[Zope-CMF] Re: Move CMF collector to Launchpad (redux)
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Now that the Zope and Zope3 collectors have been migrated successfully onto Launchpad, and there seems to be a good routine in place to preserve history and ensure automatic redirects, I wanted to bring up the question again. Should we move the CMF collector to Launchpad? I personally had one remaining issue, namely the fact that my main browser (OmniWeb) could not display Launchpad at all due to a CSS bug in OW itself. All that has been fixed, and the Launchpad team has been very cooperative and responsive. So my own vote at this point is +1: Can we have a show of hands, so to speak? +1 Hanno ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
[Zope-CMF] CMF Collector: Open Issues
The following supporters have open issues assigned to them in this collector (http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF). Assigned and Open tseaver - CMF needs View-based TypeInformation, [Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/437 - CachingPolicyManager awareness of File and Image does not work, [Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/496 yuppie - purge_old in runAllImportSteps not working, [Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/455 Pending / Deferred Issues - workflow notify success should be after reindex, [Deferred] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/389 - Discussions broken, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/493 - components handler: export of placeless utilities is broken, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/498 - CatalogTool._listAllowedRolesAndUsers() returns wrong result , [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/502 - Spinning browser when running a snapshot, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/503 - GenericSetup import onto existing skins fails when adding new layers relative to old ones, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/505 - DirectoryView always registers subdirectories in development mode, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/506 Pending / Deferred Features - CMFTopic Does Not Cache, [Deferred] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/295 - iCal support for CMFCalendar, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/487 - components handler: support for sub-sites, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/500 - components handler: support removing items, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/501 - components handler: make 'interface' attribute optional, [Pending] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/499 ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Move CMF collector to Launchpad (redux)
Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 25 Oct 2007, at 12:40, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I remember one of the popular objections was that the launchpad mails did not contain as much context as the current collector emails. Has that changed? I've been going back and forth with Steve about that yesterday. Apparently it's *not* available right now, and they don't want a naive implementation that sends out the whole history, like the current collector does, because many of their instances have bug histories a lot longer than those we are used to. Right now the discussion is stalled at my suggestion to make the full-context email a configurable item. I agree that sending the full history is not very useful and can be very painful. The minimum context I would like to have is the description of the bugreport. If that's included I'm +1 on moving. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Move CMF collector to Launchpad (redux)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26 Oct 2007, at 10:56, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I agree that sending the full history is not very useful and can be very painful. The minimum context I would like to have is the description of the bugreport. If that's included I'm +1 on moving. Currently the only Launchpad email that I have been getting are about a CSS/rendering issue that prevent the site from being shown in OmniWeb prior to 5.6, those mails were rather sparse: = Landed in RF 5098. ** Changed in: launchpad Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed - -- Launchpad doesn't display in the omniweb browser https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/132154 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. == Basically, the subject line and the bottom of the message body show the issue title, the description is not included. I'll ask Steve about that. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHIbG3RAx5nvEhZLIRAgM0AKCnLsK1i54FV/JnBAj3hueJTtnvNgCaAtoB PYgxj1EEvRwAr5LFVD4EBH4= =5C9V -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Move CMF collector to Launchpad (redux)
+1 On 25. Okt 2007, at 12:37, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Can we have a show of hands, so to speak? -- Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen. --Douglas Adams ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
[Zope-CMF] Re: Move CMF collector to Launchpad (redux)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Hi guys, Now that the Zope and Zope3 collectors have been migrated successfully onto Launchpad, and there seems to be a good routine in place to preserve history and ensure automatic redirects, I wanted to bring up the question again. Should we move the CMF collector to Launchpad? I personally had one remaining issue, namely the fact that my main browser (OmniWeb) could not display Launchpad at all due to a CSS bug in OW itself. All that has been fixed, and the Launchpad team has been very cooperative and responsive. So my own vote at this point is +1: - one less thing to maintain ourselves - apparently there's a new zope.org push, and not having to deal with collectors will make life easier for the people involved - it will be easier to create relationships between Zope and CMF bug reports (I am making an assumption here, haven't tried it) Can we have a show of hands, so to speak? - -0: I don't like the mails launchpad sends[1], but I can live with it if it makes a zope.org cleanup simpler. [1] Note that sending *all* history (not attachments, but the full transcript) has been working well for us for longer than launchpad or Canonical has existed; I would think we could register a per-project mail generation template, or something, Having to click back through to get the transcript makes it that much more likely I will ignore an issue. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHIlfC+gerLs4ltQ4RAmVYAKCJKbVyN8UdpITHUMbDYY/dC/KARwCfYrCL ja1T6WjwmJoCS9xsCfm9/Vs= =zIDc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Move CMF collector to Launchpad (redux)
Am 25.10.2007 um 12:37 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: Can we have a show of hands, so to speak? Given my minimal contribution so far I will abstain. However, before any vote is taken I think it is important to discuss the issues. OTOH imagine how elections would work if we were required to provide justifications for our votes! 0) Jens - get yerself a better browser! ;-) FFS Omniweb :-D OTOH I also complain bitterly when one thing does not work with my favourite tool. Eventually I grew up and swapped NetPositive fer Opera ! :-P hm, the footer doesn't work proply with Opera 9.5!!! 1) I like the Canonical team: Steve Alexander is top and Gustavo Niemeyer has come up with a very reasonable ORM for Launchpad. 2) Data protection: hosting on launchpad.net might raise data protection issues for existing zope.org users. 3) I'm not particularly attached to the Zope collector but the UI for Launchpad isn't brilliant either. Trac's UI is lovely but its data model is totally borked. I'm planning to take a look at Roundup but the argument for consolidating Zope + CMF bugs on a single system is extremely persuasive. 4) It's great when someone else does the work for you and this should be underestimated. 5) E-mail integration: this has to work properly and should include reply by e-mail and reflect user preferences for whole or incremental history. In conclusion: I'm still abstaining because, although the arguments for the automated migration are strong, we are under no time pressure and might like to see some features added before any migration. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-938-5360 GSM: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Move CMF collector to Launchpad (redux)
I'm +1 on the move. Reply-by-email, just to cite one feature, is way more important than full transcript in my scale. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
Re: [Zope-CMF] Move CMF collector to Launchpad (redux)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 27 Oct 2007, at 00:02, Charlie Clark wrote: 0) Jens - get yerself a better browser! ;-) FFS Omniweb :-D OTOH I also complain bitterly when one thing does not work with my favourite tool. Eventually I grew up and swapped NetPositive fer Opera ! :-P hm, the footer doesn't work proply with Opera 9.5!!! OW is a well-supported browser that has been around longer than OS X itself, and it uses the very same WebKit underpinnings Safari uses, just different versions. Its ad filtering is superior to any other browser on my system, and it has a lot of features other browsers either don't have at all or are slow to deliver. However, that's completely off-topic here. No my browser is bigger than yours, please. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHIn29RAx5nvEhZLIRAsvWAJ9DJv0Dwk3aNL+gRdXmS3MAk4NYJQCgnMFo 61U9fENHxIpnSs1UJwcx7sw= =PKyt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-CMF maillist - Zope-CMF@lists.zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf See http://collector.zope.org/CMF for bug reports and feature requests
