[Zope-CMF] Re: future of getToolByName

2006-01-17 Thread Raphael Ritz
whit wrote: I remember some discussion of this in the past. Transitionally, it would be helpful to be able to register local utilities to a tool name, and then have getToolByName spit out a deprecation warning and return an appropriate object. Why a deprecation warning and not just do it?

[Zope-CMF] CMF Collector: Open Issues

2006-01-17 Thread tseaver
The following supporters have open issues assigned to them in this collector (http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF). Assigned and Open jens - Discussion replies removal, [Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/391 - 'CMF Default Workflow [Revision 2]' Extension broken,

[Zope-CMF] Re: GenericSetup list property purge

2006-01-17 Thread yuppie
Hi Florent! Florent Guillaume wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: I recently introduced the fact that in extension profiles list properties aren't purged by default. But really this introduces problems, as if you simply import an extension profile twice you'll get all you lists doubled. So I

[Zope-CMF] Re: Move GenericSetup out of CMF

2006-01-17 Thread yuppie
Hi Jens! Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 16 Jan 2006, at 18:28, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 15 Jan 2006, at 18:38, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Before cutting the CMF 2.0 alpha GenericSetup should move out of the CMF repository. I'm volunteering to do that. Is there anything or anyone I need to wait on

Re: [Zope-CMF] Move GenericSetup out of CMF

2006-01-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 17 Jan 2006, at 10:44, yuppie wrote: Work finished, please check out GenericSetup from here now: svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/GenericSetup/trunk The original proposal also proposed to include it in the CMF via a svn:external link, see

[Zope-CMF] Re: [z3-five] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
I agree that Five development should happen in Five 1.4. This version would then be the basis for Five in Zope 2.10. Increasing Zope 3 compatibility there is good and high priority. Doing so in Five 1.2 is quite low priroty, since that runs on an old version of Zope 3, on which new development

[Zope-CMF] Re: GenericSetup list property purge

2006-01-17 Thread Florent Guillaume
On 17 Jan 2006, at 10:28, yuppie wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: I recently introduced the fact that in extension profiles list properties aren't purged by default. But really this introduces problems, as if you simply import an extension profile twice you'll get

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: future of getToolByName

2006-01-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/17/06, Raphael Ritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was the promise that 'getToolByName' would always just do the right thing (TM) so that add-on developers would not have to worry. So why deprecating that now? Because that promise has been completely revoked, since add-ons developed for old

[Zope-CMF] Re: Move GenericSetup out of CMF

2006-01-17 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 17 Jan 2006, at 10:44, yuppie wrote: Work finished, please check out GenericSetup from here now: svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/GenericSetup/trunk The original proposal also proposed to include it in the CMF via a

[Zope-CMF] Re: Move GenericSetup out of CMF

2006-01-17 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 17 Jan 2006, at 15:39, Tres Seaver wrote: What do people think, do we want a svn:external or do we want to just mention it as a requirement in the docs (such as README, INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES)? I don't think the

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Move GenericSetup out of CMF

2006-01-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 17 Jan 2006, at 16:13, Tres Seaver wrote: I don't think the burden of maintaining 'svn:external' is worse than the burden of maintaining the correct version ID in DEPENDENCIES.txt. I *want* to distribute GenericSetup with the CMF tarball, in fact, which makes 'svn:external' seem the

[Zope-CMF] Re: future of getToolByName

2006-01-17 Thread whit
howdy lennart! Right, any tool that now exists must directly map unto a local utility, and that local utility must also have the same API. If we in CMF 2.0 feel that most tools should be made into utilities, we could register the utilities with a name, and use the old tool name. getToolByName

[Zope-CMF] CMF 2.0 alpha this coming weekend

2006-01-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi all, I will cut the CMF 2.0 alpha this coming Sunday, no matter what. I'll do as much as I can myself as far as cleanup goes beforehand, but in order to get it out I'm no longer waiting for others' tasks. The alpha is *not* the branching point for a 2.0 branch, that happens when the

[Zope-CMF] Re: Move GenericSetup out of CMF

2006-01-17 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 17 Jan 2006, at 16:13, Tres Seaver wrote: I don't think the burden of maintaining 'svn:external' is worse than the burden of maintaining the correct version ID in DEPENDENCIES.txt. I *want* to distribute

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Move GenericSetup out of CMF

2006-01-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 17 Jan 2006, at 15:39, Tres Seaver wrote: What do people think, do we want a svn:external or do we want to just mention it as a requirement in the docs (such as README, INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES)? I don't think the burden of maintaining 'svn:external' is worse than the burden of maintaining

[Zope-CMF] Re: Move GenericSetup out of CMF

2006-01-17 Thread Rocky Burt
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: OK, all done now. jens Hmm... I think you forgot to do the svn:externals for CMF 1.6 branch too? (was GenericSetup removed from there as well?) - Rocky -- Rocky Burt ServerZen Software -- http://www.serverzen.com ServerZen Hosting -- http://www.serverzenhosting.net

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Move GenericSetup out of CMF

2006-01-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 17 Jan 2006, at 20:47, Rocky Burt wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: OK, all done now. jens Hmm... I think you forgot to do the svn:externals for CMF 1.6 branch too? (was GenericSetup removed from there as well?) No I did not. snip Log message for revision 41349: - stitching

[Zope-CMF] DeprecationWarnings for container events

2006-01-17 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florent, I'd like to get the CMF-trunk clean of Deprecation warnings, at least when running unit tests or starting up Zope, and those emitted by OFS.subscribers are the remaining ones I know about. How do you mean for objects to handle the case

[Zope-CMF] Re: Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-17 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:41:23 -, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How urgent is it that all of this works with Zope 2.8? I guess it's urgent if you want to sell it to the Plone community, which will only switch to Zope 2.9 or beyond by next year or so, I expect. How much more

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-17 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:50:44 -, whit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In actuality, the number of products that anyone depends on will not be using this in 2.8, but making it available to 2.8 will give people an opportunity to use this and familiarize themselves. for example, Plone will be on

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-17 Thread Rob Miller
Martin Aspeli wrote: The broader point is we wouldn't really need it yet - we don't have any code that actually uses these new features, and plenty of code that may be broken by changes in CMF 2. All in good time - of course, if you want to help work on CMF 2.0 compatability for the 2.5

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-17 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:37:41 -, Rocky Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there are two reasons Plone 2.5 is targetting CMF 1.6 (instead of just going to CMF 2.0) 1) the risk that CMF 2.0 wouldn't be ready when plone -- and I'm pretty sure the 6 month release rule has already been

[Zope-CMF] Re: RFC: backporting including python-package-product support to support Zope 2.8

2006-01-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Alexander Limi wrote: From what you're saying I deduct that Plone 2.1 favours Zope 2.7 over 2.8. Below you are suggesting that Plone 2.5 should do the same with Zope 2.8 (favouring it over 2.9). I don't understand why that should be. If one version has to be favoured at all, it should be