baro Cc: Jason Cunliffe; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ? On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:18:37PM -0500, Mohan Baro wrote: Are you planning a manage_install for products? The ability for superusers

Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Jonas Luster
* Joachim Werner sez: Again you are right, but as Zope is really easy to install, I'd guess that it is not only used (and installed) by "uberadmins" who know exactly what they are doing ... Hmmm... coming to think about it. Zope comes with /Extensions as drwxrwxr-x and UID='nobody' in

Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 11:19:36AM -0500, Jason Cunliffe wrote: The need to improve the manage interface has grown urgently clear to me while using Zope myself, designing for all sorts of community and collaborative Zope-based projects, demos for a number of innocent bystanders, interested

Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:18:37PM -0500, Mohan Baro wrote: Are you planning a manage_install for products? The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through the management interface, no need for ftp. similar to import/export feature I hope not! Anyone gaining

Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Joachim Werner
- You can work with full SSL-encryption, maybe even client certificates. This is much more secure than TELNET or FTP. (Unfortunately, SSH/SCP, while being the "better TELNET/FTP" is not always an option, and it always opens up more than necessary) what exactly does SSH open

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Jonas Luster
* Joachim Werner sez: Ok, let me try to understand this one. I am a bit dumb, sorry... - You can work with full SSL-encryption, maybe even client certificates. This is much more secure than TELNET or FTP. (Unfortunately, SSH/SCP, while being the "better TELNET/FTP" is not always an

[Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-09 Thread Joachim Werner
On Tuesday 09 January 2001 15:41, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:18:37PM -0500, Mohan Baro wrote: Are you planning a manage_install for products? The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through the management interface, no need for ftp.

[Zope-dev] RE: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-08 Thread Mohan Baro
Are you planning a manage_install for products? The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through the management interface, no need for ftp. similar to import/export feature -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason

RE: [Zope] ZDESIGN IDEAS = How to improve 'manage' ?

2001-01-08 Thread Mohan Baro
Are you planning a manage_install for products? The ability for superusers to install complelte products directly through the management interface, no need for ftp. similar to import/export feature -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason