[Zope-CMF] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Tres Seaver wrote: SVN Reorganiztion - I just worked a bit today on spliting CMF 2.1.0 (GenericSetup 1.3.2) out into separately releasable egg-based distributions. For the initial pass, see: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.GenericSetup/tags/1.3.2 Note that

Re: [Zope-CMF] Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/ CMF' to 'Products.CMFCore', 'Products.CMFDefault', etc.) and push the 2.1.0 eggs out, as well as equivalent changes for PluggableAuthService and PluginRegistry. Any objections, or

[Zope-CMF] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Charlie Clark wrote: Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/CMF' to 'Products.CMFCore', 'Products.CMFDefault', etc.) and push the 2.1.0 eggs out, as well as equivalent changes for PluggableAuthService and PluginRegistry. Any

[Zope-CMF] CMF Collector: Open Issues

2007-09-25 Thread tseaver
The following supporters have open issues assigned to them in this collector (http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF). Assigned and Open tseaver - CMF needs View-based TypeInformation, [Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/437 - CachingPolicyManager awareness of File and

[Zope-CMF] Re: GenericSetup: How to use upgradeStep?

2007-09-25 Thread Maurits van Rees
Hi, I've been on vacation I took my time answering. Rob Miller, on 2007-09-06: okay, here's where things get off track. in GenericSetup, there is no such thing (yet, perhaps) as an upgrade profile. it's possible to define an extension profile and to USE it as part of an upgrade process

[Zope-CMF] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: On Sep 25, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Charlie Clark wrote: Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/ CMF' to 'Products.CMFCore',

[Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope-PAS] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 25 Sep 2007, at 13:20 , Jim Fulton wrote: On Sep 25, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Charlie Clark wrote: Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/ CMF' to 'Products.CMFCore', 'Products.CMFDefault',

[Zope-CMF] CMF Tests: 11 OK

2007-09-25 Thread CMF Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the cmf-tests list. Period Mon Sep 24 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Tue Sep 25 12:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 11 messages: 11 from CMF Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : CMF-1.5 Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: CMF Unit Tests Date: Mon Sep 24 21:25:48 EDT

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope-PAS] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 25 Sep 2007, at 13:20 , Jim Fulton wrote: On Sep 25, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Charlie Clark wrote: Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/ CMF' to

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tres Seaver wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: On Sep 25, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Charlie Clark wrote: Am 25.09.2007 um 02:05 schrieb Tres Seaver: I'd like to break the remaining CMF packages out (moving from '/ CMF' to 'Products.CMFCore',

[Zope-CMF] Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
(Also CCing zope3-dev where the first known working set discussion started a while ago) Tres Seaver wrote: This is the known good problem. I'm pretty convinced that adding some kind of PyPI subset, where gardeners for a given package set keep the list of packages / versions known to work well

[Zope-CMF] Re: Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (CC'ing the Python distutils list, which is where setuptools development is discussed; maybe I should be including the catalog-sig too, but I don't read that list). Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: (Also CCing zope3-dev where the first known

Re: [Zope-CMF] Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-25 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 25.09.2007 um 14:06 schrieb Philipp von Weitershausen: * A versions.cfg that's loaded via HTTP. zc.buildout actually supports this now which makes it quite appealing. Also, far as I know, all major deployers of Zope3 that use zc.buildout for deployment use this form of pinning egg

[Zope-CMF] Re: Eggification redux

2007-09-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: * When package A depends on Y and package B also depends on Y, but with some version restrictions, buidout will first try to get the newest version of Y when installing A. But then when installing B, it is likely that it

[Zope-CMF] Re: Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tres Seaver wrote: [snip] This is certainly an interesting approach. I'd be curious how you would garden this known working set. Martijn makes a pretty good case for maintaining such working sets close to the package in question (e.g. the grok egg, the Plone egg, etc.). I would argue that

[Zope-CMF] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-25 Thread Dieter Maurer
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2007-9-25 17:22 +0200: ... Should we then encourage everyone to hardcode version numbers in their setup.py's dependencies list? I think this goes against building applications from components -- as it drastically increases the probability of conflicts. Components should